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Why are Americans so uneducated? What is the US doing wrong?

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Why are Americans so uneducated? What is the US doing wrong? Even though they're such an influential and "rich" country, why can't they invest in education instead of wasting billions on military weapons and welfare? At this rate you're going to lose to Europe. inb4 >b-but our unis are the best! Yeah your primary and secondary education sucks though.
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They are americans, they don't need a insult.
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Uneducated about what?
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>>77655314
Literally everything. American posters are one of the worst of this board. They're mostly shitposters and ignorant about other countries, and the ignorance really shows.
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>>77655206
Because in America, diversity is more important than education, smart students need to be in the same class with the slow learning students. Thus teacher can't teach the smarter students more things.
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>>77655314
Pretty much everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRkFDcX_72c
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>Brazil talking about education
Uma delícia
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>tfw idiot
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>>77656003
Brazilians are some of the most intelligent and most well educated people on earth. You think we're Africa and live in jungle or something?
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>>77656003
Fuck off, cuck. Don't you have some Brazilian migrates to authorise?
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>>77655969
I get the feeling this video will give me brain damage.
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>>77655505
Why are you complaining about Americans on an American website, you fucking spic? Make your own BrazilChan and leave us alone. Buenos nachos.
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>>77656091
>Brazilians are some of the most intelligent and most well educated people on earth
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>>77656318
Brazilians are not spics and 55chan already exists. I'm sure you made those mistakes on purpose, though.
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>>77656318
Calm down, dude.
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>>77656449
Why is your English so good?
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>>77656318
>based on a japanese BBS
>owned by a japanese person
>used by thousands of people from different countries
>"American website"
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>>77656106
The only brazilian immigrants here are whores and drug dealers. Stay the fuck away from my country you retarded monkeys.
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>>77656709
haha
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>>77655206
>Brazil
>8th from bottom
>riding the "Americans are dumb meme"

I don't even have to say a further word. Go back to your monkey threads, you're not even worth the breath
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>>77655505
>largest portion of posters are American
>it's an American website and most Americans posting are probably underage kiddies
>adult yuropoors and hispanics have trouble arguing with fucking underage American cunts
damn...
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World University Ranking (Times Higher Education:
1. Oxford (UK)
2. Caltech (USA)
3. Stanford (USA)
4. Cambridge (UK)
5. MIT (USA)
6. Harvard (USA)
7. Princeton (USA)
8. Imperial College London (UK)
9. ETH Zurich (Switzerland)
10 (tie). UC Berkeley (USA) / University of Chicago (USA)

It looks like we're doing okay.

>>77655206
Brazil: University of Sao Paulo (251)

>>77655861
Wow, you think diversity is what makes Americans dumb? You could literally only think that if you yourself are completely uneducated and not terribly bright. But good job being indoctrinated.
Canada: University of Toronto (22)

>>77655969
France: École Normale Supérieure (66)

>>77656449
You're right. You're only part Latino. You also have a very large black population, and a large Middle Eastern one. It mixes with Native, white, and Asian populations. Your country is literally synonymous with race mixing.
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>>77656880
No, we don't have a large black population. Blacks are 8% of the total population, if you take out the ones that consider themselves mixed. I also don't know what you mean with "large Middle Eastern" population. Most arabs go to Europe or America and blow themselves up. There aren't many in the Brazil. Furthermore, there is basically no Asian or Amerindian population, as those are literally only 1% of Brazil's populace. Most Asians that you're talking about here are second generation immigrant Japanese. Thanks for having interest in Brazil's demographics, though.
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>>77656668
It's an American website, my friend.
It was started as one and still is one.
I know you don't leave /int/, but the vast majority of its users are American and will be for a long time.
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>>77655206
It's the niggers.
Black school districts are a money pit. No matter how much money gets throw at them they are still shit.
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>>77655505
That's a lot coming from a country with favelas and more murders in a day than most cities in the us have all year.
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Non meme answer: they do spend a lot on education but as with any public system so large and fragmented there is a lot of waste and mishandling
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>>77657195
By american standards you're like 50% + nigger.
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>>77657411
Oh shit, a reasonable person for once.
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>>77657300
/int/ is actually one of the worst boards in this site. I only come here so I can shitpost. Thanks for the serious answer though.

