Åland hate thread let's hate åland ITT

>>78189430
Fuck Åland.
Literally the Jews of Finland

taffel sips are SHIT

VITTU KUN VIHAAN AHVENANMAATA
TÄYNNÄ HOMOJA

>>78189430
well give it back then

FUCK FUCK SHIT FUCK
FUCK AHVENANMAA, ISLAND JEWS
GO TO ARMY :--D
GO TO W O R K :---DDD
SPEAK FINNISH!!!!!!!

>>78189480
*gives it back*

there u go

>>78189482
SOMEBODY STOP THIS GENOCIDAL MANIAC

>>78189480
Gib Meänmaa, hurri

>>78189480
This. We'll take good care of them.

>>78189482
PAY YLE TAX YOU FAGGOTS

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PUNCH A SW*DE

>>78189515
ty :)

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>>78189576
BIN THE FINN

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Sw*dish nazis are moving to *land

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEWbO6-iT1M

>>78189636
Lmao I watched this. He admits to having like 80 IQ.

You have to tell me what it is first

>>78189672
It's a "finnish" island where everyone is Swedish.

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BIN THE PAKKORUOTSI

ÅLAND DOESNT BELONG TO FINLAND

#ÅLANDAWAY2018

As a protected minority Swedes in finland get to do as they please

>>78189480
>back

>>78189781
SWEDISH PRIVILEGES
SWEDES AND SWEDISH SPEAKING """"FINNS"""" ARE RACIST AND OPPRESSIVE TOWARDS US REAL FINNS

Best nordic flag together with Norway and Iceland

>>78189794
Yes
it used to be a part of sweden

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>>78189794
Yes?

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>>78189542
>>78189542
>>78189542
>>78189542
>>78189542

>>78189827
>>78189842
>back
Not like we ever took it from you, too bad you lost half of your realm

>>78189430
Those shitty rocks should be sold to the Russians, the Sw*de must not get an inch of his old land back.

>>78189977
i wish we invaded you during ww2

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>referendum was held in 1919 and now 9,900 of the 10,000 voters wanted to join Sw*den.[6] A year later, Great Britain took the case to the newly founded League of Nations. In June 1921, Åland was declared as a demilitarised and autonomous territory of Finland

FUCK BRITS

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>>78189977
>t.

>>78189430
Didn't Aland vote against joining Sweden because they would lose their special snowflake rights doing so?

>>78189998
but you didn't you cucks

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>>78190000

>>78190006
IIRC yes
If they joined sweden, they would just be regular swedes.

>its another episode of vikangz vs wewuzians

>>78189672
It's an island in the Baltic Sea with a majority Swedish population that was awarded to Finland after WW1.

>>78189998
Instead you cowered in fear like the cucks you are.

>>78190000
It shouldn't have been given to Swedes, so Brits were right in this instance.

>>78189998

There would have been German lebensborn breeding camps in your soil within days of this invasion attempt

>>78189430
>looks at a detailed map of the Baltic
WHAT THE FUCK how many ridiculously small islands are there? How the fuck can a boat even navigate from Stockholm to Turku without getting stranded every minute
Why is this madness allowed

>>78190125
Yes, they should have been all killed and repopulate the island with Karelians.

>>78190160
you weren't allied with them

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>>78190125
>>78190195

GAS THE SWEDES
RACE WAR NOW

>>78190319
dds

>>78190220

They wouldn't have let you fuck up the siege of Leningrad.

>>78190189
their captains can actually sail Mario

>>78190367
we would invade in late 1939/early 40s dumbass

>>78190437

Fuck off you mentally ill Albanian refugee. Don't ever talk to me again.

>>78190437
kek. our military was absolute horseshit, and its been like that since poltava. we wouldve probably get invaded by either the soviet union or nazi germany before that would happen.

>>78190037

You mean instead we single-handedly saved Finland from the Soviets?

>>78190494
uhhh

>>78190494
You mean single-handedly almost fucked us over by not letting allied troops to come to our aid and instead sent us shitty untrained volunteers?

