Daily Japanese Thread - DJT # 1885

>>77630508
Probably not correct but let me try

>つまらぬことをきく
listening to your foolish question...

>ボクはアルルだ
I am Aruru

>それいがいのなにものでもない
Nobody other than me

>have played through multiple (easy) RPGs in japanese (aka pokemon) while understanding roughly 75-85% of the dialogue
>couldn't pass the JLPT N5 practice test
what does it mean by this

>>77639394
what's the point of the N5 test except proving that you can barely do anything?

>>77639394
Are you just guessing the grammar based on the nouns and verbs or something?

>>77639394
>understanding roughly 75-85% of the dialogue
You probably don't understand it as well as you think you do.

>>77638779
In this sentence きく means "ask"

>>77640645
>>77640611
truth be told I just googled "n5 practice test" and did a real quick cursory run through

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>>77609354
google for い抜き言葉

「抱えてる」は、「抱える」の進行形「抱えている」のイ抜き言葉で、意味は全く同じです。
これは、連母音「ei」が「e」になる音韻変化によるものです。
例えば、「笑ってる」と「怒ってる」は、標準語(規範文法)では「笑っている」と「怒っている」ですが、そのように発音し、最近は、書き言葉でも、そう書くことも多い。

次に、「かかえてなら」は「抱えてるなら」から更に「-r-」と「u」が脱落したものです。
しかし、これには、「抱えたなら」か「抱えていたなら」と同様のnuanceも感じます。
contextからも、本来は「かかえてたなら」と言うべき所を、「かかえてなら」と言ったとも取れます。

過去・完了の助動詞「た」は、本来、完了の助動詞「たり」であり、完了の結果と継続も意味します。正確には、現代語には過去の助動詞はありません。あるのは「完了」の助動詞「た」だけです。
例示すれば、「抱えた脚」=「抱えている脚」、「破れた本」=「破れている本」、「折れた腕」=「折れている腕」となり、この「た」の連体形は「ている」の連体形に置換できます。
完了の助動詞「た」には、連用形がないため、接続助詞「て」が連用形のような役割をするということです。実際に、接続助詞「て」の語源は上代の完了の助動詞「つ」の連用形「て」だと言われています。
ですから、話者の心中では、完了のような意識があるのではないかとも思われます。

結論は、「脚を抱えてなら」と「もし、脚を抱えている(の)ならば」との差異は、「脚を抱えてなら」が「もし、脚を抱えていた(の)ならば」というnuanceを含むのではないかということです。つまり完了を用いて「そうしなくて、残念」だという後悔の感情を強調しているのではないかということです。
しかし、そこまで精緻な読み取りは、必要ないと思います。因みに、男言葉では「脚を抱えりゃ、回せるんだがな」で、「抱えれば」と同じことです。

>>77640952
There's one on the JLPT website. If that's the one you did you're screwed.

Japanese.

この歌声はずっと遠いどこかで誰に宛てるでもなく奏でられているもの
What does でもなく mean here? This "For someone, or maybe for no one, the sound is being played somewhere far far away from here" translation is correct?

仕事、はじめ!

>>77645562
誰に宛てるでもなく

I don't know if that's correct term grammar wise, but you can think of this part as an adverd modifying the 奏でられているもの, so a song that's not adressing anyone (in particular)

>>77641700
To be fair it's kind of hard in a couple ways just because it has words in kana which means you actually have to know the words well as opposed to vaguely recognizing them.

>>77645562
誰でも
anyone
誰にでも
to anyone
誰にでもなく
to no one
誰に宛てるでもなく
addressed to no one

I'm watching people talking in youtube videos a lot and I'm not getting fluent fast enough. Should I watch them at 2x speed to get fluent twice as fast?

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>>77647045

>>77647045

Doubling the speed is obviously not gonna help. You should just put several videos on at the same time. It's like a conversation then and you'll pick it up much faster.

>>77639394
I can score roughly 80% in the N5 test from the JLPT site, but I can't read for shit.
Teach me your secrets.

I'm trying to write a short introducting of myself in Japanese, but I'm unsure about what level of politeness to use. It seems weird to me ending every sentence in ます and です. How do people usually do it?

For the anon asking how to watch youtube videos not available in your country, replace "tube" by "pak" in the URL.

>>77649235
depends on your audience, in germany we use "Sie" instead of "du" as polite speech, it's not as complex as japanese politeness, but I think the time of its usage is comparable

>people who are (visibly) older than you
polite
>formal setting/work
polite (unless visibly the same age)
>people iinstitutionally/socially above you (teachers for example)
polite

>>77650521
but there are also occassions where you would address someone younger than you polite, if it's an grown up looking person you're not familiar with in a formal/public setting

>>77649235
Use the polite form for talking to strangers, generally. My professor always makes us use polite form when talking to her so I'm really used to it. I don't think it is weird at all to end every sentence with ます or です. When I've been with a japanese friend and they introduced me to one of their friends who was my age, then I used the short form. I speak in short form with my online friends, too.

>>77650521
>>77650994

To elaborate a bit more, I'm making a profile for a penpal site, so I wouldn't say it's too formal, but still polite.

This is actually the first time where I'm actively producing Japanese (rather than just consuming) so it feels extremely difficult (which is why I'm looking for penpals).

Here's a draft I've written so far, which has taken me much longer than I expected:

初めまして、
私は Anonでドイツ人です。夏から日本語お勉強しています。ペンパルになりませんか?あなたに英語とドイツ語お教えましょ。私は日本語が少ししか話せないので返事が多分おそいです。
でも、助けてくれて、ありがとう。
よろしくお願いします!

I realized that making compound sentences is extremely difficult for me still.

>>77651101
I'd use polite speech like you do, otherwise you would probably come across as arrogant

>>77651403

Trying to avoid that if I can, but I'm sure people will be a bit lenient with a beginner.

Do you think my introduction sounds okay?

>>77651524
yea it gets your message across and I think it should reflect your skill level anyway so I wouldn't even start nitpicking

>>77651759

Good point. Thanks for the advise.

>>77647270
>>77648641
ill just do 1.25 speed, faster is too much for me

>>77653281
Millennials like you who don't see the value in hard work and who won't put the time needed into something in order to succeed simply can never learn japanese. There are no shortcuts to this, simply buckle down and be patient.

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>>77653281
wait, don't tell me you're serious

>>77653791
hell i listen to lectures at 2x when I watch them in English, as long as I'm understanding some of it I think it's okay.

