>Amerindians are uncivilized savag-

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>>77767945
That does look like a colonial building

>>77767995
It is the Histosical Center in Guatemala city.

>>77768127
So ""we"" built it?
I'm glad it is well preserved nevertheless

[EL CONDOR PASSA PLAYING IN THE DISTANCE]

>>77767945
>>77768127
Why is it full of Argentinians tho

>>77768224
We wuz builders and shieeet

>>77768127
>historical center
>the building is a Taco Bell

Literally pottery

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>>77768224
I mean, I guess the Imperio Español builded it. But still. The criollos who builded it are the ancestors of modern Guatemalans (even if they were less than 1% Spanish). I am guessing they didn´t just went back to Spain or something.

>>77767985

STOP STOP THAT FUCKING DESPACITO SHIT, IM FUCKING TIRED OF THAT MOTHERFUCKING SO CALLED "MUSIC"

REGAETON BROWN SHITHOLE

>>77769188
SUAVE SUAVECITO

>>77768224
You "built it" with our money, on our land and with our resources... Even using Amerindian slaves.

So those building are 90℅ ours.

>>77769293
Nice meme all of it was castiles money and land.

>>77769293
And Castile padsed laws of the infies that didnt exist before banning cruel treatments of natives.

>>77769083
Are you retarded? Why are you putting Amerindian in the title if it was built by fucking Spaniards?

>>77769293
:v

>>77769445
>>77769476
El CHI iberico

>>77769489
It was planed by Spaniards. The workforce was probably either Amerindians or Africans.

I am just saying that the amerindians in the pic look fairly civilized and the old building seem to be well maintained.

>>77769543
> :v
15 year old spotted

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ITT: Ignorant people discussing a culture they don't know nothing about

ITT: Peru tried their worst.

>>77769543

Grasomierda imbecil

>>77769730
>old building seem to be well maintained.
En serio, me alegro que lo mantengáis.

>>77769188
Quiero, quiero, quiero ver cuánto amor a ti te cabe

Good amerindians

>Peruvians
>Paraguayans

Okey Amerindians

>Mexicans
>Guatemalans
>Canadians
>Americans

Terrible Amerindians

>The rest

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>>77768224
>So ""we"" built it?
No, "we" built it. Guatemala was a part of New Spain and conquered by a few Spanish officers leading thousands of Aztec troops, the building is in a style that tries to imitate Mexico City architecture (pictured) which employed a mix of European motifs (with some well hidden mesoamerican symbols like the five petal flower) and Aztec construction techniques and materials such as the use of chiluca and tezontle. The mix of Spanish and Amerindian culture in North America is what is today known as Mexican culture, buildings with that aesthetic don't actually exist in Europe.

>>77770112
Bretty cool, didn't know they fused the two styles together. Is there a name for this particular style?

>>77770343
Novohispanian baroque

>>77770112
sounds like made up bullshit to compensate for inferior indio genes t b h

>>77770561
Yeah, you're the one sucking /poltard cock here, I'm talking verifiable facts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Spanish_Baroque

>>77769730
Sounds like you're just backtracking and doing damage control for your gay thread, you faggot.

>>77770067
They're all terrible. The Native Americans here who stay on the reservations are all fat, lazy stupid alcoholics. They have no redeeming qualities whatsoever. At least black people can be entertaining/fun to be around, despite their lower average intelligence, because of high verbal IQ, but Amerindians don't have anything to compensate.

>>77770761
>literally no mention of what you said

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>>77770784
>Having any strong beliefs or convictions.
>Caring about what other people think about them.

>>77770859
If you want it spelled out it means you actually have to educate yopurself self hating cuck

https://issuu.com/arquicultura/docs/arquicultura

Don't worry, it's got pictures

>>77771143
okay, tizoc, keep taking pride in fucking indios. useless faggots.

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ITT

>>77771184
>t. José Perez proud Spanish conqueror.

