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What do you envy the most about the USA? Their gun freedom.

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What do you envy the most about the USA?

Their gun freedom.
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>>78233700
Their attitude the fuck all ya'll we're the greatest in the world one.
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The variety of stuff you can find in their supermarkets and shops
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>>78233732
Don't all countries have that?
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Guns are overrated desu
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>>78233774
You can find guns
Back to school kind of guns
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>>78233852
You're overrated.
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>>78233852
-t. Never gone shooting with friends
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>>78233700
that luck is always with them, luck is always with idiots.
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>>78233700
No hate speech shit
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>>78235006
t. gone shooting friends
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>>78238119
You're not supposed to shoot your friends, silly. The range usually provides convicts for that (Utah).
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>>78233700
Freedom of expression and generally freedom.
One of the most important parts of being human and it's oppressed in so many parts of the world
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>>78233700
Large swaths of uninhabited land. I guess it comes with being a huge country, but they actually did a pretty good job of preserving them, and I like the snowy landscapes up north quite a bit.
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Nothing really. If I really wanted a gun I could get one and I've never felt constrained by our hate speech laws. I suppose I envy their ostensibly unconstrained free speech but then again their government consistently brutalizes protestors exercising their supposed rights. Maybe the purchasing power of their dollar but there's nothing I want that I can't afford so that doesn't really count either.
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>Watch old French movies
>Spain mentioned
>They're not making fun of us
>No retarded anglo sterotypes either
Childhood is consuming anglo media, adulthood is realizing French media makes more sense.
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>>78233700
Same, guns.
>>78233805
No.
t. belgian
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>>78238309
>>78238203
>>78238091
Where's this meme coming from?

Why do people think that America has any more measurable freedom of speech than any European country this side of the Iron curtain at the very least?

They just have a bunch more freedom over where they spend their money, by being less taxed but having more expensive stuff at their disposal in order to live as confortably as us (i.e. health insurances as opposed to healthcare).

But their freedom of speech isn't any different from everyone else's
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>>78238364
>He doesn't consume his own country's media
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Their superiority in every field
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>>78238364
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>>78238449
>But their freedom of speech isn't any different from everyone else's
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>>78238534
Huh. Fair enough, I guess.

Do you have more examples?
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>>78238593
Nazi symbols being banned in Germany, but it's similar to the American's picture. I'd like to know more concrete examples as well
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>>78238593
Canada has de facto Islamic blasphemy laws but I don't know too much about that. Brits can get arrested for mean tweets.
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>>78233700
Our President literally is down to fire nukes at NK and obliterate them. It's basically what this Aussie posted.
>>78233732
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>>78233732
France and the UK also have it, although less deservingly so.

>>78238690
Yeah, I'll concede that Nazi/Holocaust related things are a good point.

But that's a punctual occurrence. It doesn't really mean "more free" in any meaningful way.

>>78238743
This kind of stuff is a better point, but it generally doesn't affect every country.

Although I guess that if every country has one and you guys don't, it puts you in the lead.

But it's not like people from Europe go around afraid of saying anything, or something. The UK is trickier because they don't have an actual constitution.
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Cheap beer
Cheap gas
Cheap fast food
Trucks and muscle cars are cheap
Liquor stores everywhere

That's pretty much it. I already own guns.
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>>78233805
no
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>>78233700
>What do you envy the most about the USA?
>Their gun freedom.


more or less the same

and it really matters where in the US too.

but even in those "rights" they are begining to feel like every other socialist yuropean shithole
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>>78238891

Literally this, plus all those 24 hours open stores and the variety of stuff.

I dont care for guns, they're for hillbillies in my opinion.
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>american guns
lol
pigeon caliber
non auto
low capacity

first things first: 80% of casualties in modern armed conflict comes out of artillery
other 20% between machineguns, snipers and explosives
small arms are basically just psychological factor
just like helmets, or boots, or uniforms
none of that shit matters, its there just to make you feel good

if you wanna carry out an assault or siege something or defend yourself, you are going to need radars much more than small arms
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>>78239006
Only shitty states have bad gun control laws. California, New Jersey, and New York are some examples. Some European countries do better than US states. Overall though gun freedom isn't going away anytime soon for conservative states. Oklahoma for instance has extremely minimal gun regulation.
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>>78238891
>Cheap beer
>Cheap gas
>Cheap fast food
>Trucks and muscle cars are cheap
>Liquor stores everywhere


fucking shit what are you stuck in the 80ies or what?

You've clearly not been in the jew and improved USA

it's literally russian tier
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>>78239140
Owning guns in a country/state where you can live 3 hours away from the closest police station makes sense, desu.

