/lang/ - Language Learning

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>Language learning resources:
http://4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

http://www.duolingo.com/
>Duolingo is a free language-learning platform that includes a language-learning website and app, as well as a digital language proficiency assessment exam. Duolingo offers all its language courses free of charge.

>>>/t/746368
>Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30+ languages.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9QDHej9UGAdcDhWVEllMzJBSEk#
>Google Drive folder with books for all kinds of languages.

https://fsi-languages.yojik.eu/languages/oldfsi/index.html
>Drill based courses with text and audio.The Foreign Service Institute (FSI) is the United States federal government's primary training institution for employees of the U.S. foreign affairs community.These courses are all in public domain and free to download.Site may go down sometimes but you can search for fsi on google and easily find a mirror.

https://www.memrise.com/
>Free resource to learn vocabulary, nice flash cards.

https://lingvist.com/
>It's kinda like Clozemaster in the sense that you get a sentence and have to fill in the missing word, also has nice statistics about your progress, grammar tips and more information about a word (noun gender, verb aspects for Russian, etc.)

ankisrs.net/
>A flash card program

https://www.clozemaster.com/languages
>Clozemaster is language learning gamification through mass exposure to vocabulary in context.Can be a great supplementary tool, not recommended for absolute beginners.

https://tatoeba.org/eng/
>Tatoeba is a collection of sentences and translations with over 300 hundred languages to chose from.

radio.garden/
>Listen to radio all around the world through an interactive globe

https://forvo.com
>Has pronunciation for lots of words in lots of languages

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http://www.effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/language-difficulty
>Check out information about languages and their difficulties

http://lexicity.com/
>An invaluable resource for comparative language study as well as those interested in ancient languages

http://cosmogyros.tumblr.com/post/108962232110/huge-new-language-learning-collection
>A very extensive language learning collection for 90+ languages.

http://www.dliflc.edu/resources/products/
>Similar to FSI, drill-based courses with text and audio issued by the US government.These courses were made for millitary personel in mind unlike FSI.

http://en.childrenslibrary.org
>Lots of childrens books in various languages, categories 3-5yo, 6-9yo, 10-13yo.

https://www.hellotalk.com/#en
>The app is basically whatsapp, but only connects you with people who are native in the language you are trying to learn. It also has a facebook type section where you can share pics and stuff too.

https://www.italki.com/
https://www.mylanguageexchange.com/
https://www.interpals.net/
http://www.gospeaky.net/
https://www.speaky.com/
https://polyglotclub.com/
http://lang-8.com/
>Few more language exchange communities like Hellotalk:

http://www.goethe-verlag.com/
>A mostly free site which offers audio and drill like exercises for 40+ languages.

http://www.languagetransfer.org/
>A free resource with recordings to learn a language.

https://babadum.com
>Flash card game with a focus on vocabulary.

http://context.reverso.net/translation/
>A website like Tatoeba (also has a Firefox extension!)


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How's the learning going, /lang/?

What language are you learning?
How's it coming along?
Any new methods you are trying to pick it up faster?

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>not posting all of the image guides
step it up, OP

>>78024493

>How's the learning going, /lang/?
Did two lessons of my French exercise book (130/200p) and revised vocabulary. Watched some Français avec Pierre(GOAT youtube channel btw.). Had two calls with qts on HelloTalk got HYPE'D for my flight to Geneva by the end of this month where I will be hosted by a qt I met on HT for 4 days.

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>>78024681
I thought others might like to post them also. They are fun and rewarding to post.

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>>78024716
>i'll never have the guts to do this

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>>78024721

>>78024786
Putting yourself consciously into situations where you will use your target language is an essential part of language study.

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>>78025053

>>78024716
That's great! Think things will get lewd?

>>78025302
She's dropped some hints but nothing too overt or explicit. Like she gauged my past experience(I made some amused and ambigious comments about that) and making sure that her parents are gone 'because she doesn't like the house being too crowded' but she told me about some bad past experiences from some wuss she met on a festival who made repeatedly inappropriate approaches after already getting rejected. So I have to find the golden mean.

I prefer being cautious with coming on too strong. Keeping things ambigious actually protects you a way because it doesn't provoke a strong rejection. For example if you've exchanged nudes and she finds out that you are a total assburger that this can lead to a strong ejection from her part but if you are keeping things fuzzy you can get friendzoned but still get hosted for free 'as a friend' (and Switzerland is expensive).

We'll see how it turns out.

>>78026002
Priorities are:
-language practice
-travelling for cheap
-getting laid

In that order.

>>78026002
>>78026253
Sounds like a great plan. How many languages do you know now?

>>78026002
You normalfags are insufferable. Take this 3DPD shit shit to /soc/.

http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20170731-greeces-disappearing-whistled-language

rip

>>78024968
>fat ugly loser with zero friends

At least in another language I will make friends right??

>>78024493
I "studied" for like 9 hours today.Read through a book with a dictionary.Was fun, gonna do it next week desu.

>>78027470
You gotta put yourself out there, it won't happen overnight but you'll eventually get there.

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>>78027592
>You gotta put yourself out there
I tried that one

Never repeating that mistake again

>>78028352
>one
once*

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The girl student in Michel Thomas Spanish has a very qt voice.

How do I get better at listening? I can read at just about fluent levels but unless they speak at a snail's pace, I get lost. I've watched countless shows/movies in my target (no English subs) for active practice, I listen to music for passive (meme) practice, and I've done Michel Thomas.

I don't know anyone who speaks the language so that's out. Language learning is for my own personal edification, so I'm not tripping too hard over this but this is aggravating.

>>78030126
Have you tried some of those slow news sites? Some languages have that where you can listen to the news but they speak slower.

>>78031252
Nah never encountered those, I'll give it a whirl.

Probably a vague or useless question but do these types of things still use the normal news vocab? I'll get annoyed if they tone down the vocab level. The simple words are the ones I can identify easily but once the sentences get more complicated is when I lose track, so I'd like it if they speak slowly but retain the complex structure/vocab.

>>78030126
how do you practice with music?
i give the song a listen, watch the lyric video, then give it a listen again and i should be able to at least distinguish where words begin and end
ill usually keep listening until the lyrics are clear enough to understand them on the fly

>>78024493
Learning Turkish and I gotta say it's tough to keep going. My drive keeps plummeting and I'm barely scraping out an hour a day of study.

>>78031823
>ill usually keep listening until the lyrics are clear enough to understand them on the fly
This basically. I just listen a bunch as background and it eventually sinks in through remembering the melody. It's more of a way to get used to the sounds of the language than an actual tool for serious practice.

thred ded

>>78034314
/lang/ is always pretty dead around this time

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When I listen to people from Spain talking on Periscope I've noticed they say "pues" a bunch. Is that similar to what "like" is for young American girls where they add it a bunch of places it doesn't need to be? I hear "pues" a ton.

