How do we trick them into becoming Christian?

>>78027983
Promise them 148 virgins.

those inbred shitskins wtf i dont want to share religion with them

>>78027983
Islam will prevail inshallah.

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>>78028013
Sweetie...

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When you die for Christian God he gives you 73 virgins and a large doner kebab

>>78027983
>becoming Christian
>2017

Why so backwards?

>>78028013
Christianity is a middle eastern religion

>>78028038
why did you share an image of the best continent of the world?

>>78027983
Tell them Muhammad was a jew.

>>78028013
majority of catholics are shitskins

>>78027983
Not even your country is Christian anymore, Nigel (and you should be thankful for this).

>>78027983
A lot of them were actually Christian prior to about 600-900AD. Then Islam happened. Religion of war, waged war, killed/enslaved/taxed to death with Jizyah anyone who would not convert to Islam, and thus we have the current problem... which continues 1400 years later...

>>78029284
Why is this meme so popular
Do you not understand the concept of religious conversion of a populace

Religion is mostly congruent with culture. Christianity for the west/europe, and islam took arabia, persia, north africa into its middle eastern cultural fold

>be Assyrian
>alpha as fuck, one of the earliest empires and largest empire in the world for several centuries
>pagan religion says if you stop waging war for the empire life will end on earth
>suddenly christianity happened and they adopted it
>not long after invaded by Persians and made thralls to barbarian kurds
>nothing came out of Mesopotamia till Islam happened centuries later
no thanks keep your cuckoldry that turns wolves into sheep

>>78029522
Christianity was around for hundreds of years before Islam. When Islam came around, the teachings of war in the book inevitably lead to hundreds of years of war in which northern Africa and the middle east was essentially purged of Christianity. They even took the Iberian Peninsula (Spain and Portugal) and had tried to get into the rest of mainland Europe through France from the west and the Byzantine Empire from the east (which ultimately they did take though could not get closer to Europe) meanwhile attack after attack after attack took place on the European coast of the Mediterranean including around 800AD or so when they pillaged the remains of St.Paul and St.Peter in Rome.

If not for Islam, there would probably be much more Christianity in northern Africa and the Middle East. Under Islamic rule however, there is HUGE scrutiny against anyone who is not Muslim. If you're lucky to keep your head, the least you can expect is a Jizyah tax which is a special non-Muslim tax, and it is entirely left up to local Muslims to decide, which means they can easily tax you into poverty and starvation. It was these hundreds of years of war as well as the taking of Jerusalem which ultimately lead to the Crusades, which could be called the Second Crusades... the first being the Islamic Crusades that lead to amassing an area of land greater than the amount of land the United States has today. Potentially even greater than the Roman Empire.

>>78030083
Considering 'sheep' provided the west with the greatest civilization that humanity has ever seen, I'm happy to remain a sheep. Though in defence of Christianity there's at least one passage that says self-defence is ok. Can't remember which book or chapter it is, but essentially "If a thief breaks into your home and is dealt with a fatal blow, it is not manslaughter." Something like that. Either way, it's better than the savagery that comes with Islam which lead to Sharia Law.

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The real question is how to get Arabs to worship Woden and turn them into epic rape-vikings. Thoughts?

>>78030234
>provided the west with the greatest civilization that humanity has ever seen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno
lmao

>>78030298
This is just so silly it could work...

>>78030309
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_L3sglbcqs

Clearly we in the west have a lot to learn about proper technology, civility, and cleanliness.

>>78028013
>2017
>following a guilt tripping desert cult crafted by a jew
mate

>>78030530
you do know only thing iraqi about that bathroom is that it's built by iraqis
used (abused) by americans inside a military base

>>78029522
Christianity itself is a Middle Eastern religion, though.

Arguably the main reason why Islam is so prevalent in the Middle East is because the empires that had contained Islam were either too weak or too poorly managed to do so any longer. Here, I'm referencing to the Byzantine and the Persian Empires.

You also have the unfortunate truth that the Byzantines were also quite assholish toward their "fellow" Christians, especially in Egypt and Syria, where people would literally send letters to the Muslims begging for them to be liberated.
>>78028013
Christianity is a Middle Eastern religion.
>>78029284
The notion that the entire Middle East was converted via bloodshed or whatever is just not true.

As a matter of fact, the reason why most of Europe is Christian is for that reason.

Like Islam ,Christianity is a Middle Eastern Semitic religion. It was adopted by Europe, and introduced by some rulers. At the time, most of Europe was pagan. Christian Europeans then took it upon themselves to force the pagan majority into submission, and over the course of many centuries, the continent became Christianized.

>>78030149
>the teachings of war in the book inevitably lead to hundreds of years of war in which northern Africa and the middle east was essentially purged of Christianity
Do you honestly think, in your right mind, that what's written in a book is the reason for the conquests and the conversion of thousands of people?

Islam was just the cement that united the arabs and made them expand from their peninsula to the rest of the world, if it wasn't Islam it would have been something else, their system was based on arab supremacy which evolved into Islamic supremacy over the centuries (with the rise of the turks and persians), it would have been the same with or without Islam, north Africans, Levantines and black Africans still claim arab ancestry to this day.