The whole anti-gun argument is only valid for more urban states.
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>>78239177


I love it when kek agrees
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>>78239140
Vermont is pretty liberal due to the NY/MA diaspora, and we have fantastic gunlaws and an actual centrist republican governor.
Don't move here though, we're full.

>>78239177
>Cheap beer
No idea, I don't drink so I wouldn't know.

>Cheap gas
It's 2.20 dollars a gallon, or 0.49 euros per liter here, which isn't the cheapest state for gas.

>Cheap fast food
You can get a day's worth of calories for pocket change. Food costs almost nothing.

>Trucks and muscle cars are cheap
True for both new and used.

>Liquor stores everywhere
Pretty much.
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>>78239177
I visit the twice a year.
Compared to Sweden the USA is cheap as hell.
Take a Challenger Hellcat for example. It's more than twice the cost here in Sweden...
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>>78239298


lol no


perhaps you want to be more specific where you live first.

since USA is already their own mini nations
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>>78239365

>Compared to Sweden the USA is cheap as hell.

For you. When I compared my cost of living between where I live in the Netherlands and some random university that I was considering for a position, I found it was like 30% more expensive in the US and it was not even a very famous city. Food and accommodation where both more expensive.
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>>78239367
>Vermont is pretty liberal due to the NY/MA diaspora, and we have fantastic gunlaws and an actual centrist republican governor.
>Don't move here though, we're full.


Poles in charge of reading.
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>>78239488
What city?
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>>78239488
It depends on where in the US you go as well. I mainly visit the south since I have family there.
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>>78239488
Don't study in America lmao it's not for foreigners. Stay in your country, although if you decide to work in the U.S after finishing your studies you'll notice your pay is higher and less taxes compared to EU regulations. Some American cities are nice to consider like Seattle or Boston.
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>>78239497
HAHA oops sorry

so many retards here on this shithole sight it's becoming a habit of jumping to conclusions without reading the entire post first.

I need some time off from here
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>>78239532
who cares about anything but the south 2bh
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>>78233700

I envy their thuff almost criminal police brutality... Because I live in a human right shithole where the thief has more rights than a police.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uGyLM2-BMRU
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>>78238445
>>78238930
That's just because you're German
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>>78239598
>who cares about anything but the south
I do. It's a wonderful place with amazing people, food and culture. Sure beats the damn yankee states.
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>>78238891
So much of this.
Also, you work a small amount of time in some random shit and you can buy games, tv's and almost anything you want, where i come from buying a tv or a decent computer means years of debt and worries.
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Fuck Amerishit. I love you France and you cute French anons <33
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>>78239669
learn to read
>BUT the south
>>78239637
learn to read
>belgian
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>>78239816
Sorry, I read it as "about".
I'm drunk off my ass.
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>>78233942
Meanwhile, in Texas
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>>78239898
It's ok, I just wish I could visit the south with you desu
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>>78240013
Bah just save up for a cheap flight.
The food and living situation is dirt cheap over there anyways. 3 months of hotel rent/food and booze cost me less than my monthly rent does here in Sweden..
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>>78233700
>mfw USA doesn't have freedom to teach science especially evolution in schools.
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>>78233700
At least where I live people never stop giving me shit for having perfect weather and not going outside to appreciate it all the time
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the fuck is that
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>>78239549
Ah yes Seattle,
>10000 bums on the street
>feel entitled to your money and let you know it
>cringe tier people getting meme degrees then demanding $15 an hour at their fast food job
>terribly implemented bike lane system
>prices through the roof
>housing bubble near bursting
Tree state is great, but king and pierce county really make living here frustrating. Its becoming california 2.0
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>>78238449
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>>78242914
>europe is one country
tyrone pls, you are north korea compared to us (us as in serbia, because "europe" doesnt even exist as anything other than geography)
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All the junk food
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>>78242914
Heh. All they are listing are things that are frowned upon, not that are illegal.
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>>78241909
I like it it's 100times better than California avoiding leftist is easier too.
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>>78233700
honestly can't think of anything
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>>78233805
WHat? most foreign posters are self hating cucks
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Contrary to the popular perception, and all of our boasting, American gun laws are actually pretty shitty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act
Requires a lengthy 6-8 month paperwork process (that is a license in everything but name) and the payment of a $200 tax to own:
- fully automatics
- guns disguised as other devices
- conventional handguns with a vertical fore grip*
- rifles with a barrel <16 inches and and/or an overall length <26 inches
- shotguns with a barrel <18 inches and and/or an overall length <26 inches
- suppressors/silencers/moderators/whatever you want to call them
- firearms with a bore over .5 of an inch that aren't considered to be "sporting" (completely arbitrary)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Control_Act_of_1968
This prohibited the importation of the items described above for commercial sale to anyone but law enforcement.
It set dimensional requirements that handguns had to meet to be imported. If they're too small, you can't bring them into the country.
A clause was added giving the government the ability to deny import of any "non-sporting" firearm. There is no objective definition of this term, it's entirely arbitrary.
It also changed the definition of machine gun to include full auto conversion devices. A conversion sear is treated the same as an actual complete machine gun.

