Daily Japanese Thread - DJT # 1884

>>77565058
新スレありがとうね

last thread died so asking for /djt/s help again >>77564087

When will the japs wake up and realize how silly kanji is and start using romaji

>口を利き出した (くちをききだした)
Translated text:
>"began to speak again"
I can't find such a translation for 利き出した or to figure out the sense of 利 there.
Any knowledge or ideas?

>>77566295
口を利く

>>77566402
Thank you, that was stupid of me.

>>77565719
sorry m8 I think most of us can't produce for shit

How old are you? How long have you been studying Japanese? What are your goals?

>>77567410
22
two years
fluently reading eroge and manga and watching anime without subs

>>77567410
28
6 years, but effectively maybe more like 3
being semi-fluent in the next few years

>>77567410
25
Several months into anki and reading anything I can on the side.
I wish to play games in their original language and to read sad panda of course.

>>77567410
22
Anime first contact 6 years ago, gradually familiarizing since
shitposts pass as native in jap site

>2000 deep in 6k
>still haven't learned many useful words
Explain yourselves, DJT.

>>77571487
Come to /jp/ where people actually care about the tools they recommend to people and core 2k/6k is constantly mocked.

Does the Anki textbox not recognize Japanese characters? I'm trying to set up typing in the answers and so far only the English text shows up.

>>77565719
Does he not know English or Russian? If you don't know Japanese, why wouldn't you just congratulate him in a language you know?

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>decide to reinstall PSO2
>see this

>>77572419
http://pso2.jp/players/news/20059/
Rest in peace

I know kana, a lot of Chinese simplified characters (most are the same) and some basics. What book do I start with? I tried clozemaster and it's fine but I feel it's going to nowhere since too advanced at this stage and I need some elementary grammar

>>77574327
I just have a lot of free time now and I think I get study Japanese for a few hours a day now

>>77574327
http://sakubi.neocities.org/

>>77571515
Dont they use the same guide

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>>77571487
Keep on truckin', anon. By the time you hit 6k you'll be surprised how easy reading is. The first 2k in the 6k deck are too seemingly random to get a grasp on the direction the deck is taking you in.

>>77574445
Is Sakubi superior to Tae Kim? Is it worth switching? Or should I read them both?

>>77571515
What do they recommend?
>>77575037
I hope youre right :\

>>77575359
>I hope youre right :\

I will say one thing: it's easier if you read while doing the Core deck. Just read. Don't worry about adding cards. Do core, read.

Do that until you finish the deck. As you go along you'll see all of those words naturally.

And don't worry about leech cards. You'll get tons of them until you experience them in the wild.

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>>77574445
Why are those written in katakana? I only met those words written in hiragana?

>>77576468
Katakana can be used to write words that are normally written in kanji.

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>finished 2k
>go through 4 volumes of よつばと!
>get annoyed with how much work adding to my mining deck from a manga is
>decide to try a light novel from the DJT library to use with rikaisama
>"let's try haruhi, I enjoyed that"
>mfw 11 mined words in the first two sentences

>>77576581
>finished 2k
how much time did it take you?

>>77576581
Doesn't yotsuba have an anki deck for it already?

>>77576865
About 3 months at 20 new cards a day
>>77577123
Yes, but only for the first two volumes

>>77577219
What happens if I study 50 cards a day?

>>77577546
Not him, but if you study 50 cards a day you study 50 cards a day. I've heard it not to be recommended because people get burnt out and avoid their reviews or get swamped by them, but it's possible to do it.

>>77571515
>Come to /jp/
a true /jp/sie would never say this

>>77577660
D-don't come to /jp/ p-please

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>>77577660
>but it's possible to do it.
That's what I wanted to hear.

As I said I know a lot of simplified Chinese characters. I studied Chinese at the university and just got back from China after one year. That's the part of my plan to first learn Chinese and then Japanese. I hope the order would help. I noticed tones of characters and their meanings are the same, so for the most part I only need to learn how to speak. I can get a grasp of the Japanese texts, like the meaning

>>77578260
I'm not an advanced student, or even yet an intermediate student I would say. I took three semesters of college classes but decided this summer I want to take my studies much more seriously and that's when I began using DJT as a resource again.

I'm not sure how many characters you know. In general it's recommended to learn the 常用漢字 list of 2136 characters for basic literacy. That is my current goal and I am working towards it using the Kanji Learner's Course (in the guide here: https://djtguide.neocities.org/resource%20guide.html#Kanji ). As far as building a grammar foundation, Tae Kim (also in the guide) is the best resource. I think people then usually move on to using a Dictionary of Japanese Grammar but I have not yet reached that point. But yeah you can do 50 and if you have the prior character knowledge and lots of exposure to japanese from media like anime and movies, then that makes it easier.

