how do we make South America a free market, right wing area?

>>78658642

I don't know about the rest. But we are already doing.

Leftists are losing everything here.

eliminating mercosur and brazil is the first step
second would be genociding venezuelans

>>78658667
>eliminating mercosur
that's the base of free market

Carry out a thermonuclear strike on Havana and Caracas.

>>78658694
>he thinks mercosur is the "base of the free market"
that's why is impossible

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>>78658667

>Brazil

We are the only country with true right wing. You only heve center left larping as right wing.

>>78658748
not mercosur the failed institution but mercosur like a common market

>>78658667
Yeah, open fascism isn't good for business

>>78658642
We are working on the free market thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Alliance

>>78658868
my gov is making negotiations to join you and get out of narcosur

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>>78658789
>>78658661
>w-we have true right wing! w-we just don't vote for them
brazil is a socialist country and that will never change

>>78658920
I hope you join soon

>>78658642
We should try funding right-wing political and military leaders.

>>78659802
Stay away from us
Keep buying Alianza del Pacifico

>>78658667
just kill the leaders
Group of Rio must die

>>78658661
>>78658789
It's a "The Brazilian delusion strikes back" episode

>>78659101
Gran Colombia cuando??

>>78658642
The CIA has been removing commie leaders for decades what more do you want them to do?

>>78659845
hopefully never

>>78659872


And that's why every time your government call to cut relationships with other, my goverment (chile) say: "Fuck off" in a very political way.

- Iraq
- Best korea

>>78658661
>

>>78660082
>And that's why every time your government call to cut relationships with other
Que querias decir con esto

>>78660191


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/world/americas/latin-america-pence-trump-relations-united-states.html

>>78658920
Why? You're not even on the Pacific.

>>78659101
>macri
>right

He's Peronism-lite

>>78658642
Nukes and then german/dutch/british massive colonization.

>>78658667
Our current government is right wing as fuck.

>>78659101

>any of these politicians
>right wing

Kek

>>78658642
You don't. You need to become more commie, not less. Collectivism is based.

>>78658642
Memes aside. Follow our lead (and perhaps peruvian as well). Feels bad to be surrounded literal isolationist lefties everywhere

>>78658789
Brazil would be Canada Tier or atleast central europe tier if it wasn't for the northeasterners longing for gibmedats. Not even a race issue mate.

The only decent countries in this continent are Colombia, Panama and Costa Rica. Probably Argentina too but they will end up reelecting the previous government soon. They hate anything right deep down in their hearts

>>78660647
You are kidding right? Your country is also drowning in criminality. Wake up.

>>78660647
>Follow our lead

No thx

>>78660736
>drowning in criminality
crime rate has decreased from 32 to 23 m8, that's a great achievement in less than 5 years. It's actually lower than your country and brazilians probably think that travel to Colombia is dangerous. I kek every time. At this rate it will be less than 18 in 5 years

Pq tanto ódio na internet?

>>78660731
>Colombia
Justify your answer

>>78660647
>Follow our lead
we want to go up, not down

>>78660918
u a commie, aren't u?

>>78658642
corruption is too high, it will never happen

>>78660731
>Probably Argentina too but they will end up reelecting the previous government soon.
Confirmed for not having idea what you're talking about

>>78660790
Consequence free anonimity

>>78660996
just because we're right wing doesn't mean we're doing things good

>>78661025
that's happened for the last 50 years. It'll probably happen again, sadly. I really hope to be wrong

I honestly wish the best to this continent. How would an Alianza del Pacífico + Mercosur integration look like? Could it work?

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>>78661086
We South Americans are all bankrupt nations, mainly Argentina, Brazil, Venezuela and Uruguay. Chile, Peru, Colombia and Paraguay are the future!

>>78661023

Chile and Uruguay score good when it comes to corruption. the rest are corrupted shitholes tho

especially argentina,brazil and venezuela

>>78661136
no

>>78661086
>that's happened for the last 50 years
yeah, that's not true either

>>78661136
Brazil for example lost half of our gdp this decade

>>78658642

In this time...is imposible.

