I hate this white race meme

What's really white, the skin color or the complexion?

>>78057536
By my experience it's skin color

>>78057599
Are iberians and italians white? Are the southern french white? And the northern french?

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>>78057599
Are MENA people white? Are east asians white?


White race is a meme, it doesn't exist, there is no distinguishing feature.

>>78057668
All are.

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>>78057718
FYI

>>78057668
Some are "white" in terms of skin color others darker that's why I hate the term "white"

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>>78057761
So whites are caucasoids?

>>78057807
That make Eritreans white

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>>78057807
Yes. But not all caucasoids are White.

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>>78057858
Ok so we are in agreement that white skin + Caucasoid is white. That means you can simultaneously be paki and white.

>>78057913
The racial term is Caucasoid. You can be a non-White caucasoid. Hard to understand?

>>78057807
>>78057858
Great meme maps

It's okay guys, Estonians are just cucked Balts.
White masterrace strikes again!

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>>78057937
Yeah but if you have white skin and are a caucasoid, you are white according to these rules. I'm just pointing out that this means a Syrian, a Iraqi, or a Paki could be white by these rules.

>>78057807
>extra detailed inner regions on the US and Europe
>national borders as ethnical borders and lack of inner regions on other regions
that's how you know the guy that made it is either Euro or American, and only used widely available information instead of doing actual resarch

>>78058017
They have pale skin, doesn't mean they are White Europeans.

>>78057807
>Somalia
>Afroid
>Djbouti
>Semitoid
Dude are you retarded?
>>78057858
This map is okay.

"White people" is a meme, no such thing exists. White nationalists did not see slavs as white 70 years ago, and now /pol/ is filled with them.
While biological differences do exist, race is a social construct

>>78058048
OK, so now we are back to the conclusion that there is no defining feature of whites, since you have devolved back to "muh Europe" definition.

>>78058212
It's not "muh Europe". "White people" are in fact Europeans. Again, is this so hard to understand? You seem clueless.

>>78058244
What physical feature is it that Europeans have that distinguishes them from non-Europeans and thus non-Whites by your definition? You seem insensible.

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>>78058392
A few examples

>>78058469
If an Arab dyes his hair and wears contacts is he European?

>>78058469
by that definition quite a lot of arabs are white.

>>78058527
They've natural non-White features so no, it will probably make him look uglier

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>>78058469
Non-Europeans have these features.

>>78058167
Pol can't be white only board, 90% ameriburgers couldn't post there

>>78058469
>only white and black people exist
Had to check your flag because this is burger tier posts, and doesn't that prove that there isn't one homogenous group that can be labelled as "white"

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>>78058540
Caucasoids, perhaps. Clearly not Europeans

>>78058581
What does European have to do with skin color? Again, how do you define "white people", is your definition of race based outside of biology ?

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>>78058573
Europeans are White, with various ethnicities. Just like niggers

>>78057420
In Europe only Germanic peoples are white.

>>78058581
>posts a picture where slightly tanned/white skin-brown eyes and brown/black hair is considered white
>posts another picture with arab man having sort of tanned/white skin black bears and most probably brown eyes and calls them non-white
okay.

>>78058619
Read the posts above. White people are Caucasoids, and there are non-White caucasoids. It's just a synonym for Europeans.

>>78057761
That's a Jew with blonde hair

>>78058666
So the term is not based on biology, white people refers to Europeans and not to people with a white skin color according to your posts

>>78057761
Did you just post a Jew?

>>78058716
Exactly, "caucasoid" is based on biology however

>>78058773
Then why do white nationalists use biology to justify their ideology?

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>>78058773
Somalis are Caucasoid, one drop rule nigger.

>>78058802
They talk about both Caucasoids and White Europeans
Different ethnicities from the same race can have inherent particularities
Like Europeans have a way higher IQ and diverse physical features, which often make non-European mad about it

>>78058828
They're race-mixed

>>78057807
Caucasoid is a meme race invented by anglos and germs to steal the achievements from ancient civilizations.

>>78057599
>By my experience it's skin color
>tfw white skin
Thanks for making me feel better about myself.

>>78058895
you're thinking of aryans

>>78058887
iq is a meme insanely based on stability and economy of the country. you live in a both economically and politically stable place you have higher iq because you automatically pass the "staying alive" test and now can focus on other shit like mathematics etc.

also iq literally means you are good at solving iq tests and nothing more.

