Trump mulls possible military invasion of Venezuela

>dumbass finally realizes he can't invade north korea
>oh shit better invade venezuela then, I need some distraction

Just idle talk.

>>78215017

Trump couldn't pull his head out of his ass, and even if he could he would be cucked by the Supreme Court, the Federal Government, the establishment and the military and anyone with actual expertize on stuff.

All he can so is memepost in twitter and try to make it pass for the real world.

Eventually venting off in the virtual world without actual implementing of jackshit in the real one will stop making him and his fans feel good and we'll see what happens at that point.

Till then, Trump is just a buffon in a tv show.

Pure fiction.

>muh america first
>muh isolationism

MAGA amirite?

>>78215197

>The Supreme Court sets military policy

Trump has the authority under the War Powers Act to attack basically anyone he wants for up to sixty days without anyone else's permission. Is how Obama bombed Libya in 2011 without the consent of the GOP-controlled Congress.

>>78215257

I guess there's a lot more to that than just one man's will and feels as he wakes up in the morning. Like having the green light from the establishment -or actually more like doing what the establishment advices you to do.

>>78215017
lol he starts talking about military action on north Korea and now thinks he can solve all problems with it. lol,

>>look at Venezuela, can we threaten our way into fixing that too?

>>78215220
What are you talking about? All this adventurism is going to make America isolationist af before too long :^)

(Also, isolationism in the American sense just means staying out of the Eastern Hemisphere. Fucking with the Western Hemisphere is 100% allowed)

>>78215017

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>>78215017
That's a terrible idea and hadn't you had a Congress of imbeciles and the direct offspring of imbeciles I would have rejected it as a pipe dream.

>>78215641
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>>78215017
Good luck with that

>>78215641
FUCKING INVADE US ALREADY

I WANT TO BE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN

>>78215079
>>78215035
This is basic Trump strategy (not saying it's effective) but you keep everyone guessing so they can't figure out what the fuck is his real intent. He does it in pretty much everyone. It's similar to the pawnstars, you tell everyone they have (are shit) and they'll get nothing (invaded in this case) so they become pliable to something they'd originally reject. I'm not saying it's effective but for some idiots and desperate people it works (I'm looking at Maduro...he needs an out that doesn't involve his neighbors invading, him getting tried and hung).

>>78215017
>HILLARY IS A WARMONGER
>TRUMP IS AN ISOLATIONIST
>TRUMP IS FOR AMERICA FIRST
Eh oh el

>>78215835
Never gonna happen. Mexico is in the way.

>>78215835
Too bad. USA is just like a girl. She lust after those who hate her while rejecting all those who desire her.

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>amerifats

>>78215843
Martyrdom is what Maduro gets out of America stepping into Venezuela. All left leaning paramilitary groups also get vindication for, if this happens, rightfully calling out right leaning governments American puppets.

>>78215197
>Trump couldn't pull his head out of his ass, and even if he could he would be cucked by the Supreme Court, the Federal Government, the establishment and the military and anyone with actual expertize on stuff.


>Trump won't win the Republican Nomination

>Trump will never be President

etc

I'm not a fan but he's so far destroyed every prediction against him. Sure he's failed but it's mainly because he makes the mistake of thinking lawmaking is like business (it's not) but he has almost carte blanche for a short period of time to invade a country.

>>78215895
I should clarify that this applies to all Latin America.

>>78215861
The entire Pacific Ocean was between you and the Philippines, yet you invaded that piece of shite. DO IT!! INVADE US!! I WILL LITERALLY JOIN YOUR ARMY

>>78215843

>he needs an out that doesn't involve his neighbors invading, him getting tried and hung

Not a chance in hell that would happen.

More like a mix of international political and economic pressure on the regime. In the end, it's up to the Venezuelans to choose their future (hopefully without a civil war happening)

>>78215947
Dude, just jump the border already while Americans are still "planning" their dumb wall, just make up a good story so you get refugee status and warm up to the idea of sucking coyote cock

>>78216149

Why go all the way to the U.S.? Mexico is a lot closer.

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>>78216168
Mexico is an awful country full of violence

>>78216149
>cross mexico to go to the US
>zetas capture me in the desert
>they actually find out I have a decent amount of money and decide to ask for a ransom to my family
>family becomes broke
>go back to honduras

>>78216219
>decent amount of money
Just book a flight to Tijuana?

>>78215919

I disagree.

