Daily Japanese Thread - DJT #1900

ぬるぽ

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俺が寝に行くとスレは死ぬ

>>78994275
俺は寝ていた後にスレが死んだ

このスレもいつかはスパムに飽きて亡びるだろうね。。

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>>78994275
たすけてくださいドイツさん

「物騒な事言わないの!」
>「――あまり馬鹿言ってると……!」
I was wondering why 言ってる was used here. I think the second line means something like "If you say any more stupid things", but the form here doesn't make sense with it.

おはようさん

>>78997027
おはようぎざいます

>>78997053
>ぎ
ご*lol

>>78995803
馬鹿言うな is a set phrase.
馬鹿を言う/馬鹿言う means 馬鹿なことを言う.
I doubt that is one of dialect.
that relates to 物騒な事言わない. this を also is omitted at the sentence.

>>78997158
馬鹿言うな
don't talk stupid

馬鹿なこと言うな
don't say stupid things

>>78997196
those are the same for me.

>>78997556
they mean the same thing in english too, just different wording

>>78997565
that is to say, I understand 馬鹿/stupid is a noun in also English.
I got it.

there is also a way of speaking of 馬鹿をやる tho.

>>78997158
I already understand the phrase. I was just looking for clarification on 言ってると, "If you say another stupid thing ", "If you keep saying stupid things" etc.

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>>78995803
「言う」連用形+接続助詞「て」+補助動詞「いる」+接続助詞「と」
言っている:動詞「言う」の進行形:be saying so
この場合は接続助詞「と」は単純な条件
「春が来ると、次に夏が来る」
>>78997196
あまり馬鹿言ってると=あまり馬鹿を言っていると
馬鹿を言う=言動が馬鹿々々しい
馬鹿を言うな: Don't be silly
否定命令法「馬鹿を言うな」は、実は命令法の「馬鹿を言え」が反語となり、同じ意味になる
>>78998026
above
あまり馬鹿言ってると
when you keep on being silly too much

>>78998026
the latter can be correct.

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https://a.pomfe.co/mwqnkmp.webm

I recorded myself doing my reps today, if anyone is interested for some reason.

First 20 minutes is me doing my NameDeck (pic related).
The rest are Vocabulary reps (Core10k + mined words).

At around 23 minutes I start using my mouse instead of keyboard shortcuts, so you can actually see what I'm pressing.

Make an effort to answer in English at least

Can anyone point me to the best of this steve kaufman guy in regards to learning japanese? Particularly with kanji? I don't want to spend hours browsing his whole channel

>>78998454
>Can anyone point me to the best of this steve kaufman guy in regards to learning japanese?
"Read more" - S. Kaufmann

>>78998454
Watch one or two (to be safe) talks by him to big classes, one of those 40-60 min long ones. He always repeats the same set of advices verbatim.

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>>78998294
>for some reason.
Gotta catch 'em all

>>78998497
He's got a very soothing voice. I'm checking out his 7 secrets of language learning series right now, but I'll find one of those longer ones. What is his opinion on learning kanji/hangxi?

>>78998756
he's not an expert on learning japanese or anything, he just is decent at learning languages in general

just read the fucking guide that we made for you

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>>78998347
(´・ω・`)

>>78998806
dont get mad JET friend, I have read the guide

>>78998262
サンキュ。

>>78998866
いやなら日本に来るな

it is not possible that he who understand 馬鹿言うな doesn't understand ている.

>>78999261.>>78999282 is the Korean troll who calls himself nihon.

>>78998891
読み直せ

戦く
おののく or わななく, do these have much of a difference?

>>78999395
what is a relevance two posts?
You who say about Korea immediately are
an abnormal person.

>>78999640
日本語で聞きなよ
Do you examine Japanese ability of English?

*English ability of Japanese

>>78999682
two were posted by the same troll
proof
>>78999320
bye bye

Please do not discriminate against Korean people.

>>78999640
Apparently not. Most sources online say they're the same. One person proposed the following:

>おののく人 → ぶるぶるぶる

>わななく人 → ぶるぶるぶるぶるぶる

>おののくが3センチくらいだとすれば、わななくは5センチくらい?

But really, I think you can use them interchangeably.

>>78999899
It's just Pantsuya going on a 在日 tirade as he often does. It's best to ignore him until he tires himself out.

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>been skipping Anki, kanji practice and vocab these past days
>procrastinating and doing nothing

I need some fucking motivation. I'm sure I would have learned a lot of thing in these past month of sheer inactivity

>>78999640
>>79000015

>>79000055
Are you at least reading?

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>>78999943
thank

>>78999899
Because they are liars and criminals, it is natural.

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>>79000073
excellent ありがとうございます

>>78999899
>Korean people
撞着語法です。

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>>79000089
読んでいません
>>78999899
I worry every day that my Korean friend will kill himself one day.

>>78999847
can you explain about the grammar of this sentence 雷神の 少し響みて 降らずとも 我は留らむ 妹し留めば

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>>79000158

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Why are Koreans such bullies to people that simply want to learn Japanese? What did they do to deserve it?

