I still have no idea what the fuck was their problem

>>78016983
They wanted to remove commies but you were on the way

>>78016983
butthurt from losing WWI

they wanted your land and replace you with germans, good think you survived

>>78016983
its a mystery
but luckily they were defeated and we can live in peace now

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>>78017159
>we can live in peace no-

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>1939
>PARTY ROCKERS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT

>>78017068
this + butthurt at being an empirelet

>>78016983
Lust for power and fueled by this >>78017068

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>we declared war on the entire world by ourselves (except with a couple of completely powerless and useless allies)
>in the process, we proudly committed the Rape of Belgium, had a policy of sinking all civilian ships and were the first to use chemical weapons, despite it being banned by international law
>we lost said war and had to deal with some very modest consequences
>this must be the jews' fault!
how fucking deluded can one people possibly be, holy shit

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>>78017159
>

>>78017344
polish people are noble savages and it is german burden to bring civilization to the polish man

>>78017525
Or maybe, just maybe we can leave them in their own filth like every other normal country would do.

>>78017254
>Rape of Belgium
unfortunate
>had a policy of sinking all civilian ships
Lusitania had ammunition cargo in it though
> were the first to use chemical weapons
France
>despite it being banned by international law
don't think the Geneva Convetion even mentioned that desu. You know what subject it touched upon? Blockading an entire country from getting food.
>had to deal with some very modest consequences
top kek

>>78017574
Nein!
Am deutschen Wesen soll Polen genesen

>>78016983
If you take a closer look literally EVERYONE having any power in the 3rd reich was either a manlet, obese or ugly.
Those people were bullied from childhood, through childhood and probably early adulthood.
Nazism was just a massive beta uprising that had it's tool in the millions.

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>>78017874
Hmmm yes hello.

I hate Germans

In fact, most of the world does

>>78017885
Literal mongoloid who was a total edgelord because he got bullied for looking like a Jew.

>>78017874
So this is why 4chan loves it so much?

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>>78017909
t. insecure obese nigger

>>78017885
His face looks like he got the south american head binding treatment and is already balding in his 20s, come the fuck on

>>78017904
Wtf? Is that true?

>>78017965
It really isn't.

>>78017904
Hello cuckservative

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>>78017904
Only Angl*s hate Germanbros

>>78017904
Ha I knew it.

>>78017965
sadly it is true
whenever i visit another country, i pretend to be austrian so people dont spit in my face

>>78017904
Excellent post

>>78017912
My theory suggests that.
It's always the social outcasts that firmly believe in superiority of nazis and are convinced that living under hitler was some kind of paradise.

>>78017939
It's literally true. Furthermore, you're a disgrace to your country and ancestors, and I hope they would be ashamed of you.

>>78016983
That shape of a country is pretty aesthetic, desu.

>>78018009
This, but with switzerland

>>78018023
>implying it wasn't
It's because your country isn't filled with Africans yet, you aren't very nostalgic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnth6StLVu8

Half the banter I have in my intellectual circles relates to German autism in WW1, WW2 and the Migrant Crisis.

We laugh at these docile dogs. It's good they won't be around in a century.

>>78017574
Why can't you guys just do it though? If you have so much contempt for the Poles, why not just let them be and limit your contact to the minimum necessary import-export relationship?

>>78018044
My ancestors wouldn't tolerate a single nigger in this country so no probably not

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>>78017874
The commies are the same and always have been.
Bunch of mostly middle to upper-middle class disappointments to their parents who manage to convince enough people that their problems are everyone else's and you wind up with people who couldn't even manage their own lives in charge of everyone's.

>>78017775
>unfortunate
and deliberate

>Lusitania had ammunition cargo in it though
Lusitania wasn't the only example

Germany literally had a POLICY of sinking EVERY SINGLE SHIP, even hospital ships carrying only civilians and nothing else.

>France
France used tear gas first (i.e. what police forces still use today). None of the countries at war considered tear gas to be a violation of the Hague Convention. Germany was the first to actually violate said convention.

>don't think the Geneva Convetion even mentioned that desu
Hague Convention, 1899, which Germany had signed and ratified.