Also, invading Venezuela isn't like invading some little island in the Caribean. It would be a major shitshow, lots of american coffins coming back home with a flag on it and endless urban and jungle guerrila war, a big drain on your economy, and above all things, the best damn thing that could happen to Maduro as he would then appear as the Patriot leader rallying his country and people behind to fight the imperialist agression. Which would echo all over Latina America and the world indeed in the benefit of the Maduro-tier leaders around the world.

Again, massive Trump stupidity.

>>78216219
>they actually find out I have a decent amount of money

Then you probably shouldn't tell them you have money

>>78215641

>just means staying out of the Eastern Hemisphere

Aaaaaaaand Korea is in...

>>78216240
Not worth it.

>>78216253
They would found out some other way, I wouldn't tell them. Either way, they ask for ransom for a lot of people they capture.

I wanna get drafted to free them so I can capture a qt Venezuelan guy

>>78216253
Nah man, if he gets caught by zetas they will find out, only a dumb fuck tries crossing on the Texas border tho

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/11/17/migrants-flock-to-border-town-where-cartel-hires-burreros-to-smuggle-drugs-into.html

The Sinaloa cartel will provide guides, suplies and even pay them if they make it across

First he got two scoops, now he gets two wars? That's unfair, how many wars did Obama get?

>>78215017
Maduro is already bashing the "imperialism" of the US, using Mexico as an example of a lapdog country who does nothing against Trump, in order to deflect criticism towards his government into the classic "muh America is evil" communist meme.

But what is sad about all of this is that Trump is actually giving Maduro more fuel for this narrative, which aims ultimately at strengthening his grip over Venezuela even further. I think (and hope) that to no effect, given how fucking bad Maduro has been.

But man, Trump sure is trying to paint Maduro and Latin America as some sort of martyrs subjugated by the US.

>>78216386
At least five
http://theweek.com/articles/655826/why-wont-anyone-admit-that-america-fighting-5-wars

>>78216275

The Canadian Peninsula

>>78216219
>I have a decent amount of money
Get a visa, fly to the US, and overstay. That is how most of the illegals get in anyway.

Venezuelans should be as rich as gulf arabs. They both have similar resources. Thanks to gommies they dont even have toilet paper or milk or meat. Maduro is even worse than chaves. he was bus driver or someshit. US should destroy regime

>>78215017
I approve of this. I think we as the #1 country in this place should invade it but I think people are too "war isn't for us". This country isn't serious.

>>78216536
Imagine having a refugee crisis, Syria style, in South America. Would be interesting to say the least desu.

>>78216503
They never diversify their industry
They make nothing but oil, and as we all know that isnt the black gold it used to be

>>78215017
Wew lad, does he think his presidency is a Civ marathon game?

>>78216020
>Not a chance in hell that would happen.
>More like a mix of international political and economic pressure on the regime. In the end, it's up to the Venezuelans to choose their future (hopefully without a civil war happening)

I agree but if it's believed he can he overthrown I doubt he'd have any friends. Maduro/Chavez allowed communist rebels from Columbia to hide within Venezuela's borders and claimed a majority of Ghana. You're telling me that you don't think his neighboring governments want him replaced?

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>>78216168
>>78216149
>>78215947
I'm going to throw this out there but foreign national can join our army and receive the same pay as Americans for their rank. They won't be citizens but they will live in the u.s. or on foreign u.s. bases and get American pay....

>>78216758
Actually, while you don't need US citizenship to join the US armed forces they do require you hold legal residence aka a green card. They used to make exceptions but they no longer do that.

Anyone with a green card is already elligible to become a US national on just going through something like a decade's worth of paperwork so there's no real advantage there, joining the marines isn't going to speed that up.

And on just moral grounds, who the fuck is that desperate to serve a country that will deport you the second you step off the base for shore leave or whatever.

>>78216966
>who the fuck is that desperate to serve a country that will deport you the second you step off the base for shore leave or whatever
Why are you guys so weird about our immigration policy? It is 100% justifiable to deport an illegal resident, regardless of the circumstances. If you're not a citizen or legal resident, then we don't owe you a fucking thing within our borders.
I don't understand why Mexico doesn't feel the same way about illegals. They are, by definition, criminals.

>>78216246
>Also, invading Venezuela isn't like invading some little island in the Caribean. It would be a major shitshow, lots of american coffins coming back home with a flag on it and endless urban and jungle guerrila war, a big drain on your economy, and above all things, the best damn thing that could happen to Maduro as he would then appear as the Patriot leader rallying his country and people behind to fight the imperialist agression.

