Sino-Russian military alliance in 2-3 years

>>77929058
>North Korea is about to emerge as a global nuclear player
That's fucking dumb.
China and Russia have their own nuclear arsenal and elevating a tiny country with an unpredictable leadership to become some kind of "global nuclear player" does not help them at all.

NK already has nukes and that's enough of a threat for publicity purposes of angering the US, giving them a greater role than that is not practical for Russia/China.

>>77929058
>Putin wants to reclaim the Baltic states
nani

also chinks have an eye on our territories so fuck them

They already tried this in the 50s and it didn't work. They were ready to nuke each other in 15 years.

There's no real friendship or mutual trust with dictatorships, only suspicion of one another. Nothing like the extremely close partnerships we have with Western Europe, Australia, Japan, and South Korea.

China don't give a shit about Russia or it's ambitions in Europe for China Russia is just a gas station.
It wouldn't be China's interest to have unrest in the West. Where would they sell their shit?

>>77929058
Even a ch*nk is taller than Pynja

>>77929366
tfw
we freed them from japs and they hate us now

>>77929058
>a land invasion of the continental United States would be feasible
literally impossible

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>>77929058

Check this out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation

The future belongs to the east

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>>77929058
>Putin wants to reclaim the Baltic states
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAXAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

cringy

int fedoras are the same as delusional kekistan polacks

they dont know at all about the reality of how fucking awful life there is

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Meh.

>>77929058
>North Korea is about to emerge as a global nuclear player.
Neither Russia nor China wants that. Kim is an irrational madman on the border who Russia never really liked and China only begrudgingly supported so they didn't have a pro-western unified Korea on it's border.

>>77929941
Is it that the cultures are too different, equal distrust of the other or from the hatred Mao and Stalin had for each other?

>>77930007
no ccp has made kim alive that way, zhang. this is all about ccp, and they are genuinely stupid. simply they wont stop exporting oils to nk because think nk is effective for geopolitcs

>>77930154
>no ccp has made kim alive that way, zhang. this is all about ccp, and they are genuinely stupid

I agree the CCP leadership aren't that smart or gifted at diplomacy. They know North Korea is a loose cannon and has the very real potential to cause a disastrous war in East Asia, but they're afraid to do anything about it because of the nightmare scenario of destabilizing the Yalu border and having hordes of refugees in Manchuria.

>>77930005
Lad sounds a little bit biased tbqh haha

>>77930289
>loose cannon
you still dont understand it. as i said the moment ccp stopped exporting shit to nk it totally falls apart, dies. ccp isnt afraid of anything but they actually have almost completely controlled nk. the nuke is ccps fault, completely, as drumpf says.

if nk actually began a war they could nuke beijing though, not seoul. this is what ccp has missed.

>>77930525

I heard some wild rumors that Japan is developing it's own nuke. You'd think it would make China shit so much bricks that they could build another Great Wall.

>>77930289
There's a lot of division of opinion on the North Korea problem in China. There are factions in the CCP who still believe in the Cold War orthodoxy that Pyongyang is an ideological ally and they sacrificed 800,000 men saving them in the 1950s. There are other factions who believe that North Korea is more trouble than it's worth and China should terminate all assistance to them.

There's also a generational divide, Chinese Millenials have little use for North Korea and often mock them on the Internet, old people are more likely to hold onto the 1960s belief of socialist solidarity. A certain degree of butthurt also exists in China over North Korea's non-acknowledgement of their help in the Korean War--North Korean history books make it sound as if Kim Il Sung personally defeated the US invaders.

>>77930043
Our cultures aren't different, after Stalin died USSR denounced his cult of personality and Mao wasn't too fond of that. Also it was 50 years ago, Russia and China are basically allies now.

>>77930525
>if nk actually began a war they could nuke beijing though, not seoul. this is what ccp has missed

Here's the thing--if North Korea did collapse or if they started a war with the South, China has contingency plans to invade the place, remove Kim Jong Un and friends, and install a totally compliant puppet government. The problem is, the Norks have massively booby-trapped the place to give any invading army some very nasty surprises--after all, they've had decades to prepare for invasion--and that includes their WMD arsenal.

So if push came to shove and China had to send troops in there and overthrow Kim, they're in for some pretty unpleasant surprises all due to their own passive, look-the-other-way diplomacy with Pyongyang.