Islam in itself is just a doctrine, It would be nothing if it wasn't successful in uniting arabs together.

>>78030771
Be sure to differentiate between Peninsular Arabs and Arabs as a whole.

Even before Islam there were plenty of Arabs living outside the peninsula.

>>78027983
They already fell for the Christian meme centuries before anybody else.

They're ahead of the game

>>78030697
Middle East was indeed converted via bloodshed. The early teachings of Muhammad had some sprinklings of peace but when he moved to Medina and gained more followers and political power it was then that he began his teachings of war. To spend in preparation for conflict and know that you'll be compensated in the end. To not take Christians or Jews as allies (this is repeated man times in the Quran), also saying that you should hunt down and kill Polytheists (which I believe includes Wiccans, Hindus, and the early Nordic beliefs was also polytheistic. Speaking of 'striking on the neck' which is of course beheadings. The Quran also blatantly says that Jesus Christ and Mother Mary are diluted, even though at the same time Muhammad suggests Jesus was a prophet of Islam which I don't believe for one second, then again I'm not a Muslim and damn proud of it.

In the first two hundred years of Christianity, if not more, there were no Christian Armies. Christianity spread by word of mouth, spread by peace, even as Christians were tossed in pits with lions for Roman entertainment. Then ultimately barbarians took much of the Roman Empire, yet still Christianty spread. Ultimately it was eventually the pagans and barbarians (Vikings included) whom the Christians had to defend from as they went across the North Sea into the British Isles, down to France, and also into the Iberian Peninsula which at the time was ruled by Muslims, taken by brutal force of course, killing/raping/enslaving numerous Europeans and Christians meanwhile no doubt taxing the non-Muslims they didn't kill with Jizyah.

>>78030771
The Quran promotes war, Christianity does not, and the Crusades were an attempt to take Jerusalem back (after it had been taken by the Muslims). Also the Crusades took place literally after hundreds of years of brutal Islamic warfare, resulting in many churches being mercilessly pillaged and sacked. If Allah unified Arabs, it was to unify them for war.

>>78031287
Your views are such half truths I don't even know where to begin

>>78031335
I have read the Quran... I can provide passages for you if you like, there's even a couple that I approve of, but as much as I might try to find goodness in the Quran I seem to keep finding primarily evil.

You don't trick them obviously. You cut their heads and drink their blood then repopulate the area.

>>78031287
>The Quran promotes war, Christianity does not, and the Crusades were an attempt to take Jerusalem back (after it had been taken by the Muslims). Also the Crusades took place literally after hundreds of years of brutal Islamic warfare, resulting in many churches being mercilessly pillaged and sacked. If Allah unified Arabs, it was to unify them for war.
Okay, so you're basically telling me that it all comes down to what's written and that we can totally ignore the sociological facts. I wonder if you have any book in mind that explains the expansion of the Mongol empire, that would be interesting.

btw good job talking about an unrelated subject like the crusades, or using "allah" instead of "islam", i wasn't talking about theology.

there's a retarded brit on the int who thinks that muslims would've been considered as white if it hadn't been for islam
just sage and report his threads

>>78030697
>You also have the unfortunate truth that the Byzantines were also quite assholish toward their "fellow" Christians, especially in Egypt and Syria, where people would literally send letters to the Muslims begging for them to be liberated.
Yes, early christians had a lot of different sects and Byzantium imposed their own canon, they didn't allow the sects to diverge from the "state" religion, muslims didn't give two shits so they let christians worship however they liked.

>>78027983
They are going to become more and more shia.For good or worse

Catholics/christians won the religion war.There's literally two fucking continents just for us(north and south america) or 1(if you count the whole america)

>>78031866
>muslims didn't give two shits so they let christians worship however they liked.
Are you suggesting they didn't even impose a Jizya tax? That would be going against the Quran and Muhammad's teachings.

>>78031629
I am talking about the religions, and how they have affected history. Islam clearly had an impact on the hundreds of years of war in the 600s-900s and beyond. Even now Muslims are killing in the name of Allah, after all, I'm sure you know what "Allahu ackbar" means. If someone went out and shouted "IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!" before either shooting up and/or blowing up a place along with several people, I doubt anyone would be questioning what such a terrorist attack would have been done in the name of. On a side note, what does the Quran suggest if a Muslim should leave their Islamic faith? Everyone knows it is death, and also death is often prescribed if someone refuses to accept the Islamic faith. Now, for Christianity? If you leave it, it's cool. If you refuse to join, it's cool. It is up to the individual to decide.

I do like this one aspect of Islam though; it's a 'clean' religion. What with all the wudu and ghusl, it keeps Muslims quite clean, and I think Christianity would have done well to have a less-strict version of that.