At this point, I think most of the population would just welcome us as liberators. At least the stores would have toilet paper again.

Socialism, kids. Never even once.

>>78217187
>Why are you guys so weird about our immigration policy?

They need the US as a place to unload their criminals and other unwanted scum.

>>78217245
>At least the stores would have toilet paper again.
No need for TP if you're not pooping, and you're not pooping if you can't eat. Socialism works!

>>78216410
>implying we're not america's bitch
lol

PLEASE invade Venezuela, PLEASE

>>78217245
>At this point, I think most of the population would just welcome us as liberators.
lmao

>>78217499
Americans will NEVER stop thinking this will happen, no matter how many times it doesn't happen.

>>78217428
In what way did my post imply otherwise?
But this "yes America, please spit on me because muh NAFTA" is fairly recent. As recent as NAFTA itself, with centuries of Anti-Americanism behind our history.

>>78215017
Venezuela also has incredibly high oil reserves so maybe that's why Trump wants to 'intervene'

>>78217428
https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/77926322/

It was explained in this thread why there's no chance of a Castro or Chavez happening in Mexico.

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>>78217499
Remove the proxy, Pytor.

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>>78215017
As a Venezuelan who had to flee the country, I welcome this notion. Give em hell Trump.

>>78217874
How did you escape?

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>>78217901
I flew in and was granted asylum.

>>78217928
Flew into the US? How does it work?

Do you just get here and say you're fleeing a hostile country?

>>78216246
What is Maduro like?

>>78217586
or maybe because theres people getting killed there daily basis over the tyrannical regime and the said regime actively opposes democratic process. if usa, the posterboy country of liberty and freedom, lets things like those happen in such close proximity it makes them look weak.

>>78217874
>As a Venezuelan who had to flee the country
yeah sure
get fucked you traitor piece of shit

>>78215017
stay out of this you fat fucks!!! not your battle and not your oil!!

>>78217928
Are you on the telegram group?

>tfw right wing
>tfw still dont approve of trump invading venezuela

sorry folks maduro did nothing wrong

>>78217951
Yeah flew into the U.S. and had to go through a lengthy process with immigration that background checks and proving ones persecution. While they processed all my documents I was granted stay and once that was done and validated I was given residence.

>>78218122
kys

>>78215017
I don't know who is more retarded maduro or trump

>>78218146
lol haha
le drink bleach senpai amirite?
epic memes

>>78218123
*involved.

>>78218119
Nah, not aware of what that is.

>>78218055
?????
What the fuck are you on about. I'd rather carry on with my life and pursue life goals instead of getting shot by some random commie nigger in the street. The protests won't overthrow the government. People echo civil war but that's never going to happen considering both the military and police are siding with Maduro and they're the only side with guns. The only way for Venezuela to be free is through military intervention.

>>78217973
They had problem propping up dictatorships in Latin America before

>>78216246
Fyi you think any one besides maduro's goons will fight for him

>>78218447
why do Americans always think their opponents will simply roll over for them? is it bravado or an actual belief that they can invade a country and people will line the streets with american flags welcoming them?

>>78218469
The world wants to be American, we will deliver, and give the people of the world what they want.

>>78218506
you guys haven't even finished with Afghanistan yet. almost 16 years later.

>>78218469
Only like ten percent of the population support the guy. The majority of the population has been out in the streets for months asking for his resignation. This isn't another Iraq/Afghanistan.

>>78218516
The countries completely turned to rubble. It's either you live and accept your American overlords or you don't live at all, sorry sweetie.

>>78218516
>Muslims get riled up and travel to isis, Afghanistan, Israel to blow themselves up and kill fellow Muslims.

Im not seeing an issue here.

>>78218532
you are mistaking Maduro's popularity with support for an invasion. the two are not similar. Just because the people do not like their leader and want a change, does not mean they will support a foreign government putting boots in the ground on their sovereign country to oust him. in fact this might galvanize more people into maduro's camp and split the country into civil war.

>>78218571
but america are the good guys

>>78218563
how does that even make sense? you turn the country into rubble and more people support the forces that you are fighting. further entrenching the state into constant warfare while your own forces are dying and hemorrhaging money.

>>78218569
it's costing you money and american lives.

>>78218571
True it might, I think it'll play more like the Panama invasion and be quick. I say that because I think the people realize they've exhausted all their ways to oust the guy and there's no other way but to have the U.S. intervene.

