How have Italian descendants affected your country?

Corruption

Mama mia, they-a a-invented da Chicago deep-a dish-a! Marone!

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they industrialized our whole country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Francesco_Matarazzo

>>78921597
>>78921585
Did they have a hard time learning your languages? Here in the USA, the older ones can still barely speak English

The original Mexicans and harbingers of organized crime in the US. Help a cop, shoot a wop.

>>78921547
they ruined argentina

>>78921547
Pretty much the quintessential foreigner for a long time. Movies and tv have endeared us to their foibles over time, but they were hated like Mexicans for decades.

>>78921614
no, l'italiano è una lingua molto facile da imparare

>>78921547
My ancestor :)

>>78921637
Yeah, I think in the 1990s, Italians went from being shitty immigrants to model immigrant descendants

But at least unlike Mexicans, Italians didn't bring crime, poverty and despair but brought food, culture, and family values

>>78921689
>Italians didn't bring crime

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>>78921547
they're greatest contribution to American society was the the mafia, which helped us drink during prohibition and gave us some great entertainment decades later

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All the girls from Italian descent that I've met here have been almost always cute as shit desu

>>78921712
*their

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>>78921547
Corruption

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>>78921547
They have affected the pussies of irish women

>>78921689
>Italians didn't bring crime

Hahaha holy shit

>>78921734
They aren't for Indio face tattoo Manlets. Touch them and I will hunt you down

Could have been better, could have been worse.

>>78921773
Compared to what Mexicans have brought, Italians brought very little crime.

>>78921795
CHI

>>78921795
>American bantering about being white

You're a Chicano aren't you?

>>78921824
maybe that's because mexico is right in our border and you need to get high constantly?

>>78921689
>1990s

LOL nobody cared about Italians since the 70s

>>78921614
I thought that if you can't learn Spanish, French or Portuguese as an Italian speaker, you're pretty much a retard.

I think a lot of the older Italians in New York and New Jersey talk to the Puerto Ricans using Italian, and they reply back in Spanish.

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>>78921547
I can tell right now this is somehow going to evolve into an "italians aren't white thread". Useless autistic faggots.

>>78921847
>>78921848
I am terrone bull

>>78921689
>Italians didn't bring crime, poverty and despair but brought food, culture, and family values
This fucking guy.

>>78921547
they introduced anarchy and socialism to our literal slaves

>>78921874
>terrone
>bull

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>>78921689
>Italians didn't bring crime

Nigga what the fuck are you talking about? They are the quintessential mobster.

>>78921854
They peaked in the early 90s tbqh
>>78921877
Compared to the beheading and cartel violence of today it seems like small potatoes

>>78921547
There aren't any aside from a really small town in bumpfuck nowhere with a meme dialect of Venetian. So they haven't.

>>78921904
dude you're a damn idiot. log off.

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>>78921689
Didnt bring crime

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>>78921887

>>78921927
>Trafficante

>>78921921
>>78921927
Prostitutes and gambling is very quaint compared to the peeling off faces that Mexicans do. Italians also assimilated within 2 generations while nowadays there are many Mexicans today that do not and refuse to speak English

>>78921824
Jesus this guy. They essentially invented gang crime in the US you shmuck.

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>>78921904
Yeah they just used to execute people in public places sans regard for bystanders

>>78921547
they're responsible for several cuties in Brazil

>>78921987
>>78921989
The mafia as you one it no longer exsists

>>78921979
>compared to the peeling off faces that Mexicans do.

Do Mexican cartels do that regularly in the USA? Because if they don't then you're just being rateases in purpose

>>78921904
Sometimes when I read something offensively ignorant posted by an American flag it makes wonder if the anon really is a complete fuckwit or just a shitposter riding on the inevitable negative attention.

Italians: brought food and architecture
Mexicans: brought disease, poverty and a spike in crime rates.

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>>78921824
Read the history of wops in the usa

They were hated for a reason, just like the spics are today

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Italian workers who emigrated here during the 50's/60's culturally enriched us with new kinds of food.

>>78922048
*retarded on

>>78922048
Yes in the Southwest although it's usually done by Mexicans who don't pay the cartel.
>>78922051
I see you have never had to deal with a mestizo

Why the fuck would so many Italians move to South America? Seems like there is a shitload of cultural difference that would have made it hard to integrate into their societies unlike in North America

>>78922054
Questo

>>78921940
>literally devolving from strong mafias to pitiful crooks because some stinky wetbacks make the only thing you're good at better

>>78922085
Theyre both med cultures, why wouldnt it be easier to integrate there than in a protestant anglo country?