Too many millenials sjw and generations and generations of faggots who brainwashed for commie/left goverments for muh rigth-wing is evil/we are the correct moral etc


What do you expect from a country who celebrate a fucking alcoholic commie president and denigrate and hate pinochet?

Left scum is hypocrital and the mayor cancer of the 3rd world.

The good now is murica can have a taste of this hell with all the protest and wu wuz kings and shit

The right-wing in Latin America needs a popular basis where it can draw long-term support and militancy, instead of relying on the charisma of sporadic leaders and disappointment with failed socialist policies.

Without that commies will always come back to power.

I can't speak much for other countries, but at least regarding Brazil, there are three main basis of support for right-wing policies. The evangelical Christians, the rural landowners, the military police officers and soldiers. The urban middle and upper-middle classes used to be the traditional basis for right-wing parties, but they are increasingly progressive and socialist thanks to all university indoctrination.

Of all these, the evangelical Christians are the most interesting ones. Since they are the most numerous. Unfortunately, most of the Brazilian right-wing activists is very prejudiced against evangelicals and they are more worried about trying to convince the secular, socialist intelligentsia of the universities about the wonders of the free-market.

>>78661136
yeah, let's ruin our reputation by joining Brazil and Argentina

>>78661136
Alianza del pacifico solves problems in collective open market and helps people do business with each other
Mercosur just larps about and closes everything
That and expropiese

>>78661157
I don't agree with you on this though. Brazil, Argentina and Venezuela have vast resources. You gotta invest in education and avoid populism, which is the greatest threat for every single country on this continent

>>78661207
Eu acho q com o Doria ou o Bolsonaro, Brasil vai voltar a ser levemente rico. Eu deixei de acompanhar as notícias pq me entristecia um pouco, mas ainda confio no Brasil e desejo o melhor do melhor pra esse país.

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>>78660731
Colombia is just like the rest of South America, only more backwards, so processes that have begun earlier in the Southern Cone and have reached its full results, such as guerrilla leaders being elected into Presidency, have begun only now in Colombia.

I'm sure that within 30 years you will have FARC in power and it will be worse than present day Venezuela.

The only South American country that I see with good long-term prospects is Peru.

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>>78661265
just the fuck up stupid monkey, you don't know shit

>free market right wing


last five presidents of chile:

- christian democratic (center/center left): 2
- Social-democracy (center left): 3
- Right-wing/center-right: 1


Bu..bu..bu... muh right wing... muh pinochet muh helicopter ride


Fact: Pinochet era un huaso que no sabia ni leer, merino era un borracho y los otros dos ni sonaban.

Les dejo esto en español: Los Estados funcionan bien cuando existe estabilidad en el poder, cuando se puede llevar un proyecto a cabo durante un largo periodo de tiempo.


Otro aviso: El gobierno de Chile esta empezando a invertir en el cobalto, el mineral con el mayor aumento en su costo y chile podria tener las betas más grandes del mundo.


De aquí a maximo 5 años la economia chilena tendra otro boom minero (quizas hasta mayor al del cobre)

>>78660419
HAJAHhahaahahahahahahahahHahahaHahahaha

OUR government is right wing as fuck. You guys are just varying degrees of socialism, corruption, and catholicism.

>>78660647
150 years of civil war for everyone!

>>78661265
Colombia is poorer than South America average. But they have a shining future and Brazil/Argentina/Venezuela not.

>>78661025
>70% of congress projected to still be peronists come October

>>78661301
seguir dependiendo de materias primas. :(

>>78658846
it's called alianza del pacifico

>>78661334
This. Diversify your economy ffs

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>>78661250
Doria and Bolsonaro are exactly what I'm talking about when I say the right-wing can't just rely on charismatic leaders.

Let's say they win and implement free-market policies. How will they survive the wave of protest and contestation mobilized by left-wing activists? How will they survive the strikes, the marches, the articles published in journals and websites, the complaints of intellectuals and artists?

They would only be able to survive if they had a basis on their side, without that they are nothing. Look at the problem Macri is having in Argentina. He has been elected but can't implement his policies because the Peronists still hold the power in the streets thanks to their immense capacity for mass mobilization.

