All these little countries in here

because you bombed them

>>78892122
Before I clicked on this thread I already knew that it would be from an American flag

>>78892122
We tried, but it turns out we hated it.

They had some meanlingless anärgument of something unimportant like chickens or fart distances

>>78892141
>>78892142
to be fair we don't learn about Yugoslav war in history
it's not relevant

We go from Fall of Berlin Wall-Terrorism

>>78892175
>it's not relevant
American Revolution and Civil war aren't either

>>78892141

America bombed Yugoslavia when it was already on its deathbed and in the process of total dismantling. The first time Croatia and Slovenia already seceded and Bosnia was in the process. The second time all republics but Montenegro seceded and Kosovo was in the process. Its not like America bombing Yugoslavia destroyed it, it was already destroyed.

>>78892142
I'm with OP it makes perfect sense, why hasn't it been done before? Also Germany looks too big, we should definitely divide it.

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>>78892208
>when other countries learn about your historical wars

>>78892208

Objectively wrong. The American Revolution is one of the most historically relevant events ever. Pretty much created the modern republic designed by enlightenment ideals and went on to influence countless countries including France most obviously.

>>78892122
Who in their right minds would want to be a part of the same country as albania

>>78892208
Maybe not to foreigner
But to American it's the most important

Only wars we learn in history class are

French-Indian War
American Revolution
Indian Wars
Spanish-American War
Civil War
Mexican-American War
War of 1812 (Barely)
World War 1
World War 2
Vietnam
Korea
Afghanistan
War of the Roses
Napoleonic Wars
Chinese Civil War
Russian Civil War
Gulf War
Israel-Muslim War
Spanish Civil War
Invasion of Grenada

>>78892297
Oh also Invasion of Panama, and the Cuban shit (if you consider those wars)

>>78892297
>Indian Wars
These are literally all I learned about up until high school. Europeans learn foreign languages, we learn what tf Chumash eat.

Autonomous micro states are the future, the age of imperialism and clay theft must end.

>>78892330
To be fair Indians are vastly more important for an American as opposed to Medieval Europe or even a second language

>>78892175
this always confused me. it's actually one of the more relevant military conflicts we've been involved with in recent history and if we hear about it AT ALL in school it's like a day's discussion at most. i had to read about it at home because you didn't hear about it in school and at college you'd have to take pretty specific history courses to get a good education on it.

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>>78892122

Something something debt to USA something something USA fucking us over over debt causing lots of unhappy people going to nationalism something something genocide

>>78892337
t. Catalan on vacation

>>78892346
Probably because it didn't directly tie into Communism. Nor was it something that threatened any major NATO nations, so there's really no point.

It's like Syria, even if we started bombing Assad it's unlikely it'd be remembered much in American history books.

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>>78892251
Lets JUST it up.

>>78892365

>prop your economy up on international loans
>loans are not grants and must be paid back eventually
>can't pay them back
>economy collapses and turn into a genocidal dictatorship
>THE USA DID THIS

>>78892373
>Probably because it didn't directly tie into Communism.
if not directly then indirectly in some ways. that shouldn't matter though, we were involved in a war that ended up balkanizing yugoslavia which has had lasting impacts up until today.

>>78892122
They were but some /pol/ tier brainlets runied everything

>>78892263
>The American Revolution is one of the most historically relevant events ever
for you

Europe essentially kept going exactly as it was on the same development trajectories. In fact for most of Europe at the time the American Revolution was basically a theatre of battle for the wider European struggle for dominance. The Spanish and French Empires didnt ally with the 13 colonies out of a belief in "enlightenment ideals" it was a realpolitik move to counter Britain's interests

>>78892353
nice one

>>78892481
the American revolution is one of the primary reasons Napoleon rose to power

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>>78892392
reform Prussia
NOW

>>78892509
Prussia is for Balts!

>>78892122
good idea, let's call it Yugoslavia

>>78892498
tell me how

>>78892498
is this this another episode of french aid made french monarchy bankrupt thus the revolution could take place?

>>78892535
this>>78892547

Why won't all european countries combine into one? Not shitposting, serious question. When will EU finally become a federation? Your cultures are similar, you all speak English these days anyway, your economies are interdependent, you are all following USA. What's the point in not uniting?

>>78892481
you're not this dumb right? you are affected by US global hegemony. if we hadn't risen to be the sole global superpower the world would be way different than it is today, the american revolution affected you very much.

also the american revolution can easily have been said to have inspired the french revolution.

>>78892571
>Your cultures are similar
doubt.jpg

>>78892571
>Your cultures are similar

No.