>>78059071
Of course. This is why French IQ decreases in average since mass immigration waves :^)

Look at these monkeys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf7tAhw8jTc

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>>78059125
these guys clearly have economic instability

>work in low wage jobs
>people are racists towards you
>get pushed around everywhere
>wew black man why cant you just solve this integral

you said """""whites""""" had high iq though. interesting.

>>78059071
there have been plenty of experiments where they have refuted this hypothesis. in the USA they conducted multiple tests with niggers and south Italians from different generations finding that they remained fairly similar.

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>>78059208
More like
>gets welfare
>free housing
>free school
>still behaves lke a monkey

makes me think

>>78059275
as i said, the more education you have the higher iq you ll get in tests. it has nothing to do with race etc.

if a person doesnt know how to solve integral, how do you expect him to solve integral? thats the most bullshit thing ever.

>>78059353
Wrong, many IQ tests are practiced for children before they are actually "educated"

but stay in denial it's funny

>>78057420
>(((White)))

>>78059300
>gets welfare
how much euroes a month? is it enough to have a normal life in your country that you wouldnt need to earn more money?

makes me think as well. apparently i order to get "welfare" money in france you first have to earn 50% less than minimum wage which is 900 euros a month. is 900 euros a month enough for a normal life in france?

>>78059397
>before they are actually "educated"
what does that even mean? where are your sources? how do you control for that?

>>78058392
>physical features
Genotypes are NOT phenotypes.
None of you idiots have an clue what you're on about and both "white" and "race" ARE NOT scientific terms.

>>78059492
thats why IQ tests clearly mean absolutely nothing.

>>78059125
No shit, lot of third world countries has shitty education and a culture that doesn't promote education mainly because once a child becomes a grown up they're immediately told to get a low wage work rather than continue
education

>>78059492
>where are your sources?
my ass

>>78057420
Americans invented that meme just so you could WE WUZ as all Europeans at once. You stood on the previous ideas of Germs and Anglo intellectuals of the Victorian era who wanted to WE WUZ as Romans instead.

>>78059492
He pretends IQ tests are about "solving integrals" while it's just basic cognitive tests

t. did an IQ test at 8

>>78059564
It's the same when they grow up here, don't worry. A nigger always remain a nigger.

>literally be given free college because you are a nigger
>also scholarships and normie support
>escape classes
>join the BLM instead of studying
>getting drunk
>never do a single homework
>fail miserably

Ayo whitey, it is yo faut dat i fail da skool

>>78058887
>They're race-mixed
All humans are "race-mixed", you fucking idiot. That's how natural selection works.

>>78059071
>iq is a meme insanely based on stability and economy of the country
The predominate underlying factor is genetic. Economic stability, accessibly to education, nutrition, etc. etc. etc., are means of fostering the expression of said genetic potentials.

>you live in a both economically and politically stable place you have higher iq because you automatically pass the "staying alive" test and now can focus on other shit like mathematics etc.
Are you a creationist? The human brain developed those regions for abstract cognition a long time ago. I'll give you a hint: It's the reason for the name "Homo Sapiens Sapiens". We didn't going from being an upright great ape to being a thinking ape in the past few thousand years.

>>78059749
>be nigger in France
>get free housing and gibs
>quality public school
>positive discrimination because muh inequalities
>still a monkey who destroys everything on streets and throw rocks at policemen and fireworkers

Hmmm, I bet it's because of social oppression

>>78059208
Also

>Be born in a literal paradise, where you have all of the materials to have a nice civilisation
>do nothing
>built mudhuts for the hundreds of thousands of years and nothing more
>ayo whitey, it is yo fault i neva amounted to anythang

FUCK NIGGERS

>>78059397

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2009/07/the-truth-about-iq/22260/

Iq tests are meant to compare differences within a population not between them

>>78059780
>All humans are "race-mixed", you fucking idiot. That's how natural selection works.
Some people like Malgasians, for instance, are highly race mixed between the Asian type and the nigger type. Some regions, however, are homogenous.

>>78059719
not here, literally had a Somalian girl in my class who straight up got A's in mathematics. also literally nobody does iq tests for every kid

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>>78059908
>my cherrypicked example is meaningful
The vast majority of people from African ancestry miserably fail here, and live in shitty districts where no one wants to go. Not my fault if reality proves my point.

>>78059883
>Some regions, however, are homogenous.

Not really because in the past they were the result of mixing

>>78059816
being born in a paradise mean nothing. by your logic everyone in sweden/finland must have at least a nobel prize in their houses. but they dont. each and every people have their own psychology and external events which effects their life. being a black in europe sure isnt as easy as it sounds. if so why dont you immigrate to europe and see it for yourself as well?