>its another "sudacas start another ideology war and think any of their politicians wouldnt sell them down the river at the first chance" episode
Yes, keep complaining commies, you'll get really far this time!

>>78661334


los koreanos y los chinos ya empezaron a invertir en la fabricación de baterias en chile, en 10 años va a haber un boom industrial acá, lo de tener las materias primas a mano es negocio redondo.

>>78661328
>But they have a shining future
Colombia is the boom bust cycle incarnate. You dumb american cock sleeve ape.

>>78661328
we're not poor, we're just cheap, we have devaluated ourselves our currency many times just to stay like that

>>78661203
que asco de ingles

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>>78661301
Thank Jaime Guzman. It is only thanks to him that Chilean lefties haven't manage to implement constitutional changes and enact Bolivarian policies.

>>78661334
australia, noruega y canada viven de materias primas

Chile esta preocupado de usar el dinero de las materias primas para disminuir nuestra dependendencia en ellas, es más, cada año el cobre representa un menor porcentaje del PIB
>>78661328

Argentina is sad, they are literally: Wasted potential: the country

>>78661359
>commies
South American right wingers are historically puppets for foreign (see american) governments though.

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>>78661365
>this fucking communist leaf again

>>78661331
>
Congress has Cambiemos as the first minority, and these elections are particularly important for the Senate. And they've won on every major district, with the Peronism in general crashing and burning. Cristina Kirchner went from being elected president by a 54% to just barely contesting a senator position

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colombia is all about drugs those fucking monkeys bringing crime
piece of shits

>>78661383
*Su inglés es asqueroso.
Igual que tu gramática mai.

>>78661331
projected like when hillary was gonna win the elections right cucko?

>>78661363
veremos.
Teniendo todo el cobre no forjaron la gran industria chilena..

>>78661391
quien explota el cobre? Chile o alguna trasnacional?

>>78661399
Nice projection. It is South American leftists who sell their countries sovereignty. Just look at how Cuba managed to make Venezuela their colony, just like Nicaragua in the 1980s.

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>>78661265
m8, you do realize that that message is a mocking against Uribe, right? That's the national university, which is considered a nesting ground for the left in this country. Also yes, it is possible that our populace ends up electing an ex-guerrilla member in the medium term, just like Gustavo Petro, an ex m-19 member was bogota Mayor until 2015. However, it possibly won't happen as this country is too fucking conservative

>>78661420
Why so much hate in this forum? People need more manners here.

>>78661399
Big deal, lefty politicians are historically puppets for Russia/Cuba.

>>78661421
spanish is subhuman so i could care less t b h

>>78661420
smart people keep business away from home, monkeys are too stupid to understand that

>>78661443
>Big deal
No surprise the prime benefactor wouldn't take an issue with it.

>>78661442
Kys

>>78661439
Colombia has future
Peru has a fucking great future
Paraguay also
Chile has future
Argentina no
Brazil no
Uruguay no
Venezuela no
ATLANTIC SOUTH AMERICA HAS NO FUTURE

>>78661368
this to be honest. Same applies to Mexico. Some places there have a higher purchasing power than the special snowflae southern cone, despite having a lower average income

>>78661462
>ooga booga
okay you got me there
>ooga booga ooga snort
fuck you

>>78661387

commies can't and won't touch the economy
pretty much the whole country knows that commies running the country = disaster


also a good country is one with a right wing economy and a commie tier social politics


Chile would be a developed country already if we had a better healthcare system, better education and a decent income for non-skilled workers

>>78661437
>nice projection
It's true and we all know it. The term banana republic didn't come from way of Moscow.

>>78661439
I know it's from the university. That's the point. Universities being dominated by the far-left is just the first step, from there they extend their control over the media newsrooms and the artistic class and then, suddenly, the country you knew as conservative is voting for former communist guerrillas.

That's how it happened in Brazil, at least.

