Spain and her little neighboor Portugal are ones of the most

>>78268840
>>>/pol/

ok

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>>78268840

>they are the european countries with the lowest percentage of native people too

What?

Yes, we are already lost.

Please avoid any contact with us.

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>>78269043
>13.4%

>>78269043
Most immigrants in Spain-Portugal are counted as native because they are second generation. Your true people is just around 80%.

>>78269043
Foreign born will include pre-1974 Portuguese born in the colonies.

The number of actual non-Europeans (Brazilians, Africans) is around 3% or something like that.

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>>78269902

91% - 86%

>>78270299
Around 25% of our current immigration is also from Brazil btw. The new socialist immigration policy doesn't change a dime because the treaty with Brazil takes precedence anyhow.

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>>78270299
This.
But Brazilians don't know our history after 1826 or even their own after being dilacerated by republicanism, sjw, political correctness and commies psyops.

>>78271304
You import niggabrazilians or southbrazillians?
There are a big difference.

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>>78268840
>chimp out and destroy two great civilizations because they were so fucking filthy
>treat their conquered subjects like near slaves for centuries, depriving them of education and other things
>fuck up latin america for centuries to come because of their dumb social policies and pisspoor investment into anything or anyone that wasn't a criollo
yea no. they deserve everything they get and more.

>>78271628
>Australian education

>>78271628
Apologizing or giving reparations for our colonial past is not going to happen. The damn niggers deserved it.

>>78271467
There's more Portuguese people here than the opposite, they can't complain

>>78271467
It depends , man in relative comparison of economic situations and violence of the diferent countries with different new waves of immigration. Most are Low-class and low-mid class concentrated in the major cities - mostly Pardos. We must tackle down on illegal ones that go to live in pre-existent shanty towns / slums with the other nationalities and bring violent crime and drug issues

>>78271681
>prove me wrong

>>78271711
>implying modern day latin americans even want an apology or reparations
i think everybody would agree that spain discovering the americas was a really big net negative for the world. It would have been better if we got it first.

>>78271908
No, it wasn't. We just didn't care about some native niggers.

>>78272001
Are we mixing Africa with Latin America?

>>78272104
I was only talking about Latin America t b h.

>>78272104
They're all niggers to me tbqh.

>>78271628
>chimp out and destroy two great civilizations because they were so fucking filthy
Aztec and Incan civilization were evil in their core and had to be erradicated
>>treat their conquered subjects like near slaves for centuries, depriving them of education and other things
Not true.
>>fuck up latin america for centuries to come because of their dumb social policies and pisspoor investment into anything or anyone that wasn't a criollo
Latin America was heavily urbanized and recieved a lot of investments. They became shitholes after WW2.

>>78270299
3% are you insane?
the number of non-european immigrants and their descendans that came in the past 40 years to Portugal are probably 1 million, if not more.

http://totalitarismouniversalista.blogspot.pt/2016/11/a-traicao-aos-portugueses-em-numeros_20.html

http://totalitarismouniversalista.blogspot.pt/2017/03/a-traicao-aos-portugueses-em-numeros.html

we are being invaded, and our elites are giving our nationality easly, a f treason

>>78271754
yes we can, we dont want not even one more of you here.... and we are not responsible if in the xv our forefathers discovered that part of the world, we don´t care-

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>>78272615
>Aztec and Incan civilization were evil in their core and had to be erradicated
The conquistadors weren't much better.

>>78273126
You are a retard victim of anglo propaganda, thats all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Laws

Finds something similar in English colonization, doesnt exist.

>>78273126
>Believing a duth drawing about something that never happened as an argument
Welp. Is this the power of brainletness?

>>78272659
I've already told you /pol/ people go get our nationals or stop them from emmigrating. If they are selling out nationality and some obscure cases of gangs taking advantage like in Goa, it's because someone left our country and the others accepted them to delay the collapse of ponzi scheme that's social security and govt. Debt. We are literally educating portuguese to the others. Thank god, france and luxembourg has a bunch of Portuguese hillibilies to diminish % islam pop in their country. PNR dudes must think about the economy or build a wall around portuguese borders. Those are even more traitors/deserters than our politicians

>>78273474
I'd also kill Muslim niggers even if it were the last thing I'd do in life. Better to take them down with me if I'm going to die.

>>78273474
Nah, your leftist blackmail doesn´t work. We are not responbsible for the millions of irish, english, french, portuguese, italians that left our countries for centuries. We are only responsible for our country, and our people's heritage, and if necessary we must close the border's cause there is not other way.

> must think about the economy

Fuck the economy, identity is the most important thing we have....