>>78059780
genetics rarely has effect in success. there are so many people with quite high iqs but are not successful at all.

>>78059780
>The predominate underlying factor is genetic. Economic stability, accessibly to education, nutrition, etc. etc. etc., are means of fostering the expression of said genetic potentials.

You reallythink a place can have good educational achievements in rankings with bad nutrition, poverty, lack of education and political bullshit?

You honest to God think Koreans always scored high?

>>78059975
>there are so many people with quite high iqs but are not successful at all.
No one is saying that IQ=Success

Look at /r9k/, that board is literally filled with geniuses, but they are underachievers.

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>>78059975
>being a black in europe sure isnt as easy as it sounds
You can rape freely and only go a few months in jail, so yeah no it's very easy, at least in liberal countries.

But where Africans are in majority, where they are free to be as emancipate as they want, they just make African-tier shit.

>>78060122
its clear that you are an agitated edgy kid blaming your own misery on others. blacks arent destroying your country, you are yourself destroying your country.

>>78060114
french here basically claims that europe is master grace because europeans have higher iq and blames all the recent bullshit in europe to blacks. so he equates success to iq basically since if europeans werent high iq they wouldnt be this successful as countries.

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>>78060194
If races were equals Whites would cross the Mediterranean sea on daily basis to live with nigger engineers, but they don't. I work and pay taxes, so I'm not miserable at all, don't worry. Blacks don't destroy the entire country, but they surely destroy the areas they live in, both tourists and indigenous avoid them

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>>78057420
estonians are balto finnic not white since white does not exist

>>78060114
>Look at /r9k/, that board is literally filled with geniuses,

This is so wrong.

>>78059719
Still no sources, and I never implied that.

>>78060443
They are 2 smart for their own good.

>>78060509
No sources about?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wechsler_Intelligence_Scale_for_Children
You didn't but the Turkish did and he's the one I was replying to. I wonder who's the moron here.

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>>78059071
>also iq literally means you are good at solving iq tests and nothing more.
>t. not only brainlet but also an uneducable brainlet
>>78060114
>iq is the second factor after industriousness that has an affect on predicting success
I remember something like this from one of jordan peterson's lectures, you might want to check them out if you are interested

>>78060607
i got 144 from an iq test that i had when i was 10 thank you very much. now gtfo. if i am brainlet then i am the sole reason why iq tests are worthless because proof by contradiction.

>>78060660
>my case is a generality
Also, which test?

>>78060680
idk just some iq test that my mother forced me into when i was a kid.

also
>what is proof by contradiction

>>78060722
high-IQ are 1/3 successful 1/3 average and 1/3 losers so it doesn't mean very much
the average matters more

too bad you don't have the reference :^)

>>78060607
>>also iq literally means you are good at solving iq tests and nothing more.
It's true though. You can practice and get better at answering iq test questions

>>78060781
You can make brain training to keep it in a good shape, it's always useless, also the IQ can change by a few points until the age of 25 or so - but if you've natural higher abilities it will not make a big difference.

>>78060764
140+ iq is considered genius and i am for sure not a genius because i am clearly arguing with a french on a mongolian knitting image board.

>>78060848
130+ is
And you're probably lying anyway

>>78060939
why would i lie seriously? what is there to gain from lying here? absolutely nothing.

>>78060965
for entertaining, I don't know
you can have all the reasons in the world

>>78060593
Where in this wiki article does it support your eugenics theories about childhood intelligence?

>>78060846
You can improve at IQ tests by learning the patterns. You think that humans can improve at anything but IQ tests?

>>78061015
I stated you could pass an IQ test at the age of 6-8 before receiving an actual "education" like learning advanced mathematics, etc. You're irrelevant

>>78061038
You can improve a little bit, but some have higher natural abilities and there is a defined peak you can't exceed.

>>78061054
You literally didn't say anything about 6-8 year old kids in your original comment. You used youth tests as your justification to the Turk that IQ is linked to race, and I still don't see that literature from you. You are insufferable.

>>78061167
The Turk said IQ was based on education, which is the reason why it's so low in Africa
Then I answered
>Wrong, many IQ tests are practiced for children before they are actually "educated"

You're literally braindead, plus the butthurt namefagging
Next time don't interfere in discussions you have no clue about

>>78061296
i didnt say its solely based on education but with education you can improve your iq. its majority based on socioeconomic state of the person in my humble opinion.

