Are Albanians European, Yes or No?

>>77808879
Albania is located in Europe so yes, they can consider themselves European.

Yes.

>>77808879
considering albania is in europe and not somewhere on the border where it can be debated like turkey, russia or some of the caucuses countries... yes, albanians are european

1/3 Albanian males in general belong to Y-DNA E-V13.

According to Lacan et al. (2011), Neolithic skeletons (~7,000 years old) that were excavated from the Avellaner cave in Catalonia, northeastern Spain included a male specimen, which carried haplogroup E1b1b. This fossil belonged to the E1b1b1a1b (V13) subclade, and possessed identical haplotypes as found in modern European individuals (five Albanians, two Provence French, two Corsicans, two Bosnians, one Italian, one Sicilian, and one Greek).

Albanians are European and Catalonia is Albanian clay, yes.

>>77808879
Albanians are greek

>>77808879
Not really, they're culturally closer to Turkey and Pakistan. or some other allhustan

>>77808995
>debated like turkey
Turks are sandniggers dude. Get your fucking head straight, no one's debating anything about them.

>>77808879
Albania is in Europe, yeah?

>>77808879
>Are mudshits European
Gee, I wonder...

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>>77812556

Albanians are hwhite paco.

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Shqip a cute, a CUTE

Albania is in Europe
Albanians are European
Albanians are not ethnically European. They are heavily Turkish

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>>77813136
are greeks ethnically european then? what about bulgarians?

>>77812087
Thrace, Cyprus and a few minor islands still under Turkish control are all European. Anatolia isn't European and Turks aren't European.

>>77813165
Some are, some aren't

>>77812087
Im not sure about that. Albanian music is full of nudity and western dancing. Im pretty sure pakis don't have that

>>77812087

>culturally closer to allustan

Greek fustanella is a carbon copy of the original Albanian.

>>77812087
i get Turkey fine but what the fuck makes you think Albanian culture is anything like Pakistan's

>>77808879
Albanians are native to the Balkans.
Just because many of them converted under the Ottomans did not change that.
Oh and if you think that Ottoman culture turned them into non-Europeans culturally then the whole of the Balkans + Greece is non-European too since they have essentially the same cuisine and music.

>>77814218

The issue isn't just with them converting wholesale, they actually mixed heavily with the ottomans.

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>>77813700
>Greek fustanella is a carbon copy of the original Albanian.
>original Albanian
Nice joke

Albanians are a bastardized mix of slav with sandnigger. They have no identity and they dont belong anywhere in Europe. The Turks should take them home.

>>77817474
t. hellenized albanian

>>77808995
there is nothing to debate, Turkey is middle eastern and Russia is European

>>77817600
point is that it's firmly in europe and not on the border

>>77808879
>this thread
white is a social construct it seems

>>77817670
Europe doesnt have defined borders, its just cultural area, Istanbul is not in Europe

>>77817600
>Russia is European
Haha, well memed, friendo. Bazinga

>>77817582
t.diasporoach

im albanian and I don't identify as a pale cuck with recessive genes and low fertility

whites are subhuman

we are a balkan oriental race

>>77817729
t. apollo osmanopolous

>>77817760
so much this

Albanians are Illyrians
Turks are Greeks
Both are European

I believe they are European but not Western. Islam is a fundamentally non-Western religion. A better question to debate is whether the Eastern Orthodox countries are Western.

>>77817760
>balkan oriental race
AKA the offspring of Turks invading some slav village.
Hell.. Albanians are also either atheists or muslims. They dont belong where they are

>>77817846
Christianity is also not western

>>77812087
>Pakistan
Greek idiocy never changes

>>77817865
t. The Golden One!

>>77817894
griitings truu fränd

No. Anything east of Italy and Austria is West Asia. Only catholic and Protestant countries can call themselves European

>>77808879
Yes, which defeats the argument of European = Good

>>77817948
>Greece
>Poland
>Not European
Wew lad

>>77817959

if albanians are so bad how come greeks like mixing with them so much?

>northern greece and athens has been heavily albanian historically

>greeks went out of their way to hellenize arvanites

>Ali pasha's epirus was heavily albanian-greek multiculti yet mixed and peaceful

could it be you secretly long to be shqip'd?

>>77817976
Greece is a debt ridden shithole full of dark people with shit mentality where a lot of places don't have proper washrooms. It can only be called a nice place by subhuman orthodox from around who go to get Euros.
>Poland
Slavic shithole, but since it is catholic, you may kinda call it Europe

>>77817989
Its called assimilation

>>77818031
having a national debt doesn't make people non-European you absolute retard

>>77818077
Being a debt ridden shithole full of shitskin orthodogs does.

>>77818096
incorrect

>>77818096
>>77818031
>an analabanian thinks he has the right to call Slavs niggers

I have now seen it all.

>>77818127
Correct*
The only countries in Balkans that are European are Croatia and Slovenia, if you count them as Balkans(I don't)

>>77818156
What makes you think you are European Slavomir. You probably are a swarthy orthodog. Only if you're from Vojvodina then you might be European, maybe

>>77808879
A

>>77812087
lol Greek monkey chimping out again, shocking.

>>77817989
>northern greece and athens has been heavily albanian historically
sure thing Tonibler
>greeks went out of their way to hellenize arvanites
>greeks hellenizing greeks
nice logic
>Ali pasha's epirus was heavily albanian-greek multiculti yet mixed and peaceful
>peaceful
haha

This thread is literally a mongoloid calling everyone else niggers because hes jealous of their superiority.