>>78031992
Europe is also primarily Christian though the scales are being tipped as more refugees swarm in, resulting in a lot of rapes, murders, and the like. The left is being overturned though, and as the right strengthens, we will see to securing our borders and deporting those who prove themselves unfit for our superior western civilization. I believe much of Russia is also in Asia and Russia is primarily Orthodox Christian to my knowledge so there's a good chunk of Christianity in Asia, then there's the continent of Australia. It's no wonder that we Christians outnumber the Muslims, though we're not as quick to resort to violence as them. Also, take note that we're not leaving in droves to go to Islamic countries, yet they are trying to come to the west in as large numbers as they can manage, by the millions. Hundreds of thousands in US and Canada alone. Scary stuff, and if UK/France/Sweden/Germany is any sign of what's to come, we can expect a lot of rape and a lot of terrorist attacks. Truly, Allah is forever merciful... the offer is still on the table if people want some Quran quotes. I've got plenty.

>>78031287
Who gives a shit islamists are allies against materialism and socialism

>inb4 isis
We need iran's model for the west

>>78032235
What, pray tell, is "Iran's model"? I do agree though that socialism should be combatted against at all costs, the latest example of why being Venezuela, not that any more were really needed, mind you.

>>78032201
Also the fastest growing religion in africa is christianity.And most of the growh are from muslim converts(women in majority) fleeing from harsh religious oppresion.Take a look at nigeria.A country which represents the border of christianity and islam.Around 50% pop are christian and the value is increasing with muslims having a bad vision of boku haram and converting their families to christianity

>>78028760
The Middle East is a meme by the British Empire. It doesn't exist as a unified region.

>>78032455
This
wh*Te subhumans should learn that "middle east" DOES NOT exist. it's WEST ASIA.

>>78032386
A nominal republic based on traditional values. The general populace can have a voice in society and government, but it's not a republic that's inspired by enlightenment ideals; iran doesn't have elections for the same reasons the US or any western country has elections.

>>78032455
>implying there haven't been NUMEROUS empires that have unified the region for thousands of years

Just fuck off mate.

>>78032409
Well I hope that Christianity takes hold. If the west is any sign of what the coming decades should bring, they should experience a drop in crime which would of course lend itself to improving production and the economy. Ultimately however I think it would also be helpful to have some Caucasian guidance early on though I can't see that happening considering how Rhodesia went down, and likewise South Africa suffered tremendously once Nelson Mandela came about though that's also in part due to his attempts at integrating socialism. If they could manage to accept Christianity and focus on lowering crime, improving productivity, and maintaining a free market, things should naturally and steadily improve with capitalism firmly in place. The combination of Christianity and capitalism has certainly done no end of good for the west. Even with a shitty job like working at McDonald's or collecting/disposing of garbage, a person (man or woman, since we have equal pay) can have a nice little home with a nice little vehicle, good food to put on the table, practically unlimited clean running water, electricity, heating, potentially even some AC (or at least fans), top of the line toilet facilities, and things like TV/internet.

The western lower class, thanks to capitalism and modern western civilization (with Christianity at the foundations), must be the wealthiest lower class on the planet and of all human history, likewise the western upper class probably has it better than anyone else on the planet. Our biggest contenders are probably Japan, South Korea, Australia (for all intents and purposes, 'Straya is essentially part of the west), and... I hear South Africa was doing really well before Nelson Mandela but I don't know if they had ever reached western status. Rhodesia is another question mark but sadly they're no more. I'll also mention that if not for South Korea and Japan's westernization, they wouldn't be where they are today.

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>>78032797
Do not respond to this leaf. He is angrily shitposting because he just found out that both his mother and his 3 sisters have all been impregnated by superior alpha Islamic men.

>>78032574
I'm at a loss for words...

>Traditional values
You mean like what the right advocates in the west, as opposed to the cuck left that want to demonize all that we westerners and Caucasians have accomplished?
>A voice in society and government
We get that via elections, in fact the current President of the United States is someone that it would seem ONLY the American people wanted. Neither the American Government or seemingly even the rest of the world wanted Trump, because he wasn't a politician, he was merely a civilian, and a highly successful businessman. If US didn't have legitimate elections, then there would be a President Hillary, and she would be bending over backwards for the rest of the world while Americans would consider to suffer under the left.
>the US or any western country (doesn't have) elections.
You're either retarded, or incredibly high to the point of presently hovering above Jupiter or Saturn at the moment.

>>78032797
found the lefty

join the pre-enlightenment defense hang and take the traditionalism pill and realize there's nothing wrong with islam and everything wrong with this weird laisseiz-faire thing you're suggesting

>>78032079
>Are you suggesting they didn't even impose a Jizya tax?
They had to pay their taxes like everyone else, what a dumb question, do you think byzantines were exempt of taxes or something?

>talks about terrorism
>talks about apostasy
>talks about cleanliness
Are you responding to my post or are you throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks?

>>78033032
>>the US or any western country (doesn't have) elections.
You can't read.
I said the REASONS iran has elections vs the reasons the US and the west have elections are not the same.

No western republic has a conservative base to it.

>>78033117
Jizya tax is a non-Muslim tax, expressly for non-Muslims, because in Muslims society non-Muslims are second-class citizens, in fact even non-devout Muslims who don't follow Islam as strictly as possible are second-class citizens, like Muslims who might drink or smoke or not pray at all designated times.

>>78033117
I'm talking about Islam, and the culture Islam has brought.

>>78033241
You said 'iran doesn't have elections.' Also, the US has a lot of Conservatism in its history; it was the Republicans (Conservatives) who freed the slaves which the Democrats (Liberals) wanted to keep.