>>78892535
Benjamin Franklin went to Louis XVI to get moneys that we promised to pay back (we never did really) which helped exhaust the French treasuries and so on.

Also the French helping a democracy thrive wasn't a good look for a monarchy trying to desperately keep order.

>>78892605
>>78892589
Neither is most U.S. states
but we're one country

The difference between Maine and California are probably larger than the U.K. and Croatia

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>>78892571
they don't all speak English. English use is only ubiquitous in Nordic countries.

>>78892571
Tell us your secret first Ivan, you got dozens and dozens of different ethnicities and cultures in your country and only troublemakers seem to be Chechens and Tuvans (if you go mess with them that is).

>>78892625
HERE WE GO

>>78892481

>British education

>>78892625
Uh oh.....

>>78892605
What are the differences between Dutch and Italian cultures? You eat waffles and they eat pizza? You have same history, same religion, same everything.

>>78892571
they will, its just edgy neets living on their gov. money shitposting about muh sovereignity, while their elected government agrees to every decision the EU makes

>>78892625
>The difference between Maine and California are probably larger than the U.K. and Croatia

Here is your (You), now troll somewhere else

>>78892576
The US was not the global hegemon until 1945. that's 162 years after the American Revolution

The American Revolution was a set back for the British Empire, which nevertheless didn't reach its greatest power and extent (and become the world superpower) until the 1800s.

Meanwhile the French (Britain's greatest rival for hegemony) gained from the American Revolution, but also did not achieve their greatest power until later.

>>78892631
*germanic
That's the main reason they learn English easily.
>>78892625
bro come on.

>>78892297
>War of the Roses
Never learnt it
>Napoleonic Wars
Barely
>Russian Civil War
Never
>Israel-Muslim War
Never
>Spanish Civil War
Briefly mentioned
>Invasion of Grenada
Never

Public American education is so shit

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>>78892625
>The difference between Maine and California are probably larger than the U.K. and Croatia

>>78892658
>same religion

prot*stant vs catholic

>>78892658
>What are the differences between Dutch and Italian cultures?
A whole lot

>You eat waffles and they eat pizza?
Waffles is Belgium

>You have same history
No

>Same religion
Calvinism vs Catholic

>same everything.
Nyet

Russia and the US should become one country, same culture, history, religion and everything

>>78892676
no, English is not ubiquitous in all Germanic countries, you fucking idiot. Germany, the largest non-Anglophonic Germanic country, does not have even 75% English speakers

>>78892674
>The US was not the global hegemon until 1945. that's 162 years after the American Revolution
...and? if the revolution never happened we wouldn't have EVER become the global hegemon. and we put the concept of republicanism and a weakened (i.e. one you can remove from power) polity. this sparked their revolution.

>>78892634
Tuvans are not troublemakers at all and Chechens chilled out a lot since the 90s. And why would there be a secret? Why can't different ethnicities live in same country in peace?

>>78892714
put the concepts in their minds with our revolution**

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>>78892658
>same religion

>>78892625
The difference in two neighbouring villages in Russia can be bigger than between Finland and Portugal.

Russia needs to join the 21st century and change to the Latin alphabet.

>>78892702
>A whole lot
Examples? Protestantism and Catholicism are 2 branches of western Christianity.

>>78892645
im right though. The french revolution was the revolution that rocked europe, and the french revolution didn't happen because of the American revolution.
There were elements of >>78892620 but there was also
>the fact that the french aristocracy and royal family were part of an absolute monarchy (nothing like the system in the 13 colonies before independence)
>feudalism was still the actual way of living
>the 7 years war. in europe. in which france had nearly 30 times as many people killed as in the American revolutionary war

Im not saying the revolution in the US was irrelevant, im saying that to european powers it was a sideshow and that the french kings had completely dildo'd their country without the help of the revolutionary war in america (which was actually a success)

>>78892757
Cyrillic is objectively superior

>>78892703
Look at the Netherlands and Austria. People who speak Germanic languages natively can pick up another one easily nordicboo. I don't know what Germany's excuse is but it's probably because half their country was under Soviet rule just a little while ago. (which is why people from Eastern Gremany who grew up then don't speak English as well like Angela Merkel)

>>78892734
who cares?
it's not like eurpean christians follow the religious dogma anyways

>7 borders
>6 republics
>5 ethnic groups
>4 languages
>3 religions
>2 alphabets
>1 country

>>78892714
re-read my original post here >>78892481 where i specifically said "Europe essentially kept going exactly as it was on the same development trajectories"

that the US became a superpower 162 years later is relevant now, but it doesnt make the revolution the most important thing that happened THEN.