>>77653998
>注意欠陥多動性障害
today I learned a new word

>>77654467
add I assume
俺も初めて見た

一年間勉強してないせいでやっぱり日本語ダメダメになってる。来月日本いったらまたうまくなるといいけどね

>>77654811
二倍高速でビデオを観ると多分はやく日本語を習えないじゃないかと信じ始めるかもしれないが、実際に何も引っ付かないと僕が思う

>>77656100
動画の中の話がどれほど早いかによるんじゃない?
慎重に、遅いスピードで話してる人だと、倍速で見ると最悪でも普通に聞こえるだけ
でももともと早口の人を倍速にするとなにも聞き取れなくなってもともこもない

とにかくほとんど理解できるんなら話の密度が高いほうが効率いいと思う。一番大事なのはなんでもいいからとにかくたくさん聞けってのは認めるが

When referring to the palm of one's hand, what is the difference between 平手, 掌, and 手の内?

>>77657316
>掌(たなごころ)
literary
>手のひら
normal, opposite is 手の甲(こう)
>平手
"flat handed" as an adjective for slappin
>手の内
inside of your hand as a location, or maybe also referring to the inside of your fingers and such rather than just your palm

oh yeah, and read more

>>77657570
I see thank you

What are some good video games for a beginner to practice Japanese with?

>>77658289
anki

>>77658330
I do 1.2 hours of anki a day now give me a game

>>77658366
mirai nikki

>>77658407
wait no shit that's that manga

yume nikki

>>77658440
I'm a massive pussy
Is this going to scare the shit out of me?

>>77658645
probably not you're mostly just walking around slightly creepy landscapes

it's kind of a joke though since there's probably less than 100 words in the entire game. You're better off just listening to some corny slow japanese songs to reinforce some vocab.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q5-4yMi-xg

Anyone here know anything about college Japanese courses? I need a credit and I'm taking one next semester for shits and giggles, I already study Japanese on my own.

It's Elementary Japanese I, do you think it will even cover all of N5? Will I spend the first month of class learning hiragana again? Tell me about your Japanese class experiences.

>>77659249
Assuming you're at a college that isn't a complete joke it should at least cover half of Genki 1 or the equivalent in another series. Still pretty slow but not nothing.

>>77659335
Looks like genki 2 doesn't cover enough material to bring a student to n2, maybe not even n3

What do colleges teach after they teach through these?

>>77660105
tobira probably
then they fuck around failing to read native material for the 4th year.

Someone asks どっちが愛しくなった? (I think "which one of us has gotten lovely?"), and the person they are talking to responds with 私のが全然君のこと愛しい.

I don't get the latter sentence (also as a note, 私のが全然 is possibly it's own utterance. Not sure due to spacing)

>>77653998
>as long as I'm understanding some of it
>some of it
Nigger, I sometimes watch English videos at 2x, but only if I manage to grasp everything being said, if it's not possible I'll slow it down to 1.5, 1.25 or just conform myself to 1.0 and go for the full ride.

Instead of saving yourself 50% of the time you'd spend, you throw away 100% of it. Congratulations. Might as well throw away your remaining lifespan since you're not going to use it.

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>>77660865
I think I understand both sentences but I'm just a beginner so I don't want to feed you with bullshit

Here, I'll give you this, hopefully someone helps you

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>>77645562
>>77646567
>>77646889
この「も」は「は」と同じ「係助詞」で、節の後の「ない」に係ります。
肯定文なら「も」はalsoですが、否定文では「ない」と対になりnot evenの意味になりますが、不定称と直接結びついた場合は「なんでもある」全面肯定allや「なにもない」全面否定not anyの意味になります。
で、この場合は、「でも」=格助詞「で」+係助詞「も」:時・場所・手段など情況について、同類中の一つを示す用法で、否定文中では「そういうことさえなく」の「ことさえ」と同じ意味です。
ですから、
「どこかで誰に宛てるでもなく」=「どこかで誰かに宛てることさえなく」
even not to address it to somebody somewhere
で、不定称と結びついた全否定ではなく部分否定に近く
not to address it to anybody anywhere
とは全く異なります。結果が同じになりますが。

>>77645562
I think it's "For no one in particular"

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What in the world does this mean? Context is they're playing hide and seek.

>>77661941
It's a parody of the saying 灯台下暗し. It means
>it is darkest under the lamp post
>it's hard to see what is under your nose

I'm guessing that because she's a kid, she heard "灯台下暗し" and substituted words that she's more familiar with, like people saying "Doggy dog" instead of "Dog-eat-dog" and whatnot.

>>77662032
Ah, thank you very much. Damn kids.

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>>77662085

>>77660865
>>77661026
I figured it out by now anyways.

>>77659249
As someone who has taken 3 semesters of college japanese, it's really slow. Expect to spend the first two weeks learning the alphabets. Then expect to be slowly introduced to grammar points. I don't know what caliber your university is, but the intro class will probably be a mix of students, most of them into anime/manga or japanese games. Expect to hear a lot of cringy pronunciation. If there are any Japanese/Korean/Chinese people in your class, make sure to sit by them and become friends. They'll learn a lot faster than whitey and will have better pronunciation and intonation, so it's good to be partnered for speaking exercises. If the book is genki there will be a lot of speaking exercises. I don't like the way Genki 1 introduces grammar at all, it basically teaches you how to say Japanese things in English. Tae Kim's guide is so much better for gaining a solid understanding of basic Japanese. Honestly I'd just take advantage of the class as an opportunity to be around a native speaker.

>>77662211
That was pretty much my plan, glancing at genki I've learned two semesters of Japanese in the 4 months I've been studying.

I won't get my hopes up, but maybe the professors can point me to some extra study material that's closer to the level I'm at.

Something funny I found while enrolling for the class was Elem. Japanese I was packed full of students, I got the last seat. But Japanese II only had 5 people enrolled in it. Weebs I guess.

My school has a Japanese language club, the club photo reveals it's about 50/50 Japanese people and white people studying the language, I'm thinking about joining it but Japanese students in real life seem like they are super cringy, I'm afraid it would be some kind of circlejerk with the language learners jerking off the Japanese people the entire club meeting.

>>77662032
Doggyというmemeは、そういうことだったのか
単なる幼児語だと思っていた

>>77662136
Time and time again I always better understand a difficult phrase or sentence upon simply reading the next couple pages, yet I never fail to panic and do everything I can to try to perfectly understand whatever language I'm stuck on. I need to stop that.

>>77662357
If you're only through the end of Genki 1 you still have plenty of grammar to cover in tae kim and other resources here at DJT. Japanese II is probably empty because the courses run on cycles, so people take 1 and 3 in the fall and 2 and 4 in the spring generally, not as many people take the courses in the "off" semesters.

I would give the language club a shot, in any group of weeaboos there are bound to be a few outlier cringy people, but most people just have an interest in the same stuff you and I do, and that makes it easy to make new friends. Not all the Japanese people will be fluent. A lot of Japanese Americans grow up speaking some around the house, but if they don't go to sunday school and talk to their parents in English they lose a lot of it and take classes in uni. Just have a positive attitude, opportunities arise for those who look for them.