>>78033469
>Jizya tax is a non-Muslim tax, expressly for non-Muslims, because in Muslims society non-Muslims are second-class citizens, in fact even non-devout Muslims who don't follow Islam as strictly as possible are second-class citizens, like Muslims who might drink or smoke or not pray at all designated times.


False.
Jizya is a complement to the zakat, which is a compulsory tax that Muslims already had to pay regardless.

Stop making it sound fucked up when you and I both know it's just a different name for the same shit.

And as the other anon pointed out, every empire collected taxes. Even your precious Byzantines.

>>78033469
>You said 'iran doesn't have elections.' Also, the US has a lot of Conservatism in its history; it was the Republicans (Conservatives) who freed the slaves which the Democrats (Liberals) wanted to keep.


Oh my god you are so full of shit.

Democrat =/= Progressive

Republican =/= Conservative

The former two are political parties, and political parties change over time.


Again, you are full of half-truths.

>>78032624
Actually Empires tended to unify around the Iranian Plateau, Mediterranean and Levant. These areas weren't too often unified together as one place.

>>78033628
Right, so the Ottoman, Abbasid, Rashidun, and Umayyad were only centered around the Iranian Plateau and the Levant.... right...

>>78027983
Why replace Islam with another type of memetic cancer?

>>78033469
>You said 'iran doesn't have elections.'
are you fucking esl
heres what I said:
>iran doesn't have elections for the same reasons the US or any western country does
they have elections but not for the same reasons we do. jesus learn to read the full sentence

>The US has a lot of conservativism in its history
Irrelevant. That's true for every political entity. The founding of the US is firmly rooted in the enlightenment. It committed suicide by its own inception. Its position as leader of the neoliberal globalized world was almost inevitable

>>78032409
Actually it's just Christians fucking more. Also religious intermarriage is common as fuck on the continent (Balkans are like that too) so don't know how you managed to fuck up o that.

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What if we just ghost write a Nu-Quran and puppet some insurrection group and just parade around for a couple of decades until it eventually catches on?

>>78033538
It's not a different name for the same shit, have you never heard of Jizya? Here's a passage from the Quran

9:29 of the Sahih International version.
Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth (Islam) from those who were given the scripture - fight until they give the jizyah (non-Muslim tax) willingly while they are humbled.

Here's a freebie, about killing apostates.

4:89
They wish you would disbelieve (leave Islam) as they disbelieved (left Islam) so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them and take not from amongst them any ally or helper.

Another freebie...

9:23
Oh you who have believed (Muslims), do not take your father or your brothers as allies if they have preferred disbelief over belief. And whoever does so among you - then it is those who are the wrongdoers.

Religion of peace, indeed...

>>78034003
5:51
58:22

Also
86:6-7

He was created from a fluid, ejected, Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs.

Quran is a fascinating book.
Only 114 chapters.
Highly recommend it.

>>78033940
That is what Islam desperately needs, a New Testament. One that, like the New Testament of Jesus Christ, promotes peace, tolerance, forgiveness, and above-all promotes NOT blowing people up for not being Muslim. It should promote accepting people as allies even if they are not 'believers'. This is what Islam truly needs if Muslims wish to join us in our superior western culture.

>>78034101
>One that, like the New Testament of Jesus Christ, promotes peace, tolerance, forgiveness
You fucking what?

>>78034101
w e w

>>78027983
They should become Zoroastrian again. ALL of them

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>>78034127
Christianity is the true religion of peace. Jesus Himself went against the barbaric aspects of the Old Testament which was written centuries before Jesus walked the Earth, and on a side note the Old Testament is also a part of Judaism. Anyhow, the Old Testament, particularly in Leviticus, there are passages that expressly describe situations that would permit being put to death, specifically by stoning. What did Jesus say? "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." In saying that, Jesus went directly against parts of the Old Testament, and I believe this is why modern Christians do not go by the more barbaric parts of the Bible. If we did, homosexuals would SERIOUSLY need to be in hiding anywhere Christians roamed because Leviticus 20:13 states that if a man should lie with a man as he would a woman, then they should be put to death.

So there is word, from God, saying that I as a Christian should see to homosexuals being put to death. This is not the case, because it is not what Jesus Christ wants, and it is not what I want, yet in the middle east homosexuals are being thrown from rooftops. Also in London over 90% of Muslims believe homosexuality is unacceptable (needless to say that's FAR higher than the national average) and 50% of Muslims believe it should be illegal (again, FAR higher than the national average). Also, US and Canada are primarily Christian, just like pretty much all of Europe, yet there is gay marriage. If Christians were against homosexuality, we would easily see to it that there is no gay marriage. We follow the teachings of Christ, and as I said, His teachings are of peace, tolerance, and forgiveness. Check out Jordan Peterson, he discusses the matter quite thoroughly.

>>78034444
Who gives a shit about homos

>>78033469
>in fact even non-devout Muslims who don't follow Islam as strictly as possible are second-class citizens
Kek, do you really think that the upper classes, which are always the most degenerate in any context, are treated as second-class citizens even though they have a powerful grip on the economy? That's a very juvenile thought.