I'm understand correctly?
得てして我らは自分というものを見失いがちなもの
Often we tend to lose ourselves

>>77578768
>常用漢字
>if you have the prior character knowledge
常用漢字 in Chinese would be written 常用汉字, but it would be written exactly the same with traditional characters, which I had to study how to read, I just can't write most of them, since it wasn't required at the university

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>start a mining deck
>no longer get to hear the voices from core
There's a hole where my heart used to be.

>>77579090
So I guess it has a great help. I also have a lot of time now. I'm preparing flashcards and starting from tomorrow. 50 cards a day. Also study grammar with Tae Kim. Do you think I can skip buying any manual and just start working with texts after that?

So what is actually better for maintaining proper stats on Anki? Pressing "Again" on new cards or pressing anything else on new cards? I believe DJT never actually solved this conundrum.

>>77579629
installing true retention

>>77579330
>Do you think I can skip buying any manual and just start working with texts after that?
I'm not sure what you mean. You don't have to buy anything as all resources are online. Have you read the guide? That might answer more of your questions.

>>77579667
I meant concerning pressing again on new cards or not.

>>77579801
true retention solves that problem

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Can someone help me with the third panel, I have no idea what it means. My guess would something like this

>What, So this onee-san got worked up over nothing there

>>77576581
>Going from Yotsubato to Haruhi
Just what did you expect? That's like going to hard mode after you failed normal

What does 言う mean in this sentence? I can't understand meaning of this sentence
まあ近頃偽物に闊歩される私の言うことではありませんが...ククク

>>77576468
>>77576509
And often when there are tons of hiragana already in a sentence, they'll write a word in katakana just to make it easier to read.

>>77579937
舌の上で転がされる = 言葉で騙されて行動させられる
かな…
作者の造語かも

>>77576468
>>77576509
>>77580696
Katakana can also be used as a means of showing emphasis in a sentence.

>>77580898
So it's more "They completely tricked this onee-san", right?

1) Can 愛しい be used to mean "I love/like" in the same way 好き can be used to mean "I love" (even though both are adjectives)?

2) If yes, is the direct object of the love marked by が when using 愛しい just as it is for 好き, or is it the reverse situation and が marks the subject?

お前 の お母さん が おれ の おちんちん を カチカチ に した。 彼女 は ビッチ なんだ。

>>77567410
19, Learning it for about one to two years. I wanna watch anime and play vidya at the same time without dub. Also wanna move to japan

>>77582193
>Also wanna move to japan
permanently? You already live in a scandinavian utopia my dude

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>>77567410
28, off and on since I was 19. I can read a good 30% of sentences without Rikai. Terrible I know, but the first 5 years at least were spent on books and free websites.

I'd say in the last 2 years I learned more Japanese being here in this thread (and on /a/'s thread before this) than I did before that.

That being said, I work 60 hours/week and I'm struggling to keep up with it. But I still learn.

>>77580239
>私の言うことではありません

not a thing for me to say (not something I should say)

>>77582034
>1) Can 愛しい be used to mean "I love/like" in the same way 好き can be used to mean "I love" (even though both are adjectives)?
I dont think so

>>77581589
pretty much

What steps do you use on your cards in Anki?

>>77582491
Thank

>>77580239
>偽物に闊歩される

Anyone want to explain the passive here?

>>77579629
Press again if you didn't know it. If you could guess despite it being new, press good. Only adds a small few-minutes step.

>>77565719
This may suffice.

前日、日本語専門に優れている大学への合格、おめでとうございます。
やはり努力や計画性を生かしたでしょう。あなた自身が成功させたに違いありません。
これからも頑張ってください。

It's not perfect, but it should get the point across.

>>77578832
Yep, that's right.

>>77582034
No, it's more like saying something is precious/beloved to you.

(私は)彼女が愛しい = She is precious (to me).

>>77583560
It's for show politeness
In original sentence 申すことではありませんが
Too polite

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>>77564467
mind posting your kanji grid for that vocab?
wondering how greatly it differs to plain old core6k kanji
pic related is from my own vocab
>all that red

>>77579629
I hit good on new cards then again the next time they show up if I can't recall it
with the default deck settings those same cards will show up the next day as learning cards all the same, so it doesn't really matter either way

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>>77567410
23
three days
Just building my vocab and grammar.

I'm sure this is covered in the guide but whats a good resource for studying radicals for kanji?

>>77567410
18
2 months
watch anime without subs and talk with nipponjins

>>77584579
>I'm sure this is covered in the guide
it is, in the guide resource list

>>77567410
Too old, too long, and I've lost sight of any goals at this point. I've achieved the major ones I've set for myself over the years. Now, I'm just coasting - learning if the opportunity arises.

