So when will it be Japan's turn to crash and burn?

>>78477251
25 years ago?

It happened 30 years ago senpai

internal debt isn't quite big deal actually

>>78477251
If Japan accepted more migrants to help their population problem and labor shortage, this wouldn't be an issue.

Fuck off weeb

>>78477251
The Japanese central bank is 40% creditor of the all debt.
Owner of the bank is the Japan government.
So real rate of debt is 120% in Japan.
It's not a problem.

>>78477619
>Owner of the bank is the Japan government.

So in other words, when the government can't pay intrest on their debt they will print more money, thus making whatever you own right now less worth tomorrow.

>>78477251
If will crash and burn when the people lose faith in the government.

>>78477315
>http://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html
External debt is still high as fuck

>>78477619
>its not a problem
Your purchasing power hasnt stopped coming down since 90's, thanks to keynesianism and it seems that you are not aware of it yet

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>>78477619
HelIo Zainichi Schizo Chong Kim! Nice Proxy You Have A There All-Nationz Zainichi! How Is A Life In A Shin Okubo Psychiatric Ward?

>>78477355
T.schlomo goldstein

>>78477908
Explain how keynesian politics cause deflation.

>>78477835
if rate of GDP growth was higher than rate of debt, it's not a problem.
The Abe cabinet is trying it.

>>78477934
The guy in the pic is North Korean in disguise as Japanese right wing. Kill yourself fagggot.

>>78478057
It will become 100% in 2020 or 2021.

>>78477251


japan have much more money than their debt, and that's why japanese yen is more safe than dollar.


>>78477835

japan reduce 40% of their debt vy printing money, so no problem.

>>78478181
no anti-japan korean is no real korean

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>>78478196
???

>>78477835
>can't pay intrest
It's not a big issue when the rate is so low.

>>78477355
Skillful and hardworking immigrants don't go to Japan.
Unskilled lazy ones are just burden to the society.

>>78477880
just about same as uk and france

>>78477355
Even if Japan mysteriously allowed more migrants, I doubt anyone worthwhile would prefer to go there with their work culture.

>>78478181
Germany tried that to pay war reparations.

The great depression followed shortly.

>>78478154
>>78478057
100% in 3-4 years is super optimistic.

>>78478181
>japan reduce 40% of their debt vy printing money
A central bank must buy the bonds issued by the national government to print money.

>>78478358
Money has already been paid back from quantitative easing, so they'll not walk germany's way
. If you look at the balance in Japan today, 410 trillion yen out of 1050 trillion yen in debt is held by the central bank, and in reality it is 640 trillion yen. Foreign reserves Foreign bond 500 trillion Foreign assets 3.5 trillion dollars (380 trillion yen) Foreign exchange holdings 1.4 trillion dollars (160 trillion yen) Possession assets 120 trillion yen Total resident charity 1160 trillion yen

you have to know why the Japanese yen is the safest asset in the world surpassing the dollar. Japan's national debt problem is not already debated by economists

>>78477251
There are tricks in debt calculation for the US and Germany.
They are federations and they exclude the bonds issued by local governments.

>japanese GDP

Japan has been in stagnation since 1990 and will forever be in stagnation unless they fix their shit.

>>78478551
It's easier for the government to raise tax rates if everyone believes Japan is in knee deep shit ton of debt.
But our pension is not sustaining enough, and JGB is getting less popular among Japanese financial institutions.
Our economy's future is never rosy.

>>78478609
No country can continue expanding its population size and economy forever.
Any first world country will soon be facing the same problem.

>>78478651
As far as I know, Japan's fertility rate and marriage rate are increasing, so it is possible to maintain 100 million by pure population. Here in Korea, the fertility rate is rapidly declining.

>>78478551
Yen is far from being a safe currency, I believe.

Didn't the Bank of Japan buy a shitton of shares last year to inflate the market?

You do that when the public stops investing money domestically. A sign of lost trust and forebearers of bad things to come.

desu I haven't been invested in the Nikkei market for a while so im out of touch with how things are currently

Wish the good luck, cause Japan's economy going to shit is bad for all of us especially asia

>have to go to work
feels bad man

>>78477251

Their population will go extinct before their debt crashes them

>>78478713

You're not in the shitter because of that. You're in the shitter because you have been riding the NIRP/ZIRP QE wave for over two decades now.

You didn't want to take the fall of the crash and instead decided that future growth becoming impossible was a better choice.