>>78661306
Brazil does always have a corrupt government, be it socialist or right wing. Catholicism (and spiritism) are the religions of decent hard working people in country. Protestants here have the lowest levels of education and are the poorest. You know nothing about Brazi. I'm atheist by the way.

>>78661399
>implying being an american puppet is a bad thing

>>78661420
Funnily enough, this place is safer than Brazil and we still get blamed for their violence.... ogh the irony

>>78661301

>Pinochet no sabía leer
>Pero entregaba unos vuelos turísticos de muerte

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>>78661489
this is irony, right?

>>78661433

el mayor exportador y productor es Codelco, una empresa estatal, el resto son privadas, pero de todas formas deben pagar impuestos


el país esta peleando actualmente para que Codelco tome control de los minerales raros como el litio

>>78661500
Os esquerdistas se acham maioria
Dizem q negros sao maioria
Pobres sao maioria
Adoram dizer q sao maioria, mas nao sao .

>>78661523
>implying being an american puppet is a bad thing
Pathetic.

It has to do with geography. Most of Latin America is in the tropics, which isn't a very nice place for human beings to live in, and the more temperate Southern Cone is too far from the main routes of world trade.

>>78661518
Most brazilian protestants are right wings

>wanting to get cucked by the judeo-anglo capitalist niggers

>>78661523
>implying being an american puppet is a bad thing

Kill yourself fucking cuck.
Pretty sure you are that faggot always offering clombian girls .

>>78661539
Time to make a terror attack on the Panama channel to drag trade routes down a little

>>78661500
our universities are not majority right wing (and will never be), most people in there despise "mamertos" a.k.a commies, that protest was against uribe, that doesn't mean it was left wing

>>78661536
being an american puppet is great, as long they give you money


just look at Canada, you don't even need an army because the US will protect you no matter what

>>78661411
[Citation needed]

>>78661552
nem fodendo, crentaiada da igreja da minha mãe vota tudo no PT

>>78661570
Canada isn't an American puppet, it's an American ally.

>because the US will protect you no matter what
But this is true. An attack on Canada is an attack on the US.

>>78661500
Most guerrilla groups that have existed in this country were founded by public university student from humanities related careers. I don't know if it's the same case for the rest of south America

>>78661496
The Brazilian military regime was one of the first countries to recognize the independence of communist Angola, the Argentine military regime sold wheat to the Soviet Union, Chilean Piñera recognized the State of Palestine in 2011 and so on...

This is much more independent from U.S. foreign policy than Venezuela or Bolivia are allowed to stray from the interest of Cuba (and Russia).

>>78661598
Canada is an american state, puppet, etc

>>78661539
Many tropic nations are better than many parts of east europe, Panama, Cuesta Rica, Venezuela, Brazil, Mexico, Australia, Cingapore, Malaysia, Brunei, Dominican Republic...

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>>78661570
>being an american puppet is great
And you wonder why right wingers fail to retain power.

>>78661601
this is bullshit.
read some history.

>>78661536
I was being sarcastic tb.h, but truth is that it is better to be allied with succesful countries, rather than swimming against the current and getting a bunch of failed states as allies.

>>78661601
But I have pride of Ibero America, we are largest conglomeration of similar people in the world.

>>78661387

>enact Bolivarian policies
>no sabe que el binominal era una herramienta para mantener la estabilidad entre partidos, beneficiando a la izquierda y a la derecha y perjudicando a los candidatos independientes.

>>78661433

De que existe industria pues existe, simplemente busca sobre el parque industrial de la octava región
De hecho una de las politicas de la junta militar fue debilitar a la industria nacional ( aúnque en si no era una politica de la junta, puesto que estos eran simios que con suerte sabian escribir su nombre, , si no que de los chicago boy, con el fin de bajar la inflación)

>>78661493
>also a good country is one with a right wing economy and a commie tier social politics


Mijo, eso tiene un nombre, se llama social-democracia (socialismo-post marxista que dejo las ideas del marxismo, vease bernstein) o socioliberalismo.

>>78661524

Jaja, buen Chiste, espera que mi risa se demora en llegar.
Bien decian los del revisionismo historico de caracter cientifico, habra que esperar que se mueran los weones de 3 generaciones para poder analizar la historia de manera menos sesgada

>>78661624
>>78661638
Just Saiyan...there is not one Russian "ally" that anyone would want to live in.

