*veto your vote*

>>78516880
>five nations most likely to cause shit put in charge of council dedicated to stopping shit

>>78516911
UN is a joke. It's just another layer for international politics and power grubbing.

>>78516911
>>78517683
They were chosen because they were the winning Allies in WW2

>>78516911
Actually,that's the very point that they would want to self-cuck each other. If the U.S. wants to start shit that only benefits itself, China and Russia will veto them. Same for British vetoing France and the reverse.

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>>78516880
>France
>Relevent in any way whatsoever in today's international geopolitics

Why is this allowed?

>>78517767
France represents the EU
Britain, on the other hand, should be replaced with India

>>78517767
The Anglo-American powers felt bad for them after WWII, so they let them sit at the big boy table.

>>78517767
We own about almost everything in Africa that the chinese haven't already gotten their hands on. Lots of military operations there too, that mean we're of more influence geopolitically than Germany even though they beat us economically.

Then something something big army, nukes, EU leader somewhat, "neutral" between Russia and the U.S. it's enough basically.

>>78517808
>The Anglo-American powers felt bad for them after WWII
>felt bad
>wanted to turn us into a military colony
Hmm...

>>78517767
France represents EU
But why is UK allowed? They're not empire anymore.

>>78517833
Banking, finance giant though that might be subject to change with Brexit. Also they're a stand-in for other commonwealth countries. Australia, Canada, SA and NZ don't colplain because they see themselves embodied in the UK, just like how Germany doesn't give a fuck since it knows its interests are defended by France anyways.

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>>78517828
Well they felt bad for Iraq, Libya and Syria too

>>78517833
It's three Western powers, the structure may seem outdated but it was a reasonable arrangement for WWII postwar

The whole point to the security council is it represents the countries with the actual power to intervene in conflicts, the one arguably missing would be Italy, not Germany (in terms of real power projection capabilities) but outside of that this is pretty much the only countries able to effectively operate anywhere in the world (this is actually more true of France and the UK today than Russia or China) who also have the diplomatic/economic clout to do so with some authority and who have nuclear capabilities.

The basic problem with the UN general asembly is every country gets a vote, which means fucking Trinidad and Tobago or Alabnia get the same say as nations with hundreds of millions inhabitants and GDPs over a trillion USD. That's the reason you get orgs like the G20, so you can actually get somethng done in world diplomacy without having to bribe every single banana republic on the planet.

It isn't fair and it's not perfect, but it's how the world de facto works.

>>78516880
once india becomes a superpower the UN will be obsolete

The UN shouldn't exist.

>>78516880
League of Nations when?

>>78518477
LoF was better.

>>78518477
League of Legends is better