>Jizya tax is a non-Muslim tax
muslims had to pay their tax as well, they had to pay taxes to byzantium before and you're supposed to pay taxes to your queen today, boo fucking hoo, go to Switzerland or Panama if you're so triggered by taxes.

>I'm talking about Islam, and the culture Islam has brought.
So you're not really responding, just pointing out some specific stuff to make me argue but you won't defend yourself. Thanks for telling me that you're a troll.

I can't believe we failed creating a modern day Christian homeland in the Middle East. The French were close with Lebanon but that failed after the Jewish state attacked the country.

>>78028776
not gonna lie, I'm really jelly of you guys. One day I wanna go hunting and own a cabin in Patagonia with a cute Italian-Argentine gf.

>>78034634
this has been my goal too for a while now

one day one day

>>78033768
They weren't. That's my point.

>>78034570
How was Lebanon even close with it's I dunno large Muslims populations.

>>78030309
well those "sheep" are turning you into a race of flipper babies, and you're still dumb enough to keep blowing yourselves up.

>http://www.alternet.org/world/falluja-babies-and-depleted-uranium-americas-toxic-legacy-iraq

>>78034523
The west. We believe in equality for all genders, sexualities, and religions (when they're not blowing people up or shooting people in the name of their 'God' that is). Even the vast majority of Conservatives want equality, including Trump, and there's good reason for his stance on transgendered people in the Military. It's not for no reason, and it's not for hate.

>>78034542
>non-devout Muslims who don't follow Islam as strictly as possible are second-class citizens (in Islamic nations)
This statement still stands as fact, and there have even been honour killings in the west at the hands of Muslims when people in their family begin to stay away from Allah or the barbaric culture they left behind.

>Muslims had to pay Jizya
No. Muslims pay Zakat. The Jizya is a special tax that Muslims do not have to pay, it is for non-Muslims, and its amount is dependant on whoever is in power in the region.

>Not responding
I don't see how I am not responding to things, I am responding to your points here, and I don't see how it is trolling when I am speaking truths. Whole truths that is, not the 'half-truths' you mention, or your Takkiyah lies. I can provide more passages of the Quran if you want. Like I mentioned I think, there is a couple I actually like.

>>78034749
I hear almost half of Lebanon is Christian now.

>>78030298
Islam is already too much like the "religion" of vikings.

Le die killing infidels so you can get to heaven

>>78034895
they haven't published a census since the Syrian refugees flocked in.

There used to be a Christian majority but definitely not anymore, or at least until the refugees go back.

They currently have a Christian president though and even muslims like him.
Him and Hassan Nasrallah are besties apparently.

>>78034749
When it was founded it was a 55% Christian majority. And if you counted only the Mount Lebanon area (the main Christian center) it would have been 95% Christian. Now the country is 38% Christian and 62% muslim. Even the Mount Lebanon area is down to the 60% Christian range. The French could've done a bit of population transfer (Muslims in Syria, Christians in Lebanon) like what the British did with India and Pakistan.
>>78034895
Nope, at this point its even less Christian because of the influx of Muslim refugees from Syria. Only if you count the Lebanese diaspora then the Christians become a 70% majority, but good luck getting them to return to Lebanon.

>>78034956
Very glad to hear it, the more Christianity the better. Good can and must triumph over evil, peace must triumph over war, Islam must not win.

Friendly reminder the only fucked pu religion that tries to exterminate and sleaze others are freemasonry and judaism

>>78033469

Southern Democrats were conservative as fuck until the desegregation of schools, then they became Republicans.

>>78035152

Yeah remember that time those Jews drove a truck through a crowd of innocent people?

Oh wait that wasn't Jews at all...

>>78035265

Jews actually tried to exterminate christians from Yemen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhu_Nuwas

And freemasons killed 4 million arabs in gulf wars for israel

>>78034864
>believe in equality for all genders, sexualities, and religions (when they're not blowing people up or shooting people in the name of their 'God' that is).

Only because of fucking secularism.

>>78034957
>The French could've done a bit of population transfer (Muslims in Syria, Christians in Lebanon) like what the British did with India and Pakistan.


THE POULATION TRANSFERS WERE A HORRIBLE IDEA.

You know how much death and destruction happens in India and Pakistan many border areas due to it?

>>78035152
Sure are a lot of Muslims in France these days...
>>78035265
9:30 (Destroy Jews and Christians)
The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah"; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah". That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the sayings of those who disbelieved before them. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?

8:12 (Behead non-Muslims)
Remember when your lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, so strike them upon the neck (behead them) and strike from them every fingertip."

3:19 (Only Islam)
Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam... and whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah, then indeed, Allah is swift in taking account.

5:51 (Don't trust Jews and Christians)
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are in fact allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is one of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.
5:52
So you see those in whose hearts is disease hastening into association with them saying "we are afraid a misfortune may strike us." but perhaps Allah will bring conquest or a decision from Him, and they will become, ove what they have been concealing within themselves, regretful.
5:53
And those who believe will say, "Are these the ones who swore by Allah their strongest oaths that indeed they were with you?" Their deeds have become worthless, and they have become losers.