>>77662645
I've read all of tae Kim, all of Japanese the maga way, and went on to study n3-n2 grammar

Is that post-genki 2 stuff?

>>77662922
Well you said you only covered two semesters of japanese in 4 month, but tae kim covers more than just the first genki book. I don't know exactly how they line up.

>>77662922
げんき1&2 are said to roughly cover N5~N4 grammar points

>>77663015
Keep in mind that people who go through textbooks in class probably know the grammar points a lot better than someone who has just read about them a couple times in Tae Kim.

Classes are still a garbage way to learn a language, but people who take them do usually know a lot more than people who self study given the same level of vocab/grammar progression. The difference comes from the fact that if you self study you can learn more vocab in a month than classes teach you in a year.

>>77663567
The difference comes from the fact that most classes isolate you from input and self-studying does the opposite if you're not an idiot.

>>77663602
There's dialogues and native sentences in textbooks.
Even if you do nothing but core though you're still doing better than most people in classes. Most people can never access real native input because they take forever to reach the ~4k words point where easier native material starts seeming accessible, much less the point where you can just pick up a manga and read it with a couple quick lookups on your phone.

>>77663778
Textbook examples are finely tuned and cause extremely inefficient language acquisition as a result. Input needs to be roughly tuned to be effective.

>>77663778
>Most people can never access real native input because they take forever to reach the ~4k words point where easier native material starts seeming accessible
Except you can totally start reading with 500 words if you start with simple manga or use a dictionary, and even if it's hard it's much more effective than what classes put you through.

>>77663818
>Except you can totally start reading with 500 words if you start with simple manga or use a dictionary

Yeah, but you need to be really motivated. People in classes probably know something like 700 words after a year but you can bet they don't feel like they can read anything. If you know most of the vocab it's a lot less of a struggle.

>and even if it's hard it's much more effective than what classes put you through

This is true though.

>>77663803
I mean the amount just isn't enough for whatever the fuck you're talking about to matter much. Language learning comes with hundreds of hours of comprehensible reading/listening, and for that to go smoothly you need to know more than 1000 words.

>>77663935
>I mean the amount just isn't enough for whatever the fuck you're talking about to matter much. Language learning comes with hundreds of hours of comprehensible reading/listening, and for that to go smoothly you need to know more than 1000 words.
Worked for me, o cancerous ankidrone.

>>77663935
>I mean the amount just isn't enough for whatever the fuck you're talking about to matter much. Language learning comes with hundreds of hours of comprehensible reading/listening,
Why the fuck did you bring it up if it's pointless? Stop posting until you have a cohesive argument.

>>77663954
>Worked for me, o cancerous ankidrone.

Wow great argument there.

I'm probably the only person in this thread who has tried both methods on different languages and can actually compare.

>>77663985
You probably are, ignore those two retards

>still arguing about learning methods
Just watch anime already, it's the best method

>>77663985
You're not and you can't. Only a scientific study that controls for variables like "How similar is this language to the ones they already know" and "Is this person used to learning this way" and "Is this the first, second, third, etc non-native language the individual has learned" can compare.

>>77664018
If you only care about what the science says then why did you post your anecdote based opinions in the first place?

>>77664016
I've watched anime for years and I only know about 20 words.

>>77664201
You've probably watched a lot less than 10000 hours though.

>>77664228
I only watched around 70 series/OVAs. That's more like 500 hours. But I think watching stuff only improves language skills, but if I don't have any skills I won't learn a thing.

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>>77664342
I learnt just fine from watching anime, starting with 0 understanding of Japanese

>>77664409
Interesting. How much could you understand after 20 days of "Time Wasted"?

>>77664409
You watched it with jap subs?

>>77664471
Probably simple words that were said on their own, if even that since I didn't care about actually learning Japanese

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関係

>>77664548
99% with English subs and 1% raw

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Is this kanji grid chart for the core deck? and how do i get it?

>>77664471
>>77664548
Consider this: He watched so much that if he learned and remembered a single japanese word from each episode he watched, he would probably be fluent by the end of it (assuming fluent just means fluent and not "near native level")

>>77664664
Wait I'm wrong. A single japanese word for every THREE episodes he watched.

>>77664609
をワイと結ぶ
尻を向けろ

>>77664664
>>77664748
I don't think I learn 1 word per 3 episodes. I think it's because Japanese sounds like nonsense to me. But I'm not talented in languages.

>>77664836
You just need to listen to more Japanese, eventually it starts making sense. Will be faster if you know some words already so you can start picking up those words from the mess of sounds you are hearing

Maybe not, but that's an average. It could be one word per 10 episodes at first then slowly speed up to 1 word per episode by the time he knew 4000 words or so,then slow down again later. 10000 hours is a lot of time.

Like, every if every time you watch anime you learn the words that are said as single word exclamations like おいしい! and ひどい! and nothing else, you'll still probably be learning at least 1 word per 3 episodes for quite a while.

>>77664094
I didn't?

>>77664998
whatever you say buddy

>>77665063
Try to keep track of the conversation next time.

>>77665063
t. cancerous ankidrone

>>77665069
>>77665075
You're really convincing me here. For my fourth language I won't even learn vocabulary I'll just pick up a novel and make up my own story.

>>77665136
go for it you'll be shocked by the results

>>77665075
You come here everyday and rage against Anki and everyone who uses it. It isn't our fault if you have brain damage and can't use an excellent program such as Anki to save time and effort.

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is this /int/ or /jp/?

僕のヒーローアカデミアは凄い

>>77665910
sorry i have no idea who you're talking about but it's not me

>>77666305
Don't worry, he's one of three-ish specific people in this thread that automatically blame every argument they care about on a boogeyman.

>>77666352
that's not a coherent statement even

>>77666352
I don't pretend these 2-3 people shitting on Anki are boogeymen. I simply call out these 2-3 shitters for not knowing what they're talking about. I have no idea where you got this delusion you're rambling on about.

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>>77666448
from myself

i know it's one person because it's me :^)

>>77666461
This is /jp/ DJT level autism. It's why they hate the flags over there, so that one person can shitpost like this for 20 posts in a row, pretending to be 6 different people arguing with each other.

>>77666577
maybe the actual problem is your paranoia, the very reason you're ready to troll day in day out

i have several VPNs and a sleep disorder that prevents me from having any discernible schedule

do you have enough patience in stock, King of Schizos?

>>77666635
That's it, I'm starting my corrupted version of your shitty guide.

>>77666878
what guide

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why don't these /jp/-tier autismos use their energy for something productive that helps other anons? there is always a group of individuals who go out of their way to shit on things constantly and act like some form of meta-negative force, like those weirdos who spend thousands of posts on the Bizzard forum saying how much they hate Warcraft
what is the point in that, don't people come here because they are trying to learn Japanese?

Morning djt.

What is the function of なる in the following context?