>>77771184
I will, brayan, remember to jump the border before the wall goes up

I'm from Sinaloa btw, it's your ancestors I'm defending

>>77771351
of course, it's mine, yours couldn't even evolve beyond scavenging and had to wait to for spaniards to teach them how to build civilization

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>WE WUZ ARCHITECTURE AND SHIT
The only thing indios built was shitty pyramids, the most simplistic type of structure a human can build.
Pic related, this was built by napoleonic troops who got bored.
If you are a indio or a mestizo you just have to live with the fact that you are a lesser human being, you'll never be as good as whites and asians.

I guess this is what colonialism is about.
I wonder if people can be less serious about it

>>77771438
Nah, I'm 1/16th Yaqui, they were never conquered by the Spaniards, my other ancestors were too busy raping yours

>>77771515
well, i'm not a darkie so i don't give a shit

>>77771515
>they were never conquered by the Spaniards
Why are you part of Mexico then?

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>>77771588
You may not be a "darkie" but you're a nigger

>>77771442
>t. castizo

>>77771738
Castizos are mestizos in denial.

>>77771829
>Castizos are mestizos in denial.
You're preaching to the converted

>>77771681
Because Mexicans did their fair bit of conquering as well

>>77771738
>amerindian place
>has western name
kek cucks

De spa sino

Com'è bello far lo spazzino

>>77771681
because yaquis are stupid indians that were eventually isolated even if they weren't defeated

>>77770067
>El PeruANO
>Good
Yeah seems about right

>>77771442
Accept your amerindian roots, my fellow son of la pachamama.
It's a shame that /int/ and /pol/ have turned several of my countrymen into selfhaters.

>>77772055
>>77772051
>>77771974
Dumb amerindians

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>>77771442
>If you are a indio or a mestizo you just have to live with the fact that you are a lesser human being, you'll never be as good as whites and asians.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJ

>Tenochtitlan was founded on an islet in the western part of the lake in the year 1325. Around it, the Aztecs created a large artificial island using a system similar to the creation of chinampas. To overcome the problems of drinking water, the Aztecs built a system of dams to separate the salty waters of the lake from the rain water of the effluents. It also permitted them to control the level of the lake. The city also had an inner system of channels that helped to control the water.

>During Cortés' siege of Tenochtitlan in 1521, the dams were destroyed, and never rebuilt, so flooding became a big problem for the new Mexico City built over Tenochtitlan.

>Mexico City suffered from periodic floods; in 1604 the lake flooded the city, with an even more severe flood following in 1607. Under the direction of Enrico Martínez, a drain was built to control the level of the lake, but in 1629 another flood kept most of the city covered for five years.

>Eventually the lake was drained by the channels and a tunnel to the Pánuco River, but even that could not stop floods, since by then most of the city was under the water table. The flooding could not be completely controlled until 1967, with the construction of a Deep Drainage System.

>The ecological consequences of the draining were enormous. Parts of the valleys were turned semi-arid, and even today Mexico City suffers for lack of water. Due to overdrafting that is depleting the aquifer beneath the city, Mexico City is estimated to have dropped 10 meters in the last century. Furthermore, because soft lake sediments underlie most of Mexico City, the city has proven vulnerable to soil liquefaction during earthquakes, most notably in the 1985 earthquake when hundreds of buildings collapsed and 45 0000 lives were lost.

>>77771442
Reminder that Mexicas built an entire city in the middle of a lake but the Spaniards rebuilt it on top of it and destroyed the cannals for clean water. Then surprisingly the city flooded constantly for more than a century until they decided to drain the lake and wasted the water causing the near area to desertify and now the city is sinking and (Im not so sure about this one) the capital has a lack of water problem.
>>77772148
Pizza, pasta you couldnt beat the ethopians in WW2, expresso, capuchinno, mamma mia

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>>77772193
>>77772231
Nice drawing
>>Tenochtitlan was founded on an islet in the western part of the lake in the year 1325
Ever heard of Venice? your getto version is younger and only exists in drawings made by 11 yo apparently

>>77772426
that's an island tho

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>>77772426
>Nice drawing
thank the spanish

>>77772426
Its not like the entire city was retardedly rebuilt on top of the old one...
Anyway, why are you mentioning Venice? Is it because Argentinians still believe on the current year that they are italians?