>>78661624
Chile is a centre left-centre right wing country


this year we will elect a right wing president again

>>78661530

>El país esta peleando para que Codelco tome el control del litio y demás minerales


Sal de acá sandnigger qlo parásito del estado. Codelco es una máquina de despilfarrar dinero y dar bonos a los callamperos pára que se lo gasten en putas y alcohol cuando bajan de las minas.

El boom del litio morirá en 20 años o menos y chile seguirá sin industrias.


Zurdos cáncer del país

>>78661638
Unalignment exist you know.
>>78661615
Just like Venezuela sold majority of its oil to America. Really makes you think.

>>78661624
Do you really expect a nation that represents more than half of our foreign trade to have no influence on our internal matters. Is that or being chinese puppets. Basically pick your poison

>>78661616
No it isn't, shut up Texas.

>>78661663
>Mijo, eso tiene un nombre, se llama social-democracia (socialismo-post marxista que dejo las ideas del marxismo, vease bernstein) o socioliberalismo.

Not really, it's called a "mixed economy". Full blown social democracy would be somewhat commie in its economics as well as politics.

>>78661617
Most of those cunts are shitholes and not all of Australia is even in the tropics, only the northern third.

>>78661574
As soon as you give me a source for your "70% of them will be peronists anyways" claim

>>78661601
Guerrilla in Brazil was pretty much an educated middle-class affair, it never reach the level of mass support it had in Colombia, Peru, or even Argentina and Chile. That's why our military regime got away with killing just a few hundred people.

>>78661704
Better than your so good temperate eastern europe

>>78661707
Thing is, with Kirchner in the elections, the peronists/justicialists are divided
Shit will hit the fan as soon as they decide to unify

>>78661698
t. cornudo.

>>78661677
obvio que codelco es cancer culiao, pero el estado necesita plata y el problema es que codelco no tiene las pelotas para despedir a todos los culiaos apitutados


>muh industrias

esta wuea no me cuadra, siempre los culiaos hablan de industrializar chile, COMO CHUCHA VAS A COMPETIR CON LA INDUSTRIA GRINGA, CHINA Y EUROPEA

vas a terminar con un cancer reculiao de industrias inoperantes como argentina que deben ser subvencionadas por el estado 24/7 para que la mitad del país no quede sin trabajo y la wuea explote


el problema no es codelco, el tema es que son unos corruptos culiaos

>>78661729
>Guerrilla in Brazil was pretty much an educated middle-class affair
It reminds me of 60s radicals like the Black Panthers and Weather Underground, they were a bunch of daddy issues college students far removed from the average American.

>>78661677

No soy el mismo weon pero te respondo: La plata para la inversion de industria en base al litio ya esta lista webeta, y ahora estan investigando nuevos minerales.

>>78661700

>el gringo me trata de enseñar sobre politica (estudio economia y ciencias politicas)

Social-democracy/center left) and socioliberalism (center) = "Mixed economy" u dumb dumb

>>78661698
>a nation that represents more than half of our foreign trade
Holy shit, do we really?

>>78661766
It's the same way today, too. The most "hardcore" BLM people, including its founders, are middle or upper-middle class. It's hypocrisy all around.

>tfw my Ivy League educated black dad marched at the front of a BLM rally with his half-white son
>tfw he would never dare live within 10 miles of a majority black community

>>78661795
>Social-democracy/center left) and socioliberalism (center) = "Mixed economy" u dumb dumb

No. The United States has a mixed economy, but I'd hardly call us a "social democracy". The two things are distinct.

>>78661807
Oh, and did you know Obama lives in a rich gated community in Chicago? He sure doesn't live in the South Side projects with his homies.

>>78661795
>>78661795
el problema es que no podemos seguir dependiendo de minerales reculiaos, pero no podemos competir con la industria gringa


el unico futuro que veo a chile es tratar de vender energia, comida y actuar de plataforma logistica tecnologica para el resto de los sudacas, una wuea tipo estonia


>>78661830

Usa is like a facist state (economy) with free trade desu

>>78661766
>60s black panthers
>middle class
Ha what?