「これは、少しややこしいのですが、「溶ける」・「融ける」・「蕩ける」の違いは以下のようになるでしょう。」

I can understand that "の違いは以下のようにです" means "the difference between X, Y and Z is as follows:" but what does the added なる do?

Source:
http://jp.tingroom.com/kaoshi/ryzwj/27097.html

>>77667050
you ni naru is it's own thing, look it up in hjgp and see if it's there

>>77666975
I think /jp/ DJTers are angry that we didn't follow them to their horrible criclejerk safespace, and instead we are maintaining the proper version of DJT here on /int/. They can't stand having a shitty autistic offshoot of the real thing.

>>77667085
Pretty sure your discord is exactly what you're scapegoating /jp/ as.

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okay, I've got a question about lapses in Anki, because my reps today were fucking awful and made me want to die
there is a plugin -forget the name- that allows more fields and sorting options to be added to the browser. having a look at the lapse function, I'm guessing these are cards you've hit again with after they have been part of the normal review cycle. correct?

there are 141 cards with 5+ lapses and I'm thinking about submitting them to Abe, to be removed from the Japanese langauge. fucking hell

Does anyone have experience with sub decks? I think it would be a good idea to add these problem words to a sub-deck and grinding them down till they stick a bit, then moving them back to the main deck.
would that screw around with card scheduling? I don't want to screw up the deck if possible

>>77667085
I'd actually prefer if the thread was only on /jp/, but without the loud /jp/-tier autismos

i need a new waifu to motivated me
who is your waifu, djt? 2D or 3D

>>77667083
Already looked it up. To be honest I am too dumb to understand what it means. What I understand is that ようになる states a change of something not done to something done. But I am not sure how I would use that to help me interpret the sentence.

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>>77667365

>>77667264
And have people samefagging the thread into the ground like they're prone to do without flags or IDs? No thanks.

>>77667152
Never been on Discord, sorry.

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>>77667365
i don't have a 2D waifu because cartoon characters don't exist, but I am in love with Shakira. She's perfect--beautiful, intelligent, creative, athletic, multi-lingual, feisty. I've had sex with a few anime characters in my dreams like Yunocchi and Homura, but if I ever make love to Shakira in dreamworld I think I will be able to die a happy man.

>>77667433
>but without the loud /jp/-tier autismos

Can I laugh at idiots who torrent """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""fansubs"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" by the GB every day to cover up the fact that I will never actually learn any of this?

>>77667507
unless they are softsubbed, those fansubs are also useful for people who watch unsubbed anime, meaning these people who torrent are helping others torrent by being part of the pool of seeders


win/win: they get what they want and we get what we want (^_-)-自

>>77667583
>unless they are softsubbed
hardsubbed*

>>77667193
I made a list out of those words to see why I keep failing them: 642 kanji and 456 only appear once. fuck. is it worth deleting those words?

>>77667583

Point being, the turboweebs who actually sit there and literally pour their entire beings into LOOSELY translating shitty high school shoujo anime #403340 can kill themselves

(I posted this in the wrong thread before, my apologies.)

New student here,

Can someone explain why the te form of 乗る (のって) does not use kanji in this example but kana instead?

"ミュージックステーションのオープニングテーマ曲にのって“Mステの階段を降りてくる”という憧れのシチュエーションを体験できます。

My books are saying it's informal but i'm not sure if that effects my question.

>>77667867
they are still doing more good than harm

>>77667915

t. David "maou9080" McGruder, encoder for Choukusoyarou Fansubs

>>77667984
without fansubbers and EOPs, places like nyaa wouldn't exist for the most part
turn off the subtitles and you have raws (^_-)-自

Should I be using Sakubi as a primary source for learning as an absolute beginner? It feels more like a thing I should parse after having a better understanding of grammar, but I honestly can't tell.

>>77668572
I don't know what that is, so chances are it probably isn't
~but, there always is, it doesn't really matter as long as you PICK SOMETHING and STICK WITH IT

cruise control, nigga

>>77668867
https://sakubi.neocities.org/ This thing. Someone on the weeb DJT was shilling it when i was finally getting around to learning grammar.

>>77669182
>This thing.
that showed up on a two different Russian boards (googled it)
is the guy who wrote it Russian or something?
hope I don't get hacked now

>>77669474
>hope I don't get hacked now
Seems unlikely to me...

>>77669474
Its in the resources for whatever thats worth

>>77669937
really? why would some random shit be added when we already have more than enough proper resources for grammar?
ah well, guess if someone is silly enough to blindly follow a random anonymous guide online then they kind of deserve any misconceptions provided
remember those guides on /b/ how to make crystals and shit when it was just different way to create toxic shit? this could be a djt version of that

>>77670234
Well, I can image Tae Kim also being some random guide once...

Hey guys :)
So I've recently found myself a language exchange partner to practise my Japanese while I teach him English. What kind of activities can we do to achieve maximum benefit for each other? My main goals lie in speaking/listening and I don't really have resources. I feel like textbooks wouldn't be a good idea. I'm around N4 level btw.

>>77670477
that site had an active forum with natives helping with corrections
this other site has literally no way to provide direct feedback and we have no idea about the anon who put it together
the two aren't comparable in any meaningful sense

>>77670540
>What kind of activities can we do to achieve maximum benefit for each other?
try anal sex

>>77667890
I don't think there's really a reason. Kanji or hiragana - the meaning doesn't change.

>>77670540
You could take turns reading English and Japanese materials, but that's not very interactive. Just pick a topic that you can or want to be able to talk about. Think of questions you want to ask and welcome questions, either about the language or culture.

>>77672579
Thanks :) Those are nice suggestions.

>>77667050
>違いは以下のようでしょう
The difference is perhaps in the manner of the following:
>違いは以下のようになるでしょう
The difference would perhaps become as the following:
なる here is really just being used as a copula and the two above sentences mean roughly the same thing. なる is like the intransitive version of する.

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>>77649235
post the Japanese sentences you made on JT
>>77661026
チンチン元気過ぎて早い
>>77665937
/jp/ for weebs
/int/ for autistic masturbator]
>>77666140
>pic

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>>77666975
教科書一つ碌に読んだこともない、やる気のない教えてちゃんは
嫌われて当然
>>77667050
>>77673367
前にも書いたけど、「になる」は基本の意味がbecomeだが ここではcopula
だからbeで訳す

1+1は2になる

違いは以下のようになるでしょう
the difference is like following;
固体が液体になる:「とける」
固体がやわらかくなる:「とろける」
･･･
>>77667890
音楽にのる=to step to the music
そのMSのvidでは、そういうこと

>>77674660
>>77675357

>>77670540
reading things in beforehand and asking for help with tricky parts, clarification etc is quite good especially if you can't talk fluently enough yet or you can't find things to talk about.

any recommendations for beginner audio courses/books? Just for train commutes and stuff

why do you do it

vn, manga, books

fuck anime and ln

not really interested in japanese women any more or less than women in general

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>>77638046
I'm going to 2chan for the first time...
Is it dead?
it reminds me of 4chan in 2006, there are days where boards have only 1 post

>>77681805
No. Both 二次元裏may and 二次元裏img boards are quite active.

https://youtu.be/Tw1Imhnw5Yg?t=11
1. what communicator is used in the video?
2. what communicators are Japanese using mostly?
3. what social networks are Japanese using?