>>78478812
The Nikkei market in Japan has been steadily increasing and is now stabilizing.

>>78478841
Their population will keep at least 100 million .... please worry about Korea here.

>>78478812

BoJ is the majority holder of the top 10 companies on the Nikkei or some shit. It's absurd how far central banking has been taken in Japan.

>>78478736
>fertility rate and marriage rate are increasing
I think it's temporary.
I don't like the idea of 'let's get married and have kids for our economy'.
The people have made a conscious choice to have less kids.
It's the economy that has to adjust to this demography change.

>>78478849
>the NIRP/ZIRP QE wave for over two decades
what does it indicate?

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>>78478736
>As far as I know, Japan's fertility rate and marriage rate are increasing, so it is possible to maintain 100 million by pure population.

>>78478999

Interest rates at zero or negative, quantitative easing (i.e central bank expanding money supply basically infinitely).

>>78479026
I know that, what does that indicate for the economy?

>>78478934
Been looking for some articles and most of them are from last year but still...

This is scary shit, BoJ has the economy by the balls and there's nothing anyone (public) can do really.

If they ever start selling the shares it all goes boom.

Anyway now Im really late for work

>>78478934
much more here s korea and china.

Nips have much more money than their debt and 40% of their debt ws cut off.
2017's japan's facial defict will 15t yen wich was dramatically decrease, and it will be around 5~6t yen.
Morever, japan's fertility rate and marrige rate is increasing dramatically so they will keep their population at least 100m.
Morever, their Life expectancy, real old age is so high and it is increasing.


Here s korea or china face much more huge problem.

Plz pray for us

>>78478917
the korean government isn't spending enough for public welfare.
economy may be weak, but people should be better treated.

>>78478964
It's according to un survey and japan's government's predict

>>78479039

What you've seen in Japan so far, economic stagnation. You have no interest rates, which means money is dirt cheap so you'll have more bubbles pop up because suddenly everyone and their mother can get easy money. No interest rates also means no savings. Go check at your bank and see what the savings rate on your savings account is.

Japan will never grow again unless they stop with their stagnating policies. The Bank of Japan basically dictates the stock market now, they are the majority holder of the 10 biggest companies on the Nikkei.

>>78477880
that's bullshit
japan's external debt (including private one) to GDP is only 74% or so; and external government debt is way lower because over 90% of JGB is held domestically (mainly by the central bank).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt#cite_note-7

on the contrary, japan's the world's largest net creditor and so external debts have never been an issue in japan.

http://logmi.jp/14626

ここに書いてあることは正しいのか?

>>78479117
>money is dirt cheap so you'll have more bubbles pop up because suddenly everyone and their mother can get easy money
It's not happening in the last 2 decades.

>No interest rates also means no savings.
Traditionally, but it's not the case here.

>stop stagnating policies
which one? are you saying if the government decides to raise the interest rate, our economy will start looking up?

>>78479117

>>they are the majority holder of the 10 biggest companies on the Nikkei.

more is china and s korea.

What i know is that japan's economy is increasing and will be in Full-fledged growt after 2020.

So what?

Japan will never be pushed by Germany, England and France in side of population and economy.

>>78479103
yeah, but every one says we should procreate, but that's up to us to decide not the government or the un.

>>78479187

Yes, if you normalize rates the economy will return, but first you will take a hard blow because normalizing rates in an environment when everyone got cheap money will cause a lot of damage since people can't afford higher rates.

>>78479117
Having a real interest rate below 0 means that the monetary policy is de facto, contractionary

>>78479206
>normalizing rates in an environment when everyone got cheap money will cause a lot of damage since people can't afford higher rates

That happens when everybody is already investing. Investment has been very weak in spite of decades of low interest rates.
There are other reasons why we can't afford higher interest rates.

japan pay debnts

>>78478358
It's not super optimistic, because the bank will buy more 50 billion yen of debt by 2020 and GDP will grow up more 50 billion yen by 2020 if we keep the current status.
Then the current 120% will change to 100% in 2020 or 2021.

The biggest creditors of American national debt is Japan and China.

>>78479216

The Great Deflation indeed.

>>78479272
to whom?
japanese government debts are mostly held by the central bank, which is owned by the government itself anyway, lol

they should start exporting their vending machines, my sister took some pics while she was in tokyo and they were fucking crazy

>>78479431
not to the countries with full of cirminals who are not afraid of break them for coin moneys

>>78477251
hopefully never. nips best allies