>>78661766
While this is certainly true for the Weathermen or the Symbionese Liberation Army, I'd say the Black Panthers had a more popular origin and support base, which also made it more dangerous.

The last thing America needed during the 60s and 70s was a Maoist party in control of its black ghettos. J. Edgar Hoover did nothing wrong.

>>78661807
I was exagerating, but the west [US (32%) + Canada (16%) + EU (15%)] represents 63% of our exports as of 2014

>>78661888
So when do you bend over for the mighty leaf slave?

>>78661807
How is it hypocrisy?

>>78661854
>pero no podemos competir con la industria gringa
Just pay your workers shit-tier wages, that's what the asians did and it's working out great.

>el unico futuro que veo a chile es tratar de vender energia, comida y actuar de plataforma logistica tecnologica
Is there anything that suggests that Chile has the capacity to do that effectively, though?

>>78658642
>free market
kys

>>78661872
>The last thing America needed during the 60s and 70s was a Maoist party in control of its black ghettos. J. Edgar Hoover did nothing wrong.

Or, well, Richard Nixon because he kicked the asses of all those leftist groups (who were funded by the KGB, I will note). Even though Nixon wasn't much of a conservative policy-wise (he was a social democrat more than anything), he was turned into Enemy Numero Uno by the left because he stopped them from throwing rocks at police and trying to firebomb government buildings.

>>78661900
It's hypocrisy because rich blacks claim to be part of the struggle, care about their fellow blacks, whatever, but they marry whites, move to white neighborhoods, and don't associate with blacks who aren't rich. They claim high black crime levels are down to institutional racism, complain that blacks aren't as violent as they're portrayed in statistics, but if that's the case, why not just move to a black neighborhood? What are they afraid of?

It's irritating to see my dad complain about white privilege in his upper-class white neighborhood.

>>78661925
>numero uno
fuck off poser

>>78661899
t. Lite America

>>78661935
How is your newfound class consciousness working out for you comrade?

>>78661795
>la inversion de industria en base al litio ya esta lista webeta, y ahora estan investigando nuevos minerales.

Esa no te la crees ni tú charcha qlo. Hasta argentina le esta sacando más provecho al litio.

>>78661978
It has nothing to do with class consciousness, I'm talking about race. Fuck off with your commie bullshit.

>>78661902
>Is there anything that suggests that Chile has the capacity to do that effectively, though?

yes, Chile already does pretty much all of those 3 things

-our food exports are decent
-when a company wants to intitiate business in south america they pick Chile as the first option due our stability and the country has a lot of potential when it comes to renewable energy due our meme geography

>>78662020
>im talking about race
Sure you are champ.

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>>78661899
GOD CAN YOU JUST PLEASE STAY THE FUCK OUT OUR FUCKING THREADS WE DON'T WANT THE OPINION OF A STUPID CANADIAN AND EVEN LESS A FUCKING SELF-PROCLAIMED COMMUNIST FUCKING LEAF, IF WE WANT TO SUCK AMERICAN DICK WE WILL JUST DO IT, AND I'M SAYING WE DO BUT NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR DADDY ISSUES WITH THE USA
PLEASE KILL YOURSELF STUPID LEAF

>>78662043
Make me :^)

>>78662043
*AND I'M NOT SAYING WE DO

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>>78662066
>HAHAHAHAHHA I'M A TROLL JUST RUINED YOUR THREAD XDDDDDDD

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>socialism will never work! just look at vene-

>>78662043
you bit the bait, you lost

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>>78662105
>relying solely on one natural resource available in other parts of the world

>>78662043
>>78662101
>allcaps frogposting
Fuck off back to 9gag, faggot.

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>>78662121
>implying i like m*duro

>>78662117
it's not a bait, he is actually serious with all he says, but you're also a fucking monkey that should suicide

>>78662105
venezuela is bad because venezuelans are fucking chimps, not socialism (which is bad anyways)

>>78661830


La socia-democracia se fundamenta en un estado que busca el bien estar social en conjunto a una economia de libre mercado o sea de corte capitalista, lo mismo con el socioliberalismo y la democracia-cristiana.