>>78189430
åland should be part of Belgium

who pissed on iceland's flag lol

>>78189998
Aahahahahaha hahahahah holy shit

God I hate åland for some reason

>>78191017
The allies only offered aid because they wanted our iron, they didn't give a shit about you.

>>78191017
>Hitler had by December declared to the Swedish government that Franco-British troops on Swedish soil would immediately provoke a German invasion.
We only fucked you over so we would not get fucked over ourselves.

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>>78192186
>>78193017
>we dindu nuffin
Like a clockwork

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>>78193132

>>78193154

>>78190494


Or do they actually teach that you'd meaningfull impact in our victory over soviets

>>78193474
Depends on what you count as meaningful and if you count the finland-swedes impact. While the volunteers impact was not much, we did send you a huge amount of supplies and equipment.

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>>78191017
>letting allied troops to come to our aid
>finns actually believe this

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>>78194161
So did other countries. Hilarious part is that a lot of the ammo and arty shells were wrong caliber and never used, because your equipment was so outdated.

I'm curious, what do you learn about the winter war at school? Besides the int shitposting, I've talked to couple of swedes who actually believed your country was a major asset against the soviets

what's an aland and why are you so agitated about it

>>78194369
Autonomous Swedish speaking meme territory of Finland.

It ended to Finland thanks to the eternal Anglo, even though 95% of them voted to join Sweden instead.

>>78194404
is it in any way profitable

>>78194328
>ammo and arty shells were wrong caliber
We gave you rifles, field guns and AA to use them with. Oh, and 1/3 of our air force. All while juggling diplomatic relationships with Germany that at the time were very keen on us not helping you (ribbentrop-molotov pact).

Do you not learn anything at all about what we did for you? Is it just a "le evul swedun"-circle jerk?

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>>78194422
>is it in any way profitable

>>78194422
on the contrary, it's degreed by law that they shall never pay more taxes than the average Finnish county.

and they shill for immigrants (despite not taking any themselves) and affirmative action for Swedish speakers

>>78194422
its demilitarized and 100% swedish speaking. mainland finns arent even allowed to buy property there it basically just exists to receive government aid and house 30k swedes.

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>>78194511
why the fuck would you want it then

>>78194328
>So did other countries.
Not as much, we gave you a third of our fighter planes ffs.
>what do you learn about the winter war at school?
We learn that we contributed alot, it is not specified how much it mattered. The swedish school system is cucked af anyway.
>major asset against the soviets
Depends on what you consider to be major. We didn't really change the course of the war if thats what you mean.

>>78194540
Because giving away clay is apparently impossible. They also enjoy their unique snowflake status these days.

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>>78194453
I didn't deny your involvement or help, just that first post i replied to

>Is it just a "le evul swedun"-circle jerk?
Maybe if you majority of you weren't egoistic and arrogant cunts, you'd see less shit talk from us

whatever happened to that Åland poster?

>>78194691
>majority of you weren't egoistic and arrogant cunts
I don't like this anymore than you do.

>>78194691
Maybe if you could detach yourself from your pride for a second when discussing the topic, it wouldn't always end up in you guys blaming us and sperging out.

We had our own problems and our own priorities. I don't understand why Finns think that we're somehow obliged to fight and die for them. Especially not when it was far from certain that you'd be able to even fend off the Soviets. Say that you lost and we were involved, then we'd end up in war with the Soviets. That's one hell of a bet.

>>78194820
We had a better natural border so we would probably have been fine but that doesn't mean we were obliged to do it and it would have made us really fucking vulnerable for the krauts and anglos.

>>78194511
>100% swedish speaking
I think closer to 80%. Luckily it's rising again now because of the international swedish initiative to strengthen and further the understanding and application of the swedish language.

>>78195167
Well Swedish language and culture must be preserved somewhere. Åland makes a good reservation.