>>78035080
I think it means bien

>>78026002
>I prefer being cautious with coming on too strong. Keeping things ambigious actually protects you a way because it doesn't provoke a strong rejection. For example if you've exchanged nudes and she finds out that you are a total assburger that this can lead to a strong ejection from her part but if you are keeping things fuzzy you can get friendzoned but still get hosted for free 'as a friend' (and Switzerland is expensive).
As long as getting laid isn't a top priority for you, then keep doing what you're doing. Just don't make this type of approach a habit for when you do find a girl you want to be with.

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Mari pagan dresses (at least, that's what I assume those at the front are) are pretty /fa/

>>78035176
Yes, but they just seem to toss it in there a lot randomly. I'm likely just noticing nothing, but, was curious.

>>78035429
Is the radio station website back up, Maribro?

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>>78035485
>Is the radio station website back up, Maribro?
nope

But I may have found another place where they play the station (I'll only be able to test it later), but for some fucking reason it doesn't work in my browser (firefox), so I have to use fucking IE. Needless to say, I'd really rather they just renew their domain name and go back to how it was a few days ago.

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>>78035613
Can you contact them and let them know about the seriousness of the matter?

So what does everyone think of Siri's new translation skills?

>>78036609
>iphones

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>>78036709
I've already had an ipad shoved in my face by someone who knows I'm learning Spanish.

>tfw couldn't understand it
even siri talks too fast for me. :o(

habla más despacio is going to be my most commonly used Spanish.

>>78036609

>iphones

This is mostly been asked before, but do you guys have a flowchart for learning German as in these
>>78024357
>>78024441
>>78024681

How long to be fluent in russian if you have a russian gf you can communicate with daily but you're very lazy being a spanish/catalan native speaker and fluent in english and french?

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>>78035774
I don't speak Russian, they most likely cannot into Engrish, and I'm still way too shy to try contacting them in Mari (not to mention the possibility that the person who actually reads the emails doesn't speak Mari, which would be a very spaghettiful situation).

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>>78038369
No flowchart

I found this today, I had forgotten I had it. It's not a flowchart, and a whole of it is simply ultra-generic language learning advice (not to mention the style is directly copied from Nama-sensei). But maybe it'll help you.

>tfw want to learn all the languages

>>78038517

That would only require you time.

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Is there a guide for Korean? I only own pic related, but it's really pleb-tier and clearly written by an amateur

>>78038573
How do you know when it's a good time to start learning another language?

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>ç

>>78039035
what about it

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>>78035774
>>78038428
Alright, I've just spent the last half hour composing an email message, rigorously digging through the dictionary to make sure it's as correct as I can possibly make it given my current knowledge. I also made it extremely formal.

But now that it's actually done, of course, I'm afraid of actually sending it.

>>78039751
Use a throwaway email if you're so nervous.

>Hey Boris, look at this nerd that likes our radio station! He can't even write correctly!
C'mon anon. I believe in you.

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>>78039838
>Hey Boris, look at this nerd that likes our radio station! He can't even write correctly!
AAAAAAAH

Why did you have to write that? That only unironically made me more nervous.

But fine, I'll do it. What's the best place to make a throwaway email adress? I used to have a hotmail throwaway but for whatever reason it no longer works, and I just looked at creating a yahoo account but it's a pain in the ass (have to provide mobile number and all that annoying crap)

>>78039922
I ahve no idea. Does hotmail not work anymore at all? You can try just a random gmail or something.

>>78024357
learning past subjunctive is fucking useless

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>>78039965
>>78039922
alright, it's done

If it turns out that I completely fucked up and it's literally unreadable, I'm going to be so fucking embarrassed.

>>78040331
Come on dude, why would you get bullied. Even if there's mistakes they'll get the gist of it and appreciate it.

monitoring because I am also learning russian and I want to know if your email's good or not

>>78040331
Good work, anon! This is the first time communicating with someone right? Being embarrassed is normal. I spilled all kinds of spaghetti in /deutsch/ my first time posting in there. ain't no thang.

Be sure to post their response if you get one.

>>78040368
It's not Russian, it's Mari

But if you have any questions about Russian, there's a German of Russian origin who sometimes posts in these threads, he's pretty good at explaining stuff and often seems keen on helping learners, if you're willing to wait for him to show up if you have some questions (which could take a while, obviously).

>>78040442
Ah I was wondering why I couldn't understand anything besides "Salam". I'm pretty stupid in the mornings.

>>78040215
why

>>78040381
thanks, and yes it is indeed my first time

Incidentally, this experience also made me encounter the most intimidating Mari word I've seen yet (тypгыжлaндapымeмлaн - "turgäžlandarämemlan" in Latin script). Luckily this one I'm relatively sure is actually correct.

>>78040215
>>78040511
I think the German might be confusing subjunctive past (a tense which is actually used, though which can be tricky for learners) with subjunctive pluperfect and/or imperfect (tenses which are literally NEVER used, to the extent where even many natives wouldn't be able to use them properly).

>>78040511
>>78040648
That's right, I'm more stupid by the day. I'll stop posting now.

>>78040756
Don't worry about m8, I can't speak for French people, but I can tell you that many Québécois fuck up their subjunctive tenses (i.e. use present when they should use past, or even worse use the indicative mood when they should be using the subjunctive mood).

>>78040793
Lol I don't think French people do that (French is my mother tongue) but otherwise they'd be equally unable to use the subjunctive imperfect I think. Flashback to my hs days:

>anons we're learning the subjunctive imperfect, pick a verb and the class will conjugate it
>can we do "savoir"
>"anon, non seulement tu es insolent, mais tu deviens crétin"

And no-one in the class laughed at my joke because no-one knows fucking subjunctive imperfect.

Any chance someone could dole up the Turkish chart a bit? I'm like borderline A2/B1 but I feel kind of stuck and would appreciate some more upper beginner guidance

I've seen the cyrillic "e" in russian be spoken as "ye" and "eh" in different words.
Is there any reason for this and when is each one sounded? (use of "ь" to not be considered)

Anybody successfully learn a language to a C1/C2 level? Feeling discouraged and need some guidance.

>>78038428
I speak Russian, maybe I can help.

if i do a duolingo course while following a grammar textbook and immersing in german films, tv, and music going to be sufficient for starting out in german? also can I get some music and film recs? thanks in advance

>>78044566
If you put in 800 hours of study, sure, why not?
But as soon as you drop the grammar book (which is only meant to get you started) and start reading books that interest you, the better.
Also I wouldn't consider music study time, you have to make no effort of understanding it in order to enjoy it, so unless you're practicing how to sing them and looking at translations afterwards, you're not taking much out of them.