>You know what subject it touched upon? Blockading an entire country from getting food.
This is simply wrong. Even today, blockades aren't illegal, the UN Security Council has the authority to enforce blockades. Blockades have ALWAYS been "sometimes legal, sometimes illegal", there has never been any sort of clear legal concensus.

>top kek
Considering everything they did, and considering that they kept their country after the war, yes, it was pretty modest.

>>78018075
obsessed

>>78017965
>>78018009
Err, I don't think that's true at all. At least here in Norway virtually nobody hates Germany. Nazi Germany is thought of as a kind of a different Germany. The current Germany is respected just like most other countries.

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>>78018132
It's only an Anglosphere thing.

>>78018132
Quisling.

Did they really wanna genocide the poles or was it "muh" clay?

>>78018100
You're talking about modern communists ie. edgy teens in their rebel years.
I'm talking about actual nazis back in the day.

>>78017904
Actually, we were the single most popular country in 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/01/20/these-are-the-worlds-best-countries-sorry-america-youre-number-4/

>>78018075
>We laugh at these docile dogs.
Same here.

>>78017525
>>78017574
FÜR DANZIG

>most of the world views u.s.s.r. as a bigger threat than germany
>poland is your natural ally in war against the u.s.s.r.
>britain appeases you with the hope that you'll lead an anti-soviet war
>ally with the u.s.s.r., invade poland and end up in war with britain
>declare war on the u.s.s.r., lose and give them half of europe

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yes

>>78018214
>French naziboo
lel, he's been chased out of /fr/ for his pathetic pro-krautnigger cuckoldry, and so now he's instead spamming it in other threads

pathetic

>>78018132
Norway isn't the entire world tho

>>78018282
gdańsk*

How does one stamp out the German menace?

>>78018319
wtf are you talking about

>>78018319
Kek. Even in the circle of social outcasts stormniggers are social outcasts.

>>78018312
holy shit, perfectly summarized

>>78018325
No, but I've never experienced that people from other countries hate germans.

>>78017254
Wilhelm was a good boy. he dindu nuffin
>>78018331
Teutons would like a word with you

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>>78018342
should've let the slavs finish the job

>>78016983
>be Nazis
>have essentially free reign in choosing your post-victory borders
>decide on that shitty mess
Also the Nazis should have focused on Germanising HRE territories in the west rather than the e*st, which they simply should have dominated rather than attempting to colonise tbqh.

>>78018372
I don't know anyone here who doesn't hate Germans. In my local village we always give German tourists wrong directions when they come here, you can spot them a mile away with that dire accent and general meekness.

>>78018404
>Teutons
who?

>>78018357
I didn't even post the picture kek, he's probably a butthurt Anglo-Canadian
>>78004194

>>78018418
my ancestors ;)

>>78018480
yours too :^)

>>78018437
Then I'm guessing it's a british thing to do.
However I would say that Germans will be hated a lot more in the future when they destroy all of europe by letting Merkel stay another 4 years.

>>78018372
That's because they don't say it to your face, just like whites don't say "I hate niggers" or "I hate muslims" irl. It's a mix of being coward and being polite.

>>78018498
Fair point.

>>78018423
How would one go about germanizing netherlands, belgium, and switzerland?

>>78018463
First of all, that leaf isn't me

Second, I had assumed you were the French poster always spamming /fr/ with naziboo shit (who consistently gets told to fuck off) seeing as that style of image is exactly the kind that he would post.

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>>78018418
Fixed

How did the land of poets and thinkers fall for this? Prussia was a mistake.

>>78018546
I know it isn't you, you don't seem like a friendly Québecois

>Second, I had assumed you were the French poster always spamming /fr/ with naziboo shit (who consistently gets told to fuck off) seeing as that style of image is exactly the kind that he would post.
Are you autistic? There were at least 5 "naziboos" for 2 autistic kikes this morning, and I wasn't even posting (just like you apparently)

>>78018437
Brits are truly the best people in the world

>>78018587
kek

>>78018510
I guess you have a point about the brits, but most people around the world understand that you're no longer nazi germany. I believe you guys hate yourself a lot more than the world does.