Lots of internet warriors around here

If only you guys had kids instead of "threatening" blacks and muslims

>>78273718
You speak as if both things are mutually exclusive. And what are they gonna do, chimp out because they feel "threatened"? Kek.

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>>78269043
This is what you get for colonizing other countries. You cannot blame immigrants for seeking a better life.

>>78273944
You realize most countries in Europe didn't "colonize" other countries, right?

>>78273474
Não deves ser bom da cabeça tu. Comparares imigração entre europeus, com a vinda de africa, brasil, ou muçulmanos para a Europa. Não tens mesmo noção.

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>>78273691
>i'm a leftist for stop emmigration of our people - people that afterwards just want double-nationality in case their host country colapses.
>Or stop shitty schemes that people take advantage and laught at us

Literally shilling for Michel de Silva that will have her daughter MOOR'ed and married /converted to a magrebin. Those emmigrants probably laugh and spit on us and our country. Temporary visas for those guys, not eternal passports for their grandchildren.

>>78273944
A descendant of farmers serfs that bowed a noble have to deal with whatever the elites and emperor decided in 16th. Americans are really retarded.

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>>78274023
Britain, Spain, Portugal, France, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, and Italy most certainly did. Sweden and the Nordics choose to have a progressive immigration policy based on their democracy.
>muh jooz
Actually, it's capitalism, which is the only valid economic system. Don't hate the player, hate the game, but don't, unless you're a tankie/nazi fool. Extremist politics are for virgins.

>>78274148
I dont give a fuck about them you tard, we are not responsible for that. the same way irish that live in ireland are not responsible for the great famine that took millions of them to the usa.
And how can you even compare intra-european migration with non-european one..... euro migrants are not knwoned for rising crime or for reverting the local identity. Thousands of brits live in south Portugal and south Spain, and they never threatened the local identity and don't rise the crime.

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>>78273944

Just this >>78274148

>>78274188
>Britain, Spain, Portugal, France, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Italy
That's not most of Europe. What you're preaching is very schizophrenic too. For example Italy had colonies in Libya and the horn of Africa. That's it. It had nothing to do with Pakistan, The Congo or Syria. To somehow imply that Italy shares a history with the Congo because Belgium and France were involved there is beyond ridiculous.
>jews
I'm a different poster.

>>78274277
exactly

>>78274148
What matters is that the state colonized countries, giving them its language. Stop circle jerking about "muh heritage" and realize that we don't live in a nationalist world anymore, one that led to two destructive world wars, and we are in an international world.
Poverty is decreasing, racism is disappearing, and countless immigrants from the third world are getting a better shot at life. Are you cruel enough to oppose that?

>>78274882
>cruel

>>78274882

>Poverty is decreasing
>racism is disappearing
>countless immigrants from the third world are getting a better shot at life

I almost bit the bait.

>>78274882
Did you forget to add there, the the west is dying.... you probably think that good.

>>78268864
Cuck

>>78273944
Plebbit

>>78269902
Most brazilians in Portugal are ethnic portugueses, you dont know cause they look and live like you. You can only notice the pardos.

>>78274188
Doesn't matter, we don't need immigrant shit.

Last decade 50.000 brazilians went to Portugal and 277.000 portugueses went to Brazil. We already have 45 milion white iberians here. You cant complain about us really.

>>78269043
What the fUCK is wrong with Sweden and Norway?

>>78275888
You're measuring absolute numbers without taking into account that Brazil is orders of magnitude larger.

>>78275917

I would bet that it is swedes and norwegians. Not an expert, though.

>>78276109
Yeah but what went wrong with them? Why do they not care about their country or their people

>>78276252
(((Progressivism)))

>>78275678
It's not. It's just becoming multicultural, which only racists don't like (i.e., salty virgins who sperg out and run people they disagree with over with cars)
Soon The US and Europe will have UBI, higher GDP, and better tech, and diversity will not hamper that at all.

>>78272964
Actually you can complain but you can't change anything.
Git gud

>>78268840
And nothing of value will be lost.

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>>78275856
But they need a safe home. Mean salty stormfags like you do not constitute public opinion. Go outside.

>>78276359
Multiculturalism doesn't work. And the guy who ran over people with a car over there is a leftist who thought he was hitting right-wing protestors, the fucking retard.

You are delusional.

fuck spain and fuck the spanish moors

catalonia will be free, you have been trying to destroy us for 300 but you will never win. VISCA LA TERRA LLIURE

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>>78276284
Being an antisemite won't help you get a job. Try not being an edgy stormfag who worships a one-balled genocider whilst complaining about "Muh fascist antifa" and "why won't feminists date me"

>>78276359
>Never-ending stream of Africans who contribute nothing and drain the welfare system their entire life. in addition to having 3x as many kids as the natives has no consequences

Really makes you think

This must be b8

>>78276463
>he thinks the echo meme is only used for Jews these days
>he fell for the alt-right meme
Get with the times, gramps.