>>79000335
「言の葉の庭」で用いられている歌で、万葉集の柿本人麻呂歌集の歌
「む」が意志を示す助動詞「よう」で「し」は上古の係助詞、「留めば」は「未然形+ば」で仮定
「我は留らむ 妹し留めば」は「私は留まろう、恋人さえ留まるならば」
で、前半の「雷神(なるかみ)の 少し響(とよ)みて 降らずとも」は、この歌が
「雷神(なるかみ)の 少し響(とよ)みて さし曇り 雨も降らぬか 君を留めむ」
の返歌であることの知識を前提として
「雷神(なるかみ)の 少し響(とよ)みて 降らず」で「雷神が少し響いて雨が降る」という情況(つまり上記の歌の情況)にならざるともということ。文法的に難しいものは何もない。
だから、
全体の現代語訳は、
「雷が少し轟いて雨が降らなくても、私は留まる、君さえ引き留めてくれのならば」
となり、標準的なnativeなら、高卒以上を前提として、普通に意味のとれる文章。
>>79001107
このスレでする話題ではない
JTへ
まだ、Spamが続いているがね

>>79001194
*恋人さえ留めるならば

>>79001194
that is to say, should I understand that you say that Japanese long sentences are not for this thread?

What's the best way to say "the next day" - as in you're recounting events, and want to move onto the next day in the story?

またの日
明くる日
翌日

?

>>79001428
次の日 or maybe 翌日

>>79001428
storyteller is likely to say あくる日. it sounds a little more elegant

>>79001396
I was asked, so I answered.
It's just that.
Your reply merely shows that you are just a troll

>>79001194
All native Japanese know that the tanka of Manyo-shu are not easy like you say.

>>79001428
またの日 : another day
明くる日 : next day (morning)
翌日: next day
「明くる」は「明ける」(dawn)の古語「明く」の連体形
だから、「明くる日」の原義はnext morning
ただし、この意味では翌朝が用いられる
>>79001750
中卒以下やFランは、全ての理解が困難だろうね。

>>79001682
Is a spammer you after all?

>>79001816
sorry, I can't understand your Japanese.
>全ての理解が困難だ

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>先週
>先月
>>>>>昨年

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来週
来月
来年
>> 明日

>>79001920
There's also 去年.
And the word 先年 still exists but it doesn't mean last year.
Why is there no native Japanese word for last year?

>>79001880
もしかして「全ての」という日本語すら知らない?
あらゆる
一切の
と同じ意味なんだが
なんか、語彙力が異常に少ないのでは?
もしかして、自閉症か発達障害の方でしょうか?

>>79002338
もしくは偽物なのだわよ

九月。長月。
もうすぐ夏が終わって秋が来る。
秋という文字は同じ読みの「哀愁」とかの「愁」に似てるから、俺の意見では麗しい言葉だ。
英語では、「秋」を表すには、「fall」と「autumn」、二つの言葉があるんだ。北米では「fall」の方が優先するらしいが、「autumn」の方がよっぽど綺麗だと思うので俺はアメリカ人としても大体そちらにする。

>burnt out at 920/2300 kanji on KKLC
Started off at 50 kanji/day, down to 25, 20, and then down to 10. I think I'm going to drop it.

On the bright side, I don't see most kanji as squiggly lines anymore. But I feel like I just wasted a bunch by not finishing it entirely.

does playing a game witha decent amount of dialog except its all in hiragana count as good reading material?

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>>79002151
>Why is there no native Japanese word for last year?
You thought 忘年会 was just a funny name?

>>79003663
Stop thinking about daily reps and think about how much time you want to allocate to it. 11~12 a day if you want to finish it this year, but you can make a 6 month goal and bring it down to 8 a day to finish under a semester.

>>79004545
>Stop thinking about daily reps
I'm using an anki deck with the book. The writing is really burning me out, even though there are equal production/recognition cards my reviews are probably 75% production and take 2-3x as long to do as recognition.

Would it be a waste of time if I deleted all the production (meaning -> write kanji) cards and only did recognition (kanji -> meanings)? Of course I'd still write it out the first time I see it in the book.

>>79004834
I believe so. Learning it passively can be done via vocabulary, so eh.

Anyone can help me with 3 and 4 sentence? I can'not get the meaning.
お前はあれが好きだったね
Are you liked that, right?
夕焼け空にたくさんのシャボンを飛ばして
Many soap bubbles in the red sky at sundown
きれいな色をうつして飛ぶから
まるでお空を飛んでるようだと

>>79005635
>きれいな色をうつして飛ぶから
Because they shine in many beautiful colors when they float.
>まるでお空を飛んでるようだと
Almost as if they're soaring through the sky.

>>79005709
Thank.

>>79003805
no

>>79001992
来日

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今日の新しい単語の一覧はどうぞ:

勘弁
一頻り
同然
豪奢
途轍もない
端っこ
或いは
弾丸
一発
薬莢
引火
満腹
廃屋
狙撃
覗ぞく
訊ねた
度に
惰性
珍獣
驚愕

>>79002338
>>79002352
You have always got to trash talk someone.