Si quieres infor puedes rivar libros como:
- "the evolution of economic thought" By Stanley Brue
- "Democracy and the Market: Political and Economic Reforms in Eastern Europe and latinamerica" By Adam Przeworski.
>>78661997

Porfiado el cabro weon, la inversiones en la construccion de industria por parte de inversores chinos y koreanos ya estan listas, se van a empezar a construir y de aquí a 10 años se estima que esten completamente operativas.


Aviso: cabros la industria del acero en conce esta casi en en 0 de crecimiento, voy a llorar.

>>78662145
> 0n
Opinion discarded

>>78662145
$0.01 USD has been deposited into your account.

>>78662177
>>78662145
Well this looks like a fight that could go on for at least 60+ years if Colombian history has taught us anything.

>>78662177
vos no sabrias reconocer a ceron ni aunque le pusiera esa hijuepta calva en toda la cara, retrasado

>>78662212
>vos

>>78662175

*Si quieres más información puedes revisar libros como*

los tengo de formato fisico y trasladar un minimo de 50 lineas para poder citar en apa me da paja.

I'm surprised by the lack of argies in this thread. Would they support a united SA. Afaik, their immigration policy is based on SA unification

Chicos, les recomiendo un texto que describe la situación actual de los partidos politicos en america latina y europa, el autos es Peter Mair y el titulo es: Gobernando El vacío: La banalizació de la democracia occidental.

No se si estara en formato electronico, lo tuve que importar desde españa en formato fisico porque aquí en Chile no esta. (y tengo un fetiche con los libros en formato fisico)

>>78662278
Talking about politics from here is kinda shameful
This place is baneland

>>78662175
>La socia-democracia se fundamenta en un estado que busca el bien estar social en conjunto a una economia de libre mercado o sea de corte capitalista, lo mismo con el socioliberalismo y la democracia-cristiana.

Not exactly. That's an incredibly vague definition, maybe Chilean economy classes are different from ours. In the US, the term Social Democracy is very specific, it's a semi-capitalist system with an explicit goal of reaching socialism.

>>78662341
Qué servicio utilizás para importar desde España? hay una empresa acá que te trae lo que vos querás de USA, pero no de España, está en Amazón USA?

>>78662341
que estudias?

>>78662105
>2004: "Hugo Chávez is so great, I saw him at the World Social Forum, his government truly represents the socialism of the 21st century"

>2017: "I-i-it wasn't r-r-real s-s-socialism"

>>78662427

Alguna mierda humanista

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>>78662439
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person

>>78658642
Wait 5 years and the right-left-right cycle will be complete.

But then it will start again.

>>78662479
>Several socialist intellectuals (Marta Harnecker, Samir Amin, Tariq Ali, etc: "The Bolivarian Revolution enact policies according to my ideals and I support it"

>4chan jpg: "It isn't real socialism"

>>78662439
Socialism only kind of """works""" when commodity prices are high and population growth is under control. Most wannabe soicalist countries put scandinavia as an example, but in reality scandinavia went through a hardcore capitalism period that helped most people become wealthy af.

https://mises.org/library/sweden-myth
https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of-scandinavian-socialism/

>>78662479
Who was the down syndrome retard who made this and though "critizicing a system that works and has no deaths ramping by the state" was a good idea

>>78662564
>mises
Surely this is free of bias.

>>78662479

>Burguerland citizen
>Dislike capitalism


WTF? Are you from that faggots who likes lgtbwqwer and muh wuz kings and shit?

>>78662392

Por eso te cite dos libros, el de stanley brue, que explica el concepto del revisionismo que dio pie a la separacion de los socialismos marxistas y lo que seria la social-democracia ( movimiento al que adhiere el partido socialista chileno y la internacional socialista actual)

Y a Adam przeworski que da una ecplicación igualmente valida.