>>78218598
>how does that even make sense? you turn the country into rubble and more people support the forces that you are fighting. further entrenching the state into constant warfare while your own forces are dying and hemorrhaging money.
It's giving people a choice between the cross and the bullet. Afghanistan and it's anal raping was a world wide example to other powers that might think about rejecting their American masters. Venezuela should learn from that example and open their gates wide open.

>>78218506
>The world wants to be American, we will deliver
Being this much of an illiterate lower class fatass

>>78218662
i think you are underestimating the anti-imperialist mentality of Venezuela. These people elected Hugo Chavez, it's a socialist hotbed with anti-capitalist tendencies. having America, the poster child for capitalism, put boots on the ground will literally split the country into civil war and destabilize the region. this will also reinforce the image of America as an imperialist in Latin america. I don't think we can conflate Maduro's popularity with support for American intervention.

>>78218692
right and which countries fell in line after Afghanistan? North Korea? Iran? Russia? China? nobody did mate, they are all actually laughing at America for getting themselves in such a quagmire with no escape.

>>78218725
"These people" are a small minority. Most of the chavistas have dissociated themselves with the Maduro regime (Look at the key member like Luisa Ortega).

>>78218715
:^)
Why is your country named after food btw?

>>78217187
Mexico actually has harsher immigration policies than the US, and they actually use strict quotas to maintain their 'demographic' (read: racial) makeup.

That being said, all the Mexican illegals are slowly but surely leaving the US anyway, and Trump is only speeding this up. North American natural gas and oil is making manufacturing profitable in Mexico so there's actually a ton of incentive to go back instead of staying in the US and working dead-end agricultural jobs.

>>78218778
Again, you are conflating Maduro's unpopularity with support for foreign intervention.

i don't like my leader, that doesn't mean i will support a foreign government coming in to remove him.

>>78218755
>North Korea?
They're being propped up by China.
>Iran
Failed state that's going to collapse in a civil war eventually doesn't propose a threat to anybody but themselves.
>Russia
America singehandedly jewed the Soviet Union into collapsing. What do you think?
>China
I'll give you that.

>>78218855
Yet none of those countries have bent the knee to the USA based on its actions of Afghanistan, read the context of the conversation.


>>It's giving people a choice between the cross and the bullet. Afghanistan and it's anal raping was a world wide example to other powers that might think about rejecting their American masters.

I listed 4 countries that continue to defy America despite Afghanistan being used as an 'example'.

>>78218900
>I listed 4 countries that continue to defy America despite Afghanistan being used as an 'example'.
And how many of them remain successful?

>>78218939
define successful? are they functioning nations? yes. are they as wealthy as america? no.

but the fact that they exist and the citizens live within their borders, obey the laws, have their own culture. they have succeeded in being a nation. just because they aren't like you, doesn't mean they aren't successful.

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>>78219092

Settle down Maduro. Rest assured, I'll personally be the one kicking down your door and eliminating you.

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>>78219119

>>78218447
>maduro's goons
The entire army and police forces of Venezuela?

>>78219160
american flag really looks like a mattress

>>78216419
it seems to me like the main difference between republicans and democrats is just how they present things, but what actually happens is not up to them to decide anyway

>>78219119

Hey man, chill. I'll handle this,

>>78219160

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>78219160
qual es la vaina pues hijueputa. andas salao porque maduro no te ha dado tu clap? vas morir por enchufado malparido. venezuela es una verguenza al igual que la FANB

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Forward Defense is the most autistic defense policy ever, I'm sick of the US trying to play global firefighter butting its nose everywhere to prevent future conflicts when in reality conflicts are being created by those attempts to stop other ones. And when you say this to a patriotic fucker here he'll tell you all those countries hate us because we're just so awesome. WW3 come soon I want off this ride.

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>>78219241
disgusting and embarrassing. go to little havana and have some ropa vieja and a coke, coward
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>>78219310
Cobarde vas a ser tu cuando te tumbe la puerta maldito. Te queda poco.

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>>78219398
you had to flee the country because you're a coward and the government made you leave, and you're talking about coming here and kicking down doors? you're too soft, that's why you left. you're going to hurt your foot, sweety. go somewhere else

>>78217874
Cuck

>>78219492
Like I had a choice as a kid fuckface. I'll be heading for basic soon and if I ever get sent out to Venezuela, I'll be sure to waste every cuban/commie fuck that crosses my path including yourself. Get off that VPN you Cuban G2 faggot.