I'm not into German, these are the only tracks in my playlist, from favorite to least favorite:
Peter Fox - Alles Neu (rap);
Grossstadtgeflüster - Ich muss gar nichts (not sure, but very obscene);
Nena - 99 Luftballons (pop, 80s);
Die Aerzte - Junge (rock);
Rammstein - Du Hast (rock).

(JA), EN, FR, ES, DE, NL, FI, IT,PT, PL, RU, CN, VI, MS/ID, EL, SV

I can't distinguish Malay(MS) from Indonesian(ID).

>>78038671
talk to me in korean is a good resource from what i know
i know it's ridiculed, but the korean language learning subreddit is active from what i know
>>78038831
fufufu anon, it's always a good time to start a language

>>78042513
pls

>>78041324
Selam, just learn more, speak more (if you're not shy) and read more.
You don't need a guide at this point to tell you *exactly* what you should be doing right?

>>78045775
Indonesian has lots of Dutch loanwords, while Malay has not.

>>78042513
sound shifts
you know how english orthography doesn't match up to the actual sounds?
russian is a slightly milder case of that

>>78046316
>i know it's ridiculed, but the korean language learning subreddit is active from what i know

The language learning sub and the specific language subreddits are usually good. Those have nothing to do with reddit and its toxic sjw culture in general.

If you want to learn a new language, Korean like that guy who replied to you, it's certainly worth to check the faq and subreddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/Korean/comments/rq3th/the_ultimate_beginners_resource_thread/

>>78047051
yeah
slightly off-topic, but have you noticed that r/europe has shaken off a lot of its leanings?
you see comments putting comments in a negative light
there's actual debate too
it's still staunchly pro-EU but oh well
i'm glad that the circlejerk was toned down a lot

>>78047156
No, I only visit subs catered to my hobby's.
Everything else is a waste of time.

>>78035080
you're right I think that would be the equivalent of "like"

>>78047038
So there's no way to know without looking it up?
Ie. Lenin is "leneen" or "lieneen"

>>78047406
well you can guess english words no?
as i said, it's a milder case
you can know if you memorise the sound rules
like unstressed o as a or final v as f or something
i don't speak russian tho so i can't help much

>>78042804
Yes, English. My first English class was in school twelve years ago or so. It just takes time. I don't have guidance because I was a kid when I learned the basics and I don't remember much, and then at an intermediate level all that I really needed to do was read books, talk with people, and look up finer points of grammar.

>>78047574
C1/C2 is common for us western/northern Europeans.

I think he meant other languages.

>>78047986
*in English I meant

>>78047362
Thank you

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>>78047574
>twelve years
I wonder if it will take me 12 years to be fluent in Spanish

did duolingo remove its flashcard feature?

>>78048537
tinycards is up

>>78048419
Only if you keep at the pace regular people go, of accidental exposure and little proactivity.

If you are actively pursuing it, you can learn Spanish in 600 hours. Have you ever thought about learning a language under a year? Then put in 2 hours a day. Of course that applies only to easier languages.

What language shoukd I learn /int/????

French Spanish or Italian?

Im thinking French or Italian. I prefer Italian but French is way more useful....

>>78049809
Arabic, Hindu or Urdu. It's the future of your country.

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I'm gonna take Cambridge Proficiency later this year. Anything I should be aware of?

CPE is pretty much the "I'm the hot shit in English" certificate, right?

>>78049809
Learn French.
It will help you understand English better AND learning Italian after that would be easier, while the opposite doesn't quite work.

>>78047008
thanks :)
I'll meet those words while learning

>>78048537
It's apparently only there for some people and only in some languages. I was wondering the same thing a thread or two ago

>>78040215
No it's not

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>>78049809
romanian : ^)

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>>78051036
Tell me about romania. I want to visit some day.

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What's the point of learning others languages when you already know english and your mother tongue?

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>>78051078
here's a normie article with tourist attractions n shit http://www.boredpanda.com/romania-travel/

but historically, it's been a conquered shithole
centuries of various steppeniggers attackin beat the city life out of romanians
transylvania is the richest part, wallachia is where dracula ruled, loldova is shit

youngsters speak decent english
chicks fawn over foreigners so you'll catch tail even if you're an awkward fuck at home

do you want to know anything specific?

>>78051147
i have massive social anxiety and i'll be nervous if people talk around me and i can't pick it up

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>>78051213
>do you want to know anything specific?
Is there any cool dacian kingdom stuff still around? Do you support the reintegration of moldova into romania despite being a seperate state under both ottoman and soviet rule?
Ik that social anxiety feel too

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I WANNA LEARN SANSKRIT

FUCKING OMG WHY CANT I JUST DOWNLOAD IT INTO MY BRAIN

>>78051428
>Is there any cool dacian kingdom stuff still around
https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Monumente_dacice
da
>Do you support the reintegration of moldova into romania despite being a seperate state under both ottoman and soviet rule?
1. yes but it would tank our economy
2. you've got a slight misconception
think of the formation of romania like the union between england and scotland
ioan cuza became lord of moldova and was elected lord of wallachia, uniting the 2 principalities
i wish we kept the draculesti around as the rulers
anyways, modern moldova is a soviet invention and has less in common with the old one than romania

>>78051147
Not really. Only reason to learn a 3rd language is if you really like the country/ies that speak it.

>>78042513
Loanwords fairly often have the "э" pronunciation of "e", but this is not a rule. The distribution is mostly predetermined but is sometimes flexible. "E" means more accepted/assimilated.

Native vocabulary only has "e". However, certain sounds (the retroflex series and ц, off the top of my head) mandate the "э" pronunciation of "e" at all times.

Word initial E is never Э.

You need to know spoken Russian to be able to tell with the loanwords.

>>78047406
Hard "le" sounds HIGHLY unnatural and is only associated with recent loanwords from English.

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I've been studying French 10-15 hours a week since December of 2015, and only recently had I chosen to take a formal class at my college; I started the course five weeks ago.

I'm not particularly happy with how much I've accomplished, but I'm not too dissatisfied as well. I'm not sure where I stand at the moment. I can translate most French text into English without excessive dictionary-flipping, but going from English to French is killing me. My spoken French is inadequate as well.

Can a helpful Francophone critique what I had written in my exam? What can I improve on? I have another exam response, should someone ask.

>>78047406
I think there are patterns but for the most part you simply have to learn it

Luckily there's a fuckton of Russian pronounciations on forvo and wiktionary, so make sure to constantly use that (the best way would be to download them as mp3's and use them in an Anki deck, for example), and keep in mind also that stress can change places when a word is inflected/conjugated.

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>>78049423
I'm a turboautist so spending like 2-3 hours per day on Spanish. Thanks for making me feel better. I'm trying really hard.