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>>77772426
>>77772528
fortunately archeaologists can still do it some justice

>>77772524
Its called the floating city for a reason dumbo, most of it are logs and blocks of limestone.
>>77772564
I mentioned to show your beloved floating city is just a crappier and younger version of something Europeans already had, I am an Italian national though, not that it matter if venice was in Poland I would had posted it regardless.

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>>77772426
>only exists in drawings made by 11 yo apparently
hey don't be mean with the spanish, they did what they could

>>77772607
We wuz italians n shit

>>77772623
Be thakful, that piece was probably the first thing ever written in north America, you'd be having a hard time browsing 4chan without an alphabet
>>77772695
>Wuz
IZ

>>77772731
>IZ
This reminds me that the Black History Month guys decided to make a counter to the "We wuz kangz" by making a campaign called "WE IZ KANGZ".

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>>77772731
No, ancient Mexicans did have a written language, you realy suck at knowing shit about Mesoamerica

>>77772796
Yes an African American of bantu west African slave origins claiming Egyptian heritage is the same as an Italian jus sanguinis citizen claiming he has Italian heritage.
Hahaha
>>77772836
That aint a language and I would delete this image before /pol/ notices one of the faces has white skin and blonde hair.

>>77772878
Did you even do your homework on mesoamerican cultures? Or are you just talking up your ass?

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>>77772836
HOLD UP
WAIT A MINUTE
>Hair clips
>Fro'
>That nose
>That melanine
*breaths in*
WE

>>77772943
Argentinians are not real italians and nothing they state can deny the thruth of their Congoloid heritage.

>>77772924
>Studying barbarian's culture
Why

>>77772878
>That aint a language
Man, there's literal hundreds of Aztec books, I mean ffs

>before /pol/ notices
Too late, the kangz tier idea Aztlán is Vinland has been circulating for a while

>>77767945
ugh, they're terrible. That little cherrypicked building wouldn't even exist if it wasn't built by spaniards

>>77772731
then why don't you go back to europe my european friend?

>>77773084
Name your favorite aztec author or quote a famous aztec codex
>>77773186
I am

>>77773084
>there's literal hundreds of Aztec books, I mean ffs
lol wut. there aren't.

>>77773071
Theres a reason why we make fun of Americunts so much

>>77773186
The same could be said of you, Schlomo.

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>>77773198
>argentina is in europe

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>>77773248
I am as in I am going back

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>>77773198
Give it up che

>>77773209
There are dumb fuck chicano
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_codices

>>77773353
Nice facebook quote.
Maybe the best warrior was the one with steel weapons after all :^)

>>77773246
>schlomo
>go back
sorry dude but we wuz israelites n shiet
>>77773273
got a european citizenship/passport at least? where will you settle?

>>77773379
meh, Cortés may have been a lot of things but he was too dishonorable to ever be considered a warrior, even by European standards of his time.

>>77773436
I can see how you are not one of those 125 IQ average azkenazim given your ability to follow a chain of replies.

>>77773475
Extremadura was the biggest shithole in Europe so you have to consider Cortez to be basically a thug nigga.
I'm baffled they managed to make cannons and gunpowder from scratch given the backgrounds of the people involved though.

>>77773353
most of them were written during the colonial era under the tutelage of the spaniards, dumb fag.

>>77773379
>Maybe the best warrior was the one with steel weapons after all :^)
Maybe you would knew that advanced weaponry was barely an advantage during the conquista if you actually wanted to learn instead of talking things straight out of your ass.
If the superior weaponry and horses was indeed an advantage then Cortez wouldnt have lost "La noche triste".

>>77773550
Now you're going to start picking on Extremeños and Andaluces? Because those were the very first Euros to challenge Turkish naval supremacy and were also a part of the tercios, What are you? A Celt-Galician Manolo?

>>77773563
They were still written by Nahua tlacuilos after the Spaniards burned down the original libraries, some BOOKS did survive however.

Anyway, codices aside classical Nahuatl remains the largest literary canon of any American language and Mesoamericans alone had a written language, seriously you're such a malinche it's embarrasing, why are you not in /pol already?

