Nuclear weapons take away all the fun.

>>78979141
cost effective though

gunpowder did

They think North Korea may have gotten missile tech from Ukraine, because they were so poor and desperate for $$$ that they'd sell it to anyone.

>>78979262
>Ukraine doesn't have nukes
>Ukraine is selling nukes to other countries

Really stimulates the melon...

>>78979308
The missiles, you braindead...

The actual nuclear warhead tech possibly came from Iran or Pakistan.

>>78979141
nuclear weapons are a geopolitical farce
theyre not as dangerous as they sound... nothing that a few fire extingushers cant handle

>>78979397
>Panaman """""intellectuals"""""

>>78979379
it was a Pakistani nuclear scientist that sold the tech to them

>>78979397
Oh really?

>>78979141
Dropped war when they invented the bow.
From that point on soldiers weren't men anymore, just pussies who prefer distance

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>>78979141
The fun starts after the bombs drop.

Israel didn't drop a nuke in the October War despite facing potential destruction. Nukes don't stop conventional wars if all sides are reasonable. Nukes stop nukes.

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>>78979499
>>78979434
Or when the ammo run out.

>>78979577
>During the night of October 8–9, an alarmed Dayan told Meir that "this is the end of the third temple." He was warning of Israel's impending total defeat, but "Temple" was also the code word for Israel's nuclear weapons. Dayan again raised the nuclear topic in a cabinet meeting, warning that the country was approaching a point of "last resort". That night Meir authorized the assembly of thirteen 20-kiloton-of-TNT (84 TJ) tactical nuclear weapons for Jericho missiles at Sdot Micha Airbase, and McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom II aircraft at Tel Nof Airbase, for use against Syrian and Egyptian targets. They would be used if absolutely necessary to prevent total defeat, but the preparation was done in an easily detectable way, likely as a signal to the United States. Kissinger learned of the nuclear alert on the morning of October 9. That day, President Nixon ordered the commencement of Operation Nickel Grass, an American airlift to replace all of Israel's material losses. Anecdotal evidence suggests that Kissinger told Sadat that the reason for the U.S. airlift was that the Israelis were close to "going nuclear". However, subsequent interviews with Kissinger, Schlesinger, and William Quandt suggested that the nuclear aspect was not a major factor in the decision to re-supply. These officials cited the ongoing Soviet re-supply effort and Sadat's early rejection of a ceasefire as the primary motivators. European countries refused to allow U.S. airplanes carrying supplies for Israel to refuel at their bases, fearing an Arab oil embargo, with the exception of Portugal and the Netherlands. Portugal permitted the United States to use a leased base in the Azores, and the defence minister of the Netherlands, apparently acting without consulting his cabinet colleagues, secretly authorised the use of Dutch airfields.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War

>>78979577
However, none of the Arab states had nukes. There has never been a direct war between two nuclear-armed states.

>>78979262
>>78979427
Sounds fair but you'd be surprised how many right wing talk radio shows and bloggers still think China gave them missile tech (as if they'd want to do anything that increases the chance of a disastrous war on their doorstep happening).

>>78979397
This
Nukes are certanly powerful, but in no way they would be able to end the world or even human civilization
An average earthquake has more energy than all nukes combined

>>78979909
They're dumb people. Stop the presses. Actually, China wouldn't let Pyongyang have nukes all the way back in the 60s.