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>>78052846
>describe your best friend

>>78052846
How was it picking up a class after studying on your own? How did you determine what level to start at? Seems like if you'd been studying for 10-15 hours per week for a year and a half you'd be very advanced.

>>78052846
well it's already corrected there's not much more to say about this text

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>>78053094
>implying you'll ever learn how to conjugate all verbs properly

>>78052846
Overall, you honestly did quite well. I'll make an exhaustive list of corrections, suggestions and explanations, but keep in mind that some of these are purely stylistic and superficial, or simply me pointing them out so you can know, but they're not exactly important (in other words, I don't want you to get the wrong idea and think that every single comment represents something outright wrong on your part, let alone something important)

>prenom
prénom*

>Le prénom de ma meilleure amie est
Gramatically this is perfectly acceptable, but two things:
1) most people would simply say "nom"
2) the most natural formulation is "Ma meilleure amie s'appelle"

>elle a des longs cheveux bruns [...] des yeux marron
When describing physical traits, the style typically changes slightly from the norm, as your teacher pointed out.

>serieuse
sérieuse*

>elle est d'Allemagne
The most natural formulation would be "elle vient d'Allemagne".

>Elle dit parfois qu'elle est française et parfois allemande
Here I disagree with your teacher, I don't want to spend too much time on this since it's a finer point of the language, but in dual enumerations you're supposed to maintain a certain symmetry between both elements (in exact usage of words, phrase types, tense, etc.), so better would be something like "Elle dit parfois qu'elle française et parfois qu'elle est allemande."

>qu'elle manque à son pays
Not much to say here, simply that your teacher's formulation is the proper way of saying "to miss", i.e. manquer à [the person who's feeling the "missing"]. When used in a sentence, this generally involves an indirect object pronoun, so a very typical example would be "Tu me manques", i.e. "I miss you". If you're at all familiar with Spanish, then it's a bit like the verb "gustar", i.e. a verb which simply functions differently from normal verbs in its usage.

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>>78053304
REWD!

Hey what's more natural to say for "What's your address?"
>Cuál es tu dirección?
or
>Que dirección tiene?

The former, right? The latter is more like "What address do you have for the apartment we are going to?"

>>78053304
Spanish verbs are ezpz

>>78053591
>>Cuál es tu dirección?
What's your address?
>>Que dirección tiene?
What address do you have?

Yeah, former. It's about which one sounds more natural. For example
"Cuántos años tienes?" Literal: "How many years do you have?" Sounds awkward and wrong in English, but in Spanish that's how we ask the age. We don't say "Qué tan viejo eres?" literally "How old are you?"

>>78052846
>>78053550
>apprendre les langues, et lire des livres classiques, et écrire des lettres
I'm not sure why your teacher suggested inserting that "et", to me it was fine the first time (though in French generally it's not recommended to maintain the last comma before the "et", unlike what some sources recommend in English).

>c'est une très bonne enseignante
This is a stylistic correction but what you initially wrote wasn't outright wrong, simply not the natural formulation

>mais elle s'appelle une écrivaine et une poéteuse
Your teacher's correction might not be clear to you, but basically the proper word is "poétesse" (for a male it's poète). As for the "elle s'appelle", this isn't a natural formulation in French (unlike English), better would be something like "elle se dit écrivaine et poétesse"

>Je serai le premier à lire son livre
This is simply stylistic, like in English (it's more natural to say "She's writing a book. I'll be the first to read it." than "She's writing a book. I'll be the first to read her book.")

>quand elle l'a finit
I'm not sure what your teacher wrote, but I'm guessing the correction is "quand elle aura fini" or something like that. Basically, unlike English you can't use the present tense for something future like that.

>les mêmes choses que j'aime
Technically this is correct, but as your teacher pointed out using the demonstrative pronoun "moi" is more natural. Even more natural would simply be "parce que nous aimons les mêmes choses".

>Et parfois
Try to avoid starting sentences with "Et"

>elle m'envoie des cadeaux, et en retour
another example where the comma isn't necessary

>je l'envoie
The verb "envoyer" is a bit like the verb "donner". The direct object is what is being sent/given, and the indirect object is the recipient. So "je l'envoie" actually means that you're sending her (i.e. putting her in a box and sending her to someone else lel). Therefore, "je lui envoie" is correct.

>>78053709
Thank you. I hear "Qué edad?" sometimes also for "how old?" is that right?

>>78054187
"Qué edad tiene?" is just a formal way to ask it. It's something you'd ask a senior person instead of "cuántos años tiene?"
It's like asking "what's your age?"

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>>78052846
>>78053550
>>78054079
And that's it for the list of suggestions/corrections. My concluding comments would be that there might be some work to do on some more stylistic elements, but that's obviously inevitable, and will improve with time if you keep practicing. But for the "core" language, you did quite well. I would recommend you keep getting more writing practice. You said that you thought your English-to-French writing was bad, but to me it seems like you're underestimating your own ability.

Also, is that story about Emily true? If so, you're lucky; I wish I had a qt German penpal.

>>78054246
Thanks!

>>78040927
Encore eût-il fallu que je le mette en bouche.

>Learning Devanagari to maybe learn Hindi.
>All going well. Cool script.
>Get to र ra.
>IT'S FUCKING TRILLED.

Why is is this bollocks everywhere?

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>>78053151
It was quite a polarizing experience around halfway through the curriculum, when we started going over things that I hadn't even thought of going over in the time that I had spent self-studying. Long story short: I needed language credits for a transfer to Stanford, so I took the opportunity to take a formal French class to supplement my studies; I started at Beginning French.

There's only so much that you can learn by yourself. There aren't many Francophones, if at all, where I live, so I hadn't much experience in spoken French. That being the case, my ability to write in French is absurdly lacking, at the moment. I consumed a lot of French culture as well, but that can only go so far.

>>78053550
>>78054079
>>78054266
I sincerely appreciate all those annotations. This is the kind of information that doesn't translate well in writing but only through trial and error.

With your being Canadian, are these points using Canadian French as a reference point?

Yes, the story's true. She sent me these books, along with a few caramels that unfortunately melted during transit.

>>78054555
If you're having a hard time with the trill, then make sure never to try your luck with Czech.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental,_alveolar_and_postalveolar_trills#Raised_alveolar_non-sonorant_trill

>>78054863
It's not that hard.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0J7dECyVic4

Also, vocaroo thread :
>>78054262

>>78054828
>With your being Canadian, are these points using Canadian French as a reference point?
Not explicitely so; the "standard" form of French (i.e. non-colloquial, so what school children write in essays for example) is more or less the same all over the world (obviously the same cannot be said of the colloquial forms of the language). There are still some differences, for example I think people here when compared to our European counterparts are perhaps more inclined to say something like "elle est une enseignante" rather than "c'est une bonne enseignante", though in my suggestions/corrections I tried to be as standard (i.e. France French) as possible.