>>78194820
I said I don't disclaim your part in that war. My point was, for you to stop thinking of being our saviour. That's just disrespectful

>>78194941
If Russia could push beyond the Torne river in 1808 imagine what they could've done in 1939. Our army was downtrodden shit at the time due to the neutrality policy mixed with a spoonful of naïvety. Had the soviets wanted to they could've taken Stockholm and although they might not have been able to incorporate all of Sweden, they could've taken not-so-unimportant parts like Gotland which would've been disastrous.

And of course, there's the whole diplomatic mess we found ourselves in at the time. I'm not unaware of it and it is a variable in my assessment that we probably picked the best option available to us at the time. Germany would've fucked us has we turned against the Soviets and then potentially France and the UK would've tried to take our mines before they fell in the hands of the Germans.

>>78195167
88.67% to be precise.

>>78195207
>My point was, for you to stop thinking of being our saviour.
Literally no one thinks that. Stop being paranoid.

>>78195195
Oh no, you misunderstand. The Swedish speaking population is growing Everywhere. In Sweden, Åland, and Finland. The Finlandswedes in particular have made great steps forward in non-profit programs that have encouraged people to learn and study the Swedish language, and to allow people to use it as their foremost or only language at an ever increasing number.

>>78195241
Thanks for the clarification. Since that's still closer to 80% than 100%, I was right.

>>78195308
yeah nah, swedish language and swedes too are gonna die out in few decades time

>>78195308
Finnish is the language of Finland and we shouldn't be trying to push ours on them.

>>78195308
>In Sweden
Thats a lie, the swedish language is slowly being anglofied here.

>>78194820
>I don't understand why Finns think that we're somehow obliged to fight and die for them.
because if finland falls then have fun with your new soviet neighbor. åland would had been a prime soviet military base if you understand where im going with this.

>>78195308
lol swedish is dying here its dropping in a steady -0.1% a year. just few more decades and adios.

>>78195360
Swedish has been spoken in Finland longer than in Scania and half of Norrland. We shouldn't push it on the finns but we should make sure that the Finlandswedes survives.

>>78195246
So why the fuck did you write multiple posts instead of just saying this in the first place??

>>78195379
That's not true. While the swedish language has been influenced to a certain degree by english during the last half a century, as it was by other dominant languages of Europe before that, the Swedish language is spoken by more people today than ever before. More people learn and communicate in Swedish both within Sweden and outside of it than at any point in history. Swedish isn't influenced by english more than any other language.

>>78195458
but forest finns needed to go right? no need for them to preserve their language?

>>78189672
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85land_Islands

>>78195512
They would have disappeared by now anyway, language enclaves are not sustainable.

>>78195390
>new soviet neighbor
What do you mean by new? The Russians had been there for a hundred years already. Not sure how you missed that part.

The only part we really do care about (geopolitically speaking) is, suitingly enough, Åland due to its proximity to Stockholm. We even had plans during the cold war to invade the island should you be invaded by the Soviets. Nowadays similar plans exist in cooperation with your armed forces. Under no circumstances can we allow Åland to fall into the hands of an adversary and that is why this topic will always be contentious.

>>78195500
>as it was by other dominant languages of Europe before that
I know anglocucks often bring up this argument but the difference is HUGE in how much and how fast english has influenced our language.

Only area in Finland where Finnish isn't official language.

>>78195360
No. Finnish and Swedish are both equally recognized as the languages of the Republic of Finland. The relationship that Finland has with Sweden is in no way relevant to the fact that in Finland there have been portions of the population of finnish citizens who lived speaking swedish as their language for centuries. To seek to exclude one of the languages of Finland from the modern finnish society would be an act of gross nationalistically-fueled discrimination. It would be like people from the Netherlands saying "English is the language of South Africa and we shouldn't be trying to push ours on them": completely ridiculous.

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>>78195500
>"Swedish isn't influenced by english more than any other language."
>we're having this discussion in English

>>78195748

Man in picture related doesn't speak English though

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>>78195748
Vi använder engelska så finnarna och övriga kan förstå. Jag håller personligen inte med honom men detta är ett ickeargument.