>>77773787
Extremadura is like rural Portugal, its name comes from "extreme shithole" it was catellanizado later to extrema mierda dura and with the years it go bastardized.
>>77773752
>Why did cortez lose 9 millon vs 300 if superior technology was an advantage
Come on bruh

>>77773787
malinche was probably the only indian with a brain in the whole continent, she clearly knew who was the superior civilization and played her cards, right. she should be one of our national heroes t b h but of course, crazy indigenistas like you have to ruin everything

>>77773911
>What are tlaxcaltecas
Do you even know the context of "La noche triste" if you want to circlejerk about how Europeans were the only good civilizations on the entire world then go to /pol/
>>77774014
Nice bait bro

>>77774034
I don't give a shit about your shithole and its history homie, the incas were more advanced than the aztecs and they got decimated in battles, you're just wrong.

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>>77774093
>homie
>the incas were more advanced than the aztecs and they got decimated in battles
>Doesnt care about Mexicos history but somehow knows another civilization he knows nothing about
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong board, /pol/ is two blocks down from here

>>77774212
>/pol/
I'm not religious so I'll stay here my subhuman friend

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>>77774298
>/pol/
>/religious/

>>77774093
>incas were more advanced than the aztecs
By all means post an image of the Inca written language

>>77775946
Here is a picture comparing the incan and aztec written language side by side

>>77769293
WE
>t. 50-50 nature's monster

>>77775946
Incas actually had something pretty cool called quipus in which they registered all types of information, they have even been called ancients computers. I don't understand why you feel the need to attack another great pre-Colombian civilization to try and make the Aztecs look better desu.

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>>77776015
Yeah, I seem to be missing half that picture

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>>77772731
>Be thakful, that piece was probably the first thing ever written in north America
buena nido

>According to the Guinness Book of Records, Cholula is in fact the largest pyramid as well as the largest monument ever constructed anywhere in the world, with a total volume estimated at over 4.45 million cubic metres, even larger than that of the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt, which is about 2.5 million cubic metres.
>their estimate of the length of the synodic month being more accurate than Ptolemy's,[2] and their calculation as to the length of the tropical solar year was more accurate than that of the Spanish when the latter first arrived
>The Aztec Triple Alliance, which ruled from 1428 to 1521 in what is now central Mexico, is considered to be the first state to implement a system of universal compulsory education.[4][5]
>It has also been suggested that the Spanish conquest of Mesoamerica influenced the history of the botanical garden[14] as gardens in Tenochtitlan established by king Nezahualcoyotl,[18] also gardens in Chalco (altépetl) and elsewhere, greatly impressed the Spanish invaders, not only with their appearance, but also because the indigenous Aztecs employed many more medicinal plants than did the classical world of Europe.[19][20] Hernando Cortés reportedly told the Spanish monarch that the Aztec physicians were superior to those in Spain, so superior, in fact, that the king need not bother sending Spanish physicians to the New World. this statement was later confirmed in a early letter by the personal physian of the Spanish monarch who spent 7 years studying the Aztec medicine in a research trip that was expected to last 6 months: ‘"I marveled, in this and in innumerable other herbs, which are nameless among us, how in the Indies, where people are so uncultured and barbaric, there are so many herbs, some with known uses and some without, but there is almost none, which is not known to them and given a particular name".

>>77767945
They all smell like laundry detergent

>>77772571
>Spanish conquistador Hernán Cortés arrived in Tenochtitlan on November 8, 1519. With an estimated population between 200,000 and 300,000, many scholars believe Tenochtitlan to have been among the largest cities in the world at that time.[14] Compared to Europe, only Paris, Venice and Constantinople might have rivaled it. It was five times the size of the London of Henry VIII.[6]


>"Our astonishment was indeed raised to the highest pitch, and we could not help remarking to each other, that all these buildings resembled the fairy castles we read of in Amadis de Gaul; so high, majestic, and splendid did the temples, towers, and houses of the town, all built of massive stone and lime, rise up out of the midst of the lake. Indeed, many of our men asked if what they saw was a mere dream. And the reader must not feel surprised at the manner in which I have expressed myself, for it is impossible to speak coolly of things which we had never seen nor heard of, nor even could have dreamt of, beforehand."
Bernal díaz del Castillo, True History of the Conquest of New Spain Chapter LXXXVII

>"Moctezuma He possessed out of the city as well as within, numerous villas, each of which had its peculiar sources of amusement, and all were constructed in the best possible manner for the use of a great prince and lord. Within the city his palaces were so wonderful that it is hardly possible to describe their beauty and extent; I can only say that in Spain there is nothing equal to them."
- Hernan Cortes, Second Letter of Relation to Charles V

>>77776418
Quipus cannot record literature, they're basically a fancy abbacus, and I'm not pissing on Incas, just setting the record straight.