>North Korea is about to emerge as a global nuclear player.
>Combined even (hypothetically) a land invasion of the continental United States would be feasible, albeit costly.
>Putin wants to reclaim the Baltic states
So, that's how it looks. Pure autism.

>>77930154
Work on your reading comprehension. I said that's why they support NK but they don't like the Kims

>>77929058
>>Russia and China collectively have the 2nd most well equipped and largest military respectively. Combined even (hypothetically) a land invasion of the continental United States would be feasible, albeit costly.

Thats the biggest load of bullshit I've managed to read on this godforsaken website in a long ass time.
Assuming economic progression, it's expected to take roughly 30 or so years for China to build a navy capable of challenging the US navy. Keep in mind that's the US's navy today, not US navy 30 years from now. And Russias navy is so underwhelming and has no real deployment capabilities, I dont see how combining them will make a difference.

Another thing to mention is the whole "Invasion of the US would be feasible" thing.
>As we saw with Russia, there is 'strategic depth' for a defending force to fall back to. The size of Canada (and to a lesser extent Mexico) is ls also an asset, as any hostile power attempting to invade by going through these countries would have incredibly long supply lines.
>Equally important, in modern times, is that anyone stupid enough to contemplate invading American would soon be forced to reflect on the fact it contain hundreds of millions of guns, readily available to a population that takes it life, liberty and pursuit of happiness very seriously. In addition to formidable US armed forces, there is the National Guard, state police, and as we saw on various occasions in 2015, an urban police force that can quickly resemble a military unit. In the event of an invasion, every US Folsum, Fairfax and Farmerville would quickly resemble an Iraqi Fallujah

>>77930683
>after Stalin died USSR denounced his cult of personality and Mao wasn't too fond of that
It was a lot more complicated than that. There were a lot of ideological and strategic differences, plus the Soviets looked down on the Chinese as backwards yellow dirt monkeys. Mao was unhappy that Moscow didn't accept them as an equal partner and he also rejected Soviet plans to establish a joint Sino-Soviet military command and station Soviet troops on Chinese territory. They thought Khrushchev sold out by not wanting to start World War III with the West and for promoting higher living standards over revolutionary militancy. Stalin had never wanted the CCP to win the Chinese civil war because he (correctly) divined that that China could become a rival for leadership of communism.

Also, imperial Russia had been a major player in the Chinese Century of Humiliation and Mao didn't forget that. He once said "The Soviet Union was built on the back of tsarist imperialism, they were not an oppressed, humiliated nation as we were."

>>77930873
>Work on your reading comprehension. I said that's why they support NK but they don't like the Kims

China tried couping Kim and replacing him with his uncle, who was on their payroll, the plan being to install a compliant puppet government in Pyongyang. The plan failed of course and his uncle got fed to dogs.

>>77930947
truly the US is blessed geographically, nothing short of a nuclear or civil war can really lose a war at home

>>77930525
They wouldn't nuke Seoul because the wind would blow the fallout into North Korea.

>>77931061
heh, i recall i saw some spoils taken from chinks when we participated in suppressing the boxers rebellion in the museum of my uni

>>77931159
>To the North, above the Great Lakes, lies the Canadian shield, the worlds area of Precambrian rock, much of which forms a barrier to human settlement. To the South-West, desert. Geography had determined that if a political entity could get to and then control the land 'from sea to shining sea', it would be a great power, the greatest history has ever known. Truly a rare geographical position of near invulnerability from conventional attack. The Prussian Statesman, Otto Van Bismarck in a remark said more than a century ago 'God takes special care of drunks, children and the United States of America'.

>>77929996
290 more sanctions

>>77930433
nahh, that J-20 is actually a propeller plane, don't worry about it ;^)

>>77931273
Russia also cleaved off pieces of Chinese territory during the 19th century (albeit mostly worthless territory nobody lived in) and removed Mongolia from Beijing's sphere of influence.

>>77929282
>>77929996
I'm sure there are a lot of people here in the Baltics stirring up this non-sense as well. Even my grandparents are pretty much convinced Russia will invade in their lifetime.
It doesn't affect daily life, but it's that attitude of "tsk tsk youngling.. you weren't there, you could not possibly have any idea about international politics.."

>>77932458
All baby boomers are the same regardless of the country.