>>77567410
20
3 semesters of college plus self study, so about 1 year.
Be able to read untranslated material, speak and keep up in conversation with native Japanese.

I have a question about radicals. I know there are 214 of them but are variants of radicals included in 214 or are they excluded from the count ?

>>77585119
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kanji_radicals_by_stroke_count

>>77567410
25.
18 months.
Proficiency and independence within another 18 months. Maybe fluence 2 years after that.

Also, at least 3000 kanji and all counters learned in 2017.

>>77567410
Turning 25 in a few weeks
2.5 years
For fun at this point, I just enjoy, I passed all of my original goals I thought I would never get close to and I am currently trying to construct new and better ones than I originally had.

>>77585256
>all counters
Does that include irregular readings as well?

>>77585717
If you mean the normal ones like after 1, 3, 8, etc, yes. If you mean rare readings or something like that, I'm not sure. Haven't looked into them yet in detail.

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Can anyone who has gone through and done a course to learn 2-3k kanji like RTK or KLC share how it's benefitted them and improved their studies? I'm currently 200 kanji into KLC at a pace of about 20 a day, and I'm already feeling like I'm changing the way I think about and remember kanji visually and in compounds.

Right now I'm just focusing on the 20 I do a day, and it isn't horrible but I can't say it's the most appealing way to study. It would be nice to hear any positives about the payoff from others who have walked this path.

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>>77584090
Oh, this is a combined core and mine deck. First 3k of core, 2100 (learned) mined cards so far.

>>77584090
>>77586884
This is just the mined portion of the deck. 2100 words, 1524 kanji.

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>>77586914

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Sorry if this is a simple question, but why does he say 目が回る here and not 目が回っている? He's clearly in process of being dizzy and feeling dizzy/faint is a continuing action, not a momentary 1-time thing.

Maybe it's like "I'll get dizzy..." as in even though he's a bit dizzy/shook right there, he'll get even *more* dizzy if this continues?

>>77587653
Progressive is a bad understanding of ている. It's about a progressing or remaining state. Here he's in the process of 目が回る becoming objectively less true on a moment to moment basis so 目が回る is appropriate.

>>77586800
If it's still changing how you think it's doing good. The question is whether it continues to be effective for you once it stops changing how you think. That's up to you.

>>77586800
How far were you into before this? How many kanji/vocabulary could you read (even if you didn't master them)?

I think I'll only KKLC after I'm done learning 3000 kanji through vocabulary.

>>77576581
There is literally zero point in mining that early, it's an extreme waste of time. The earliest anyone should start mining is after completing 6K, and even then I'd recommend just finishing 10K first.

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>てなら

I understand なら and the meaning of sentence but why is just て? How is this possible? What does it mean? It's the first time I've seen this and can't find it anywhere else.

Why not 抱えるなら?

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Punz R Funz

What is everybody reading at the moment?

>覚醒状態を解除。
How is this actually defined? Release of wakefulness?

>>77587878
That's some good advice. I'll definitely keep in account how I feel as I progress and see how much I need the resource from there.

>>77588535
I was less than that... maybe 1k+ vocab and able to read 3-600 compounds with kanji? I'm not really sure as I just stepped up my studies after a while of going through the motions. What are your reasons for choosing to wait until you have that many words under your belt? If you read the intro to the book I think it makes a good case for why working through the 2300 kanji presented builds a good basis for literacy. 200 words in and I've already noticed a difference in my reading and how I view unfamiliar kanji. That's why I'm focusing on it a lot now to get through this somewhat frustrating part of learning that will, hopefully, greatly facilitate vocab acquisition in the future.

>>77590315
The problem is I've already learned over 11k vocab words and superficially know/recognize over 2300 kanji, so I was thinking about learning everything I need to learn (3k kanji for good measure) and only then focus on individual kanji study, which will serve more for solidifying my knowledge.

>>77590312
reads like removing a status/buff in a video game, like removing a character/enemy from an overdrive state

>>77590552
Ah ok I see. That seems like a good place to be at, though! If you already recognize that many kanji you will blast through the course in no time if you decide to do it. Even a beginner like me is finding it pretty easy to work with. A bit tedious because it's not super interesting to study character mnemonics for extended periods of time, but I am not really having trouble with remembering any kanji as I progress and use the anki deck. Honestly I don't think it matters when you start, if you want to you could start now and just do like 5 a day until you decide to go at it in full

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>>77586884
>>77586933
>these retention rates

What is Japanese grammar pattern in DOJT means? I thought ーめく was normal grammar but instead I found it in grammar pattern.

>>77591488
premade deck?

>口調には出ないようにしてたが、すごく緊張した。
The 出ないように here is just used to express avoiding a particular tone of voice (emotionless here) right?