>>78018009
I had this pulled on me in a hotel bar in Chicago once...claimed to be from Luxembourg....lol

>>78016983
the call of the blood

they didn't really know themselves, they just followed the call

>>78018630
Then you are wrong.
Brits are only first level in that category.

>>78018588
>Prussia was a mistake.
How

>>78017874
homos too, SA was full of them

>>78018537
Switzerland is already mostly German, and the Netherlands could be let be under the guise of being "Germanic". Lorraine, Franche Comte and Belgium would be harder to Germanise, but assuming the Nazis are willing to be as cruel to the French as they were to the Slavs, it would be doable.

>>78016983
Have you ever seen a German woman?
You'd rather go to war than sit at home with Helga if you were Kraut as well.

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>>78018723
(you)

>>78018696
Maybe I'm wrong but at least I'm correct about Norway. How do you know that the rest of the world hate you?

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>>78018702
>mfw the alt-right today is filled with homos as well

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>>78018739
If they're so great, why did Hans prefer nice French girls?

>>78018263
Polls don't represent the people at all you dumbnut

>>78018122
>Germany literally had a POLICY of sinking EVERY SINGLE SHIP,
Literally only happened because they were being blockaded by Britain. They declared the North Sea to be a military battlefield, later in the war Britain even disguised some military ships as merchant ones, and this incident with Lusitania only serves to prove that even the civilian ships weren't always so civilian after all
>This is simply wrong.
Their entire population was starving because of the blockade later in the war, chemical warfare was extremely inefficient and even could backfire, most of its power was psychological. A military blockade is fine, but not when it's deliberately done to harm civilians this much
>and deliberate
The soldiers were paranoid, that's never as good thing. Put yourself in their position: what would you do if you were told the civilians in an area you were occupying were all heavily armed and ready to resist you?

>>78018702
(citation needed)

>>78018784
who knows, it's not a problem to marry between Europeans though, it's not race mixing with monkeys

>>78018723
German gals weren't all that bad at the time desu. This is a reason for the British imperialism though.

>>78018782

Name one.

Inb4 you name people not in the Alt-Right

>>78018224
>Did they really wanna genocide the poles
Partially. They wanted to replace most of Poles with Germans and Germanize the rest (hence a giant action of kidnapping Polish kids). They also attempted to completely wipe out Polish intellectual elites. The remaining ones would be turned into a nation of brainless slaves to the Master Race.

>>78018810
are you talking about WWI, perhaps?

>>78016983
lebensraum for food production

>>78018827
Greg Johnson aka Grindr Greggy

>>78017874
Sounds like paradise.

>>78018781
Media, comments by normal common people on the internet, news articles

>>78018815
>
Rohm and his buddies, Hitler knew this well

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>>78018739
You know it to be truth Pierre.

>>78018869
idk, he got rid of them anyway

But the SA were very efficient to beat the shit out of the commies

>>78018860
>Media, comments by normal common people on the internet, news articles

It would be smarter to base your opinions on representative statistical surveys instead of mean youtube comments.

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>>78018880
French girls can't get enough of that BKC

It's okay though, because Pierre likes to watch

>>78018841
Yes

>>78017904
Bingo, and that's why we hate ourselves

>>78018921
oh yeah well I missed the discussion above, sorry

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>>78018920
It was maybe a Frenchman

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>Danke for letting me watch your girlfriend, Pierre. Truly you are my Aryan bruder!

>>78018860
Perhaps your media is treating you as if you are still the bad guys, posting articles whenever there is something negative to say about you, whenever there is something about your history and so on? Maybe your media is so leftie that they want to remind you of your past all the time because of the left-oriented agenda that they have? Maybe? What do you think? I surely do not know. But knowing how it is in Norway, it's kinda hard for me to believe that you are treated so differently in other countries. Why would Norway be so unique in that regard? We were after all occupied against our will, and yet today we see Germany as friends.