1/2
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>>78245723

In 1986 production of new machine guns for the general public was completely banned. Existing ones can still be owned though.
In 1989 George H. W. Bush signed an executive order banning the importation of any firearm that exceeded a number of features (threaded muzzle, folding stock, etc.).
In 1994 congress passed the "Assault Weapons Ban" which essentially took Bush's import ban concept and applied it to domestic production as well.
It also banned >10 round magazines. Thankfully, the AWB lapsed in 2004, though the cunts in D.C. have been pushing for a new one ever since.

The only good things about American gun laws are that we can do private transfers of most guns and you can concealed carry in most areas. That's really it.
People think we're some sort of bastion of gun rights, but you can honestly argue that Switzerland and the Czech Republic have more freedom when it comes to firearms.

Basically, if you want a generic handgun or a generic AR you're pretty set. But if you want anything exotic you can either pay out the ass, or you're just plain shit out of luck.

*This has only ever gone to court once and the charge was thrown out. The ATF maintains that it's still illegal, but who the fuck knows.

2/2
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>>78233774
Just shop at Superma or City Market pleb, there's also a store that specializes in having the exact same shit that you can find in American supermarkets in case you have an appreciation for frozen corn dogs and weird Mountain Dew flavors.
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>>78238449
>But their freedom of speech isn't any different from everyone else's

I can stand on a sidewalk and talk about how homosexuals should all be killed.

Can you do that in, say, Austria?
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>>78233700
Well, we can have literally everything the clappers can, pic related, me, my otouto and my friend's guns. 3 of them are mine.

I used to be jealous of how easy it is for them to get their funs, but harder access does have its points. I mean, now I at least feel special for owning guns.
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>>78245980
Legally? I think so.

People would kick your shit in, but so would Americans, probably.
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>>78233700
>Their gun freedom
Fuck yeah
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>>78233700
Absolutely nothing
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>>78233700
Their blind belief they're the greatest country on earth while they have;
1. Worst healthcare for the masses of the G8
2. Most gun related deaths in the world, exceeding deaths from terrorism worldwide!
3. The belief there is a way out of their $20T financial predicament.
4. Some of the most draconian tax laws in the world
5. The variety of goods, now all made in China. The next superpower.
6. The sheer amount of money they spend on their military, yet they can't exit conflicts successfully.
7. Crumbling infrastructure, overpopulation and cities in decay.
8. Constitutional amendments which are tread upon daily. Thanks based NSA.
9. Like above, soon to become a nanny state. Citizens under the watchful eye of the fed.
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>>78238891
What kind of guns can you get in Sweden?
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>>78235006
what exactly are you shooting though?

just random shit like birds that fly over you or pieces of cardboard with targets printed on them?
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>>78246385
Target and skeet shooting are a lot of fun. Hunting is great too but I don't reccommend shooting random birds
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>>78246329
Same as us in Finland. The details are different but overall our laws are pretty similar.
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>>78239138
Small arms forced burgs out of Somalia. Also, a lot of Americans own guns to resist tyranny, and you can't effectively use artillery and air power against your own population. Well, at least without sparking a full-fledged civil war and ruining your infrastructure in the process.
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Their freedom of speech.

At least legally. In practice they probably have less freedom of speech than here.
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>>78246385
Targets, junk, cans. Pretty much anything. You can even buy small lumps of explosives at most gunstores and shoot those.

>>78246298
I'd hate to be Canadian. So close to being American, yet so far.

>>78247354
Small arms are also really fun, which is the main reason.

Among the other things mentioned in this thread, I really appreciate the cheap gas and loose laws on vehicles here.
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>>78246245
I find it disturbing that an adult who keeps so many of those teletubbies dolls in his home also owns an assault rifle
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>>78247418
>I'd hate to be Canadian.
That's because you don't know anything about Canada. Back to the very blind belief Americans have about how wonderful their country is.
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>>78247418
>Small arms are also really fun, which is the main reason.
Yeah, guns are in your constitution because they're "fun".
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Free speech, guns, wealthy, not a nanny state
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>>78247458
Why? Do his freedoms upset you?
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>>78247210
But what does that mean? In Canada, we can get Chinese guns for instance so I own a Type 81, 88 and 97. I also own a G36 and UMP, shitload of AR's and a 551, 552 and 553. All guns Americans don't have minus the AR's
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>>78239177
GREAT post
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No I just hate all amerisharts. Especially Chicanos.
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>>78247657
May be related to us being one of the biggest importers of Murican freedom.
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>>78247660
>But what does that mean?
It means that literally nothing is banned, but some things are hard to get, like full auto, breech loaded artillery and rocket/missile systems (no joke, our gun laws specifically mention those and state that only collectors can get permits for those). Look a couple posts above and you'll see my funs, which is an example of what is readily available for civvies.
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>>78247917
What's it take to get a collectors permit?
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>>78248182
In here, iirc 5 years of owning guns. Then you need to state the theme of your collection and demonstrate your knowledge of firearms that fit the theme of your collection. An example of a collection would be like 'guns used in rhodesian bush war'. You can also have multiple concurrent collections.