>>77684664
LINE

YOU FAGS you're Japanese is all wrong and you're shit's all retarded!

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仕事にいるけど帰りたい…
この事務所は緊張過ぎる…

>>77686161
厳しい過ぎる*

>>77684713
>>77684713
Fuck, I'm using it since ever and out of sudden it's Japanese?

What does the 終わらせ mean in the conditonal clause「仕事を終わらせ帰ろうとすると」?
Is it a continuous form of 終わらせられる "be allowed to stop the work"? (if it is 終わらせる, I don't get 仕事を終わらせる, since "let/make the work be finished" sounds weird to me)

>>77686628
>仕事を終わらせる
that's an expression meaning to finish work

>>77686628
終わらせ is the stem of 終わらせる, and using the stem before the verb 帰る expresses the sequence of finishing work and going home.
https://djtarchive.neocities.org/bunpou/full_day.html#%E3%8A%A5Vmasu
As for the choice of verb, you could also use 仕事を終える, though that would eliminate the nuance of actively getting the work over with.

What does that たゆたってこのがらんどうの箱
mean?
行き先のないそれが彷徨い たゆたってこのがらんどうの箱に響いて鳴っているのです

>>77691165
That thing with no destination wanders and >drifts, and in this empty box< resounds.

>>77646731
How do I get better at this? Is there no other way than just reading and time? I'm on my 6th week of study.

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>tfw Japan is still asleep for hours
>tfw have to watch filthy weeb gaijin talk instead

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what the fuck is this word and why does rikai and GT not have an answer?

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I've reached a block where suddenly my retention has plummeted from 80% to 60%, should I turn off new cards until I can bring it back up?

>>77692336
絵
など

>>77692336
"There are no pictures (among other things) given for this question"

>>77692482
oh fuck me, why didn't i know that

also thank you

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Hey guys. I'm back.

I haven't done reps in at least 5 months. This fucking calculus with trigonometry class is so fucking severe, and its a summer cram course at that.

Do I really have to quit my job to learn japanese?

>>77692939
lower the amount of reps you have to do per day to something manageable

>>77692939
You really should never miss a day of Anki, at worst you can just set new cards to 0 and go review only for a while.

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>>77693036
>>77693152
how do i fix this

do i reset it to the beginning? or if i set it to something like 50 reviews/day would it be salvagable?

>>77693299
It depends on how much you remember and how many reviews that is.

>>77693299
open up options for the specific deck, reviews, then change the number for maximum reviews per day. I don't think theres any need to reset anything

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>>77693412
>and how many reviews that is

N3 this year probably isn't happening. Might've been able to pull it off if I didn't take the summer class, I guess : /

>>77693506
1 card every 6 seconds is 10 cards per minute. 3 days at 30 minutes each pretty much clears that stack. Even if it takes double that I'm sure you can spare the time. It's not that bad, just get to it

>>77692939
Calc/Trig isn't that bad

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>>77692385
nevermind, my retention was 40% today
i'm definitely just going to go review-mode, I don't know what's causing this, anyone have any similar experiences?

>>77693697
rip

>>77693697
My retention has dropped very slowly over the last couple months, nothing super drastic like what you're describing though

>>77693686
>Calc/Trig isn't that bad

My professor is chinese
He's very strict and has no make up tests

For this class, we are learning the ENTIRE Pre-Calc 2 book in two months.

The entire grade consists of 6 tests + 1 final. No homework grade, no attendance. 6 tests + 1 final exam is the entire grade

Therefore, there is a LOT OF PRESSURE to do VERY GOOD on every single test.

My first test was 71, my second test was 50, i think i just got a 70 on this week's test and i'm coming to turns with how brutal this class is. I don't think my GPA will still be a 3.6 after this class, lmao.

just asked my job to lower my hours, and looking at my schedule next week, they cut my hours in half. i should be able to pull through this.

>>77694003
I mean conceptually it isn't extremely challenging. Largely just memorization of rules. Best of luck to you, anyway.

>>77694061
This professor spams identity questions on the test. And they're closed book. There is a test every single thursday, only gives 2 hour timelimit. His questions are very time consuming. I don't even want to think about how his final exam will be.

I'm sure conceptually it isn't challenging, but in summer cram course format this is fucking brutal.

Recently I've started actively listening to music and I'm getting some serious Baader-Meinhof from 戻れない.

>>77693750
>>77693821
hopefully it doesn't mean i'm too stupid to learn the language

>>77694543
You need more motivation.

Retention is based on your brain's ability to stay motivated and actually think in japanese

If you stop thinking about japanese the second you stop studying, your retention is going to plummet. Listen to japanese music, watch japanese shows, play japanese games, make japanese friends, etc. Constantly expose yourself to it through your hobbies, and you'll see your retention go up.

>>77694617
that is true, lately I have been not watching as much anime or listening to music
i'll try to reimmerse myself, thank you

>>77694796
Also, try to make japanese friends. Even if it's just online.

Trust me, it works wonders. Maybe it'll be a girl that helps you get a marriage visa in the future? Who knows!

>>77694939
where exactly would you go for this? one of those japanese-english teaching websites?

what japenese podcasts do you guys listen to? i listen to a lot of english political talk radio and comedy podcasts but i'm not really sure what type of topics i should seek out for japanese listening...

>>77695434
>where exactly would you go for this? one of those japanese-english teaching websites?

depends on your hobbies and what you like doing.

If you want to talk to japanese normies, something like lang8 is probably your best bet.

But if you want friends to play videogames with and such, which is probably a better starting point for a 4chan shitposter, you'll want to check out something like hangame or some such

>>77693697
>>77692385
turn off new cards and chill and watch some nihongo no mori or do some individual kanji study. If it's just one day it could just be a sleep/luck thing too.

>>77695434
It's pretty much a huge waste of time until you can get them to do phone calls and actually understand enough of what they say to have conversations in japanese. Like really, you will not get your times worth for it, it would only be motivation. I'd recommend getting your listening up with easy input intended for non-native speakers. When you learn a word by its audio it's a lot easier to remember it. We evolved to speak and listen, while reading is a much more high level thing that isn't as close to how we actually absorb languages.

So THIS is the MEXT exam..

http://www.studyjapan.go.jp/pdf/questions/15/ke_ja.pdf

If you had to assign an N-level to this test, what level would this test be? N2?