All of the sources I've looked at have had different explanations of Farsi's guttural consonants. Wikipedia says that there is /q, G, χ, ʁ/, but I've seen sources that instead of the uvular /χ ʁ/ say that Farsi uses velar consonants /x ɣ/. Which is it?

>>78025096
is that Heisig shit serious?

>>78024681
>>78024441
>>78024357
Trying to lot learn italian for a year now. Anyone have flowchart for this?

>>78055082
As strange as it may sound, I'd be a bit cautious when using Wikipedia or any written source for the exact proper IPA transcription of phonemes for languages which don't have as many students.

For example, until recently Wikipedia said that ы was pronounced as /ɤ/ in Mari (and the textbook I'm using also has the same mistake, though its actual description of the sound is obviously correct), when it is in fact a schwa (and Wikipedia claimed that the letter ӹ was a schwa, which it isn't). I know for a fact that it isn't /ɤ/ since that sound is the Estonian õ, a very distinct sound. Finally someone recently fixed the Wikipedia page with a source which essentially just says "actually IPA transcriptions of Finno-Ugric languages tend to be shit lel".

>>78055288
please do not hesitate to improve that chart (or make a new one altogether) if you want to

And if you do, please include visible Japanese flags (like the other flowcharts do) so you can easily tell from the thumbnail what language it's teaching.

>>78055389
It's crazy that textbooks sometimes have errors. The Farsi/English dictionary I bought says that Farsi uses /J/ when it really has /i/

>>78055425
no, I mean I heard about mnemonics and Heisig before but it's the first time I've seen how it's done
when I was learning Chinese my teacher told me to write every Hanzi 20 times with its steps, which was a pretty shitty method. So I searched and found something called Imron's method, I can share that
https://pastebin.com/PJ6fu6bV

>>78055603
>J
huh, I wrote the Near-close near-front unrounded vowel, it must not be supported on 4chan

do non native english speakers have trouble with so many subtly different words in english? i feel like english generally has more words to describe things, and not just because i havent natively learned another language. maybe cause we've got both anglo saxon and norman words?

>>78055946
>do non native english speakers have trouble with so many subtly different words in english?
yes

>maybe cause we've got both anglo saxon and norman words?
i saw a video about that saying that french words were mostly used to look pompous, like instead of a "drink", you'd say a "beverage"

>>78056067
yeah i saw the same video, so words like beef and cow, or chicken/poultry. this video says the same thing at one point https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3ZJuCbklqg
i read somewhere that english has the most words of any language for this reason

>>78055389
I wish you lived in America, I could hire you just off your autism.

>>78055946
>maybe cause we've got both anglo saxon and norman words?
yeah this is indeed seems the case

For example, English has the words "jail" and "prison", which mean the same thing, only one is from French.

>i read somewhere that english has the most words of any language for this reason
By dictionary word count it doesn't, but by number of actually used words it seems to second only to German

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dictionaries_by_number_of_words

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>>78056578
I'll take that as a compliment, I suppose

Out of curiosity, what do you do (i.e. what do you hire people for)?

>>78056629
jail comes from the old french jaiole though

>>78056758
oh, my bad

Then perhaps a better example would be "fall" and "autumn".

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>>78055292
this
I know, I know, muh heritage and all that shit but it'll definitely be helpful.

>>78056741
I work for a boat manufacturer in engineering. I'm involved in the hiring of project managers and sometimes manufacturing employees. I tend to look for smart people that can just figure something out, rather than people with experience.

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Is there any other language apart from Chinese that has no word for Yes/No?
Chinese repeat back part of the question to agree to it.

Like if you said "Do you like pizza" they'd say "like" to agree and "not like" to disagree

>mfw trying to work out how the fuck to say yes or no when asked a question. When in English I can just say 2 simple words that work in every possible context.

>>78058668
That sounds really confusing. I was amazed to find Spanish doesn't have "Can you" and "Will you" .. they just have "Puede" which works for both. I always found a subtle but important distinction between "Will you" and "can you" - Will you meaning "I know you can, but I'm asking you to do it" and can you being "is this possible?"

>>78058908
It is

If you say "Can you speak English?" they'd say "Can"

"May I have that?", "May".

"You are Chinese?" "Am"

There is no "Yes" that can be used in all 3 contexts

>>78059032
Damn, I guess that's just one more reason why it takes longer to learn. You'll likely find a lot of that type of thing as you progress.

So what are some general language learning tips you guys have or use?
For example, I will always dedicate some time to writing down new vocab or grammar tips I learn. It's great and all to use a web or computer based flashcard system to learn vocab but I find the act of actually writing the word down will actually help me memorize it better. Doubly so for grammar rules and whatnot. Plus if I'm ever without wifi or my phone I have a physical copy of this stuff to practice with, in fact I normally have my language journal with me at all times in my bag.

>>78058668
>Is there any other language apart from Chinese that has no word for Yes/No?
Irish

>Irish has no words for "yes" and "no". The answer to a question contains a repetition (the same as in Latin) of the verb, either with or without a negative particle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_syntax#Questions_and_answers

>>78058668
lots of them
irish/scottish/welsh
latin ( which is how we ended up with the russian da)
ancient greek i think
japanese technically(hai and iie actually mean affirmative and negative, which i'm pretty sure are also used in chinese)
swahili
finnish(here the words exist)

it depends on perspective, since i think repeating the action affords more clarity

heck english had a 4 form system, depending on how the question was worded
Will he not go? — Yes, he will.
Will he not go? — No, he will not.
Will he go? — Yea, he will.
Will he go? — Nay, he will not.

>>78058668
they do have 对 (dui), which literally means correct that they use quite a bit as a way of saying yes in Chinese. but it can't be used in all the same ways that a simple "yes" can.

>>78059032
we have words for yes and no but theyre IE influence. for example question "osaatko tämän?" (Do you know how to do this) can be responded to with either "kyllä" (yes) or "osaan" (i can) but they both stem from "kyllä osaan" where kyllä is an archaic word for well as in i can do it well or do it gladly.

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>When you try and teach English to foreigners and you realise you don't know shit about the language you speak.

>>78055389
Ы is the equivalent of Õ. Not sure about mari, shouldn't be very different. Just don't worry about this stuff, it's complicated anyway and you'll pick it up as u go along.

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>mfw desperately tried to learn italian
You know, after a month or so, I think I'm good with English.

Thank you my Anglo overlords.

>>78059979
This becomes a further problem when I try to learn another language and don't know any grammar terminology beyond basics like "verb" or "noun".