>>78018923
you're pathetic though

>>78018588
Like that pole said...some eccentric austrian autist manlet......REEEEEEDDDD the whole area up

>>78018906
>better read these biased robotic polls who pander to my positive worldview than personal comments from normal people

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>>78017159

>>78018880
Its almost like the average woman is not a super model

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>>78018920
Polish girls can't get enough of the BKC either it would seem.

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>>78018607
>friendly Québecois

>>78018989
And?

>>78018810
>Literally only happened because they were being blockaded by Britain.
yes, and? A blockade is legal, whereas sinking civilian ships on purpose isn't.

>later in the war Britain even disguised some military ships as merchant ones
No, "later in the war" they simply used the convoy system, which effectively killed German's u-boat strategy.

>Their entire population was starving because of the blockade later in the war, chemical warfare was extremely inefficient and even could backfire,
They first used chemical weapons WAY before the turnip winter. It had nothing to do with hunger, they were simply running out of ideas for how to break through on their various fronts, and so they turned to chemical warfare.

>A military blockade is fine, but not when it's deliberately done to harm civilians this much
The primary aim of the blockade wasn't starvation, initially they didn't even know the war was going to last long so the idea of starving Germany wasn't at all in their early objectives. The blockade was to prevent Germany receiving supplies, materials and foreign manpower.

>The soldiers were paranoid, that's never as good thing. Put yourself in their position: what would you do if you were told the civilians in an area you were occupying were all heavily armed and ready to resist you?
wow, it's almost as if people don't like being invaded by a foreign power which aims to absorb your country into its sphere of influence

I mean, seriously, do you realize how ridiculous you sound right now? "We invaded a peaceful nation and occupied them, and proceeded to commit atrocities against civilians, but it's okay because some of them were resisting".

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>>78016983
Nazism was pretty much beta uprising

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>>78018995
THEY REJECTED MY APPLICATION TO THE ARTS SCHOOL
NOW I WILL PAINT WALLS OF THEIR HOUSES WITH BLOOD

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>Jaques, we need to requisition your wife to help keep the boys' morale up!
>It's the price to keep Evropa safe from Judeo-Bolshevism, Sieg Heil!

I wish lend lease wasn't a thing and we stayed neutral in Europe. We joined the wrong side of the war, even Patton fucking knew it

>>78019029
>girls
that's a granny

>>78018996
>anecdotes from random internet comments that feed into my personal insecurities have more statistical potency than scientific surveys from reputable news organisations and universities

Really now? Is this how you live your life?

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>>78019104
Fucking americunts always ruin everything

>>78019104
>We joined the wrong side of the war
Why
>even Patton fucking knew it
[citation needed]
He acknowledged that Russians are as bad as Krauts, he never said that America fought "for the wrong side".

>>78019130
Clearly the girl to her left isn't.

beta country sperging out, quickly put down by the Alpha Allies

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>>78019152
C'est la vie, mon ami...

>>78019206
Ameriniggers were hated here because monkey soldiers raped some women

>>78019163
the girl's not the one giving him a drink

>>78019184
>quickly
kek

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>>78018819

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>>78019221
I wish some French girls hated me like this, desu.

>>78017904
ΚΑΝΤΟ ΞΑΝΑ ΒΟΜΒΙΣΤΗ ΧΑΡΙΣ

>>78019132
You know who they ask for these polls?
Upper middleclass leftists, liberal students and women who happen to be vegetarian. These are the same people who would say "ISIS soldiers are just misunderstood and need to be rescued from their evil masters"

>>78019223
The girl is too scared to do anything for fear of embarrassing herself in front of him.

>>78019184
>the Alpha Allies
Commie USSR, Ameritards and sneaky Anglos. Wew, Europe was really saved.

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>>78017904
BEADY

>>78019309
You know what really would've saved Europe?

No Hitler.

>>78019132
>polls can't be faked nonono the world LOVES us

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>>78018830
What a shitty thing to do...you know the more I hear about this Hitler character the less I like him

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>>78019412
Yeah man, Europe is doing pretty great without Hitler... Go eat a burger, you fat autist.

>>78019289
>You know who they ask for these polls?
People from various socio-economic, geographic and backgrounds. That's why they call it 'representatives', you know.