>>77696115
not gonna actually take it but for material that reads like somewhat literary japanese but has fairly straightforward questions N2 is about right.

N1 is like, similarly standard literary japanese but somewhat less straightforward questions.

>>77696532
So, given the fact I want a 100% on this test, would it be possible to get N3 or N4 this year, do N2 next year, then do N1 the following year, and MEXT right after?

this seems tough, and it seems like the final boss of pre-japan japanese studies. but if it's a possible gateway into japan, I should really start preparing for it.

>>77693697
Clearly you don't watch enough anime

>>77696791
It's possible to get to N1 level in a year if you work your ass off ~3 hours a day and are diligent in your anki. Probably almost impossible to get an "easy" N1 (like, perfect reading score), but it's possible to get where you have a chance at N1.

Start with an hour of anki vocab a day, spending extra time on normal beginner stuff (easy listening+phonetics learning, tae kim, etc). Then after a few thousand words try to do lots of native material that has audio as well as transcripts and start sourcing words from that. try to keep it at the difficulty where you are looking up about 30 words per day and adding them to anki(although it will probably be more at first). Keep going and after maybe 6-8k start adding in a bunch of pure listening practice too (japanesepod advanced lessons might be good to start)

When you can read japanese pretty well and feel like you could already probably pass N1, go through the grammar/reading N2 and N1 shin kanzen masters from the CoR. Consider even making anki cards for all the grammar points.

If you do all this and keep up 30 words a day (until around 9k words when the stream of new words starts to slow) you should be at least N2 after a year.

>>77697045
Well, this was my career plan

>December 2017 - Take and pass N3 exam (this is looking less likely right now)
>June 2018 - finish associate's in community college
>September 2018 - start state-level university for bachelor's (hopefully only 2 years)
>Early 2018 - Start participating and assisting various japanese organizations to form connections I might need later while continuing state university
>December 2018 - Take and pass N2 exam
September 2019 - Start final semester at state university. MEXT might be squeezed in this year i'm not sure yet
>December 2019 - Graduate with bachelor's degree and take N1 exam. Hopefully pass
>Early 2020 - Take MEXT if i didn't in 2019. Sweat balls when JLPT results comg in
>September 2020 - Move to japan and begin post-graduate study

it's a time-consuming career plan that might mean I have to quit my current job to focus completely on japanese study and such.

>30 words a day
That's not happening, lol. I was struggling with 20 words a day until the College+Work combo destroyed everything and I aborted Anki completely for 5 months.

>>77697313
Yeah college+work+japanese would probably be too much and it would probably be hard to hit those goals. If you're really serious about japanese you should realize that you will probably need minimum 1000 hours of study and possibly up to 2000 to get to N1 level, and track accordingly.

>>77697467
>Yeah college+work+japanese would probably be too much and it would probably be hard to hit those goals. If you're really serious about japanese you should realize that you will probably need minimum 1000 hours of study and possibly up to 2000 to get to N1 level, and track accordingly.

I know this. I'm almost positive that I have to quit my job to have a real chance at this.

I have $12,000 and expect to have $18,000 or so next year, if I can get scholarships to carry me through 2 years of state university, and given that $26,000 is the amount Japan usually expects to be in your bank account to pass the financial requirement to move to Japan, I should in theory be able to quit my job for a while just to get my life together.

Even so, my friends tell me quitting work is a bad idea.

This is difficult shit, man. But I feel like it's possible...there's a lot of gravity on these decisions and it's surreal.

I need a grammar guide for brainlets

>>77697635
Honestly dude there's no rush. Depending on your situation you could just take a fucking year with your parents to focus entirely on japanese before going to the state uni (if you can defer state uni or confirm that it wont hurt your chances of getting in to one).

If you think doing well on the test is your path, it's probably better to do it a bit more deliberately and give yourself more time so that you can be more confident going forward. And worst case you'd still come out good enough at japanese that you could probably figure out a way to get a work visa.

>>77697648
Pay a lady to let you suckle her breasts while she jerks you off and whispers grammar structures into your ear.

>>77697648
Anime

>>77697691
>Depending on your situation you could just take a fucking year with your parents

My parents are dead. I have a monthly rent of $300 with my other family members, but I can easily pay that off with GI Bill payments from the military (for going to college), and i still have about $20,000 in benefits left from there that i'll be getting over the next 25 months or so. So quitting my job is financially feasible in the short term.

I'm not really going to defer state uni at this point. I'm 25 years old, I need to get into state uni ASAP. Scholarships have age limits, and every year I defer I qualify for less scholarships. I also need to keep in mind MEXT cuts off at 35 so i need to make sure I get into japan before i'm 29ish so I can safely transition into japanese college and get my master's well before i'm 35 years of age.

Also, just a personal reason, my life is almost half-way over. I spent half of my life in this country, i'd like to start my second half in the next. I shouldn't be deferring my career plan at all, I don't think.

>>77691165
>>77698312

Just started learning 日本語 about a 週 ago. I have been doing anki and tae kim for a bit and doing my time. But I seem to have trouble recalling words that I have learned. I can translate them if told or shown by Kanji. But just recalling what I know seems to be a bit of trouble. Is this normal? Will I just get better or am I just stupid?

>>77698350

(Different guy) What graduate school/academic institution do you plan on enrolling in in Japan? Do you plan on taking the entrance exams in Japanese for Japanese-only graduate programs, or do you plan on aiming for English-only graduate programs? Which universities did you have in mind? When you refer to MEXT do just mean scholarship money? I'm in college right now and kind of in a similar situation, I know nothing about MEXT or what I should aim for in terms of Japanese universities/programs that would give me a decent education and job opportunities.

>>77698722
Better start watching lots of anime if you actually want to learn Japanese

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>>77686161
>>77686237
*厳し過ぎる
語幹+過ぎる
>>77686628
終わらせて帰ろう
「せて」は使役let、「ろう」は意思will
im going to home when i let my job end
「終わらせられる」は使役の受け身です
間接疑問ですが、英語にるには、英語の使役にするしかない
だから
to be made me let my job end
(others make me let my job end)
他人をして、私に私の仕事を終わらせる
このothersが不定です
>>77696115
アダチ君、何を研究したいの?

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>>77699005
Would it be better if I watch them with out subs?

>>77699127
With subs is fine, just don't forget to also listen

>>77699005
Would you say you can benefit just as much from books?
Or is one superior?

Is there a site that comes up with cute mnemonics for compound kanji words? Yes I have read the guide.

>>77699163
Anime is better for cramming shit into your brain without thinking about it. Books are better for kanji and looking up everything

>>77699163
Just my own experience, some familiar words hit me when doing anki because of some scene I recall from anime. In no way do I think watching anime is required, but it's kind of fun to put it all together, and helps just hearing the language spoken.