>>77657354
Black schools aren't heavily funded by the government. All the money that could be used for those goes to welfare. So maybe you should try fixing them schools before giving them free money and reparations.
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>>77657461
You don't know who I am, so why are you trying to guess my ethnicity? Also, the US has more niggers than Brazil. The difference is that they were segregated so they didn't mix with whites.
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>>77655206
>Country of 320 mill people
>Wonders why some of them are dumb
By pure numbers, you are going to encounter a lot of stupid americans. Even the most educated countries has its share of dumb people.
The "americans are dumb" joke is funny, but it's that, a joke
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>>77657497
>>>/int/, >>>/his/, >>>/pol/, >>>/k/, and >>>/n/

are the only good boards left on this shit site. Everything else is gay, tranny porn. His has had an influx of lefties and we wuzers but it's still good.
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>>77657497
>Black schools aren't heavily funded by the government.
Oh my god. You know nothing.
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>>77657622
/pol/ is literally the cancer that is ruining this site. There's a reason why /bant/ was created, so all the shitposters could go there instead of shitting up other boards. Unfortunatedly, it didn't work. /his/ is actually okay, people are actually civilised and are able to post intelligent posts. /int/ is just /pol/ but less alt-right shit and more shitposting.
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>>77657622
>/pol/
>good
Praise kek I guess
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>>77657707
>>77657731
Pol is about the only place where you can discuss current events without some faggy little redditors screaming -isms at people.

pol is also the largest board on the site.

and admit it you all go to pol as well.
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>>77657707
alt-right is no longer alt it's now mainstream.
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>>77657622
/lit/ and /mu/ are pretty decent too. There's some shitposting and what not, but you can get some good recs or discussions often
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>>77657622
>/pol/
>/int/
Opinion discarded.
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>>77657774
>Pol is about the only place where you can discuss current events without some faggy little redditors screaming -isms at people.
Shariablue detected
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>>77657821
/lit/ was ok early on.
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>>77657814
Prime ameribear material.
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>>77657774
I don't go to /pol/ because I'm not cancer. Also, /pol/ is literally plebbit. You can't post opinions other than alt-right ones or people will autistically screech at you about how you're a sjw. The reason why /pol/ is so big is because all the edgy newfags go there. It's even worse after the election.
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UMA
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>>77657880
I think they gave up.
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>>77657924

"alt-right" is a buzzword.
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>>77657968
You don't know what a buzzword is.
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>>77657774
>cuck
>cuck
>cuck
>shill
>cuck
>JIDF
>cuck
>subhuman
>cuck
Brilliant discussions.
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>>77657994
>I know you are but what am I
and you claim >>>/pol/ is the problem.
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>>77658031
libtard
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>>77658031
>>77658061
If the shoe fits.
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>>77658043
I don't know what you mean. Either way, "alt-right" is not a buzzword because it's still used with its proper meaning.
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>tfw teacher

I'll help you
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>>77658061
>>77658116
D&C
SHUT IT DOWN
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>>77658129
The only reason it's in the vernacular is due to hillary clinton and her "alt-right" speech a year ago and the aftermath of the mass group of leftist journalists who almost immediately started running with it.

If you don't think mass migration is something that should be allowed you're labeled "alt-right". If that's the case then everyone is alt-right.
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>>77658244
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>>77658275
There you go, a buzzword.
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The idea of American education seems to stem from the vast inequality in American knowledge, strong in scientific discovery vs a populace that has been shown to be completely vacuous on basics such as geography, history and politics. Of course some of the latter is somewhat imaginary and conjecture, but dumb American's tend to be brazenly confident, in a way that allows videos to show the dumb American stereotype.
Combine with this the rise of the sjw hysteria in universities, who share with their less progressive contemporaries their unapologetic, opinionated and loud demeanor.

You can clearly see from >>77656880 that American universities are doing well, at least those at the top. Britain could be said to be doing the same, our lower forms of education are in poor state compared to our Russell's group universities.

The real problem then, stems from American public schools (from what I've heard from American's) and in our country in the comprehensive school approach, now being re-branded as the academies. To fix the problems afflicting the primary and secondary education may lie in culture or it may lie in school organisation itself (selection by ability rather than money seems to me a better way to solve the problems).

tl:dr American public education up to highschool is shit and needs fixing.
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I miss the old /pol/ when it was libertarians and Stormbros. Today it looks like some awful mix of Breitbart and /r/thedonald.
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>>77658244
What do you want me to call you, then? Far right? Extreme right? Because it's the same shit to me.
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educated ppl wont let a country function as the US functions, its very simple, dumb fat fucks wont questions establishments, business morals, taxes, healthcare, WAR

they gona uggaboogaa about who is black or white, who is a "spic", who is a yank, who is a hillbilly, they should be allowed to identify as an attack helicopter, they were kings in africa and alike very important ideological questions who have zero impact on their quality of life
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>>77658333
Stop lying.
/pol/ called itself alt-right all this time until redditors also started using it and now it's simply fallen out of fashion.
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>>77658401
So your problem is ideology? If thats the case you just come across as whining.
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>>77657482
And he's Australian. An Australian made a decent post.