You probably don't even know what sinus-milieus are.

>>78019414
>Reputable news and poll organizations would just fake inaccurate surveys in order to jeopardize their whole business

Lol, only a conspiracy nut would believe this.

>>78017904
Only people from sites like 4chan hate germans because it's le ebin maymay.

Normal people don't carry such hard feelings over actions done in past. But god i wish brexit backfires and your whole rotten cryptopakistan starves.

>>78016983
what country is this? strange shape.

>>78019412
No American influence, no communism, therefore no shitskins and no kikes.

Europe populated with European people and ruled by European people.

>>78019444
>starts completely unnecessary war by allying with u.s.s.r. destroying most anti-commie country in europe
>loses and gives half of europe to the u.s.s.r.
>discredits all nationalism, west bends over backwards to prove they aren't him

wtf i love hitler now

>>78019553
And you will never have any of that that, thanks to Hitler.

>>78019554
>loses
Thanks, America
>discredits all nationalism
Yours is cucked civic nationalism anyway

>>78019525
Don't pretend you kniw anything about the world. You're literally on 4chan now.

>>78019605
>Thanks, America
Most Americans didn't want a war until he conquered your country and declared war on ours.

>le cuck maymay
>>>/trash/

>>78019049
you should kys

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>>78019554
>starts completely unnecessary war by allying with u.s.s.r. destroying most anti-commie country in europe

True and false at the same time. He wanted to ally Poland but they didn't want it. He wanted to ally Britain and France but they didn't want it. Not much he can do besides that. Albeit it's true that he should have just bided his time and made stronger connections to the anti-commie nations like Britain before initiating his invasion. That was stupid of him, I agree.


>loses and gives half of europe to the u.s.s.r
Not really his fault. He lost and I already explained why, but the second thing is definitely not something he can be blamed on.

>discredits all nationalism, west bends over backwards to prove they aren't him

Again, how is this Hitler's fault?

>>78019660
You should have remained isolationist but ((they)) didn't want it to happen
You're literally a cosmopolitan shithole run by kikes and you doomed Europe to serve your own interests letting the commies take over half of it

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>>78019618
>Don't pretend you kniw anything about the world. You're literally on 4chan now.

Yeah? No shit. Doesn't change the fact that attitudes of even relatively large internet communities can't be taken to form any sort of actual picture of attitude towards anything. If you wan't some actual results go an start international or nationwide polls about the subject. Fucking dumb idiot.

>>78019688
>He wanted to ally Poland but they didn't want it
I wonder why they wouldn't trust him...?

>He wanted to ally Britain and France but they didn't want it.
Britain very much wanted it, hence the appeasement. France not so much.

>Albeit it's true that he should have just bided his time and made stronger connections to the anti-commie nations like Britain before initiating his invasion. That was stupid of him, I agree.
Now we're getting somewhere.

>He lost and I already explained why, but the second thing is definitely not something he can be blamed on.
Stalin would not have invaded Europe had Germany not given him the opportunity.

>Again, how is this Hitler's fault?
He started an unnecessary, unwinnable war and lost.

>>78019736
haha memes

>>78019497
>never question anything even though most people outside these polls outright hated on my people

Fucking sheeple retarded pieces of shit, I know it hurts but please get out of your safe bubble.

>>78019788
Britain in no way wanted an alliance with Germany, what are you talking about.

Winston Churchill was a belligerent warmongering drunk who invaded Iceland and prompted the world to total war on behalf of Jewish Investors.

The only tragedy here is that a man who loved his country and his race was defamed to be the most evil man who ever lived. This was done with reckless disregard for how it would impact future generations. For how it would impact all of us today.

If FDR and Churchill had minded their own fucking business we'd all be better off.

>>78019662
Umm no, or at least not yet

>>78019688
>He wanted to ally Poland but they didn't want it
He wanted to """ally""" under condition of us giving up on part of our land.

10/10 diplomacy, Hitler.