Its so surreal its funny

>>77818187
I am a white Ruthenian from Vojvodina.

>>77818266
at least make him beg for the (You)s

>>77818255

>arvanites are greek

:-DDd oy vey

your independence hero was albanian, show some gratefulness

>>77818187
Magyar here.
Independent Vojvodina,when?

>>77818292
Let's ask the Arvanites if they're Albanian
>overwhelming no
question answered

>>77818325

>name literally derives from arben, old albanian language term for ourselves

>THEY'RE GREEK N SHEEIT

whatever helps you sleep at night senpai

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>>77818349
>ourselves
>WE
Jesus fucking christ,you are making Americans look bad

>>77818349
>speak Greek
>learn Albanian and mishmash it with your actual language due to geography
>silly squareheads call you Albanian
>you never were
If Arvanites were so Albanian then why didn't they fight for Albanian independence?
As always, the Nationalist Albanian will grasp at any straws to prove his relevance in this world

>>77818388

we wuzzing and muh heritage is a central part of american culture, kristos

hell, i know 3rd/4th generation greeks in NY that still identify as greek and give their children greek names

it's a beautiful thing, maybe

>>77818457
meanwhile kids in your homeland are named Elvis, Toni and Klinton
It's a beautiful thing, maybe

Lmao my people don't even have a country of their own or anything remotely important and we are not this assblasted.

>>77818266
How's your Magyar nyelv?

>>77818478

>elvis

based

>toni

based

>klinton

after bill not the old witch, based

>>77818532
this is your ancestor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaMRuXnAC-E

>>77818522
What the fuck is that?

>>77818504
What are you?

>>77818623
analbanian in Serbia

>>77818623
probably Vlach

>>77818616
You said you are from Vojvodina. I would assume you know some Hungarian.

>>77818640
>>77818623
I am not Albanian. See >>77818266

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusyns

>>77818659
Nope, not even a bit.

>>77818568

>XAXAXA ALVANOI MALAKA!!!

meme language

>>77818669
i kek'd

stay assblasted

>>77818669
Because you make it sound like a meme

>>77818687

im not assblasted i consider it pretty funny

what would life be like if I didn't hear a nkreek complaining about mpalkan alvanos malaka every now and then?

They are as smart as your regular nigger, but they work long hours for pennies.
I guess they are like kebabs in germany but they actually work

>>77818665
Well I guess you're lucky and you are European, unlike your southern compatriots

>>77818669
>MALAKA
I know this means asshole or wanker or something like that. That is the limit of my Greek.

>>77818732

huh, really..all this time i thought it was an insult meant for foreigners

maybe i should mprush up on my nkrik

>>77818717
still keking

to be fair bickering among Greeks and Albanians is one of the most fun things happening around here. I still want them to leave though. Too many migrated here to the point its ridiculous. Previous generations albanians are subhumans

>>77818765
Its like "cunt" in Britain
Meme buzzword fitting in every occasion

https://youtu.be/Zvl9N9GdraQ

the guy I picture angrily typing ALVAAAAANOI!!! in youtube comments

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>>77818820
kek

They are 10x more European than Turkey.

They are the descendants of illyrians, although their women got fucked a lot by ottomans like in bosnia, they are still more white than turkey imo

I know many Albanians that pass as white here

How is ikibey not summoned? Is he dead? Also albanians are european

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>>77812087
Greek """people"""

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>>77819509
Shit like this make me choke from laughter

>>77819735
He disappeared long ago

>>77819735
he left 4chan forever to focus on his life

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>>77819871
Yeah right

>>77818820
This cracked me up

>>77817846
>Islam is a fundamentally non-Western religion
Either is Christianity, retard. All three of those cancerous cult systems are sand nigger religions.

>>77808879
Of course not

>>77818820
Europeans are so fucking petty and tribal.

Albanians look so interesting with their olive skin, striking facial features and varying eye-color. Some of them are gorgeous, some of them just look weird.
How hard is it to rent a car in Tirana and just drive around the country? Are there any accessible hiking trails? What is the prevalence of midget fetishes in Albania? Is it lower than in the west?
I would like to visit someday, but I'm thinking that FYROM might be better. Plane tickets are cheaper, and I don't care about beaches.

they need to be wiped from this universe

>>77820222
There are many places where you can go hiking or rock climbing but imo it's better to find a guide because they know where to go and can make your trip way better

>>77821005
Did you put too many spices on your morning pasta Peperoni

>>77817876
>>77813700
>>77819737
>>77818228
Hmmm... not a single albanian flags... and all are countries which feature a big amount of Albanians. I wonder, who could be behind these posts?

Common things between Albania, Turkey and Pakistan.
1.Mutilated dicks
2.They hate pork
3.They hate dogs
4.They hate alcohol
5.They rape white women
6.They sell heroin to European children
7.They all come here looking to rape, kill, and destroy

Absolutely not.
Worse than africans.

>>77818820
kekd

>>77808879
of course they are. just because they are muslims does not mean they aren't european

>>77821356
Didnt know israel,russia and canada had a significant albanian population.

>>77821420
when are you going to kill yourself kelly
nobody will miss your fatass ass and your kalamaki posts

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>>77819509
Roll

>>77821981
But if I'm dead we're gonna have 12 more Albanians unemployed turning to crime in order to survive in Greece.