>>78195725
and there has been finns on ur northern territories for centuries and yet you dont have to sit through finnish courses in school for 6 years. instead they have slowly assimilated like a fringe groups within nations should. what a terrible argument

>>78195654
Look, I think you're right. English has had a much greater influence on our language than others have had in the past. And this time around it's different because it's coming from everyone being fluent in both languages, rather than from people who only spoke one language leaving their mark in how we spoke here. Swedish is going through a major shift at the moment. Even though people obviously won't just start speaking english instead, they are using plenty of the structure used in the anglosphere to inform how they speak.

It's a big problem, and one that can be solved through politics. Many groups exist who want to protect the swedish language by limiting the effects anglofication can have on it. Get involved!

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>>78195783
Barely.

>>78195786
So you're saying that everyone being taught English from an early age to a level of proficiency that is not too far from that of native speakers have no impact on our language at all?

>>78195875
Yeah, because Sweden and Finland are completely different countries. Do you really want your country to work in such a way that they only respect minorities rights to the same way that they do in other countries? Don't you like knowing that Finland treats it's minorities more respectfully than ANY of it's neighbours?

>>78195986
I am saying it is not wrong to speak english with each other if you want foreigners to understand. Of course our english proficiency have affected our language which is very unfortunate to say the least.

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>>78195986
Jag tycker det är överdrivet hur grymmt bra svenskar ska vara på att tala engelska. Man skulle kunna tro att det kommer från det faktum att ungdomar har en så stor påverkan i media nuförtiden. De som nyligen blivit färdiga med sin engelskautbildning kanske använder sig av engleska termer och sånt ganska ofta. Men när de sedan når medelåldern så kommer förmodligen deras svensktalandeförmågor att vara på runt samma nivå som de äldre som lever nu har.

>>78195875
Meh. Both finnish and the other northern minority languages in Sweden were never given the status that would let them grow. Even if assimilation was to be avoided, they weren't meant to become the majority languages in the areas where they are spoken. That's the kind of situation that breeds separatist movements.

>>78189827
It's an island and therefore belongs to the island empire Iceland.

>>78196000
It's = short for 'It is'
its = third person singular possessive

>>78196151
Why is it "very unfortunate"? The world is what it is and speaking English confers a huge benefit, what's there to be sad about that? Stop being so melodramatic.

>>78196212
Förväxla inte individers (framförallt tonåringars) förmåga att överskatta deras förmågor med befolkningen som helhets RELATIVA språkkunskaper. Vi är bättre på Engelska i förhållande till nästan alla andra länder vars förstaspråk inte är Engelska. Har väldigt svårt att se hur generationen som är under 30-35 på något vänster skulle bli sämre eller lika dåliga på Engelska som den nuvarande medelålderspopulationen är. Visst tappar man en del när man inte använder Engelskan men saken är den att Engelska finns överallt omkring oss och det fenomenet lär knappast minska.

>>78196426
do you learn danish in schools?
or some other nordic language?

>>78196493
It's useful to speak english for certain Swedish people. It's harmful to the preservation and growth of swedish culture. The more our language changes the harder it will become to understand the swedish language of the past. The anglosphere's domination of swedish cultural imports can, have and will make great changes on the Swedish perspective of the world, our history and our culture. Changes that it can be hard for the past to survive, static as it is.

>>78196503
Danish, but if you have a parent that is norwegian or swedish you can learn either one of those languages instead.
That could depend on the school though

>>78196493
>Why is it "very unfortunate"? The world is what it is and speaking English confers a huge benefit, what's there to be sad about that? Stop being so melodramatic.
What is unfortunate about the death of your culture and nation? Döda dig själv din äckliga hanrej

>>78196690
>It's harmful to the preservation and growth of swedish culture
Why? Just stating it over and over doesn't make it any more true and it sure as fuck isn't convincing anyone that doesn't already believe it.

Every single generation moans about how the change in their particular time is going to ruin whatever it is they're talking about, but it is very rarely the case. Things you take for granted nowadays no doubt someone in the past proclaimed to be the end of our culture and language. And yet here we are.