>>78219505
>cuck
t. Germany lmao.

>>78219660
KEK

>>78216219
Dude, it isn't that hard. You don't even need a coyote if you have basic /out/ skills. There isn't even a wall along most of the border, just a little boundary you can step over. Fuck, look between the santa Teresa crossing and Puerto Palomas. You could literally just walk to fucking Columbus in new mexico. There is one border patrol stop if you go north, but if you go east towards El paso there is nothing.

Do it, venezuelans are cowards... Soldiers kill unarmed civilians, and the oposition (like 80% of Vzla) is too scared to take a fucking rifle and go outside, like some commies did here in the 70's and in 1989.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R5ocn5B6Fzo

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>>78219660
not a cuban, not a commie, not a socialist, not a parasite. just not a coward who was made leave the country by the government and went to be a parasite of the us. i don't need to live off other people's effort. you're probably a descendant of parasites who came from europe in ww2, and now you went to the us to be a parasite like your grandparents. what's even worse, you're joining the an army of another country. i guess that's your consolation prize for not being able to do anything for your own country. you're a parasite in all respects

and saying that someone from the G2 would come here to post what i'm posting... you're really, truly retarded. it makes sense that you'd join the army. you're the kind of retard that would do so, and it suits you because that way you can be a parasite of the us even more

>>78219875
>not a cuban, not a commie, not a socialist, not a parasite
>He says this while posting dead U.S. soldiers.
You're not fooling anyone.

>you're joining the an army of another country. i guess that's your consolation prize for not being able to do anything for your own country.

Yeah because joining FANB to take orders from a dictator to repress my own people sounds like a great idea. Go fuck yourself. Francisco de Miranda, the man who laid the foundation for Venezuela's independence fought in several different armies and wars for their freedoms. Don't come at me with that bullshit. I'll do the same for the U.S. especially if it involves liberating Venezuela.

>and saying that someone from the G2 would come here to post what i'm posting... you're really, truly retarded.

You sound text-book G2 coming here with your anti-US rhetoric. You're the true parasite, you'll bend over for Maduro as long as he feeds you CLAP handouts.

>>78220175
you could have joined caguaripano's group if you wanted to do any of that. they've been around since 2014. but you didn't because if like living off other people's effort. that's why you're joining the army

i'm posting dead us soldiers because i'm a nationalist and i don't want americans coming here, nor cubans, nor anyone else, and i don't like imperialists. but i know you're a retard (you're joining an army, you need other people to tell you what to do), so i'm not surprised that you think there's only one group of people that would not like american imperialism. but keep on thinking that everyone that doesn't like us imperialism is a commie or a socialist. i know you won't ever educate yourself and can't have deeper thoughts than that

keep comparing yourself with miranda. you surely ran away to the richest country of the world because you're going to be a folk hero someday, not because you're a parasite and a coward

>>78220384
Sure thing bud. Keep living with that delusion that the military is going to turn around and bring back democracy or some random rebel group is going to topple the government. Maduro's regime has cemented itself and will last for years unless the U.S. intervenes. See you in a couple of months when you start posting again how wrong you were.

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One thing Obama failed horribly with was not flexing US military power. Trump is making up for it, even if he's being a bit juvenile about it, and it goes against his "America first" rhetorics. If it was just NK and their globalist nukes, it'd be fine.

Venezuela has been a shit show for a while, but I guess it's not media sexy enough to warrant 24/7 reporting. The aristocracy in power there could have slept easy during the Obama administration, but with Trump they're probably sweating. It's not a matter of if he's gonna do it or not, but just that he's got the audacity to even suggest it.

Another thing to consider is that war time leaders usually get re-elected, so it might be a political move (or a stumble [or a 4d checkmate]).

desu it all boils down to NK globalist nukes.

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>>78215017
Go for it. Bolan will take qare of Venezuelan qt refugees.

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Guys...our adventurism has never ended well both for us and the country we're invading. What makes anyone think this time will be different

It seems my fellow Americans have the memory of a goldfish.

>>78221237
>I guess it's not media sexy enough to warrant 24/7 reporting

It's more of a case of media praising Chavez at first and generally not pulling attention towards failures of the left wing experiments.

>>78221329
The key is to occupy the country and take control of its politics. Avoid democracy like the plague.

If only Chiquita Brands International had banana plantaitions in venezuela...