>>78922085
Now you're just trolling

>>78922084
Okay, now I'm convinced that you're just a shitposter. Tone down the stupidity if you want more people to take it seriously.

>>78922121
Italians have the lowest crime rate Among white ethnic groups in America

>>78922085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR-XNecMc0s

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>>78922085
they came here at the end of the 1800s, when Italy was suffereing greately and south america was growing and needed workers after slave emancipation

>>78922085
ah yes, it's not like we are catholic or a romance speaking language or anything

>>78922146
>Italians
>white
sage

>>78922085
In hindsight it was a very bad decision

>>78922085
>Why the fuck would so many Italians move to South America? Seems like there is a shitload of cultural difference that would have made it hard to integrate into their societies unlike in North America

They jumped into the first ship they saw, immigrants are always bottom-of-the-barrel scum in their countries. Do you think Paco the gardener was a duke back in Mexico?

>>78921979
You must be a delusional Italian. The Italian mafia was no less ruthless than the Mexican cartel. It's just they've since become a source of entertaining legend instead of an ongoing problem so their exploits are now fantasized in pop culture instead of demonized, but the wops were fucking cancer in this country years ago.

>>78922174
not really most of them are rich as fuck while in america they are poor and treated like garbage

>>78922172
Did an Italian bull fuck your Anglo Celtic sister?
>>78922175
Stop comparing the two groups. Italians are humans while Mexicans are mixed race mutants

>>78922198
I'm comfortable middle class. Don't know what your talking about

>>78922146
Italians don't live in america, no any real one whatsoever. Only LARPers and the sons of pussies who ran away to become a distasteful minority.
Disgusting

>>78922172
I'm over half italian and white. Tell me otherwise fag.

>>78922217
nigger

>>78922211
And I am living in a 300m2 duplex all by myself

>>78922146
t. Giovani pizzaria

>>78922233
Get cancer.

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>>78922215
The audacity of you Mexicans holy shit

>>78922198
Look how Italians are treated in Argentina

>>78922247
t. errone

>>78922273
I'm from milan retard.

>>78922270
like kings? When I went to buenos aires I literally spoke Italian with the uber driver, because I confused it with spanish

>>78922270
just like anyone else? maybe in the first decades there was social unrest but now they are quintessentially argentines and they are as poor as everyone else

>>78922283
>Being a polentone
Lmao

>>78922252
nobody likes pussies and the spawns of such creatures
Chicanos are a disgrace to mexico just like "Italian Americans" are a disgrace to italians

>>78922283
I'm sorry, please refer back to >>78922233

>Somebody makes a disparaging post about Italians
>A fleet of American flags come to their defense

Go bake me some spaghetti Luigi instead of shitposting on 4chan.

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>>78922310
>A me*ican thought he was human near me

>>78922347
as this anon puts it >>78922310 no one in Italy actually considers them italian
they're lowclass scum who ran away and spread crime
I'm willing to bet my heart that none of these autists even speak italian or have ever been to Italy in their lives

>>78922368
>the spawn of diaspora thinking he's more than a pile of garbage
>these are some hard times we're living in

>>78922399
Cornuto. Probably a polentone
>>78922408
>The person whos Country is responsible for spawning 11 million diaspora thinks he's more than a pile of garbage

My São Paulo accent, basically...

...that's pretty much it

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>>78922368
Merican?

>>78922441
even your """"countryman"""" agrees with me, you're nothing but another burger

>>78922441
all diasporas are piles of garbage, you're no exception

>>78922497
>>78922502
>>78922507
I am the literal Master race

>>78922321
You're lucky I don't have your mother's address.

>>78922515
Ok yeah. You're probably an inbred anglo britcuck or some shit.

>>78922519
why did you leave milan for america by the way? Quality of life was too good for you?

>>78922549
I am terrone master race

>>78922451
Ass: an Itaquera resident

>>78922561
I was born in america dumbshit. Check out my yt channel, I'm gonna get you exposed.

>>78922580
of course, why did I even bother asking
your whore polentona mother just couldn't resist that african-american charm huh?

>>78922568
He is based
>>78922612
Most polentone women can't

>>78922612
My dad is italian/polish and my mother is german. I'm not going to bother feeding you further since you're obviously 10 and therefore don't know what you're talking about.

>>78922660
you're a whole amalgamation of subhumans holy shit
no wonder you want to be italian so desperately

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>>78922660
Average amerimutt

This thread shows just how little Italians have actually integrated in America. I regularly shit talk the country my grandparents came from because it sucks. Guidos still have an irrational attachment to their shitty homeland just like Chicanos.