So show how it's actually negatively affecting our culture and language. Loaning in new words to describe things in IT is very much doubt is going to affect our ability to interpret our past, so please be aware that just pure numbers doesn't prove anything.

>>78196744
Why danish? Norweigian would be better.

>>78197027
Because Danes are imperialists, and wanted to impose their language on the people who lived on its island provinces.

>>78196939
What did I say about being melodramatic? Present actual facts that what you're saying is true or go back to whatever dark recess whence you came.

>>78196982
The globalization of today cannot be compared to anything in the past.

>>78197074
Kan du inte dra egna slutsatser? Antalet engelska ord som används dagligen har minskt sagt ökat över bara de senaste decennierna och ingenting pekar på att det kommer ändras.

>>78197027
basically what >>78197067 said
Danes are the devils who walk amongst us

>>78196982
I don't think the change will be seen as bad to the people of the future. I just think their culture will be less rich than ours. That they will have a difficult time reading Swedish literature from more than a hundred years ago, that they will have a harder time understanding the Swedish spoken by people with different dialects, or in other Scandinavian languages.

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>>78195308
>The Swedish speaking population is growing Everywhere. In Sweden, Åland, and Finland.

Except it isn't. Besides many Fenno-swedes speak Swedish in their local dialect, which I doubt you could fully understand.

>>78197088
OK. Let's say that, for the sake of the argument, I accept that premise, what then? How does that prove anything of what you're saying? Influence in and of itself is neither good nor bad.

hello guys a germanic friend from the west here are the memes the scandinavian women being pretty true? personally I thought our girls were better but I went to denmark and the couple of girls i saw there were more beautiful then any dutch/german girl I had ever seen

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They could just speak both Swedish and Finnish like other finlandssvenskar and no one would have a problem.

>>78197211
It is bad if you value your nation and culture which any decent person would.

>>78197203
Of course *I* couldn't. Finlandswedes have a very distinct dialect, which I find almost completely indecipherable. That doesn't mean I am any less happy about them being able to speak a language that isn't the dominant one in their country, and avoiding simply being assimilated.

>>78196744
I've heard that spoken Icelandic is much more similar to Danish and modern Nordic languages than the written variant. Is there any truth to this? Are you all larping as Vikings?

>>78197242
only danish girls, swedes and norwegians are pigs

>>78197170
Aha, så det är avsnitt av "drar du inte samma slutsatser som mig så är du bokstavligen dum i huvudet"? Sådana får mig verkligen att vilja fortsätta diskutera med personen, men vi försöker ändå.

Som jag noterade ovan, en absolut ökning av brukande av Engelska lånord betyder inte nödvändigtvis något alls då mycket av det som lånas in är jargon inom nischade branscher. Hur stor påverkar tror du Engelska lånord inom t.ex. IT-branschen har på framtida generationers förmåga att läsa Strindberg? Det är inte så enkelt att lånord = ersatt svenskt ord.

>>78197301
That's a statement, not an argument. Try again my friend.

>>78197203
Österbottniska is a little bit harder but the other dialects is basically the same as scanian if you ask me(99% understandable but clearly distinct).

>>78197455
Om användningen av engelska ord hela tiden ökar så är det ganska självklart att användningen av svenska ord minskar även om de flesta ord inte blir direkt ersatta.

>Swedes arguing about Swedish language in Finland

Why the fuck do you care? Swedish speaking Finns aren't Swedes. Not even when it comes to their genetics. Their issues aren't your issues. Mind your own business

>>78197398
how would you know

>>78197307
I agree, but monolingual Fenno-swedes are pretty much useless. They always cry about how Finns should learn Swedish, but they themselves are too lazy to learn Finnish. Basically they segregate themselves from the Finnish speaking majority and expect special treatment. Add their delusions of "bättre folk" to that and you might understand why many Finns hate Fenno-swedes.

>>78197910
because I've been to all of those countries and have spent summers in Norway

>>78198089
Okay thanks mate, was just checking
Danish girls are the most beautiful on earth then?

>>78197515
That's true. Southern Fenno-swedes have a more generic accent and fewer dialects.