La politica estadounidense tiende a ser algo "underground" con respecto al mundo, el mismo estado de eeuu es una paradoja, ustedes son su propia cosa separada del resto, por eso no pensamos en el mismo concepto.

Y dejando de lado eso, el desarrollo del estudio de las políticas públicas desarrolladas en eeuu durante la guerra fría es otro nivel (es un cumplido)

>>78662405
>>78662427

Administración pública con mension en ciencias políticas.

>>78662597
suck my dick dumb leaf

>>78662605

explicación*

Comento mientras hago mi rutina de pesas, no me pidan buena ortografia que las manos me tiemblan. D=

>>78662616
According to this thread you should use 16% of your mouth to suck mine instead.
;^)

>>78662597
did you vote Trudeau?

>>78662579
>muh not real capitalism

>>78662557
>Marta Harnecker, Samir Amin, Tariq Ali
Literally who?

>>78662604
>wuz kings
What the fuck are you even talking about? Where did I say that? Or are you just grouping all the things you don't like with all the people you don't like?
>lgtbwqwer
>haha maybe if i type random letters i win the argument

>>78662670
You're living on capitalism at this very moment and you say that capitalism isn't real?
Stop being a faggot dumb gringo

>>78662670
>Literally who?

People who have spent their whole lives studying Marxism and are therefore more qualified to make comments on the socialist (or not) nature of the Venezuela regime than you.

>>78662401

Buscalibre.com

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>>78662691
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>>78662697
>he thinks people supporting some policies of a government slightly closer aligned to them than others means they're claiming venezuela is a stateless, classless, moneyless society

>>78662665
Since I'm supposedly a communist. Voting for a centre right neoliberal wouldn't make me a particularly good one now would it?
:^S

>>78662750
Alright I understand that lack of chromosomes is something that needs treatment but a communist government would be lacking in resources since everyone would be using them
So better work, get paid, and go check yourself in your mental illnesses

>>78662750
>Louis XVI isn't a real example of divine rights of kings because him losing wars shows he didn't actually had divine providence

This is basically you.

>>78662773
who did you vote then? Did the communist or socialist party in Canada (whatever its name is) reach at least 1% of voters

>>78662831
Why are you so concerned with my voting habits? :^| Also Wikipedia or alternatively Google is your friend.

>>78662809
>sell ur cuntry to foriegners or ur mentally ill!!
$0.01 USD has been deposited into your account.

>>78662815
>>78662815
>u tink like dis!!!
Still waiting for your argument.

>>78662954
Being retarded is not an argument

>>78662988
>ur dumb and wrong!!!
Still waiting...

>>78660731
it actually is a race issue, northeastern want gibesdats because they are dindus

>>78662871
I'd just like to know how strong the left is in Canada. Also, I wanted to know if you voted well or if you might as well cast a blank vote instead of literally throwing your valuable vote into the garbage

>>78662605
>Administración pública con mension en ciencias políticas.


good boi

>>78663070
>voted well
And pray tell what world that entail. Since you've clearly shown yourself to be so knowledgeable when it comes to Canadian politics.

>>78663105
*would

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>>78663081

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>>78663081

>>78663186
Then how could you possibly judge if I voted well or not?

>>78663105
That's why I'm asking dumbtard, because I acknowledge the fact that I don't know shit about Canadian politics

>>78663186
canadian politics are all about Trudeau being cute and doing cute Trudeau things

man why are my countrymen so fucking autistic?

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>>78663081

>>78663146 <-yo

Si, me webeo solo..

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Dejo el gif:

>>78662121
Yes hello

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>>78663081

>>78658642
More vuelos de la muerte.

>>78658642

More Pinochet, less lefty scum cancer

>free market
>right wing
um excuse me???

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>there are people here thaT believe that Temer is right wing
>there are people that believe that temer doesnt want Lula in power in 2018 for corruption money
>there are people that are so dumb that hasnt realized that Dilma's impeachment and undemocratic regress to the neoliberal model was the best thing that could happen to Lula, PT and the left in Latin America
>people hasnt realized that almost the same happened in 2002
you guys are too stupid lol