『全ての理解が困難だ』

「全部を理解するのが困難」なのか
「全く理解するのが困難」なのか

下手な日本語と太鼓持ちの外国人

>>79007653
>あんき

本当にわからないんだね・・・

>>79007806
多分、「誰かの悪口を言う」のつもりなんだろな
>>79007845
日本語も英語も困難なのね
哀れ

> 中卒以下
this is a slang of low-level education.
> Fラン
this means "you are a graduate from a college of a lower ranking"

The person who use the words like this must be a strange man.

>>79007890
"全ての理解が困難マン"は黙って"全ての理解が困難"してろ

>>79007890
困難な自然言語がないよ
乳幼児は難しいと思わないね
大人として鈍くなっているんだろう

なるほど”あらゆる理解が困難だ”と言いたかったのか。
でも「~は」の主語もおかしいな。

> ○○は、全ての理解が困難だろうね。
0点

君にとってはあらゆる理解が困難だろう。

>>79005635
And next sentence from this text.
大きな瞳をまんまるにして夕焼空の茜色を映して
あの真っ赤に燃えるきれいな瞳
What does mean "大きな瞳をまんまるにして?
Big circle eyes?

>>79008212
「全ての」の品詞すら理解する能力がない。
「は」は、主語を示す格助詞ではなく、係助詞であることすら知らない。
発達障害の方でしょうか。
日本語、理解できますか?

>>79008300
Or "eyes spreading widely"?

>>79007890
perhaps I guess my English and your Japanese are same level.
Let's study hard!

>>79008477
your language is unnatural regardless of the grammar.
何助詞かに関係なく不自然だって

>>79008300
>大きな瞳をまんまるにして夕焼空の茜色を映して
(Her) eyes were open wide, reflecting the burnt red of the sunset
>あの真っ赤に燃えるきれいな瞳
Those beautiful eyes burning red

>>79008537
それを文法的に説明してみな。
能力も知力もないのに、何を偉そうに書いているの。
本当に、自称nihonという白痴そっくり。

>>79008631
能力と知力ってなに。
「知性と教養」ならわかるが。
誰彼構わず馴れ合うなハゲ。

辞書見ながら言葉選んでるんだろうか

>>79009574
はぁ? 日本語って、そういう組み合わせしかないとでも思っているの?
語彙力なさすぎだろう。
定型的な言い方しか理解できないのは自閉症の特徴なんだって。

>>78990297
All right, so I'm having some beginner issues. I started learning hiragana and it was easy enough but I'm having trouble remembering previous characters I went over. Like even if I re-write the old characters 20 or so times the a few days later to refresh my memory I feel it slipping away.

Did anyone else have trouble with this? How do I fix it? I've put my studies on hiatus because of it.

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why is japan so racist against whites?

>>79010154
The easiest and best way to remember it is to use it. Write things down on instinct. Force yourself to recognize the Hiragana you see. Having to look up characters isn't a bad thing: you'll recognize them all faster that way than just drilling yourself.

>>79010154
Look into how spaced repetition and learning in general works. You don't learn something after doing it once.

>>79009986
今回は頑張ったな。ミスなしだ。
お前のアホさは誰が見ても一目瞭然だ。

「中卒は、全ての理解が困難だ」:autistic sentence
「君にとってはあらゆる理解が困難だろう。」:normal

Be careful from now on.

>>79010840
副詞と連体詞って知っている?
日本語が理解できるようになってから書け、白痴。

>>79010207
not really.

Some racist against all race tho.

What are you lot using to learn Nihongo?

>>79011828
Anki
Assimil
Extensive Reading

>>79010840
>autistic sentence
lel

>>79011170
知力 is one of 能力.
for the same example as your sentence:
animals and dogs

>>79011170
>>79012194
Can you two seriously knock it off? Or at least take it to another thread.
ここは安全地帯ですぅー
平和に過ごさせてくれぇー

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>>79011828

>>79012309
what's that then?

>>79012305
平和だと思うよ。
なにを泣いてんの。

>>79012447
a rkgk from some random artist on twitter

source: I happened to see it

>>79011828
i try to convince girls from pairs.lv to meet me

>>79013804
is it working?

>>79013838
i met a chubby haafu and a couple flat qts who seem willing to meet, although one of them hasn't replied for a couple days so that one is probably gone. All the ones who いいね me first have no picture or are like 4+ years older than me though

>>79013957
why's 4yr+ on you a dealbreaker lmao

>>79014431
mostly it's both (30+, no picture or crappy picture)

Anyway the one i met was pretty good for japanese practice

>>79003663
>>79004834
Are you me? I was going really strong but stalled around 960. I think it was the anki reviews, the production/recall ones are a pain in the ass. I actually turned off all recognition reviews to better focus on the mnemonics and production, which is something Heisig recommends in his book and I found to be very useful. This week though, I've just been reading, I want focus on learning kanji through vocabulary. KKLC takes a lot of time, and it violate's Steve's #1 rule that language learning should be fun. It's not fun.

I'll probably pick it back up sometime when my vocabulary is more robust.