>>78198055
They are an anachronism and should be deported to Sweden, or ethnically cleansed from Finland. If there are any in your vicinity, they should be harassed or attacked.

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If they didn't have ridiculous priviledges it'd be fine. They beat any social class just by being born in that rotten little island,

>no conscription.

>Exceeded income from the island is not taken into account when taxing it so it's effectively a tax haven

>You can't move there unless you have finnish citizenship and fluency in swedish (sorry no luck for you swedes in this either)

>The people WON'T ever utter a word of finnish even if they knew it and if you speak english they look you like you're an alien.

Lovely place if you can ever get there, lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laebMk_wdMU

>>78198203
at least in Copenhagen, I've only been there and around Zealand, so I can't speak for stumpjumpers on the mainland. But they're much better looking women than you'd see in Oslo or Stockholm

Norwegians are all lumpy, very few with nice figures. Swedes are similar and have ugly faces

>>78194328
What I was taught was that the whole thing was more or less a stunt the government made to make sure that the "Finlands sak är vår sak"-movement stoped gaining traction. I.e send "warmongers" to war so they can't pressure Sweden into the war from home, while at the same time convincing the general population that we did all we could. It might have been just the view of my teacher though as it wasn't taken from a textbook.

>>78198351
Why would somebody from Singapore get this emotional because of Fennoswedes?

No one should be killed or deported. Seek help

>>78198492
Yeah I went to copenhagen too, and oslo too and I agree

Swedes also hate åland, let's sink it in the ocean

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>>78198546
This, other swedes need to understand that general relatiosn between our governments weren't really hot during 1918-1950 only after that we started co-operating more. Before that the swedish government almost had a closed doors diplomacy to Finland due to Åland crisis.

If we speak about genuine help it became a reality when especially in continuation war sweden accepted refugee children to their homes (The government tried to keep hold of the children by not letting them back to Finland
after the war btw) Still won't undermine the willingness and warm hearts the swedish people had.

The actual aid that mattered came from generally axis countries in ww2 and everything else is more or less bombous poopoo to think your or his country made a difference by sending "third of our airforce!!!" We got more from USA during that time and they only sent a fraction of a % of their airforce.

>>78197348
It's a lot easier for an icelander to understand the scandi languages when written, especially danish. Faroese is probably the easiest to understand though since it's the closest living language to us. Just a shame that they sound like an icelander who has had a stroke.

I can get the context when listening to norwegian and swedish, but I don't even bother trying to understand spoken danish :^)

Are the Finnish and Swedish people like this irl, or is this just 4chan?

>>78197611
Nej det är inte alls självklart, anon. Du antar för mycket och det gör dig blind.

>>78199008
Just 4chan. I live in an area with lots of Swedish speakers and we get along very well. I'm currently working at customer service and when I speak Finnish to them they speak Finnish to me and apologize.

>>78199008
I think it's mostly because a lot of Swedes feel a sort of guilt about ww2, especially younger people and therefor are easily convinced of exaggerations regarding our place in the war.

I've allways found that guilt a bit strange though since joining the war on either side would have been a stab in the back against either you or Norway plus the fact that we could realistically not have waged war against Germany after they invaded Norway for more than a few days/weeks.

>>78199008
It's mostly here.

>>78191305
good post

>>78199682
>especially younger people and therefor are easily convinced of exaggerations regarding our place in the war.

this is common?

>>78198351
Singapore gets it!

where the fuck is åland, anyways?

surely someone from there will quit lurking and post ITT

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Why does it look Americanish ?

Looks comfy. Is it cool to visit ?I'm kinda of hispter I like to visit unknown places.

>>78200098
that's what most of Scandinavia looks like outside of cities and very rural areas

>>78200055
I think åland doesn't have a distinct flag on 4chan anymore, they post under finnish flags.
It's east of stockholm between sweden and finland

>>78199832
Yes but it doesn't really extend much further than, hiding jews and Norwegian resistance fighters, and how we helped Finland.

A bit like how few Americans realize that although you did fight the Germans on the ground, your main contributions in the European theatre was keeping the Soviet Union from collapsing and bombing German cities to dust.