>>77699267
Make up your own. It's a useful skill to develop.

I think the WaniKani deck has mnemonics though I haven't checked. But I wouldn't recommend it over training your own mnemonic ability.

>>77698970
are you trying to be...competition?

well, going from an English university --> Japanese university, usually what Japan tries to do with you is you start with english courses as you start your master's degree, then they make you take japanese language/culture courses in all of your elective slots, so you should be able to transition into japanese-only courses that help prepare you for the workforce by the time you have your master's.

>>77699097
Master's in Computer Science, with focus on programming/applications in other sectors. Of course, i'll have japanese culture/society/work as all my electives/humanities, so maybe I can minor in that too.

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>>77699097
>>77699097
*someone makes me let my job end
不定だから、こちらの方がいいか
「終わらせられる」
自発も不定による使役の意味になる

もちろん、可能の意味もあり
この場合は
to be able to let my job end
という感じになるが、
その場合は、
「終わらさられる」
となる。
「れる」「られる」は、本来の意味が自発であり、
これは、無理なく仕事を終らすことができると言ったようなnuanceにもなる
だから、こちらが、
to be able to let my job end
となる。
これに対して、
「終わらせられる」
他人に無理やり終わらせられると言うnuanceになる。

更に
「終わる」に対して「終える」という他動詞があり

可能の意味なら
「終えられる」(可能動詞「終えれる」)
to be able to stop my work
で、より積極的に、仕事を終らせるというnuanceになる。

>>77699401
東大か東工大かな、いいのは。

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Can a friendly anon translate the writing of this cap to me? Thanks.

>>77686628
>>77699563

>>77699567
Megabyte

>>77699567
メガバイト
Try Google Translate.

>tripfaggotry
>avatarfaggotry
>normalfag real life bullshit
>lazy translation requests
djt has deteriorated into a fully fledged general and become another inpatient of the /int/ oncology ward

>>77699584
>>77699595
Thanks. Tried to google it but it didn't recognize the letters as I can't see them correctly.

>>77699304
You are the guy that learned using a lot of anime right?
May I ask how good your japanese is?
Like have you taken the JLPT before?

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>>77699774
I can watch any anime without subs and understand everything except for some scientific terms or some space related words. Basically anything that wouldn't usually come up in anime. My reading skills are weaker since I still haven't spent time learning kanji but I can still read just fine if I can look up kanji readings. Furigana in manga lets me read without really looking up anything

As for tests, picture is from 2 years ago. All the scores except listening required some reading speed and kanji knowledge which dragged those down. Should score a bit higher if I bothered doing it again

Also I'm sure there's some weirdo out there who has wanted to see my anime list so I exported it to MAL https://myanimelist.net/animelist/Zoi

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Is tame incorret here?

>>77686628
>>77699563
訂正しておく
逆だな

受身も可能の意味にとる場合
「終わらさられる」
が
「終わらせられる」
より強制的で自発の意味が弱い
ただ、差異は微妙なもの

ただ、可能なら自動詞「終る」ではなく、他動詞「終える」を使う方が意味は明確になる。

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>Friday night
>want to drink but still need to get through my Anki deck
>make game where I take a shot of tequila every time I can't remember a word
>交通事故 keeps getting harder and harder
I'm going to get alcohol poisoning before I get through these last 70 cards

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Luigi, are you looking for motivation to program?
I could really use a certain feature, although I don't know about its feasibility...

>>77700255
That's a stupid fucking idea and you should feel stupid for doing it.

>>77700151

How much do you watch a day? Early on I'm guessing you looked up stuff all the time when you didn't understand the grammar?

>>77699371

I guess what I mean is, when you apply to different universities, you apply for the English graduate programs, correct? Then they slowly transition you? I'm guessing you don't actually try to apply like a Japanese person would with entrance exams and shit

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>>77700294
I felt stupid after the first third or so of the deck, but it's fun now

>>77700321
How much I watch depends on what I have to watch and if I'm feeling like watching it. I don't watch currently airing anime outside of the really long ones so usually when a season ends I end up watching 15+ episodes a day for a few weeks. I have finished watching last seasons anime and I'm currently downloading older anime I haven't seen yet or anime I want to rewatch. I think I'm still watching more than 5 episodes a day right now

I watch everything with subs so looking up stuff is as simple as looking down. I started with no Japanese knowledge and didn't even mean to learn Japanese, it just slowly happened. I don't really have problems with grammar most of the time, it's usually words or sayings I might end up having to look up

>>77700159
ため doesn't work in this sentence.

>>77686628
for example
・卵を立たせる/卵を立てる
・花瓶を立てる
in the case of the
action of standing an unstable thing, the causative sentence (立たせる) can be used.
仕事を終わらせる/仕事を終える
仕事 can not finish automatically, therefore the former can be used.

>>77700518

You mean English subs? I find it kinda odd that you wouldn't look up specific structures at times when you don't know exactly how something translates to English, but I guess if you watch enough everything'll fall into place with exposure/repetition

>>77700860
Yeah, English subs. I've only looked at Tae Kim's grammar guide for 15 minutes before deciding I already understand it all and haven't looked at a grammar guide since. I also don't try to translate everything to English and instead just understand the underlying meaning. I never translated English into Finnish to understand it either.

This does mean I don't know the grammar rules so I can't really explain why some sentences are the way they are

>>77701142

Interesting. I should probably focus more on the underlying meaning as well and not word-for-word translate. Impressive list by the way, not sure how you've got the time for that

>>77700518
>I started with no Japanese knowledge and didn't even mean to learn Japanese, it just slowly happened
Why are Finns so smart? Is it the schools, or are they just predisposed to it?

>>77701240
>not sure how you've got the time for that
NEET life is a special thing

>>77701365
I'm sure if you kept barraging your brain with Japanese for a few hours a day for 5 years you would also end up learning Japanese

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Can you recommend some games to learn weeb moonrunes in Android?

Educational games and that

>>77701403

>NEET life

Are you living on some type of universal income/welfare system or are you dependent on someone else?

>>77701365

This >>77701403 , the dude's watch like over 10k hours of Chinese cartoons

>「ユタカもそんな事を言ってたし……貴方達、本当に似てるわ」
>「でも、貴方はユタカと違って覚醒してしまったら」
>「あまり悠長なことは言ってられないかもしれないわ」
I'm not sure how to interpret the third sentence, possibly "I can't really say things so easily", but I don't know if it's directed towards the speaker or listener. Any ideas?

>>77701403
How many hours have clocked in watching anime?