Also
>Europe before Hitler
>Scattered after WW1 but still relatively strong, imperialist and ruling the world

>Europe after Hitler
>Slowly losing power and colonies in favor of USA

Not to mention acting like an ape, burning entire cities out of pure autism, destroying monuments and libraries, stealing arts (aka ISIS 0.14).

Bravo, Adolf.

>>78019788
>Stalin would not have invaded Europe had Germany not given him the opportunity.

PFFHAHAHAHA

You know what's the sole idea of communism? Spreading it. Europe was Stalin's final frontier and by the time Hitler started barbarossa Stalin had mobilized his industry so heavily history experts think Stalin was ready to invade in 2-3 months.

>>78019849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEZJAMSKhow

>>78019752
>Yeah? No shit.
So everything that is real is the opposite of what you say
>Fucking dumb idiot
Do not talk about yourself so rudely
>>78019788
True memes

>>78019875
>Be Hitler
>Want to protect Europe against communism
>Poland is literally the only country separating your country from communism, and the last country that defeated advancing commies in 1920
>...
>Ally with commies and invade Poland together
Ayy

>>78017965
Yes , Stop digging holes in our beaches!

>>78019051
>>78019051
>A blockade is legal, whereas sinking civilian ships on purpose isn't.
And what is preventing, say, Britain from putting military supplies on civilian ships, like they did with the Lusitania?

>The blockade was to prevent Germany receiving supplies, materials and foreign manpower.
You'd be incredibly naïve or biased to believe a blockade in the 20th century wouldn't hurt civilians and military both, with how international trade became so relevant. Quoting the Red Cross:
>In consequence of the growing economic interdependence of States the blockade has become a most effective weapon. A ban on all trade with the enemy or with any country occupied by the enemy, strict regulations governing trade with neutral countries, and a extension of the idea of "war contraband" are measures whose object is to place the adverse party in a state of complete economic and financial isolation; such measures cause suffering to the population as a whole, as they affect combatants and non-combatants indiscriminately.

>No, "later in the war" they simply used the convoy system, which effectively killed German's u-boat strategy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-ship

>They first used chemical weapons WAY before the turnip winter.
You're sincerely

>"We invaded a peaceful nation and occupied them, and proceeded to commit atrocities against civilians, but it's okay because some of them were resisting".
I'm not saying it's okay, I'm saying it's understandable. I just hate this painting of "we were fighters of justice and freedom liberating the land from our evil enemies", every single country in the world has committed war crimes, every war is basically the upper class of a country's government working to defend their geopolitical interests.

>>78019973
Strategically it was pretty guud. granted Stalin would've taken poland sooner or later so why not come to terms with the guy for a while till you can deal with the west (which Hitler was truly inept at)

>>78019837
Britain supported Germany violating the Versailles treaty and annexing its neighbors with the hopes that they could contain the U.S.S.R.

>>78019875
Stalin cared about his own ass more than communist ideals. He was a cold, calculating, cautious pragmatist. He would never have risked invading your country or the Baltic states without Hitler distracting the rest of the world. Actually read about the man and tell me you think that's somebody who would start World War III and open his country to an Allied invasion.

>>78019849
Churchill was a "literally who" until Hitler's actions discredited the Chamberlain government and confirmed what he'd been saying.

>>78016983
banks? germany was going debt free and anglos didn't like that
all of hitler's pleas for peace were rejected, brits wanted war

>>78018739
why is the old hag checking out those bewbz so much

>>78019973

>be poland
>want to genocide germans of danzig
>wtf why did germany attack us

>>78019872
USA was rising in power since well before WWI, the two world wars only cemented that

>>78020097
>want to genocide germans of danzig
[citation very much needed]

>>78019788
>I wonder why they wouldn't trust him...?
I wonder why indeed...

>Britain very much wanted it, hence the appeasement. France not so much.
No, they did not. Chamberlain just wanted peace, not an alliance with Germany.

>Stalin would not have invaded Europe had Germany not given him the opportunity.
This has to be a joke. Stalin definitely wanted to eat part of Eastern Europe for himself and he would have done it if it the right opportunity had presented itself, as it did.