>>78060136
>Ы is the equivalent of Õ
What are you talking about exactly?

For Mari it's often transcribed as such (though the more widely accepted transcriptions are ə̑ or ə), but phonetically speaking it's a mid central vowel (a.k.a. schwa), which is different from the close-mid back unrounded vowel (i.e. the Estonian õ).

>>78060294
Quitter. I'm basically retarded and still attempting a new language.

>>78060294
>expecting much after a month
where's your patience mate

Would it be a bad idea to try to learn French and Italian at the same time?

>>78060318
Had to look up what you meant by "mid central vowel", we don't have to really think about it, comes naturally lol.
But yeah, if it's anything like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAiAcTCNd-0

then that's definitely an Õ.

>>78060728
>>78060330
I don't know what I expected lads. You're right, I should get back into it.

>>78055655
The Heisig method is real (in a sense) and I think it would be better than what you posted. I learned to write about 2200 characters in less than two months.

The problem is many of the characters are associated to arbitrary English words that don't really help with the real language. And also hand writing isn't that important nowadays so if you don't keep it up you'll eventually forget how to write them even if you can read.

>>78060867
Just try to enjoy the experience. If what you've been doing up until this point hasn't been enjoyable for you, then try something new.

>>78060822
Probably the best example for how the mid central vowel sounds is the Wikipedia page (which has a very clear recording): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid_central_vowel

Or if you prefer, you can simply use a Mari word which has the letter ы, for example:
https://forvo.com/word/chm/%D1%82%D1%83%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%BA%D1%82%D1%8B%D1%88%D0%BE/#chm
Surely this sounds different from õ to you?

All of this being said, the confusion is understandable seeing as the sounds are relatively similar, to such an extent where even language scholars still seem unclear on it in some instances.

>>78061331
>to such an extent where even language scholars still seem unclear on it in some instances.
just to elaborate further on this, I'm talking specifically about Mari, i.e. some linguists in the past have transcribed ы as /ɤ/ (though the concensus now seems to be that it's /ə/)

>>78061193
>Just try to enjoy the experience.
Not that Burger, but that's what I do. It's going to take a while to learn so enjoying it is essential. Language learning is pretty comfy really.

>>78061108
it isn't a writing tutorial though, instead of associating you just embed it into your mind, so you deal with characters and not arbitrary english words
tbqh if should be a part of both japanese and future mandarin tutorials, so people can pick between the two

>>78061331
Well, yeah actually it sounds slightly different, a bit more O in it in this case so yeah you're right.
As you said already you can't be too strict on this. The pronunciation can vary even among native speakers - some people in Estonia for example might pronounce Õ more like Ö.

Don't worry too much, as long as you have a general concept of what it sounds like you're headed in the right direction.

>>78035080
totally, here we call it "muletilla", you also may listen "eh.." ,"esto..". In theory it's bad, but most people use it to fill voids.

>>78038384
barcelona amigo?

>>78030126
For me it was by listening things with the transcription in my hands several times until I could understand everything to the last word. Unironically closing my eyes make it easier.
Listening to people talking on the radio (music doesn't work for me) was also a big help. Have you tried radio garden?
Don't get discouraged though if you're like me that's the weakest competence but perseverance will get you through.

>>78061760
If you can fully visualize the character in your mind like you claim, you can write it. But it is much easier and important to be able to read a character than to write it.

Have you actually memorized more than say 500 characters with your method? You say "just visualize the strokes," well that might get a little tough when you have hundreds of other characters to keep track of too.

>>78063557
I don't think you read that completely, so no need to continue this discussion

Did the Mari guy get an answer from the station yet?

In Turkish how often would you use güzel as a compliment for things that aren't beautiful. Like my mother in law at one point said 'cok güzel' to mean delicious.

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>>78064890

>>78064890
very often
güzel fırsat : beautiful opportunity
Hava çok güzel : The weather is very beautiful
and so on

>>78065984
hey there yusuf-kun
does teleorman mean "crazy forest"?
it's one of the southern counties of romania
and a contender for the biggest shithole

>>78065666
nice digits canadian satan

>>78065984
I mean in those cases they make some sense in English as well. But if I ate something I would hardly ever say its 'very beautiful' instead of delicious.
>>78065666
wut

>>78066043
I assume that tele has some relation with Turkish word "deli", that's why it means crazy forest (orman=forest)
but in modern Turkish we never ever use tele
>>78066156
well then I take back what I said, apart from your example I can't think of any

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>>78064308
nope, nothing yet

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>One day I can watch native TV and get 90% of it, feel like I'm really improving
>Next day can't understand anything and feel like an idiot

>>78066156
>cock guzzel
>delicious
You said it, not me.

>>78068985
Ah, I spelled it a little wrong. It's çok güzel. The 'ç' is pronounced like more like ch. Means very beautiful.

>>78068572
How is that possible

>tfw don't know what language to learn
i may default to german

>>78069853
it's natural, had it when my english was worse

i still have better and worse days, but i understand 90%+ spoken words anyway now, just at some days i can catch harder shit easier

I'm russian and wanna learn English. Also can help you with russian.
iamcatloverrr gmail :>

>>78024357
can someone post the spanish one of these images.

>>78069901
it's a good choice

>>78069901
If you don't know why you are learning a language then you'll lost motivation and drop it.
Find a good reason, like that it could be useful for your work, interest in its literature, or just because you like it, but find a reason to do so.

>>78069853
I haven't practiced my German in 2 months and I can already see the drastic effects of it.

>>78070327
Чтo aнглийcкий ты need help with?

what do you unironically think about becoming an interpreter for a sports team, specifically football (soccer for amerifriends)?

>>78072787
If it pays well and fits the languages you know then why not? A job is a job after all.

German. Currently I'm trynna immerse by looking for children's TV programs on youtube. I've found one called Lummerland(?) featuring a couple of marionette puppets.

>>78069102
You need to get out of the mind-frame of English.
Çok güzel (or ne güzel for that matter) can mean beautiful, but it can also mean nice.
When you say çok güzel about food, you're not literally calling it delicious (lezzetli), it's just a set phrase that means 'Very nice.'

>>78072903
I suppose it would differ a lot between clubs but there's no way you don't get a decent house and a car if you do get the job
But to go there, you're expected to know, fully speak and fluently translate at least 3 foreign languages (english is a must, so it's more like english+L3+L4)
I'm thinking about doing five languages in total : Turkish (native), English (C2 fluent), Spanish (B1), French (A1) and Portuguese (didn't begin yet)

sorry for long personal blog, please share your opinions

>>78073138
Just following on from this, as someone who's probably at a B1 level with Turkish, if you plan on continuing with the language it's especially important that you get out of using English as the default, because there's a lot of (apparent) bullshit even at a beginner level that makes zero sense if translated into English, like case-markers for particular verbs that seem unintuitive by English standards

>>78073196
Do you enjoy learning new languages? If so then keep at it and aim for that job. It sounds like it has good benefits and pay. It seems like you'll be using the other two languages pretty frequently so I doubt you'll fall out of practice in them. The only question then is are you willing to put yourself through the effort of learning two, possibly three, more languages.
I guess you should also consider how open that job market is and how easy it is to retain the job. It would kind of suck to spend all that time learning a few more languages to not be able to find an opening, or worse yet, get fired not too long into it.