I'm confused.
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>>77658411
Thisu.
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>>77657774
>dropped a muh Reddit and a rite guise like they were nothing
4chan expert here, folks
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>>77658472
I don't even know what you're going on about at this point. This only started because I stated that /pol/ is cancer (which is true), their ideology has nothing to do with it.
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>>77658244
>everyone is alt-right
Are you the same dork who posted this >>77657774 ?
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>>77658599
and you finally admitted the problem you had with them was their ideology.
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>>77658727
It's not the ideology, retard. They could be the KKK and I would not give a fuck as long as they didn't act like kids and shat up other boards. I don't even consider myself left wing in the first place. My problem is with the lacking quality of the board itself.
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>>77658814
yet you ignore the anime boards and the pony boards and the worst of all B. It's the ideology that bothers you.
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To keep the masses stupid and willing to co-operate with an extremely corrupt government.
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Reminder that this guy is a gay leftwingtard thats still in highschool
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>>77659053
If you're what the average polfag is like, then it makes all the sense in the world to hate pol.
You're a real cunt, you know that?
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>>77659131
and at this point you're just being emotional.
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>>77655206
Why is it always South Americans that make these threads?
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>>77656776
>>77655206
Americans aren't that stupid, it's just European propaganda
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>>77660411
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>>77656880
Good job proving the OP right. You can't even read his entire post.
>the primary and secondary education in America sucks
>B-BUT LOOK AT THIS LIST OF PRESTIGE UNIVERSITIES THAT 99% OF AMERICANS WILL NEVER ATTEND
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>>77659924
envy.

The wall is about to come up they better get across the border and into a sanctuary city soon.
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>>77660411
>>77660443
We have 40 million niggers, you have to take that into account. Without them out statistics would be much better.
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>>77660886
Those "niggers" are American citizens and you have to accept that they are part of your country, and that over 50% of babies being born in America RIGHT NOW are not white.
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>>77661194
Niggers abort more than they let be born.
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t's a systematic issue.
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>>77655206
>why can't they invest in education
we spend more than most countries per-capita. last i checked, only switzerland spends more. the problem isn't underfunded schools, it's schools spending money on bullshit, and not being able to fire bad teachers.
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>>77661194
You're wasting time with this guy. Not that I don't appreciate the effort.
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>>77657622
>/pol/
>good
In what fucking world
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>>77657622
I'd include /fit/ but its full of unironic homofaggots now
/lit/ is full of commies
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>>77655206
america already spends a considerable amount on education you dumb monkey.
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>>77662374
The one we're trapped in, apparently.
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>muh universities

America overcharge students (50K per annum) and overpay researchers, so of course the all flock to united states.

Also the criteria with which universities are ranked is questionable.
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>>77662374
the world where pol is size of every other board combined.
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>>77662411
Fit has always been fulling of faggots.
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>>77661194
Yes I know we're stuck with them. I'm just pointing out that they are the anchor around our collective legs.
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>>77662981
The anchor is our government, you stupid cunt.
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>>77655206
My country is as large as >>77655969 entire continent.
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>>77655206
>Why are Americans so uneducated? What is the US doing wrong?

mfw they pronounce words like tomato, muslim,vitamin and the letter Z wrong.
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>>77656091
É, você é estrangeiro em qualquer site ou local da net com muitos brasileiros e eles simplesmente vão fazer macacada: SAI DAKI GRINGO LIXO VAI SE FUDER, realmente muito educados.
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>>77663179
You say tomato, I say tomato.
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>>77655206
fun fact : you can ALWAYS find and manipulate "facts" to conform to ANY point of view you are trying to make if you are clever enough.
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>>77662981
Every country has its anchor of dumb people. It's like saying that without these retards our countrys median would be higher.
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Capitalism + representative government incentivizes ignorance

Plus our terrible public education system.
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>>77662981
You are only helping their argument
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Public Schools in the US are incentivized to pack their schools to the brim to get more public funds. This means that they keep bad kids in class which in turn spoils the entire learning environment for the whole class. Currently every public classroom is a toxic wasteland devoid of learning.
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>>77660886
>He blames shitskins
Okay, show me the power of your superior White education. Tell me, why are carboxylic acids stronger acids than phenols although phenoxide ion has greater number of resonance structures than carboxylate ion? Tell me, what is the definite integral of √tan x dx. Tell me, how do you find the work done in bringing a unit charge q from infinity to a distance d from a uniformly charged sheet of charge density sigma. Apparently, you should be able to do all this since these are all high school level questions in my country where most people can't afford toilets and send their kids to school. Did you think the shitskins who have money and the means to get educated are studying easier stuff than you?
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Basically it's the lack of a threat. You only grow if you have to, that's the only real rule that most things adhere to.
Four generations of Americans have endured nothing, but peace for the last 70 years. Americans have no reason to grow because things are good. You can be uneducated, unskilled, and still make a reasonable wage that affords you enough to get by.