Genuinely wonderful people. I have nothing but love for Italians.

>>78922580
pls give the name

>>78922721
Excellent post
>>78922711
Terronia is literally a dumping ground for refugees

I saw an italian the other day talking about how he can download porn using his mobile data plan.

>italian priorities

>>78922750
internet is 3rd world tier here, a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do

>>78922778
can't argue with that

>>78921637
>They were hates as Mexicans for decades
What bad things italians americans do? i thought they only make their crappy pizza its all

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>>78922694
>polentone
So now you're saying north italians are subhuman. Ok yeah.

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>>78922907
Have you never watched mafia movies?

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>>78922704
Except my last name is italian. Cool picture though.

>>78922924
I'm saying you're subhuman, since you're just a mutt not a polentone

>>78921547
They used to be the biggest immigrant group here in the States during the late 1800s and early 20th century. We used to get like 300,000+ Italian immigrants annually during a ten year period until Congress passed the John Reed effectively severing up to 95% of Italian immigration. From the 1924 till the 70s we only allowed 4,000 Italians a year into the U.S.
It's possible that Italians would've had much bigger influence in the States without the restrictions we put on them in the 20s.

>>78922984
Subhuman for what portion? The italian one or the polish one?

>>78922973
>il suo cognome è italiano
>lui non sa neanche parlare italiano e si define italiano
americano grasso LMAO

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>>78923073
>shitzil

>>78921614

no

A) The dumbest most retarded Argentine football (soccer) players learn Italian quickly after being sold to Italian teams. It isnt hard for Spanish or Italian speakers to learn the other language.

B) In the late 1800s and early 1900s many of the Italian immigrants spoke their dialects, not Italians, and many learned to read here in Spanish.

>>78923044
the american one
>>78922973
balotelli has an italian last name but he's still a nigger and will never be italian, just like you

Who'd have a better understanding of the Italian language nowadays: an """"Italian"""" American or some wetback that just came here two days ago?

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>>78923141
I'm pale but thanks anyway. Maybe if I was more italian I'd be an arab looking shitskin like you but I'm not.

>>78923179
Uhh what a dumb question. The answer is so obvious

>>78923215
yes thank god for the polish side that made you white lmao

>>78922907
Italians basically introduced organized crime to the US during prohibition. Gangs during the time we're largely ethnic, and you had some Irish gangs, Russian gangs, but the Italian mafia was by far the worst, most widespread, and most notorious.

Wops were actually factually the original Mexicans in the US. Americans only really stopped caring about them because then Blacks and Mexicans took their place.

>>78923179
How would a wetback understand Italian?

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>>78923280
And german

>>78923340
Spanish and Italian are romance languages so some things are similar.

>>78923179
the mexican probably

>>78923179
The latter if the American doesn't speak Italian

>Italian
Tutti gli esseri umani nascono liberi ed eguali in dignità e diritti. Essi sono dotati di ragione e di coscienza e devono agire gli uni verso gli altri in spirito di fratellanza.

>spanish
Todos los seres humanos nacen libres e iguales en dignidad y derechos y, dotados como están de razón y conciencia, deben
comportarse fraternalmente los unos con los otros.

>>78922051
I think it's about half and half tbqh.

>>78923179
Don't the wetbacks that come here now not even have a full understanding of Spanish?

>>78921547
We have a city in puebla,its full of italians they came from Venecia but they speak like 1800's

>>78923666
>Italian-Mexican

Sounds like a match made in heaven

>>78923289
This t b h
All the /pol/ talking points were hurdled at them.
Shit about bringing crime, voting Socialists(think of how Mexicans are accused of voting democrat), not assimilating and speaking a foreign language, being Catholics, and being a lesser culture. Some Americans even thought they were in league with the Pope.
This is why I laugh when I hear Italian-Americans talking shit about Mexican immigrants.

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>>78921547
Italians and french have been mingling since the roman era, we've culturally influenced each other and lately, numbers of italians emigrated here. much better than shitskins

>>78923726
Did they have a hard time learning french?

>>78923705
Except Italians aren't half native and they have white skin

Mexicans generally don't. That's why it's different

>>78923726
No, in fact when i start focusing i can decipher the context and meaning of most sentences.

>>78922778
Why is Italian internet so bad? I would have guessed every country west of the Slav cunts would have good internet.

>>78923799
Slavs have way better internet than most europeans. Heck, romanians can have gigs per second of downloading speed for less than ten bucks.