>and we put the concept of republicanism and a weakened (i.e. one you can remove from power) polity. this sparked their revolution.
what do you mean? There was influence from some individual american revolutionaries (Jefferson in particular) but the American revolution absolutely did not invent republicanism. The french would have known all about that because everyone in europe studied the classics, particularly republican rome

>>78892798
The people are just way different. Think differently about food, relationships, work, free time etc.
I know 3 Italians pretty well and they're pretty different. The Dutch are closer to Fins than Italians

>>78892805
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_French_Revolution

where did you learn any of this? our revolution wasn't the only cause but you could easily say it was one of the biggest and for many reasons, notably ideological and financial

>>78892631
why are Austrians good at English?

>>78892859
>I don't know what Germany's excuse is but it's probably because half their country was under Soviet rule just a little while ago.
It's because they don't see a reason to learn it.

>>78892245
>implying serbia wouldn't have conquered them all if nato didnt bomb them

>>78892916
why not?

>>78892175
No one here assumes an american has ever heard of it

>>78892734
filthy heretic

>>78892928
how much did you learn about the mexican-american war?

oh

>>78892903
It wasn't. It might have been the droplet that made the bucket spill but it was unavoidable.

Also talking about republics, there was a pretty powerful one neighbouring them for a while. The concept of a republic wasn't something new in modern Europe

>>78892828
This! I agree, it's much more phonetic

>>78892263
I hope you get gunned down by a meth head, trigger happy copper.
Americans have no fucking right to be apart of the modern world. All you do is weigh it down.

>>78892959
Nothing, what's your point

>>78892982
I agree to a point. Certain states deserve to be a part of world affaires; New York, Texas, Florida, California and maybe Georgia, but the rest need a nuke.
However, yes should get out of the world. We should withdraw all foreign aid, military, UN, everything. Then we'll see how loud the knocks at our front door get.

>>78892122
is this bait

>>78893001
it's almost like we learn things based on how relevant they are to our lives

you're a fucking idiot for knowing nothing about the spanish american war though lmao

>>78892263
>american "revolution" influencing the french revolution
jeez
imagine being this stupid

>>78893195
mexican american**

but you probably know fuck all about either

>>78892297
desu i didn't even learn about the french-indian war nor napoleonic and barely ww1

>>78893204
that's what it says in all our textbooks. The American revolution led to the french revolution, and then to other revolutions all around europe

>>78892122
stop shitting door knobs

>>78893195
At what point did I call you an idiot m8

>>78892263
Not him, but I'm pretty sure the Dutch Republic came a few centuries before the American one. And yours is based on ours.

>>78893204
imagine being so fucking stupid that you think it didn't

holy shit lol

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>>78892122
nobody wants to be in a same country with serbia

>>78893354
why not? They seem like nice lads

>>78892122
What could possibly go wrong?

>>78893391
until they rule over you

>>78893391
Until genocide happens

>>78893321
>1581–1795
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Republic

>The framers of the U.S. Constitution were influenced by the Constitution of the Republic of the United Provinces. They took from the Dutch Republic the idea of a "sovereign union of sovereign states". They also took from the Dutch example the need for political and administrative power to be exercised and interlocked at different levels: local, regional and national. The other great example taken from the Dutch was the ability to compromise in order to achieve a goal for the common good.
>In addition, the Act of Abjuration, essentially the declaration of independence of the United Provinces, is strikingly similar to the later American Declaration of Independence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_and_government_of_the_Dutch_Republic#Influence

>The Dutch revolt against their lawful sovereign, most obviously illustrated in the Act of Abjuration (1581), implied that a sovereign could be deposed by the population if there was agreement that he did not fulfill his God-given responsibility.[citation needed] This act by the Dutch challenged the concept of the divine right of kings[citation needed] and eventually led to the formation of the Dutch Republic. The acceptance of a non-monarchic country by the other European powers in 1648 spread across Europe, fueling resistance against the divine power of Kings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Golden_Age

>Earlier philosophers whose work influenced the Enlightenment included Francis Bacon, René Descartes, John Locke and Baruch Spinoza
Descartes, Locke and Spinoza all lived in the Netherlands by the way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment

>>78893537
oh god it's this larper again

>>78893583
The only larper here is the person pretending American history is somewhat relevant before WW2.

>>78893275
lol
couldn't expect anything else from you arrogant fucks anyway

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>>78893613
At least we are relevant at some point in history

Why was Albania never a part of Yugoslavia?