Anyone know what being a translator for the army is like?

>>78073051
If you revisit this thread, check out Jonalu. Stupid kid shit with some catchy songs. About mice and their insect friends doing adventures and stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNQNjGEY3VY

revive

>>78073196
I assume you have the connections and network to even begin with? It's not like some 4chan shutin is going to be offered to be the new translator for Fenerbahçe or whatever.

>>78074109
Yes. Do not do it. You will be abused by incompetent officers for far more hours than you should and will be second guessed constantly. Anything that goes wrong you will be blamed for even if its someone else's incompetence. If you are lucky you will opcon'd to a Psyop or CA team or an ODA, otherwise you will be an officers bitch the whole time while he shakes dicks with people. ~Former Psyop guy

nump

>tfw you sprain your ankle
Welp, guess it's time to start learning doctor/injury related vocab

Anyone know of any good German exercise book pdfs or sites?
Got a good grammar book, but the exercises in it are pretty shit.

Slow day today.

>>78083553
look for the german language learning pack and download the workbooks

>>78024312
>What language are you learning?
none, I'm an american and am nowhere near anyone that speaks anything other than English. if I wanted to tour big foreign cities there would be people that also know English because English rules the world

>>78086009
This wageslaving is really getting in the way of my language learning desu.

mgtow videos are depressing.

>>78089224
>mgtow videos
How exactly would one make a "mgtow video"?

Is it just scary stories about divorces?

>>78089313
Mostly they talk about how the human world is gynocentric, why traditionalism and christianity are cuckery, and how women are useless and you need to do everything for your own pleasure.
Also social Darwinism stuff where the majority of people are natural born slaves.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qWWxEZ5QAQI

>>78089538
>Turd Flinging Monkey
I'm sorry, but I'm not watching that

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>>78062511
Thank you.

>>78088716
>English rules the world
Globish*

>>78089629
>>78089690
prove it wrong

>>78089618
Whyn't?

>>78089714
>be american
>too lazy to learn other languages
>go to another country
>get stuck because you can't read the signs
>fumble for 10 minutes with a local that speaks extremely accented english
>don't understand much
>eventually make your way to tourist trap no.123122351
>prices are really high and waiters accept tips even tho they shouldn't but you justify it because it's international and shit
>take some generic photos
>never bother to interact with the locals, only other tourists and immigrants
>go home
>say that the country was awesome and that the locals were friendly
>brag about how you only need english on an indonesian sex doll connaiseur forum

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>arrivederci

>>78090248
bye

>>78090187
Do romanians understand russian better than english?
Ever been to Dobrogea region?

>>78090325
this country is highly r*ssophobic

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>>78089714
ok but you asked for it

>>78090187
you described a pretty worst case scenario. I would not be speaking with anyone I wouldn't have business with and would expect anyone I would to speak decent English. assuming they want my higher valued american dollars

>>78090619
b-but wan dollar iz ebout 0.80 yuroz

>>78090619
don't take it bad friend, I was just taking your bait

>>78090670
I did not realize romania got rid of their low value currency

Just leveled up on Duolingo

Does anyone here study linguistics? I'm starting my undergrad this fall.

>>78090619
It's more fashionable than ever to hate Americans. So I would expect less and less people willing to speak English with you.

America and France really have a lot in common now, they are countries that used to be looked up, got stuck up, and now are butthurt that people don't look up to them anymore yet still act like they should.

>>78090914
He's a baguette with a proxy.

>>78090939
Nicely done! What language?

>>78091066
I-italian
I'm here on holidays

Level 16 now

>>78091148
io capisco un po l'italiano desu

>>78091186
Anch'io

I rarely use it though
I did it a few days ago and people were surprised

>>78091040
I almost considered minoring in it. But the way the classes were spaced out it would've taken another 2 years to finish it (needed two phonology classes only one offered per academic year). So now I just read the occasional linguistics book/journal article.

Even my limited exposure to the field exposed me to all kinds of languages. The professors that aren't just theoretical linguists usually do a ton of empirical research on random languages they're autistically obsessed with. For example, one professor did his dissertation on some random tribal language in rural Mexico. He was also fluent in Mandarin. Most of the students I met in the program were also fluent in at least one other language (usually Spanish because USA) but there were a couple that spoke a ton of different ones (a lot of Chinese and Japanese speakers).

Really interesting field.

>>78091148
Beautiful. Have a great vacation. Are you finding you're picking up more being there immersed?

>>78091234
You should try to use it as much as you can while you are there and learn from it!

>>78091239
Yeah, the professors in my department seem to be really into their work.

>>78091266
Thanks.
Hard to tell, I know how important it is to listen to the language so I listen to the radio a lot at home, so I'm used to it.
And I know but I'm dating an Italian and we are used to speaking English, it's more important to understand each other than for me to practice a language.

>>78091239
where do they even get funding to do that sort of work?

I come from the world of engineering, so getting funding for research is generally not too problematic, but I can't imagine that there is that much money being thrown for people to study obscure Mexican tribal languages.

>>78091458
It's not the same thing, but there are tons of scholarship opportunities for learning certain languages, for example I'm probably going to get a scholarship to study Persian. There's a fair amount of money going around in the field. A lot of it comes from governments, and a lot of the funding for field work comes from EU governments.

>>78091449
Waa? Seems like a gf would be perfect for Italian practice. Try and speak both, tell her you want to get better, she'll probably like it.

>>78091573
I'm the only one that cares haha

Turns out the US version of the Uncharted colection for the PS4 has fully voiced and subtitled portuguese (also german, french, and spanish but I can't vouch for their quality)

$15 for three great games with hours of high quality portugese, pretty easy to understand with in game context at an intermediate language level as well.

>>78091449
You only really need to understand eachother when talking about eachother. When talking about random shit, you can be talking chinese.

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I can't wait to have my first real conversation in Spanish. Right now it's really bad when I talk and can only get little strings out.

Sometimes I dream about talking to Spen.

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I now have some twenty songs in my Mari playlist

Despite my initial expectations, I'm actually starting to enjoy their version of pop-folk, it's strangely addictive.

>>78091040
Pure linguistics? I've taken a few courses on Linguistic Anthropology and have a few books laying about.