>>78923799
eastern euro internet is off the charts
western euro internet is hot garbage

>>78923666
Nice trips, Satan.

>>78923827
>>78923841
Holy shit, well that's counterintuitive. I guess I've just always had the impression that pretty much everything is better/nicer in the west but at least they've got something.

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>>78923764
>Except Italians aren't half native and they have white skin
>they have white skin

>>78923889
mostly because they got it later than us, so we're still stuck with ancient cables and facilities wich are very inefficient and expensive to modernize, while they got it later when more advanced shit was available for cheap

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>>78923685
they look a bit germanic throught

>>78921547
Boppati boopi

>>78921547
pizza, and soccer (football) became more popular around that time

>>78921689
lel

>>78924073
The very few Italians we got were all from the North.

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>>78922200
>italians aren't mixed
bad bait

>>78924275
Hope your mother dies tonight faggot.

>>78923004
These restrictions Never were placed on latin Americans
>>78923289
t. Pablo de la Huerta
There was no welfare state in the early 20th century

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>>78924442
I am the exact same as bronze age greek. You are a mullato

>55.5 thousand in Africa
>5.1 thousand in Asia
tell me about them.

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>>78924548
>I Am Greek
good one

>>78921547
Do Italians think that Italian-Americans are the best representative of the diaspora?

I never hear Italians talk about Argentina or Brazil with any kind of pride

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>>78924578
I sono grecco

>>78921547
>How have Italian descendants affected your country?
Ruined it. Out of white politicians they are some of the most corrupt. Only Hispanics are worse than them and blacks worse than both.

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>>78924611
Hold still medigan

>>78923705
Italians didn't collect welfare, refuse to learn English and have free healthcare/schooling while not paying any taxes.

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>>78924604
>huge empire that extended to Turkey and Africa
>blacks weren't discriminated and racemixing was normal
>not mixed

>>78924632
>Sub Saharan africa
Do you have eyes raggeton shithole?

>>78924632
there were almost no blacks in byzantine, and non greeks were considered subhumans (unironically), only mixing that would happen would be Alexander armies raping everyone, modern greeks are basically identical to ancient ones

>>78924696
Shhhh he needs to push his anti white agenda

>>78924611
>implying pizza and pasta ruined America

>>78924589
I feel like Argentine and Brazillian Italian people have more Italian sounding and looking names than the ones here

Like Antonella Rocuzzo

>>78924589
Well I mean, Brazil and Argentina are shit, and Italy is also shit, so there's nothing to boast about. Italian Americans can attach pride to the fact that they live in the current world superpower and thusly grow up with far more confidence than the ones that headed to shitholes.

>>78924725
He is a butthurt non white. Non whites hate Italians because we got accepted into the club

>>78924733
>accepted into the club
Does that mean that race is indeed a social construct?

>>78924766
WASP culture.

>>78921547

A lot. Send help please

>>78924629
>didn't refuse refuse to learn english

Have you ever been to New Jersey? Good luck understanding a single local.

>>78924850
There are italo Americans who don't live in new Jersey

>>78924839
At least you're not Mexico

Its actually amazingly similar the comparison of Mexicans and Italian. Both brought exactly 2 things to the US: good food and tons of crime.

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>>78924647
>quoting something I never said
>"sandniggers" https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/46/64946-004-CB78E6D2.jpg
>"pure"
and sub saharans were rare but not nonexistent either. Byzantine was very multi-ethnic
>>78924696
see above

>>78924927
There were no sub Saharan Africans in the Byzantine empiry. Stop revising history to fit your narrative

>>78924926
Yeah I remember the time italians made an ethnostate in the American Southwest

>Italy has no Italians
Lol

>>78924967
Italians opted instead to make their ethnostate in New York, New Jersey, and Chicago.

>>78924850
An accent isn't another language.

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>>78925029
Kill yourself my man

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>>78921547
Entrepreneurs, some created really big companies in the leather, clothing, food and port industries, especially in the coast
>>78922085
Are you serious? South America is mostly mediterranean lad. Also, it is easier for an italian to adapt down here as we speak a romance language which is somewhat intelligible for them, are catholics and have a laidback culture

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>>78924955
>he keeps emphasizing on sub saharans when I already said they were rare and not the point of my post
desperation, perhaps?