>>78035506

>Out of context verses all day every day

Why are islam obsessed detractors so dumb ?

>>78035506
5:63 (Rabbis and religious scholars are wretched)
Why do the rabbis and religious scholars not forbid them from saying what is sinful and devouring what is unlawful? How wretched is what they have been practicing.

5:75 (Jesus and Mother Mary are deluded)
The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; Other messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded.

4:46 (Again, don't trust Jews)
Among the Jews are those who distort words from their proper usages and say, "We hear and disobey" and "Hear but be not heard" and "Ra'ina," twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said instead "We hear and obey" and "Wait for us to understand," it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except a dew.
(Honestly, I don't know what 'Ra'ina' means.)

5:78 (Disbelievers among Jews and Christians are cursed)
Cursed were those who disbelieved among the children of Israel by the tongue of David and of Jesus, the Son of Mary. That was because they disobeyed and habitually transgressed.
5:79
They used not to prevent one another from wrongdoing that they did. How wretched was that which they were doing.
5:80
You see many of them becoming allies of those who disbelieved. How wretched is that which they have put forth for themselves in that Allah has become angry with them, and in the punishment they will abide eternally.
5:81
And if they had believed in Allah and the Prophet and in what was revealed to him, they would not have taken them as allies; but many of them are defiantly disobedient.

>>78035594
By all means, get a Quran, check these verses, and search above and below them. If there was any context that explained away the hatred in these verses, I would disregard said hatred.

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>>78035736
>If there was any context that explained away the hatred in these verses, I would disregard said hatred
I saw an explanation for some on mena

>>78035852
So how about something in regards to all the passages I've provided. You know, it would have saved Muhammad a lot of time and effort if He would have just not included hatred in his book, instead of providing hatred and then needing readers to use another part of the book to try and excuse it. Would have been better to just, y'know, NOT encourage war and killing in the first place.

>>78035736

>If there was any context that explained away the hatred in these verses, I would disregard said hatred

Apostasy was sentenced to death because people used to pretend being muslims to spy the prophet's community and lead to kill more muslims. What would you do to a canadian joining ISIS and getting caugh ?

Beheading is cited in a context of war, killing them during the battle, quran has a strong legislation on POW regime.

Dont trust jewish and christian kingdoms in the sense of not making long term alliance with them because they would want to convert you anyway and would betray you at any given opportunity. That happened during crusades, and more recently the creation of israel.

Islam is the most complete religion and this is why it scares jews and freemasons, unlike other people they would not submit to anything other than allah, and to break muslims they kill them and sleaze their religion.

Death by islamist terrorism since 1980 : 20 000
Death by freemasons/jews since 1980 : 4 millions, infecting iraq with uranium bullets (see fallujah malformations) and still killing muslims today (the coalition kills now as much civilians as bachar)

>>78036000
>Problem with some spies
>Kill all who leave Islam
Yeah, makes sense.

>Beheading
The passage (8:12) does not speak of war, nor the passage before it. 8:13 is provided and explains that it is because they are non-believers. Here is more...

8:14
"That is yours, so taste it." And indeed for the disbelievers is the punishment of the Fire.
8:15
O you who have believed, when you meet those who disbelieve advancing for battle, do not turn to them your backs in flight.

So the Quran will not allow Muslims to refuse to fight. It commands that surrender is not acceptable, and that they must fight, even to the death. not only that...

8:16
And whoever turns his back to them on such a day, unless swerving as a strategy for war or joining another company, has certainly returned with anger upon him from Allah, and his refuge is Hell - and wretched is the destination.

Now, can you imagine if Jesus Christ said to his disciples "if any one of you are ever attacked by those of another faith, fight, and if you turn to show them your backs then God will send you to Hell to burn for all eternity." That would be utterly ridiculous, and I believe it's ridiculous for any religious book to speak of waging war.

8:17
And you did not kill them, but it was Allah who killed them. And you threw not, O Muhammad, when you threw, but it was Allah who threw that He might test the believers with a good test. Indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

Now it also says that it's not the Muslims who kill, but it is Allah himself. So all those innocent people getting killed around the world in a cry of "Allahu ackbar", their belief is that it is Allah himself who kills those men, women, and children. He 'tested' the non-believers with a 'good test'.

>Do not make long-tem alliance with Christian or Jewish Kingdoms
So promoting conflict and distrust... just like I've been saying all along.

>Crusades
A response to hundreds of years of Islamic war.

>>78036000
Tell me, if Jews are so bad, and if so many Jews are in the west, then why do refugees flock there instead of other neighbouring Islamic countries? Not only that, if 20,000 is indeed the correct number (I'm doubtful, considering there were around 2000 during 9/11 alone) that's over 500 DEATHS per year in the name of Allah. Not only that, but according to the Quran, that's over 500 DEATHS per year (not including the unknown thousands (likely hundreds of thousands) that were injured) at the hands of Allah himself. Then there's ISIS, who is of course fighting in the name of Allah, so every soldier they kill, every civilian put to death at their hands (which are many), is another death in the name of Allah and at Allah's own hands. That is fucked up beyond all belief. Then if you include all those Islam-fueled wars since the 600s... Allah is the greatest mass-murdered in history with who knows how many millions upon millions upon millions being killed.