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>>78276405
>And the guy who ran over people with a car over there is a leftist who thought he was hitting right-wing protestors, the fucking retard.
Where'd you get that alternative fact? Here's the real news:
http://heavy.com/news/2017/08/charlottesville-car-ramming-attack-protests-state-of-emergency-victims-suspect-video-violence/
He was registered Republican.
You're deluded into believing fake news.
And multiculturalism does work, increasing GDP and quality of life, meanwhile, fascism left Germany in ruins.

>>78276578
>heavy.com
Literally who?

>>78276578
are you nigger or mexican?

>>78275829
>Most brazilians in Portugal are ethnic portugueses

They are not. They are mixed, the vast majority of them

>>78275888
>Last decade 50.000 brazilians went to Portugal and 277.000 portugueses went to Brazil.

This is not true of course.
Not even 10.000 portuguese went to brazil in the past decade. go check your own immigration stats.

>>78276613
You didn't even list a source

>>78276698
I don't have to because I'm not interested on the topic to the point of putting effort into it.

>>78275888
>>78276647
>Last decade 50.000 brazilians went to Portugal and 277.000 portugueses went to Brazil.
I also strongly doubt this stat. I barely hear of people emmigrating to Brazil. Our youth mostly migrates to other EU countries (including UK for now) lately

>>78276800
>I don't have to because I'm not interested on the topic to the point of putting effort into it.
>wow can you believe liberals believe CNN, they don't do research like us
good job trolling today

>>78276845
Kek, who told you I'm not a liberal? You're the one assuming things just because someone has a different opinion, son.

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>>78276831
>>78275888

It's not true of course, (see pic)
btw i agree all europe, from portugal do uk, from germany to italy should close all the doors for once and for all, and also start to repatriate non euros.

>muh immigrants

>>78271628
>anglo's lies are still taught in anglo schools
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legend

>>78275888
Portuguese is a big part of your countries ethnic composition, the opposite ain't true

>>78277349
Not yet.

From 1992 to 2015 Galicia receives 192.000 immigrants. 8.350 by year. In the last year (2016), only 87.996 remain here.

>>78277815
87.996 from a total population of 2.718.525 which means a 3,23% of immigrant population. Inmigrants have trend to concentrate in Mediterranean regions of Spain, so we have a very inequal pattern of distribution.

>>78269043
To put this in context the percentage of black people in the US is around 12%

It doesn't sound like much but it's a FUCKLOAD

>>78269043
>almost 19%

God, I hate this country.

>>78277736
É por isto mesmo que a extrma direita tem que ganhar força em portugal e em toda a europa.

>>78277815
>Implying that they just didn't got nationalized
Poor summer child. Sudacas can get Spanish nationality after 2 years of proven residency

>>78278382

40% of it are europeans. So we have 7,44% of non-whites.

>Inb4 Spain white.

>>78278487
Anyway, the galician stats office have the data of inmigrants counting all the people who enter in Galicia from outside (counting the rest of Spain like outside) even when they have the spanish nationality. So, the stats for this is 299.371 from 1992 to 2015.

>>78279159
Protect Galicia bro and all spain to

>>78279159
Even more, we have the data of people by birth place. 211.145 residents birth outside in 2011 from a total of 2.772.928. This is a 7,61%. You have to note that some of them birth outside are galician emigrant descendent who come back. We even have a specific stat for retorn of galician emigrants.

>>78271439
Porque vcs n sabem ser elogiados? Ficam atacando as pessoas como bichos. Brasil é um país de 200 milhoes de pessoas com menos de 1.5 milhao de emigrantes. Portugal com 11 milhoes tem 2 milhoes de emigrantes.

>>78279589
2 milhões não é muito. Só nos Eua vivem 50 milhões de descendentes de irlandeses, 25 milhões de italianos, 60 milhoes de alemães.. é fazer as contas.

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>>78275888
>iberians
>white

>>78279731
In fact we are..... the same can't be said about you m8

>>78275888
Iberians are amerindians you dummy

>>78279715
Vc misturou números de diasporas com emigrados.

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>>78279731
Iberians are whiter than many europeans

Cringe thread?

>>78280046
Absolutely

>>78279787
>>78279937
If you consider SHITberians white you must also consider white all the people living in North Africa and the Persian gulf.

>>78280892
How? if north africans, persians are genetically separated from europeans, are culturally separated from europeans and by civilization and religion even more. Are you out of your mind kid?