>He started an unnecessary, unwinnable war and lost.
This meme that it wasn't winnable is ridiculous. It was pretty much winnable, with a bit of luck. Things went wrong like the Battle of Britain, the Italian incompetence against Greece with delayed the campaign against the Soviets, Hitler not wanting to take Moscow, etc.

The war was very much winnable, it only became unwinnable after Germany and Japan declared war on the US.

>>78019872
C'mon man, I understand why you would hate Hitler but the territory he asked was reasonable and not that much. Furthermore, it's extremely likely that if Poland had allied him, he would have given them vast swaths of former Polish land. Poland just didn't want to ally Germany because Poland hated Germany as much as they hated the USSR due to their past history.

It really has nothing to do with any land or whatever, Hitler offered them an alliance and they refused. Also, the land that you're suggesting Hitler wanted happened way after he offered the alliance to the Poles and they rejected it. The rest of your post is simply not true.

>>78020097
>>want to genocide germans of danzig
lol

>>78020097
This

>>78020035
>granted Stalin would've taken poland sooner or later
Entire Polish military was prepared for facing enemy from the east, not from west, which is partially reason why it fallen so quickly in 1939. Plus Soviet Union in 30s was extremely weak after Stalin's purges, so literally nothing indicates what you just stated.

>why not come to terms with the guy
Instead of, you know, for example, helping Poland? Not even militarily, but at least by supplying it, or staying fucking neutral?

>>78020128
All the sources for these claims, afaik, are from German propaganda of the time.

>>78020046
>Stalin cared about his own ass more than communist ideals.

True but at the time USSR could've easily go for it. Could've they invaded US? don't think so but they could've protracted the war to a standstill. As you propably know allies had plans of attacking Stalin when he reached berlin but even then allied forces were outnumbered 4:1, if he so desired he could've driven allies back to the english channel in no time.

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>>78020097
>>78020152
>genocide germans of danzig

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>>78020182
So you think USSR had no expansion plans at all if Hitler never existed? You're delusional.

>>78019875
stalinism is not communism
its literally "socialism in one particular country" (stalin's "motto")

>>78020135
>I wonder why indeed...
What happened to the last country he bullied territory away from?

>Chamberlain just wanted peace, not an alliance with Germany.
Fair enough.

>if it the right opportunity had presented itself, as it did
Thanks again, Hitler.

>This meme that it wasn't winnable is ridiculous. It was pretty much winnable, with a bit of luck.
If by "a bit of luck" you mean "sane goals" and "a completely different strategy" then I agree.

>>78020046
>Britain supported Germany violating the Versailles treaty and annexing its neighbors with the hopes that they could contain the U.S.S.R.
Hardly an alliance. All Britain wanted was a Germany powerful enough to maintain the status quo in Europe. Once Germany started getting too powerful, Britain wanted it put down again. There is no way that Britain would have supported Germany in becoming the most powerful nation in Europe and a superpower on the global stage.

>>78020256
You can have all the plans you want, you need a way to actually make them happen.

>>78020289
>There is no way that Britain would have supported Germany in becoming the most powerful nation in Europe and a superpower on the global stage.
So what do you think Britain would have done when the U.S.S.R. invaded Europe, as many ITT are claiming it eventually would have?

>>78020320
>So what do you think Britain would have done when the U.S.S.R. invaded Europe, as many ITT are claiming it eventually would have?
It would have done whatever they believed at the time would be best for maintaining the status quo and balance of power in Europe.

>>78016983

They were a cause built almost entirely on warfaring and would have had no sustainable government even if they would have "won" in WWII.

>>78020372
So the U.K. would go to war against a non-Nazi Germany if they were too successful in repelling the U.S.S.R.?

>>78019993

Try to stop is then :^)

>>78020263
>What happened to the last country he bullied territory away from?
The situation is entirely different. Czechoslovakia didn't want to give any land, it only agreed to it because Britain and France told them that they won't protect them if a war breaks out, so they decided to lay low. The Czechoslovakian territory was necessary for the German arm industry and the future war against the Soviets, but the Czechoslovaks weren't keen on helping Germany. That's why he decided to just annex them afterwards. He sought a deal with Poland (a fairly reasonable one) but Poland didn't agree so what happened aftewards - happened.