>>78061296
Yes, and where is the literature showing young children of different races have appreciably different intelligence scores as you imply?

Honestly, even for a eugenics fag, you're really slow.

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>White "people"

>>78060660
its a matter of statistics, its idiotic to pull proof by contradiciton stuff since we are not talking about rock hard mathematical theorems
if the tests are accurate on average they are useful
of course there might be outliers like you who just happen to be good at that sort of puzzles, but that on itself is not an argument against the validity of iq tests
>>78060781
yes you're right but thats like saying that blood sugar tests dont give accurate results when you eat an ice cream beforehand
you're just cheating the test

>>78059626
Nah, it actually goes back to the writings of blumenbach and beyond.

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>>78061324
IQ isn't linked to that it's due to brain abilities

>>78061361
The average IQ scores are mixing children and adult tests
And, as I said before, the numbers don't change even for niggers who grew up in developed countries, they still remain far below

>>78061296
They usually try to explain the gaps in kids scores to differing SES levels which still doesn't explain all of it.

>>78061566
>The average IQ scores are mixing children and adult tests
No source to be found.


Besides you said kids "before education" have differences based on race. Still waiting for that.

>>78061566
so just checked where that map came from and apparently a major criticism of the book is;

>assigning causality to a correlation without evidence

okay. i got my answers.

>>78061719
It's not about "no source to be found", they pass test through all ages of genders, it's like you were asking for a source regarding differences between men and women, it's not relevant here
The IQ barely changes between young age and 25, and then doesn't change at all

This map is eloquent enough to show race-based differences, as the behavior of the niggers where they come in White-majority countries
That's it
If it makes you angry it's not my problem

>>78061770
It's also been published in 2017 in Science & Vie, a notorious French newspaper
http://blog.intelligence-humaine.com/science-et-vie/

>>78061886
i dont know french i cant understand this.

>>78061956
It was just for your information
it's not something you only find on /pol/-tier websites

>>78057668
Italians? Some are, some aren't.

>>78061886
You still haven't shown a source proving your claim that children "before education" show racial differences in intelligence.

If you show some map with averages of all ages that doesn't prove anything with regards to children, I don't know why you are having such difficulty grasping that.

>>78057599
>tfw Assad is white

>>78057420
am I white (pure italian)?

>>78062049
Of course because the point was about the relevance of IQ tests
You completely missed it

And as I said the IQ almost doesn't vary between 8 and 25, that's why you can mix up the numbers even if the test is slightly different

Hope it's been understood now

>>78062122
Ok well now you're changing the premise of your claim so I guess there is nothing left to argue about, I guess I'll go argue about eugenics elsewhere.

>>78062077
what the fuck does "pure" even mean?
yeah sure, your ancestors and their ancestors lived in italy. But before that? 500 years ago? maybe
1000 years ago? maybe
pure is a meaningless word.

>>78062204
No, you missed the initial point and then tried to argue for whatever reason on a topic you have no knowledge about only to contradict muh /pol/tards
You can go back to where you came from now

>>78062285
it was a memeic phrase for ironic purposes, dumbie

okay so i was just curios and read some couple of stuff to express my thoughts in a more collective and coherent manner.

lets take a european "white" who had the luxury to go to a kindergarten where even he had the chance of taking some preliminary lectures about colors, shapes, maybe numbers and some other simple things, as an example kindergartens in turkey are generally like this, i went one of them as well when i was 3-6 years old. this can be considered as an education because the child himself cannot realize/understand what is a triangle and what is a circle, someone has to teach him.

it is very natural that such a child would score better in an IQ test, which generally asks about shapes, maybe numbers etc., than a, some other kid from somalia lets say. does this mean that somalian kid was inferior just because of him being black or whatever? or is it because he didnt had the luxury to attend to such a kindergarten and had the prior education?

in addition to this, a more coherent argument is that what is intelligence? from culture to culture, abilities needed to "survive" and be "successful" change a lot. would a french survive properly in between somalian pirates? if he dies there at the hands of somalian pirates does it mean because he is simply an idiot? no, its just this kind of tasks require different type of "intelligence" hence doesnt mean french was an idiot, he is just ill-equipped to face such struggles.

maybe in somalia, in order to survive, you dont need to know shapes and integrals but you need to know something else. which is natural.

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>>78062288
All you have to do is scroll up to see how your initial argument was that IQ is race dependent because little kids show divergence in intelligence based on race "before education".