4 million killed by Jews? I'm not a fan of them myself, but that sounds like some Islamic horse shit to me. Take it up with Israel, who continues to kick aggressive Islamic ass. If the Jews are fighting against the Muslims, then as far as I'm concerned, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Even IF the Jews kill Muslims with disregard, the Muslims kill ANYONE, they don't care who. For the time being, they are the lesser of two evils. If the west can be saved from Islam and their evil horrors, THEN the Jews will be addressed, and if they are indeed as murderous as the Muslims would like people to believe (I've yet to see the evidence) then they will be dealt with, but the Jews are not killing the west, the Muslims are.

>>78036495

Thats the initial reason, apostasy mainly targetted mushrikins and not ahl ul kitab.

>tl;dr
>be kaffir
>get beheaded
>you were in the wrong path and fought muslims so you deserve it

If muslims must learn arabic, this is the mean reason. Translations can give you any interpretations and if you know so much about islam start to read muslim scholars such as al maliki, al albani or hanbal.

Jesus chased the temple merchants and came with the sword as much as the peace. (Its somewhere in the new testament i cant remember where)

>Now it also says that it's not the Muslims who kill, but it is Allah himself. So all those innocent people getting killed around the world in a cry of "Allahu ackbar", their belief is that it is Allah himself who kills those men, women, and children. He 'tested' the non-believers with a 'good test'.

Lmao this is some next level stupidity, you have the spirit level of a 12 y.o, the innocents will face their deaths but the terrorists are considered as hypocrits,did you read quran ? Can you tell me what it tells about hypocrits ?

>So promoting conflict and distrust... just like I've been saying all along.

Trust is what made native americans extinct and israel created.

And crusades was actually created because seljuks broke umayyad's peaceful reign. Arab christians hated as much europeans as muslims

>>78027983
So that the extremists will be christian ?

>>78036761

>jewish hystery

Typical, moise should be ashamed, modern jews have corrupted their religion to the point of not believing in hell.

Terrorist islamism could be avoided if israel was established in europe (if they only wanted a jewish nation). But europeans are so enslaved by jews that they accepted to support a state that has literally 0 interests to them, dying for him for no reason.

George bush senior tried to think for his country and not kill saddam to make middle east safer, but he was silences by aipac which used his son to accomplish their interests, how cursed can jews be amirite ?

>>78037083
I know the passage with the sword in the New Testament. At worst, it's saying not to accept relatives who do not accept Christianity (does not say to kill them or to strike them or anything like that). He actually says it to Matthew I believe, and may very well be during a time when he suspects he might be betrayed, so telling him such a thing may very well be telling him to watch out for those who are against him. It can be interpreted in a variety of ways, but no, he does not advise murder like Muhammad and Allah so enjoy. The sword is metaphorical, not literal. Allah's sword is VERY fucking literal.

The Quran says to kill those who leave Islam, it does not say to kill spies.

I'm simply going by what the Quran says. If you cannot face facts, if you can so easily pull the wool over your own eyes to make the Quran appear not drenched in blood, then that is your own blindness. I do not accept such blindness. I look at Christianity and Islam with criticism, and that bit with the sword is the worst I've found in the New Testament thus far. There's no talk of 'kill', or of 'strike', and at worst as mentioned it says to separate yourself from family if they are not Christian. Very unfortunate, I don't like it's in there, but like good Christians we look past the barbaric parts of the Bible. Muslims? No, they must look to the barbaric parts as well, otherwise they are not devout Muslims, and thus in Islamic nations would be seen as disgusting second-class citizens little better than non-believers, who have the Jizya tax forced upon them.

Haha, Islamic peaceful reign? After how many years of war? May as well say after Europe was taken, until D-Day in 1944, areas controlled by Nazi Germany were under 'peaceful reign'. The Takkiya is strong in this one, Jesus Christ, got any more excuses or are you ready to face the Islamic passages and the deaths wrought by them? It says over and over and over in the Quran, "fight in the name of Allah", "kill", "behead"

>>78037222
Oh, more excuses for the Islamic terrorism? No actual condemnation of it? More blaming of Jews even though the vast majority of terrorist attacks target non-Jews? How am I not surprised... Muslims see the Jews and lying, deceitful, slimy creatures. Yet whenever anyone actually wishes to critique the religion it's excuse after excuse after excuse, even lies, lies that have its own special word; takkiya. I think Muhammad knew he was writing such a terrible, hate-ridden, war-waging book. He knew that people would notice if they actually read it, but the books were so rare back then of course (as were all books, due to having to be written by hand) not to mention likely all written in Arabic back then, that it would be near-impossible. So if people ask about the religion, of COURSE they can't be honest, otherwise people would see Islam for its evil intents. For its distrust, for its murder, for its hate. So... Takkiya! Lie, pretend, give a big toothy grin and flutter the eyelashes, then when the numbers are right and they turn their back, attack. Murder, rape, steal, and enslave. Convert those who can, murder many who don't, and overtax those that remain with Jizya. Very clever, but the information age is here, and so people are learning, word is spreading, and even the left is shrinking as more and more people learn of what Islam TRULY desires. World domination, only one religion, Islam. The west won't have it.