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>>78280892

Hear, hear, the white expert has come. Argentine does know.

>>78280892
pato do caralho

>>78280892
Llegó el argensimio

>>78281075
Spain and poortugal are as European as Turkey and Lebanon.

>>78280892
el amerindiANO

>>78274882
I'll respond to the bait -bc lefty pol cucks see this:

>"The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have maintained their racial purity thanks to their lack of an affinity with bathing, have seen their territory invaded by a NEW kind of SLAVE: the Portuguese." - Che Guevara - commie t-shirts most printed

If even the commie idol says that the low-class/ people
were forced to meet the Kangz by force - desenterrados, prisoners, moriscos and jews, forced conscription by absolutist and authoritarian rulers.

>>78268840
>but they are the european countries with the lowest percentage of native people
xd

>>78281435
Translate: I know a shit about Spain and Portugal

>>78284828
Cerra la boca, moro de mierda.

>>78284959
Se dice "cierra", es fácil "cierra", puto mono

>>78285382
Hablame con respeto, arabe sucio. Seguro que te tocas la polla todas la noches fantaseando con ser blanco, gilipollas. Iberico y patetico...ah cierto que son sinonimos.

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El amerindiANO AajaSJSjajajasjasjs

>>78285886
Ten cuidado no te entren esta noche en el cobertizo en el que vives y te maten a ti y a toda tu familia para robaros 5$

>>78286245
El Amerindio tiene mas valor como individuo y mucha mas proyeccion como potencia humana que los moros ibericos.

>>78286327
>valor como individuo
>Sudamérica

Cualquier día te cortan la cabeza y te follan el esófago

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>>78286327

Menudo complejo de inferioridad tienen estos españoles miserables cuando se ven cara a cara con la potencia del Amerindio.

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>>78286506

>>78286629
Mejor anda a ver el "derby", idiota, y deja de hablar de temas que no sabes. Basura ignorante.

>>78285886
Se estivesses calado farias melhor figura.

>>78286803
No hablo idioma macaco, muito siento.

>>78286917
Não te faças de desentendido que tu percebeste muito bem o que eu disse. Tu és um gajo muito triste, isso sim. Não tens mais que fazer na vida?

>>78269043
>18.5
Poor Sweden. And to think I'd envisioned working for Volvo. Looks like not one single vulva will remain unscahted by 'immigrants'

>>78278382
12% of 300 million people is a lot of people indeed

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>>78286727
>>78286917

>>78269043
what's happening in the isle of man?

>>78278382
USA almost have as many blacks as Spain has people

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>>78287361
There are no women, so they have to keep importing new people.

>>78276643
Probably a White guilt leftist who hates his skin color

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>>78287481
0?

Why are the Portuguese not coming here? We need more Tugas in this part of the Anglosphere. I want a Little Portugal in my city!

>>78293226
Try to get the Portuguese still living in South Africa.

>>78293279
I want no substitutes, I only want you.

>>78268840
>tfw no iberian gf
I am but a filthy gook but i will learn Portuguese and immigrate the hell out of portugal one day

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>>78293329
They are European ancestry, man. 100% Alberto Barbosa. They get murdered there sometimes.

>>78293402S
Wtf I want to bring one home now!

>>78269499
alot of them are poolish plumbers

>>78293226
It's kind of the farthest away you can be.

But I do hope to visit someday. You guys are cool.

why is there no mafia tradition in portugal and spain? why let terrones have all the fun?

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>>78294204
No.
The thing that corrupts our society is mostly (((freemasonry))) and other some interest groups

There was a time in previous govt. That leaders of of the parliamentary groups of 3 parties of governative arch were freemasons.

We a red and green (comte chosen colour for positivism) flag thanks to them

>The 1891 flag-inherited red stands for the colour of the republican-inspired masonry-backed revolutionaries, whereas green was the colour Auguste Comte had destined to be present in the flags of positivist nations, an ideal incorporated into the republican political matrix.

>>78293226
>dig hole
>get influx of barbosa
>?????
>congrats, there's your lil 'gal, free of charge cause we're the nicest people

>>78273305
>"we must stop the mistreatment of the natives"
>imports african slaves to replace the supply of forced labor

implying the spanish were benevolent

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>>78268840
that's because of Sudacas and other euros retiring here my man

>>78275917
Lots of swedes and poles come here because of very high wages

>>78294738
The Freemasons murdered our King, never forget.

>>78294204
Well, 1874-1931 Spain was literally the Wild West, feudal lords and powerful people were hiring gunmen to kill those who were anuisance to them like syndicalist leaders.

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>>78299525
>Bulgaria
Jamás he visto un búlgaro en España