Sup, i'm russian and wont to learn English. I have reading and listening skills at medium level, but terrible at writing (and grammar), speaking, don't know synonyms.
So, I dunno what to do. Obviously, I should talk a lot, but i'm not that kind of person, I don't know what to say even in my mother language.

>>78094588
>So, I dunno what to do. Obviously, I should talk a lot, but i'm not that kind of person, I don't know what to say even in my mother language.
I know that feel

I'd say that the best thing to do in your case is probably to simply continue practicting by posting on 4chan, and maybe trying to find a penpal or something similar. It won't improve your spoken English, but at least you'll be more comfortable with communicating your thoughts in English.

>>78094588
I can help you with UK english if you'd like a conversation partner. I'm learning russian and am intermediate.

>>78093554
Hola

>>78095345
Hola! I mean IRL tho desu.

>>78093982
I'm majoring in linguistics with a concentration in comp sci.

>>78093819
Post some

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>>78093819
What made you want to learn Mari leafanon? Do you plan on going there in the future? It's for the mari qts isn't it

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>>78096227
better pic
almost all of them look borderline retarded tho

>>78096227
he said it's his autism
and austrian krautism got his resources for it

>>78096402
He's going to give the Mari genepool the enriching it needs.

>>78096007
I wish I could, but for whatever reason they never upload them on Youtube. They don't even offer them for sale, they just post them on VK, or in some cases they don't post them anywhere at all and they simply play on the radio.

I suppose I could think about uploading some on youtube myself, but I'd have to create an account just for that, and make videos out of the songs, not to mention that it feels a little wrong doing that.

>>78096227
>What made you want to learn Mari leafanon?
autism (figurative, not literal)

>Do you plan on going there in the future?
Maybe some day, for that to happen though I would preferably need some sort of contact(s) there, and preferably a decent grasp of the Russian language as well.

>>78096402
I wouldn't say "borderline retarded", but it's true that many of them have something of an uncanny look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMS2OrSuKlE

What do the different levels of fluency in languages refer to concretely? Stuff like beginner, conversational, business, fluent, native.
Especially business. At what point does a language ability become "business-ey"?

>>78097226
I think business-ey you might have basics down, and then a more diverse vocab within your industry. So maybe someone who makes cars might know a bunch of car vocab but if you start to talk to them about cooking they don't know that as well. So perhaps a B1 level general language with a C1 level just in that industry.

>>78097226
I rate myself as business level for Portuguese.

I can give prepared presentations and lectures, and answer uprepared questions during/after. I can have phone calls about a topic but without preparing what I'm going to say. But I have trouble watching TV/middle level novel reading or understanding side conversations not spoken to me directly.

>>78094746
I guess you're right, but on 4chan nobody would point to mistakes I do, and that's sad.
>>78095038
We can help each other, it's cool, I want to try. Here my mail: pikusenya@gmail.

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>>78096227
she looks like a semen demon
>tfw no mari gf
>>78096913
>blonde haired blue eyed master race

>>78094588
If you want to learn synonyms for words you already know, you can always look them up in a thesaurus, like
http://www.thesaurus.com

>tfw you find a news show in your target endangered language

I'm so happy anons! Too bad the subtitles are in Danish

>>78098543
Thanks, but i dunno how to learn them. Maybe try Anki?

>>78098570
>endangered language
>the subtitles are in Danish
North Greenlandic? East Greenlandic?

>>78099097
Yeah, a Canadian anon's memeing convinced me to learn it. It's going pretty well but unfortunately the dialect I'm learning wasn't specified so I'm hoping they're all intelligible with each other

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>tfw you don't study your target language that much anymore because you waste way too much time on /int/

>>78099313
Yeah that was me lel

I was just surprised because you said "endangered language", and I didn't think of West Greenlandic as being endangered (or at least, the Greenlandic poster I asked the question to years ago didn't think his language was endangered), so I thought maybe you went even more autism-mode and switched to one of the other dialects.

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>>78099381
>tfw

I am interested in Classical Latin, but I'd also like to have a modern romance language under my belt before doing so. Should I learn Italian? I assume that's the one closest to latin that is still widely used today.

>>78099381
>>78099944
why not just go posting in /rus/ and/or /ex-ussr/? this way you combine language learning with funposting on /int/

>>78099381
Thankfully I don't enjoy /int/ apart from this thread.

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>>78101116
People are kind of civil here which is weird.

>>78100615
My Russian is really bad desu. I could try I guess... That makes me think you mustn't get that much immersion with Mari

>>78101489
>That makes me think you mustn't get that much immersion with Mari
indeed, but honestly it's not as bad as you might think

For some reason there's actually quite an musical community in Mari (which is why the radio station website is so important), there's also a couple of newspapers published online, some tv shows (all available on youtube) including local news, some books, and some semi-active pages/groups on VK which I might try communicating in once I'm more comfortable in the language. There might also be a speaker or two on interpals or some other similar site, though obviously there's no guarantee, maybe I'll try finding out at some point.

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So you know those fluency rankings (a1-c1, I don't know their actual name)? Is there a test or something to determine where you are exactly? I've learned German in a very haphazard way (brute forcing grammar/vocab and then moved on to simply consuming the language through books, tv/movies, shitposting online) and am not sure where I stand exactly. I can read very well but I feel I'm low-intermediate everywhere else. A test would be a helpful gauge to see what I need to work on exactly.

>>78103888
>(a1-c1, I don't know their actual name)?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_European_Framework_of_Reference_for_Languages

>Is there a test or something to determine where you are exactly?
There isn't a single universal testing mechanism, it depends on the exact language and country/institution.

But this might be a good place to start:
http://www.goethe.de/lrn/prj/pba/bes/enindex.htm

>>78104294
Interesting, thanks for the links. Based on those descriptions my reading ability is somewhere around b2/c1 while writing/conversing around a2 (though I am hesitant about self-diagnoses/self-reporting).

Will look around to find a possible exam to take or exercises at the various levels to serve as an adjunct test.

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hourly bump

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Time for some Michel Thomas before bed. Just a little icing on the study cake for the end of the day.

>>78108447
Good night bebe

Ne meurs pas, enfant de chienne.

>>78024312
anyone know where i can learn afrikaans for free?

>>78110575
Learn Dutch and you already know 95% of Afrikaans.

>>78111069
oh ok

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>48 hours later
>still no reply from radio station

why is spanish so hard bros

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This faggot keeps trying to take my #1 spot on my Duolingo club's leaderboard and I'm enough of an autist to get annoyed and reclaim it as soon as I see it.

>>78112420
Why would you need texting a radio station, Aqua?

>>78114942
That's Mari-anon. The only radio station in the Mari language available went down so he emailed them about it and is waiting for a response.