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Is Japan part of Sinosphere?

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For example, Japanese surnames are unique to Japan.

China, Korea, and Vietnam have many common names.

For example the Surname 潘:
Korean:반
Chinese:ㄆㄢ
Vietnamese:Phan
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>>77850709
I don't see why not, to be quite honest.

Japan for most of its history was just a copy cat of Chinese culture.

inb4 "t. Zhang"

I'm not Chinese. I'm Arab.
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Yes.
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>>77850739
can't dispute history. like it or not japan has a lot in common with China.
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>>77850709
Do vietnamese last names come from chinese characters like china, korea, japan?
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>>77850709
>>77850739
>>77850773
>>77850784
>>77850820
Japan is white.
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>>77850739
Please elaborate yourself.
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>>77850820

No shit.

Nguyễn 阮
Trần 陳
Lê 黎
Phạm 范
Huỳnh/Hoàng 黃
Phan 潘
Vũ/Võ 武
Đặng 鄧

Also, Japanese surnames don't come from Chinese characters. Usually are native On-yomi toponyms
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>>77850709
>Chinese buddhism
>main writing system
>the fucking dresses
>confucianism
>Japan claiming it was the successor of China during the Heian period after mongols invaded
>insane work hours
>massive industrial pollution
>formation of names (family name, given name)
>everu fucking temple is based off of Chinese temples
>the literally most prestigious garden in Japan is based on Hangzhou's, just like 90% of traditional gardens in Japan
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asian_cultural_sphere

Hmmmmmmmmmmm no.
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>>77850870
From what I've read, Japan has always been trying to emulate its bigger brother, China. Up until the Meiji Restoration, which is when they went full-on Western.

Japanese architecture is hardly different from Chinese. Then you have the language. I've spoken to my Chinese friends and even they said they could read a good chunk of Japanese (kanji).

Finally you have cuisine, customs, traditions, etc.

All of that of course, heavily influenced by China.

The good thing about Japan is that unlike China, they didn't go full retard and were able to build a technologically advanced, respectable society that is miles ahead of even Western Europe in many regards.

Japan is a clean, polite, beautiful country that rose from almost nothing to building the largest battleships the world has ever seen.

In many ways they're like Germany. Good at modern civilization, but not very good with ancient history.
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>>77850950
That's actually not a bad assessment.
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>>77850938

Buddhism faith is import faith. Shrine pic related is native.

But even Japanese temple don't look like Chinese. Chinese is autistic orange color and such. Japan is graceful colors
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>>77850950

Wrong.

Japan began to not respect China after they got Khan'd by Manchus
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>>77850709
is it your embarrassment?
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Japan is only East Asian with respectful culture.

Other Asian is loud, rude and savage.

You might say Koreans are in between Japanese and Chinese in rudeness but that's because Japan civilized them in colinization
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>>77851085
This. Japan tought us monkeys the civilisation. Thank you sensei
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>>77850709
You are Chinese m8.
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>>77851202
You are Arab
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>>77851085
This
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>>77851048
[Citation needed]

>who was Togukawa Shogunate for 1000
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>>77851015
>literally orange/red just like China
>graceful color
Please exprain mrore prease

Pic related is LITERALLY based on a Chinese building.
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literally everything from japan is from china
>currency system
yuan and yen
>clothing
>language
>architecture
>cuisine
>farming method
>instruments
>philosophy
its literally japanized verions of chinese inventions
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>>77851217
Israelites existed before Arabians though.
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>>77851015
>import

All traditional culture in Japan is imported.

Even your ancestors were imported from Korea/Northeast China.
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>>77850950
not even heavily influenced by china directly, rather korea's interpretation of chinese culture as they understood it. there were no real direct links between china and japan other than what was transmitted through them by koreans.
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>>77850938
this
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>>77851085
>Japan is only East Asian with respectful culture.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm no.
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>>77851581
>"go back to korea you gook trash!"

>respectful culture
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>>77850709
Obviously, you guys share a fucking alphabet.
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>>77850709
Probably have to define Sinosphere first, and it's not as easy as Anglosphere. Just borrowing letters 1500 years ago count? Migrating over the sea some 400000 years ago count as the same people? Gotta define these shit first.

In 2017 however, shit doesn't matter economically or politically at all. Of course you know that right? That's why historians don't care enough to define it.
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>>77850709
This is the origin of your national flag.
It is saying 'The flag of korea subordinating to Qing dynasty'.
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>>77850709
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_name

while Chinese surnames have been in use for millennia and were often reflective of an entire clan or adopted from nobles (with or without any genetic relationship) and were thence transferred to Korea and Vietnam via noble names, the vast majority of modern Japanese family names date only to the 19th century, following the Meiji restoration, and were chosen at will.
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>>77852009
>a fucking period stain
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>>77852215
are any of the sengoku jidai lineages still alive? oda and tokugawa etc
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>>77852285
Yes. The major daimyo who still held power at the end of Edo period became peers after the Meiji Restoration, and even though they became commoners after 1945 the families weren't dissolved or anything. Many are still prominent; the chief priest of Yasukuni-jinja is a Tokugawa, for example.
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just stop using chinese characters takeshi
you are in sinosphere as long as you use them
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>>77852796
I never get why Japan didn't go kana-only. Korea's fine with hangul, and in the 1960s even China had considered going to Pinyin completely.
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Wtf why is everybody hating on Japan?
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