Is the dutch the worst and most retarded colonizer in history?

>>78436672
would you like to have the spanish instead?

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>>78436672
never forget

>>78436672
No, the Scots have that title on lock.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darien_scheme
Basically they fucked up trying to start up as a colonial power they went completely bankrupt and sold their independence to England.

>>78436672
Close, but Belgium its a thing, so no

>>78436672
No, they made a lot of shekels on from their territories

The worst is the French

iirc dutch hold the absolute record for how long they could keep a native whom they impaled into his ass alive, 6 days or so

>>78437186

As a Scot I had never heard about any of this until you had shared the wiki link. Thanks

>>78436672
No, the Portuguese are.

>>78436815
Well, you're talking to a Muslim majority nation, you tell me.

>>78438108
Didn't Spen bankrupt themselves going gold digging and then gave their gold to fund their own civil war?
Sounds like a big screw up, I recall they also throw away platinum or something.

>>78438081
It's weird how little anyone talks about it considering it's the entire reason our countries are joined today.

No, they managed to colonize the British after all.

>>78438176
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaj

>>78436672
The fact that you might go to a mosque (a mosque that could have been build by the Dutch) and that the native languages on all of your islands still didn't cease to exist don't make us the worst colonizer. The Dutch could have made you Christian and only Dutch speaking if they wanted, but they didn't.

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>>78438081
>As a scot

>>78438081
>As a Scot

>>78437740
Exploiting isn't necessarily colonising

>>78441710
you actually did repress and force conversions on the buddhist and catholic population in Sri Lanka

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>The English still haven't realised we intended Darien to fail all along
Good sassenach

>>78437740
Fuck off, the worst by far is Belgium. Our only mistake was not committing genocide and replacing the locals like the anglos.

>>78441710
this

spics from portugal and spain would have converted you to cucktholism and wipe out your native culture, like they did in the philippines for example

thats also why the japs didn't let the poortuguese trade with them and allowed us as the sole euro nation for like 2 centuries before the americans fucked everything up

>>78438081
>As a Scot
MUH

>>78441710

So you're saying that the Dutch are the worst colonizers...even worse than those Arab spics?

>>78441710
You had an opportunity to fix indonesia but you didn't and you proud of it?

>>78441852
>fix indonesia

look what happened to the philippines after the spanish "fixed" it, or to east-timor after the poortuguese "fixed it"

literally the two poorest countries in that region

>>78441842
the british never genocided the locals, they just got lucky and found sparsely populated areas that they could flood with the english and irish

if they wanted to kill off the abos it would have been so fucking easy, there was only 600,000 of them or some shit and they literally had no technology to speak of. A bunch of farmers managed to completely wipe out the Tasmanian aborginal tribes by themselves. The maori could have been wiped out with a bit more effort too.

>>78441845
>before the americans fucked everything up
If it weren't for us, you'd be stuck watching danny phantom instead of to-love-ru.

>>78436672
Tim Heidecker from the Tim and Eric Chrimbus special has let himself go.

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>nobody's mentioned Italians yet

>>78441884
>or to east-timor after the poortuguese "fixed it"
Indonesia (your mistake) invaded it is what happened

>>78441894
>forcing the japs to open their borders to the rest of the world using warships

ahh yes america spreading peace since 1776

>>78441893
Ever heard of America? During the seven year war, the natives were on our side. Now the natives are close to non-existent.

>>78441845
Didn't they allowed dutch to trade in japan only because of Willam Adams?

>>78441915
pre-invasion and post-invasion it still is the biggest shithole of SEA

As a
...
>Scot

>>78441884

But look at the US, Austria, NZ, and Canacuck after the English "fixed" them?

>>78441924
the English and Spanish also had native tribes on their side, all you three did was use them to fight each other in proxy wars

>>78441937
their "pre-invasion" period was literally less than a week

>>78441941
That's completely fucking different, those were barely populated countries where the natives were wiped out through disease and warfare, and replaced by europeans

>if you move Euros from A to B, they're still gonna be successful

no fucking shit

>>78441919
The world needed anime and high quality porn, damn it. You creeps were going to keep it for yourselves.

>>78441968
good post

>>78441933
they allowed us to trade there because unlike the portuguese who tried to convert the japs to christianity, we didn't care for religion and only for money (protestantism)

if the japanese allowed the portuguese to convert them to christianity, japan would be as poor as the philippines right now, instead of the economic superpower it became

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>>78436672
No they were the best. You deserved everything you got. The oil industry (as well as the rubber, tin, and spice industries) that the Dutch established is the only reason your country has a good economy today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aceh_War

>>78441845
>>78441884
>>78441982
good posts

>>78441982
>if the japanese allowed the portuguese to convert them to christianity, japan would be as poor as the philippines right now
literally makes no sense

>>78442002
literally makes perfect sense

prove me wrong

>>78442027
I don't see the correlation between catholicism and economic failure

all the catholic regions in SEA would be shitholes regardless of what religion they were. They're not regions conducive to success in the way that Japan was.