>>78037316

I reread the verse of apostasy does not even relate toceeath penalty. Again, get to see scholar's opinions before proclaiming yourself knowing the quran with spouting random verses you found on eretzlsrael.com

Oh good so now bible can be interpreted but quran is bloodthristy ? Can you tell me why there are 4 maddhabs in islam ? For not letting dumbshits like you spread their ignorance.

>bible is peaceful boo a fucking hoo

The killing of cananeans was no so peaceful was it ? Neither did pharao's people or babylonians ?

Middle east was peacefuld under abassids and umayyads and thats why arabs were so advanced technologically, christians were even part of the high society, until crusaders fucked shit up allying with mongols.

Ottoman era was peaceful until the fall of it, leading to europeans destroying the harmony between the different communities for their own fantasies and later for oil.

>>78037222
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FUCK OFF SHEEDS

>>78033538
yes but the amount is not the same tree time the ammount of an muslim if i remenber , and muslim are literaly cancer . In my country they represent 10 percent of my population and 50 pourcent of the prisonial population.

>>78037647
fuck off muhammed al abdul ahad

>>78036000
can you explain why islam represent the majority of terrorist in the world ?

>>78036761
lie and do not count the burning church slavery and forced mariage sick religion you should see what happen of hindou in pakistan

>>78037461

They target europeans because they turned into jewish slaves and defending them by any means necessary, even or they attacles you on a failed deception operation (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident)

>boohoohoo takiya

Takiya was never mentioned in quran neither in sunna, its a druze concept stolen to Mizrahim jews

>>78032409
Thanks for spreading my values and culture for free you useful idiot.

t. Middle Easterner

God I love having cucked 70% of the world populations

>>78037784

Because freemasons/jews focuses on islam once communism has fallen, the anarchists are useless.

>>78037839
islamic asshole please , can you start to stop puting blame on other religion all the time. Your religon enslaved and fucked children right now , and it should be the jew fault also ?

>>78034444
Thanks for sucking my semite cock lmao

>>78037896

>boohoohoo pedophilia

Islam never allowed fucking 3 years old children nor pushed priests to rape kids

Stop focusing on muslims and muslims will stop focus on you, its that simple

>>78037965
hope trump bombs your relatives

>>78037996

Juste like obama did, he's just another kike puppet

>>78037965
I would gladly , if islam were not fucking my country right now , because there countries are shithole . Maybe not 3 year old but 9 nine year old . and why mohamedien like you will always justify your stupid religion by saying that other are doing worst, which is even not the case?

>>78027983
We trick them with genocide.

The biggest prank of them all.

>>78037965
why are you staying in a christian country , you would not dream not join your dream reality? Or muslim country are too shit to live here?

>>78038141

>France
>christian country

France has been kiked to the bones. Im here because, unlike you goyim, i can make the difference between kikefied leaders and normal people

>>78038092

http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm

>>78038316

??????????? You are staying because franc macon destroy christianity in my country ? Does not make sens , why would you not live in a not kiked country then. I do not care at all to live in a kiked country if there are not muslim . Muslim kill priest in france not jew . Muslim kill people in street with truck not jew. Muslim feed our prison not jew. Muslim sell drug and dirt our city not jew. Muslim rape people and attack people in the street not jew . Explain why i should blame the jew and not the muslim ?

>>78038592

These "muslims" (there are more and more christians africans and less muslims, just take a look at 18/19th arrondissement) are migrants that are imported by your kiked leaders

If you didnt intervene in iraq there would have never been isis and all that shit, you only target muslims because medias told you so, just like how they told you zemmour (jew) is the head of right in France and how serge ayoub (an arab) is the head of skinheads in France

>badmouth islam
>french flags attack me

>>78030666
How did it feel to be raped by the infidels?

>>78031467
This, it worked for us :3

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>/pol/cucks would be ok with rapefugees if they were christian
Reminder that christianity is anti white by default.

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Islam is shite and a plaque to the development of society as is anything that forcefully ingrains it's own ideals into the political process.

Process of law civil safety should always be conducted by mans own common sense and not by some "divine doctrine" written by a glorified hobo or a pedophile warlord.

>>78037965
Wiping you all off the face of the Earth would be easier, cleaner and more fun. You wouldn't be the first cocksuckers we genocided, berber scum.

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>>78042566
You are my inspiration Portugal <3

>>78038750
France didn't intervene in Iraq, you imbecile. I've seen farm animals smarter than you (the pigs, of course, that's why you shits don't like them).

>>78042631
Thank you, kiwi friend :D

>>78027983
Why would you want this? Modern educated man = irreligious

There goes 2 million neurins reading through the petty arguments of retarded insecure inbred /pol/tards and durka goatfucker pisslam apologists
mods nuke this thread already

>>78034864
>Takkiyah
kek

>>78037649
What is a "sheed"? New slur?

>>78044937
this desu

>>78027983
trick them into becoming secular instead?

>>78032515
t. turk who wants the ottoman empire back

>>78042665

Im talking about the first gulf war dumbfuck