>>77776467
Why don't we blow up the church sitting on top of the Pyramid of Cholula and uncover it?

ahem
did we build anything cool there at all?

This thread is why all whites in the Americas, and all non-whites that sympathize with them, must be genocide

>>77776660
Elaborate on your reasons further

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>>77773198
>Name your favorite aztec author or quote a famous aztec codex
Tecayehuatzin
Do we really speak here, Giver of life...?
Even if emeralds, if fine ointments,
we give to the Giver of Life,
if with collars you are invoked, with the strength of the eagle,
of the tiger,
it could be that nobody says the truth on the earth. Ayocuan and Cuetzpal speak like this,
that truly know the Giver of Life...
I hear his word there, certainly his,
the rattle bird answers to the Giver of Life.
Go chanting, offer flowers, offer flowers.
Like emeralds and quetzal feathers, are his words raining.
Over there maybe the Giver of Life satisfies himself?
Is this the only truthful thing on the earth?

Also pic related:
An incarnated death in war was devoured by the earth, it took his identity (face, also spelled as eye), it took his heart and raised it to the sky through fire and water (i.e. burned the blood), and placed its heart among us by beatiful words.
The ornments, such as the wristband with two incarnated eyes/stars, also have a meaning, but the journal doesn't explain them. The yellow figures in the face of death are also unknown.
tldr; The painter of the codex is trying to speak warrior's death in worthy terms, like the death itself. The rest of the page in the codex is a bit more complicated

source:
Journal of Mexican Archaeology The Codex Fejervary-Mayer

>>77772731
quite a shame i can't find the article of the venetian noble who proposed the city council to resolve its water suplying problem like in tenochtitlan with an aqueduct from mainland, love the whole letter since at starts to refer to tenochtitlan by saying "our very pious and christian sister city of tenochtitlan" kek

>>77777060
>trying to speak warrior's death
of a warrior's death

also

>(About Tlatelolco) After we had sufficiently gazed upon this magnificent picture, we again turned our eyes toward the great market, and beheld the vast numbers of buyers and sellers who thronged there. The bustle and noise occasioned by this multitude of human beings was so great that it could be heard at a distance of more than four miles. Some of our men, who had been at Constantinople and Rome, and travelled through the whole of Italy, said that they never had seen a market-place of such large dimensions, or which was so well regulated, or so crowded with people as this one at Mexico.
- The True History of the Conquest of New Spain by Bernal Diaz del Castillo, Chapter XCII

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>>77773752
>If the superior weaponry and horses was indeed an advantage then Cortez wouldnt have lost "La noche triste".
The spanish army got surrounded in a broad high road during their scape from tenochtitlan, they couldn't charge with their cavalry neither deploy their artillery since they were trying to scape. La Noche triste perfectly shows what would have happened had steel been the only advantage of the spanish. As soon as the artillery and cavalry was deployed things changed decisively.

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>>77773379
>steel from the mesopotamians
>gunpowder from the chinese
>horses from the central asians
natives were just fucked, not only they did not share knowledge with the massive area of cultural exchange of eurasia, but also didn't get steadily exposed to its diseases, they all came within a century. It's a miracle that natives survived considering that the bubonic plague alone killed 25% to 60% of the European population

Diseases introduced from the New Wolrd to the Old World:
- A bedbug infection
- Syphilis (disputed)

Diseases introduced from the Old World to the New World:
- Bubonic plague
- Chicken pox
- Cholera
- Diphtheria
- Influenza
- Leprosy
- Malaria
- Measles
- Scarlet fever
- Smallpox
- Typhoid
- Typhus
- Whooping cough
- Yaws
- Yellow fever

>>77770112
Mexico city architecture is just an offshot of southern Castillian architecture