>>78061296
it's probably a variety of factors, with genetics being one.

The influence of race on 3-year-old children's performance on the Stanford-Binet

>>78062574
The argument about children was because the Turk said it was only related to education, no more
But as you're a low-IQ nigger you can't understand a basic discussion
Proving again my point

+ I thought you left? :^)

If you're not Western European then you're not worth thinking about

It's as simple as that

>>78062638
>Turk said it was only related to education
ok, doesn't change the fact that you still have no sources on pre-educated children having appreciable differences in intelligence based on race.
But feel free to write another paragraph completely unrelated to that to distract from the fact that you still have yet to produce this source, or better yet spam some racial meme.

>But as you're a low-IQ nigger
>everyone who disagrees with me is black
I'm not.

>>78060114
>Look at /r9k/, that board is literally filled with geniuses
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>78062966
It's not a matter of sources, the IQ level doesn't vary between young age and adult, only the test does. If you still can't understand this you might probably be a low-IQ yourself or, more likely, a nigger, as you're constantly and miserably trying to defend them (and just posted a picture of a monkey) :^)
You lost the argument and said you were leaving but you're still here spreading your butthurt
You shouldn't have reacted to a discussion you weren't implied in, remember it for next time

>>78057536
White is an adjective that describes culture, not one that describes genetics. For example, the Japanese are white.

>>78063068
>If you still can't understand this you might probably be a low-IQ yourself or, more likely, a nigger, as you're constantly and miserably trying to defend them (and just posted a picture of a monkey)
Damn, this is what the educated eugenicist devolves to once pressed for facts. Keep up the source-less pseudoscience.

>>78063271
>pressed for facts
I already posted sources regarding IQ differences by country, feel free to look up for more information on the topic.

Also the IQ here is decreasing due to mass immigration, I wonder from which countries these immigrants came from!

>>78063386
You didn't post a source for your "before education" claim, and it is apparent you never will.

>Also the IQ here is decreasing due to mass immigration, I wonder from which countries these immigrants came from!
We aren't talking about that lol, put your agenda down for two seconds and try to stay focused.

>>78063576
>You didn't post a source for your "before education" claim, and it is apparent you never will.

You still can't understand? I'll try to be more clear.
1) There are IQ differences between races and countries, as backed up by multiple sources above
2) The Turk says IQ is a matter of education
3) I said that quite often the tests are made at young age
4) You come and autistically screech for sources that have already been posted
You can Google "IQ differences between children" or anything you want you will not find any datas, because they're not relevant. They're included in the IQ results.

>We aren't talking about that lol, put your agenda down for two seconds and try to stay focused.
It's just an additional information to prove my point a little more

>>78063737
>3) I said that quite often the tests are made at young age
You still haven't shown this part at all. Where are the racial results for these tests for kids before education?

>>78063867
>You still haven't shown this part at all. Where are the racial results for these tests for kids before education?
Of course, because the point was only to prove that the tests can be done from the age of 6. It wasn't to point out specific datas for kids as the IQ doesn't vary between this age and adult age. Still clueless I see?

>>78063931
>Of course, because the point was only to prove that the tests can be done from the age of 6.
That wasn't the original implication. And if this was the case you wouldn't keep writing this next your racial theories if you weren't trying to create an association.

>>78063737
see >>78062567

>>78064009
It was. But as you weren't involved in the discussion it's harder for you to know that.

>>78064025
It doesn't make any difference, it's all about cognitive abilities, this is verified by the decreasing average results of White countries with high amount of African immigration.
The fact that they live in such poor conditions is already a consequence of their inherent idiocy anyway.

>>78064106
1st generation turks in germany were pretty bad but they adapted in 2nd and 3rd generations especially. as conditions improve, so does people.

>>78064163
I don't know about Turks, but here it's getting worse with the new generations

Note that your IQ is closer to ours than the African one

are white people white

>>78064335
Yes

>>78064623
Is America white

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>>78064944
Of course

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>>78064163
>>78064265
I think the reason you can't settle this is there is a bit of truth in both of your statements
Both how the person is raised(especially during infancy imo) and genetics might be a factor
However the problem is that if how the person is raised/culture is certainly proven to be a factor, you can't prove the genetics side even when it is actually true since there is no way a black person can EXACTLY simulate the life of a white european
Even when the black person fully adapts to the culture, his skin color is still different so there might be excuses about "how being different affects his psychology" in order to refute the theory
Anyway, this was a nice thread lads
Good night