>>78200266
the UK and the Soviet Union*

>>78200266
there's a street in my city named after raoul wallenberg near our metro station that Jewish shysters named

>>78200098
what makes it look american?
the large wooden houses and trees?

When will sweden pay for its crime towards Finland ?

>>78200414
revisionism is NOT ok
dumb frog

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>>78200414
What crimes? We gave them civilization, the greatest gift.

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>>78200409
I think he means trees and spacing, and the maybe the construction methods because it isn't Moorish stucco

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>>78200409
unlike americans, vast majority of euros live like ants (as opposed to living in big wooden houses)

>>78200656
what are those numbers for the us?

>>78200762
less than 10% for sure

>>78200992
rent? no. Off the top of my head I'm sure at least 60% almost definitely more of black people rent. Similarly with Hispanics. Most urban dwellers rent, and fucked up white people do

So it's probably close to 35-40%

>>78197455
>Hur stor påverkar tror du Engelska lånord inom t.ex. IT-branschen har på framtida generationers förmåga att läsa Strindberg?
Faktiskt ganska stor, tror jag. Särskilt iochmed att IT-branschen anses bli mer och mer respekterad och uppskattad.

>>78198055
Really, I just think the amount of native monolingual Swedish speakers in Finland is really overestimated by Finns I've spoken to. I would think that percentage-wise, the Swedish-speaking finns learn Finnish to a far greater extent than the Finnish-speaking ones do. That's just a suspicion, of course, and if it is true I'm sure you could say that bilingual Finlandswedes have much more opportunities to make use of their second language than Finnish-speakers do. But even if that's the case, it seems like the people in Finland are held up as a hindrance to the bilinguality of the Finnish population far more than is frankly fair.

>>78202838
*the people in Finland who only speak swedish are held up

I dont hate fennoswedes or swedes or even swedish language but i hate the fact that I am having a specific life choice like learning a foreign language imposed on me as an obligation. and no, just because it says le billingual in constitution it doesnt make it any less foreign to me PERSONALLY. mandatory swedish is an 18th century artifact which main purpose was to try to assimilate finns into swedish kingdom and i will refuse to partake in it unwillingly. if i am to be taken to prison for refusing to engage in swedish when demanded then I'll gladly do so, but no snobby fennoswede will get a snicker out of me speaking mediocre swedish.

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FUCK FUCK SHIT FUCK
FUCK LAPPI, REINDEER JEWS
GO TO ARMY :--D
GO TO W O R K :---DDD
SPEAK FINNISH!!!!!!!

Thanks for this godlike shitposting greentext

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>>78203320
Seems like a pretty reasonable and understandable viewpoint. I mean, as long as you aren't forcing other people into going along with it of course.

>>78203761
well like i said its a personal matter. I have studied swedish after school years out of my own interest and not because i need to satisfy the needs of some arbitary langauge minority that refuses to be reasonable. call it being stubborn or stupid or whatever.

>>78203568
but we all go to army and work and speak finnish

>>78203320
Swedish is also right next to you and a good base for later learning English. You sound like some sort of postcolonial cuck

>>78204149
I learnt english without swedish like the MAJORITY

>>78204149
Just cause you border somewhere doesn't mean you necessarily have to learn it's language. I mean, even though I would imagine Swedish would be more useful to most Finns than Russian, I could be wrong. And since there is also a strong preassure to learn english, many might just want to go directly to that, and not have to learn 3 languages. As good as being well educated and having knowledge is, it is understandable to me that some might think it isn't worth the time and effort.

Although I'm sure all school systems force people to learn things that they never get to have any use for, so this isn't much different in that way.

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>>78204149
but i already know english? and i learnt it through absorbing western media that's in english. it's almost like i learnt a language because i needed it for a tangible purpose. imagine hammering a language closely resembling to english (to the point that it's an annoyance) down your throat that you literally dont have any use for outside of the classroom or reading those sidepanels on groceries (which come in both finnish and swedish anyway)