>>78893638
Back to school with you

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>>78893658
because it's full of albanians

>>78893658
Nobody wants the Albanians

>>78893658
Albanians are not South Slavic and have nothing in common with South Slavic people other than vague geographical location. The better question is why would Albania ever have become a part of Yugoslavia?

>>78893638
Fact is without the Netherlands you wouldn't even exist.
We supplied your ideals, your arms and fought a global war against the British.
Even when you became relevant in WW2 you owed it to an American president with Dutch heritage from a Dutch build city.

>>78892122
yugolsavia slowly devolved from a union into a serbian domination on other ethnicities until it imploded

>>78893658
Albanian commies were Stalinist and Maoist, Tito broke with Stalin in favour of his own brand of communism.

>>78893658
better question is why Bulgaria didn't join in?

>>78892916
self-reported

>>78893768
too russophile I think

>>78892923
>croatia and slovenia left yugo in 1991, won the war in 1995
>nato bombed serbia in 1999

>>78893685
just do it
kek

>>78893685
I never can comprehend how they manage to mix durkaism with the adoration of Kastrioti, a Christian who btfo the durka invaders.

>>78893768
Bad blood between Bulgaria and Serbia I guess, see Second Balkan war and the First World War.

>>78895164
Tito wanted bulgaria to enter yugoslavia, that's all I know

>>78892481
it did make the british shift their colonial focus tbf

the dutch and the french would have been in Australia right now were it not for the revolution

>>78893638
KEK you're not saying the Dutch weren't relevant are you?

in the 17th century the Dutch were the fucking kings of Europe mate. Most modern economic developments stem back to the shit the Dutch were doing back then

>>78892658
culture alone isn't the problem, there's also distance and different conditions

over here we have problems with Western Australia and the rest of the country despite us having a fairly homogenous culture. Policies that benefit the rest of the country are often bad for people living in WA.

>>78893685
is this what normal albanians look like?

>>78892245
>America bombed Yugoslavia when it was already on its deathbed and in the process of total dismantling. The first time Croatia and Slovenia already seceded and Bosnia was in the process. The second time all republics but Montenegro seceded and Kosovo was in the process. Its not like America bombing Yugoslavia destroyed it, it was already destroyed.

The CIA was working for decades to break up Yugoslavia though.

yeah, about that...

wasn't working out the first, what? three or four times that was the way of things?

>>78895938

It was the great and powerful CIA that totally caused the breakup of the Yugoslavia! Yep, that's the only thing that ever could have been responsible for such an unlikely occurrence, and there's nothing else to say because it's totally plausible and unassailable

t. Putin

>>78895906
bro are you serious?
those are all gypsies from greece and the kid is a gypsy with albinism
www.thedailybeast.com/little-marias-real-roma-mother-found-in-bulgaria

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>>78893354
OY VEY DELETE THIS GOY

>>78893685
FAKE THEY'RE NOT MUSLIMS

>>78892481
>Europe essentialky kept going exactly as it was on the same development trajectories
lol

>>78893658
>Yugoslavia
>-slavia
>slav
really not difficult to figure out

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>>78892625
>The difference between Maine and California are probably larger than the U.K. and Croatia

>>78892297
Basically we would be slaves of the germans once again.. so no thanks

>>78893711
lel wut italians contributed more to muricah than dutch at this point

>>78892122
Their identity goes beyond worshiping a flag. They don't pretend they are just one nation as you do.

>>78892859
>because half their country was under Soviet rule just a little while ago
my family learned Russian and only little english. Myo mother knows some words but can't hold a conversation. She understands russian way better

>>78892122
Panslavism is mental illness
Irredentism is mental illness
russians are all evil to the core, they peddled this shit to destabilize the Austrian Empire

>>78893638
>american education

>>78892255
are you jelly of actual functional educational systems?

>>78892122
they don't want to
satisfied with the answer?

>>78892885
And a partrage in a pear tree~!

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>>78900561
congratulations, haven't seen such a retarded image in years.

>>78893658
why the fuck would it be?

>>78900561
Croatia is Central/Southern European
Most Croatians don't even care about serbia or bosnia because they don't live in extreme poverty

>>78892297
You can't just write a name of a country and them write "civil war" after it. It's not how it work.
Also:
Israel-Muslim War
That shit is extremely vague. All Israel war where fought against Muslim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Israel

>>78892122
Not that easy
Balkans = massive chimpout for anything

>>78900561
where are the Hungarians?

>>78892122
>american thinking their country is big