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>>78442048
>I don't see the correlation between catholicism and economic failure

>>78441968

And if you had done that, there would be 200 mil. less terrorists in the world.

>>78436672
They built some nice houses in Aruba tho
>>78441835
But why?

>>78442063
Indonesians are the least of our worries in the West

>>78442081
maybe for mainland Europe, they're easily the biggest problem to Oceania

>>78442096
Indonesia is like a 200 million man meatshield to protect you from China

literally how are they threatening australia? they're too weak

>>78441952
Nothing comparable to our alliances. Hence why the Americans call it the french and indian war.

>>78442109
the fact that there's two hundred million of them is a problem. They're violent expansionists and are a risk to Australian interests in Papua New Guinea (they already invaded half the
they're useful as a meatshield in concept, but its difficult to work effectively like that when they don't want to play along with Australia. We've already been at war with each other before and there's been lots of diplomatic and military incidents between the countries

>>78442159
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Anne%27s_War

>>78442190
And on the brit side
>Indian allies: light
Thanks for helping my argument, bruce.
The locals prefered to fight on our side because we were the gooder guys, it happened, it's done. Make your peace with it, anglo.

>>78442059
Southern Germany and Austria are rich and successful, and they're Catholic
It has nothing to do with religion, more the people

>>78442589
>always this same shitty response from cucktholics

Germany, Austria and Switzerland are culturally Protestant.

Do you want your mind to be blown? The Netherlands, in 2017, has more practicing Catholics than practicing Protestants. Yes, you read that right. We are seen as the stereotypical Protestant country, and we have been throughout history, yet we have more Catholics than Protestants and it has been that way for a long ass time. Yet we've always been seen as Protestant. It's about that mentality.

>>78442589
Start breeding more whites.

That's Russia.
They sold Alaska for nothing lmao

>>78442899
for money
also france sold some shit too, when they couldn't hold the territory they sold it

>>78441915
boy you underestimate how retarded timorese are despite our offense

>>78442954
explain

>>78442921
Russian Alaska would've changed the geopolitcs forever. It was a stupid move from Russia

The only "good" colonist is brit, look at Malaysia, Singapoor, USA, Aussie etc.

>>78443690
The English didn't do much with Singapore, it's current state is entirely the result of the Singaporeans' hard work.

>>78443711
Thanks for enlightenment Chang

>>78443711
Thanks for enlightenment Chang

>>78443833
>>78443848
I am Anglo.

>>78442063
It was America after WW2 that made us lose Indonesia, it was also America that allowed Indonesia to take over the nice people of Western New Guinea and have them purge the non muslims living there.

>>78442983
it was almost impossible for russia to keep control over it. if the russian government refused to sell america would have taken it by force with a lot of unnecessary casualties on the russia's side. but i agree that it was done under pressure from america

>>78441820
>Catholic
Does papist scum really count as human?

>>78441781
>>78441802
>>78441847
What if he's actually a scot just living in the US like that Emirati that shits up /brit/ during dead hours

>>78442190
Funny thing, after they took east timor from us, seems they refuse to suck strayan's dick either.

>>78441710
You tried but dont succeed well

>>78442807
>Germany, Austria and Switzerland are culturally Protestant.
WTF is that supposed to mean?

>>78444113
>gave them our retired rifles and train them for security duty
>shot their president with it after we left
One job Timor.

>>78444210
end yourself

>>78444210
muh money or something apparently

>>78444113
why would they?
the Australian government supported the takeover by Indonesia

>>78441995
HE BANDANESE HAD IT COMING
>breaking the treaty
>killing everyone of the fleet execpt for jan pieterzoon coen

>>78444435
Kek
>Send spy to east timor to marry Xanana
>After all mission completed she ditch him
Xanana is dumb as fuck.
http://www.baka.com.au/world/xanana-gusmao-and-kirsty-sword-gusmao-announce-separation-20150321-1m4q88.html

>>78444587
He probably knew. He just thought he had her under control.

>>78444122
No we didn't even try. We didn't what the UK forced on you. The area had been under Dutch control for centuries, but we just wanted them to keep their own language. Only the "Indonesian" nobolity spoke Dutch back then.