An example of a themed collection: guns used by Finnish defence forces.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IspQdG-cNcM
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>>78248389
>Then you need to state the theme of your collection
odd. Can it be anything?
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>>78239104
>hillbillies
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>>78239138
Serbia friend, you don't have niggers in your country, so this is going to surprise you: Guns can be used outside of war
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>>78239177
>literally russian tier
You would know
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>>78239209
>Large cities, full of police
>Where all the violent crime happens
>anti-gun argument valid
MFW
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>>78248494
As far as I understand it, it can't be too broad, such as 'service rifles' but it could be 'european service rifles during the cold war'. Or 'guns used in ipsc'.
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>>78239793
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>>78245723
>>78245779
I wanna applaud you for your work Anon, but these Euros aren't here for that. Every single one of these post is bait to get US teens and eurocommies to do the whole "I hate american, I clever hue hue hue" routine. Sad!
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>>78246023
>Restrict natural right so ghengis khan's retarded nephew can feel special
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>>78238265
Contrary to what liberals will have you believe, most of our land was preserved by hunters and rural people's that had an appreciation for nature. And not shitty urbanites that have never been more than half a mile from the nearest person
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>>78249010
Well, yeah. If there was somehow a magic barrier stopping the guns from entering, the cities would see the most improvement, as the thugs would have none.

Obviously, this isn't feasible, but it's the one place where gun control would have the best effects.

This wouldn't mean stick-armed cops like you guys think we have. Cops have guns in a lot of countries, just not England.

>>78249236
>will have you believe
No, I'm pretty sure that national parks is the one thing that everyone agrees you guys did right.
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>>78249234
I didn't say I agree with it.
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>>78249312
I never though that cops would be the ones losing their guns. After all, how would you control the guns without guns? And I know your cops have guns, pretty jelly of the duty weapons eurocops get desu
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>>78249604
those tits
that trigger discipline

how to get perfect wife like this?
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>>78249645
Move to Spain evidently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCvBTmd-TLI

No seriously join a church in a good rural area, lots of based gun girls there.
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>>78233700
>Fucking roads
>Fucking language (Rly, its fucking hard to learn the other languages besides the native one)
That's all.
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>>78250297
>Fucking language
Don't feel too bad about that one. It seems like as a trade off it's harder to learn a second language if you're not a chicano here.
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>>78251436
Whole world understand english (ex. France, ex-ussr cunts, brighton beach...). You are not to learn the another language to be understood. Or are you really gonna learn hard-as-latin russian language to spend time on 2ch(dt)hk?
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>>78246298
>2. Most gun related deaths in the world

This is a blatant lie.
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>>78252550
No it's not.
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>>78233700
actually having freedom
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>>78255622
How do we save aussie freedom?
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>>78246298
nanny state
>said the l*af
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>>78239138
I own guns to defend against niggers, you huge autismo
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>>78240352
yes we literally do though
>inb4 you post an article about a single county in Georgia while ignoring the rest of the country.
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>>78247458
>assault rifle
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>>78233700
Concrete interstates
Townhouse districts planning
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>>78258061
I like you. Thinking about the actual important stuff.
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Their Freedom of speech
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>>78258363
Even know the difference?
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>>78233732
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>>78233700
so niggers and police can fucking shoot you any time they want????
so that people buy gun for fun and blow their head by mistake???
so that people have to spend hundreds of dollars just to feel '''''''''''''safe''''''''''''' against feral niggers and other people who have gun?
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>>78258394
Is that Duke Nuke'm? Like America, not on time and already out of date too.
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>>78258417
>so niggers and police can fucking shoot you any time they want????
All the more reason to have a gun so you can defend yourself.
>so that people buy gun for fun and blow their head by mistake???
Darwin hard at work.
>so that people have to spend hundreds of dollars just to feel '''''''''''''safe''''''''''''' against feral niggers and other people who have gun?
Guns are an equaliser, and you're almost always better off armed than unarmed.
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