>>77701463
Leeching off my parents. Could get welfare if they decided to kick me out

>>77701617
Around 12k hours not counting rewatching. Link to the list of anime I've watched is posted here >>77700151

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>>77700159
いや、普通にそう言います。
ただ、「ために」の語感からすれば、
for doing the operation
we spent 8 hours for the operation
という感じ。
これと
it takes 8 hours to do the operation
の違いということに近い。

ただ、明らかに、
「手術しに8時間かかった」というのが、最も普通で、
「その手術をするのに8時間がかかりました」というのは、
「翻訳調」という、不自然な日本語です。
そもそも、日本語からすれば、無生物主語自体が不自然なのです。
実は、この言い方は、
「(我々は、)その手術をするのに8時間かかりました」と言うことであって、動作の主体が隠されています。
なので、
この日本語に対応する英語自体が
we spent 8 hours for the operation
となるのではないですか?

ですから、結局は、
「手術をするために8時間かかった」
という訳の方が、はるかに自然です。

尚、「~が、かかった」
つまり
「私は、その手術をするのに8時間がかかりました」
は、
「雨が雨に降られた」と「雨が降った」と同じ関係で、
「私の手術に、8時間を要した」ということになります。
ですから、
it needed 8 hours for the operation
という意味が隠されています。
文脈により、訳す他ありません。
>>77701505
英語のcanやcouldには多くの意味があります。
「かもしれない」はmayに近いのですが、そこでcouldを使うかどうかは、純粋に英語の問題です。
私なら、couldもありかと思う。

>>77701657
>Around 12k hours
Holy shit mate. Could have learned Japanese, Korean, and Mandarin in that space of time.

Don't you think Japanese would be easier to read if particles were written small like っ?
And changing the は particle for わ

>>77701685
*「手術に8時間かかった」というのが、最も普通で

もう一度書きますが
その例では、実は、無生物主語自体が不自然なのです。

>>77701729
All of them?
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8A%A9%E8%A9%9E

>>77701685
*「私が雨に降られた」
かかる(掛かる)は、自動詞ですが、「私は、~に~がかかる」という表現は自動詞の受け身のような意味がある訳です。
典型的には「私に迷惑がかかる」と「私に迷惑がかけられる」
この場合ぱ、「被けられる」と書いて、他動詞の受け身にもなる。
が「かかる」自体に「被けられる」という意味が有る。

>>77695496
i listen to nhk journal. nikkei has many podcasts if you can stand the format (cute girly voice asking old expert stuff), i can't.

>>77700159
that site is incorrect.
”のに” is casual relatively, so it is not sometimes suitable in the polite situation

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お休みなさい、DJT

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Anyone recognize this character?

>>77702825
「カフェ店員なの」

>>77702925
Yeah, I just figured it out too, but thanks anyway!

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Another thing: what does 番 means when talking about baseball?

>>77702753
formalに言い換えるなら、
するのに→することに
で、その説明なら、
「することに」に言い換えればよいということになる。
準体助詞「の」から「こと」以外の形式名詞に言い換えるのは、既に解釈。
そもそも「正文」つまり文語では、そのまま、「連体形」+「に」であって、
formalなら、「するに」で実はよい。文語過ぎる表現なので使わないけどね。
つまり、準体助詞「の」や形式名詞として「こと」にではなく、「ため」を選択する方が自然かどうかが、問題。
形式名詞と言っても、この場合は、「形式」ではなく「ため」には名詞として目的の意味がある。
問題は、翻訳調の不自然さと動詞「かかる」の使い方。日本語には形式主語そのものがない。

>>77699684
yea it starts to look like the japanese thread, I swear to god if the F and these other faggots show up as well I'll abandon this shit hole

>>77703091
3番=3rd
日本語スレに来いや

>>77705397
>日本語スレに来いや
why?

What does mean 先 here?
行き先を探して行き着いた先がからっぽだなんて

>>77705757
Address.

>>77705757
行き先
destination / address / goal

アホガールの字幕で、you've got no reason not to do ての見かけて、なんか日本語の直訳っぽいなぁと思ったんだけど。
これって英語でも普通の言い回しなんだろうか。

>>77705757
which 先?

>>77706048
行き着いた先

>>77706187
physical destination
-searched for the address but when I/we got {there/先}, the place was empty

give up

>>77708280
そう言われても..この期に及んで..

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すやすや~

I understand correctly?
ちゃんと言われた通りの恰好してきた
I dressed properly as I was told

>>77705481
Maybe he's a cop trying to bust me for illegally sharing manga. The manga raws I posted are fairly new and up to date, you won't find them online.

Anyway, I'm nowhere near good enough at production to post in the 日本語スレ. Maybe in a year or 2

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>>77705757
その「先」は、「所」:目的の場所。
行き着いた先=行き着いた所。
the place (where I arrived at)

>>77711810
別に捕って喰ったりしないよ
DJTで訊くより、native Japaneseのthreadに来た方がよくて当然

>>77712968
>native Japanese
The IPs, maybe. Not so much the posters.

>>77713020
常時、3~4人はいる
日本旗の半分は、日本に留学している外人だったりするが

I'm going through Tae Kim but I don't get the conjugation for this sentence:

地下に入って、富士山が見えなくなった.

How was 見えなく conjugated from 見える?

>>77714553
見える
見えない
見えなくなる
見えなくなった

>>77658645
fuck no, the game is just slightly bizarre
even the edgier "horror" fangame, .flow only unsettles you at best

It's better that you do something else though, unless you want to learn very basic game terms and stuff like "Machine" in Nihongoes.

>>77714983

Thanks.
So if I'm understanding correctly, the negative form of a verb acts as an i-adjective which is then conjugated to form an adverb?

>>77715798
I'm not 100% sure on the the details to be perfectly honest. This is how I think about it, but maybe it's best just remembering it as an individual pattern?

https://core6000.neocities.org/dojg/entries/93.html

>>77716367

Ah, I see. Thanks again!

What does this sentence mean?
それじゃ行くわよんそこの路地で支度して
"Get ready at that alley" doesn't have a sensen for me

>>77715798
見えなくなった=「見える」未然形+助動詞「ない」連用形+補助動詞「なる」連用形+過去・完了の助動詞「た」
です。
>>77716367
(c)、(d)、(e)は、補助形容詞と形容詞です。
この場合、「ありません」で置き換えられます。

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What kind of と is this and is there any special grammar here?

I just don't get the させようと part at all and how it connects the rest of the sentence

>>77719682
It's probably like (volitional) ようとする, as in he's trying to make the toy spin a lot.

>>77719110
語順が倒置されているだけ
それじゃ、そこの路地で支度して、行くわよん
well, we'll prepare at the alley and go
>>77719682
「させようとして」の「して」が略されているだけです。

>>77720275

I was thinking about something like that, but there's no する after と

>>77720366
>>77720275

Thanks

>>77720366
How i can recognize anastrophe in future?

と means a quotation
「今日は遠くまで走ろう」と、勢いよく家を出た。

今日も勉強しなかった

日本への引っ越しまで後三週間