>>78925072
It was literally language.
>>78925089
You said that there were sub Saharan niggers in the Byzantine empire. Stop back pedaling

>>78922085
Do Americans think that all of South America is like Mexico? Yeah, Mexican and Italian cultures are completely different but Argentine and Italian culture is much much closer

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>>78925103
show me where I said there were sub saharans (other than when I said they were rare but not nonexistent, after YOU mentioned them)

>>78925054
>Italians and Irish considered white

In to the trash it goes

>>78921547
There might actually be more Italians in South America than Spaniards or Portuguese. Holy shit

>>78921593
kek

>>78925255
Not really. Spaniards and Portuguese are the 2 largest diasporas in SA. Italians come in at 3rd

>>78921689
Cosa nostra eh pal!?

>>78924696
The Byzantines never considered themselves Greek until, mayhaps, the very end of the existence. They, first and foremost, considered themselves Romans. I remember reading somewhere that calling them the Empire of Greeks would cause butthurt kek

>>78923764
>Except Italians aren't half native and they have white skin
As if that means anything. They were considered lesser people for most of the 20th century. White skin or not doesn't mean shit.

>>78924629
kek just like any first generation immigrant they stuck to their own kind. Why do you think people complained about them not learning English, do you think it was fake outrage?
Also I know plenty of 2nd gen Mexicans who know limited Spanish and only English.

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CARMELLA WOULD YOU PLEASE SHUT THE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

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>>78925180
How many times do I have to post this until you americunts understand that you aren't in any position to criticize what race italians are? You're 56% white only and I didn't even subtract hispanics from that percentage either.

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>>78925180
You're retarded

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>>78924850
New jersey residents are an insult to italians.

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>>78921547
>chicanos shilling their race to constantly compare with Italians

This is what makes an identity crisis?

>>78924850
>Have you ever been to New Jersey? Good luck understanding a single local.

whew so sick of New Jersey memes. They always are repeated by people who've never actually been here

I genuinely don't know what you mean by hard to understand accents

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>>78926927
lmao buddy, I'm of english, scottish, german and scandinavian descent, I can call whoever the fuck i want wh*te. get mad, shitskin :^)

>>78927302
ok. I don't care. Just don't go around feeling superior for being a nordcuck. Without italy your country wouldn't even exist. I'm not dark either.

>>78927089
Race forms the basis of identity. Mexicans are race mixed

>>78927302
>being this much of a mongrel
Holy fuck.

>>78927397
Just call the mixing a new race. Problem solved.

>>78927542
In theory but as evidence by this thread it hasn't worked at all.

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>>78927302
>tfw when the murfat subhuman thinks he's above everyone

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>>78927302
>muh

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>>78927502
jokes on you, I'm also spanish
>>78927577
sorry pedro, we can't all be white :(

>>78927609
only faggots talk about heritage irl

>these asshurt namefags
I always knew tripfags were shitskin troglodytes

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>>78927670
I'm italian, german polish and dutch. Tell me I'm not white you social fucking degenerate.

>>78927754
you're not white

>>78927754
So do you look like a slav, a med or a germanic?

>>78921547
they made everything shitty
every man for himself behavior, widespread corruption due to this

Heavily infiltrated our judiciary with Papism. Also our political and financial systems.

>>78927871
Fuck off. Not telling you because you'll just say I'm not white anyway. I don't even understand how it's possible to be composed mostly of germanic things like dutch and german or whatever the fuck but just because I'm mostly italian it fucked me over and now I look non white. It's nice to be in a country that's just as shit now as it was when it was established.

In fact I think it's worse, because back then only a few people hated italians for looking different from traditional white people in the us. Now everyone does it.

>>78921547
This fucking thread again. This fucking image again.
If I got one Indian rupee for every time I see this dumb ass pic being posted by clueless piece of shit I would be a Silicon Valley tier billionaire, and I would use every single cent of my fortune to hire professional hitmen to assassinate all the niggers bumping this senseless useless thread.

How dumb can y'all be. That pic has been posted a million times and proven fake and misinformed a million times.
Dumbass negroes.

>>78921547
Probably none, I know no Italians from Finnish history personally.

>>78921547
they brought obesity and organized crime

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>>78927983
You had that already faggot.

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>it's another amerimutt tells me i'm not white
shut the fuck up you half irish half english mutt, don't rain down on me with your WASP bullshit

Most of the Italian diaspora are Southern Italians in origin, I've heard about 80% of those 60 million diaspora Italians descend from Sicilians and other southern Italians.

You guys breed like rodents.

By Allah, what a bad thread.

>>78923345
Seriously how can you be proud of being part of the least civilized, most brutal and arrogant people of europe? Germans are worse than slavs in my opinion, they are humble at least

>>78921597
But your country is mainly rural.... Also italians are good with machines

>>78922568
OMG this guy is real?
I thought that was a comedy character.