>Thanks again, Hitler.
As I said, Hitler just delayed the inevitable. Stalin was eyeing European territories long before Hitler made the pact. That's pretty much the reason why Hitler went to war with the Soviets so quickly - he wanted to catch them by surprise before they were strong enough to deal with Germany alone.

>If by "a bit of luck" you mean "sane goals" and "a completely different strategy" then I agree.
No, I mean what I said. The war was pretty much winnable if Japan didn't decide to attack the United States and instead focused on subduing China. Roosevelt, no matter how keen he was on joining the war wouldn't have joined the war because the people didn't want to.

>>78020135
>but the territory he asked was reasonable and not that much
Again

>Propose "alliance"
>But only in return for part of your "ally's" land
Are you for real?

>Poland just didn't want to ally Germany because Poland hated Germany
Sanation actually was all for realpolitik and staying neutral with Germans, Piłsudski always saw Soviets as a major threat (as mentioned earlier). It was not until Hitler started demanding the exterritorial highway when the relations went to the shitter.
How did you expect the Polish politicians to accept such terms? The society would burn them alive.

Hitler was an autist and a retard.

>>78020256
What I'm saying is that they were a) too weak to invade us (at least in 30s) b) Hitler should have supported us instead of allying with them.

Stop avoiding the arguments.

>>78020425
I honestly don't know what they would have done in such a situation, sorry.

>>78020513
In 1934 Adolf Hitler sought an anti communist alliance with Poland against the USSR. He made the following conciliatory statement in the Reichstag - "We recognise with the understanding and the heartfelt friendship of true nationalists, the Polish state as the home of a great, nationally conscious people". His offers of an alliance with Poland which should have been a natural considering both countries were anti communist, were rejected. Pilsudski wouldn't even meet with the man to talk things over.
"Hitler unceasingly suggested a German-Polish alliance against the Soviet Union, but Pilsudski declined the proposal, instead seeking precious time to prepare for war with Germany or the Soviet Union if it was necessary. Also on numerous occasions, Hitler planned to meet with Pilsudski, and again he was rebuffed."

Hitler actually gave territory Czechoslovakian territory to Poland but Poland still wouldn't budge on an alliance and instead sought help from the UK and France.

>Propose "alliance"
>But only in return for part of your "ally's" land
None of this happened. The alliance didn't include any territories of Poland, it's only after Hitler decided that seeking an alliance with Poland is futile, only then did he decide to request Danzig and the corridor.

>Sanation actually was all for realpolitik and staying neutral with Germans, Piłsudski always saw Soviets as a major threat (as mentioned earlier). It was not until Hitler started demanding the exterritorial highway when the relations went to the shitter.
How did you expect the Polish politicians to accept such terms? The society would burn them alive.

Not true. Both of them didn't want to ally with Germany and instead geared up for an eventual war. That's because they didn't trust Germany due to their past history. Poland just hated Germany, didn't trust them and didn't want to ally with them on any pretext, same as the USSR. They preferred an alliance with the UK and France which they got.

So what do they teach you in Europe, that the Soviets single-handedly won the war?

>>78020715
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Polish_Non-Aggression_Pact

>Poland was able to maintain friendly relations with Germany for the next five years
>Piłsudski distrusted German intentions on the whole but perceived Hitler's origins as an Austrian rather than a Prussian as a mitigating factor and stated that Hitler should stay in power as long as possible
>German policy changed drastically in late 1938, after the annexation of Sudetenland sealed the fate of Czechoslovakia, and Poland became Hitler's next target. In October 1938, German Foreign Minister Joachim Ribbentrop presented Poland with the proposition of renewing the Pact in exchange for allowing the Free City of Danzig to be annexed by Germany and the construction of an extraterritorial motorway and railway
Again, Germany is entirely to blame.

>>78020715
>>78021005
Not to mention that we couldn't even decide the fate od Gdańk, as it was a Free City under UN's governance. So we could have only accepted the "extraterritorial motorway and railway" part.

Hitler was a double retard.