>>77768224
>we built it
das rite

>>77773550
>Extremadura was the biggest shithole in Europe
What? Trujillo was a pretty wealthy and Cortés had university formation. He was pretty smart

>>77773911
>Extremadura is like rural Portugal, its name comes from "extreme shithole
Extremadura comes from "extremo duelo" which was how frontiers were called back in the day. Valencia was part of the Aragonese extremadura for example

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>>77780199
He was trolling, that wasn't a legit response

>>77780042
By all means post something like pictured in Castilla-La Mancha

>>77776561
Nah fuck you thats a pretty nice church, we dont gain anything by doing the same mistakes as the spaniards

>>77780062
But spaniards did build it. Congoloids have little to do with ancient egypt apart from one dynasty.

>>77769188
de nada :^)

>>77780170
>Cortés had university formation. He was pretty smart
Smart isnt the same as ethical, sure the British empire was pretty clever but calling everyone you dont like "subhuman" and genociding boers and Zulus and indians isnt that morally correct anon.

>>77773198
Nezahualcoyotl desu

"Amo el canto del zenzontle"

>>77773752
>horses
These were a fucking advantage for sure. Look up any battle of cavalry vs infantry, even with the same level of technology, and you'll see. It's insane how fucking OP they were,

Mongol Empire ring a bell?

>we wuz: the thread

>>77780641
that poem is neither of nezahualcoyotl nor prehispanic

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.........................................REMINDER........................................

THIS OP IS A NOTORIOUS AMERICAN SCHIZOPHRENIC TROLL
WHO IS OBSESSED WITH MEXICO/WHITENESS POSTING DOZENS
OF FLAMEBAITS LIKE THIS ON /INT/ EVERY DAY FOR YEARS
HE IS NOT A SANE MAN HE IS POSSESSED WITH PARANOIA
YOU CANNOT EXPECT A COHERENT RESPONSE FROM HIM
DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD AND JUST LET HIM ALONE
WHAT HE NEEDS IS NOT A REPLY BUT MEDICAL TREATMENT

╚═════════════════ ೋღღೋ ════════════════╝

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>>77780604
>Smart isnt the same as ethical
He was still clever, the biggest european expedition prior the wars of independence was sent by the governor of cuba to arrest him for starting an expedition they both prepared in the name of cortes, when it was supposed to be in the name of the governor.
He was outnumbered 3 to 1, with 10 times less cavalry and managed to win with a sneak attack wtih virtually no casualties on both sides, except from an eye of the commander sent by the governor. After the battle he even convinced all these men to join him.

But yeah, he was still an asshole.

>>77772836
Wtf is the abomination? Vinca script is more a written language than that.

Didn't Izcoatl ordered to burn all the old aztec manuscripts to rewrite the history?

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>>77787517
pic related, a chinese script
>The ninth day of the first lunar month, a dog day, will be a fire day. In the morning there will be fog under the earth. Before sunrise, clouds will appear in the sky. A tsʰintʃʰá sword and a npʰópá will appear afterwards. This means that the morning will be a good morning. After midday, two stars will die, only one of the three will still be shining and the sun will be in an abnormal condition. One can surmise that there is a deity under the earth; it is better not to move earth that day. (Sun 2009:173)

only difference is that people know what it means because is still in use

but nevermind all the arguments, is obvious that the only people capable of doing something right are euros >>77772193

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>>77787677
is unknown what he burned, and it being mentioned by literally only one source with a heavy symbolic context doesn't help either

here's the spanish version, which seems incomplete compared to the version in nahuatl in pic related, both come from the florentine codex

>Por lo [la] cual cuenta no se puede saber qué tanto tiempo estuvieron en Tamoanchan, y se sabía por las pinturas que se quemaron en tiempos del señor de México, que se decía Itzcóatl, en cuyo tiempo los señores y los principales que había entonces acordaron y mandaron que se quemasen todas, porque no viniesen a manos del vulgo y viniesen en menosprecio.

>>77769293
Wtf are you talking about? Yes, the spaniards used indigenous people to build it, that doesn't make it yours faggot

>>77780496
gracias por tanto, perdon por tan poco

>>77767945
Spanish colonial cities were the richest places in whole world during the XVI-XVII centuries.