>>77666105
Ignorant and stupid comment
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>>77667146
there are private schools?
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>>77655206
>why can't they invest in education
nigga are you serious
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>>77655206
>ITT butthurt inferior countries cowering in fear to the military and educational might of the United States
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>Largest system of publicly funded comprehensive education in the world
>Why can't they invest in education?
They might still have shit outcomes, but you can't criticise them for not trying
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>>77669328
Why don't they just make the course material harder? Why does it always have to be about facilities and money invested? What's the point of having a fancy chemistry lab when the hardest of experiments you'll do are double displacement reactions and change in melting point of ice with adding salt?
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>>77669264
>>77669328
>Still makes people pay for food in the cafeteria which is plastered with ads and shitty food provided by the highest bidder

Something here clearly ain't right. What other country makes little kids pay for their own meals?
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>>77669219
If you have the money for Private School on top of paying taxes for Public School, you can avoid having to go to Public Schools.
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>>77658359
>>77666105
>>77667146
>>77669219
muh public schools
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>>77669421
Mine, because we don't have levels of poverty that require Tuckshop to be free
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>>77669511
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>>77669526
It's idiotic, kids need to eat broccoli and shit. What kind of paying customer would buy broccoli at age 5?
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>>77669536
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>>77669555
>They sell broccoli at his tuckshop
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>>77669584
See? Nothing but girls and that one kid who's going to turn out to be gay to nobody's surprise.

Now this is what a school's diner should look like. All healthy and all free, to encourage kids to try different vegetables before the cold reality of adulthood comes creeping up.
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>>77668303
Wow, I'm sure it was very necessary for you to waste your formative high school years learning all that stuff, you must use all of it everyday in your career as a tech support scammer.
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>>77669564
>>77669536
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>>77669651
I'd never heard about Microsoft tech support scammers until I started browsing 4chan. How is this supposed to be a good comeback?
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>>77669688
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>>77669536
>take blacks out of public schools
>the school performs better
who could have seen this coming?
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>>77669711
How fucking dare you understand how statistics work, you shitlord
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>>77669693
Memes aside, my point was that it's unnecessary to teach every single high school student calculus and such, since the vast majority of students will go on to work in fields where such knowledge isn't needed. Plus, those courses do exist in almost all schools for high-performing students who choose to take them, they just aren't required. I'd rather have teenagers that are educated in the basics and aren't socially inept, unlike many Indians who spend almost all their time studying and thus have no experience talking to girls and making and maintaining friendships.
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>>77670010
Do you really think social accessibility is more important than academical accomplishments in India?
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>>77670094
>>77670010
i don't understand where this "indians are socially inept" meme comes from.
i can get why you believe in the talking to girls thing, but indians honestly HAVE to be social to function irl.
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>>77670183
Nice try Pajeet, India is a culture of autism
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>>77660411
>Northern Ireland's so low, I wonder why...
>Checks bottom
>Oh, look it's Ireland

God damn Fenian bastards ruin everything.
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>>77656449
> brazilians are not spics
That's right, you're even below us. Reminder that my cunt ranked higher than Mexico and Brazil in the latest Pisa scores.
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The solution to the perceived problems with American education cannot be solved simply through budget. To say America should spend less on wars on schools and less on war is certainly not a bad perspective, but considering that the United States already spends more per student than most countries perhaps we should consider more than funding. Military spending in the U.S. is undoubtedly bloated, but it also is necessary for our current state of hegemonic stability. Brazil, please take into account that the U.S. on average spends about eight times more per student than you.

The problem with addressing the U.S. education system is how widely varied it is. As mentioned above, there are vast differences between public and charter schools, and even among those there are considerable differences. Since individual U.S. states manage their own education systems, their budgets, policies, and student:teacher ratios are all over the board; sometimes even within cities or counties of those states there are huge differences. A point of note is that rural schools, which typically get less funding but have higher student:teacher ratios tend to see more academic achievement at the collegiate level than their urban counterparts. This can stem from the fact that many U.S. states fund schools based purely on the number of students, meaning classrooms that pack in 50+ students into a room will be getting significantly more funding than those with ten, despite the diminished returns.

When anyone discusses the posters here, you must understand that certain countries have to be seen through a lens. To be here you must have a decent handling of the English language, some computer ability, a computer, and internet access. This is commonplace among Americans, meaning virtually anyone can access this without difficulty, be they smart or dumb. For poorer countries, say for instance, Brazil, this is a barrier than tends to prevent many less fortunate individuals from experiencing this shit.
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>>77669403
>Y dunt dey make duh course materal harder xDDD
Im sure this is based off of your years of experience as an American teacher.
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