>>77591540
What do you mean? My pic is for the 6k deck.

>>77592156
assumed there were more kanji in that deck
how many new words a day have you set for that deck?

>>77592243
20-30. Really depends on how many reviews I accumulate. I set it back to 20 once my daily reviews get over 100. I study 2 hours outside of anki every day and I don't want to spent all of my free time on anki alone.

>>77591511
DOJG*

>>77592308
>I study 2 hours outside of anki every day
ah, are you a uni kid?
impressive to juggle Japanese and all that. the only really mentally taxing part of my day is a bit of Anki plus reading Japanese, may as well be on autopilot for the rest
good shit, anon. keep up the ganbare~

>>77592589
Yea I will enroll as a math fag next year. How about you?

>good shit, anon. keep up the ganbare~
T-Thanks y-you too! To be honest learning japanese is really rewarding. Being unable to comprehend a chapter at first and then revisiting it several days later and understanding 90% is pretty cool. Just gotta think like a rpg and level up each week.

Are you paying attention to the example sentences of these anki flashcards? I try to repeat aloud each sentence a few times, but I noticed it's quite time-consuming and not necessarily has any help

>>77593110
I only read them when I'm not sure about the connotations of a word

>>77591821
Yes, that's correct.

"Although I was nervous, I tried not to let it show through my tone of voice."

Anyone know a good 四字熟語 for having no friends?

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>>77594324
Do you want to say that Japanese also has them? Four-syllable idioms? Can anyone say how those refer to Chinese idioms? Are they stolen from Chinese as well?

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Where is suru in that sentence?

>>77594722
する -> past -> した

友達と一緒に宿題をする
I (will) do my homework with my friend

友達と一緒に宿題をした
I did my homework with a friend

Its just a simply conjugation of the verb suru.
I advice you to read at least the beginners section in tae kim's tutorial: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar/past_tense

>>77594869
Oh, I thought it would be better to start with flashcards in order to have some vocabulary before I go through the grammar. Thanks

>>77594911
>I thought it would be better to start with flashcards in order to have some vocabulary before I go through the grammar
You should really use both.

>>77582491
>not a thing for me to say (not something I should say)
It's like "Not something I should say about 偽物に闊歩される"? Right?

Has anyone used duolingo for learning basic japanese? Worth doing or not?

>>77595825
Everywhere I've looked pretty much agrees that duolingo isn't a good resource for Japanese. Check the guide at the top for better resources.

>>77595825
you can try english for japanese speakers, some lessons are useless of course but it's okay overall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSxjtk3eA8M&t=3s

>>77595762
［(私の)偽物に闊歩される私］

>>77596937
神道が寝取られた

Btw what does "っかけ" in the title mean?

>>77597111
http://jisho.org/word/%E5%88%87%E3%81%A3%E6%8E%9B%E3%81%91

>>77597323
Thanks

Silly question of the day: Does Core 6k encompass Core 2k? If not, why is there a deck called Core 2k/6k?

Also, should I learn some kanji first and then tackle vocab or should I learn them alongside each other?

寝な!

What does it mean?

I always have issues with this in Japanese, does it mean go to sleep or don't go to sleep!

>>77597440
personally I'd recommend you to at least learn the radicals and make up mental images if you feel the need for it and go through the kanji by frequency, before you do this the vocabs will probably appear too arbitrary to you

I went with RTK because I didn't know it any better, it does have its own advantages, but overall I'd say you waste too much time with useless shit or stuff you'll have forgotten before you come across them again

>>77597094
Sorry, but i don't understand, what do you mean? Can i ask you translate this?

>>77584765
same boat man

>日本語は挑戦的だなあ
>japanese is challenging

is this the correct adjective?

>>77599017
>stuff you'll have forgotten
When you did RTK did you also do an Anki deck with it to keep up the memory?

>>77600833
That means aggressive. 難しい

>>77601548
Is there a word for challenge as in "I like challenging myself" - with a positive connotation rather than a negative "this is difficult and that's bad" connotation?

>僕の趣味は事を作るのです
>my hobby is making things
正解?(´・ω・｀)

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>>77579937
>>77581589
「舌の上で転がされる」とは、「口先三寸でコロコロ騙される」と云うこと。
They are so easy to be tricked by this onee-san, as onee-san wants
>>77582034
1)愛も恋も好きも、区別は人生哲学の問題。
恋は一時、愛は永遠
どちらも好きにはかわりない
2)「愛しい」は形容詞、「好き」は形容動詞
だから、「君が愛しい」の「が」も「君が好き(だ)」の「が」も、主格を表す格助詞で、対格を表しているのではない。
英訳がI love youとなるだけで、日本語の文法の問題ではない。
まあ、英語で説明しても無駄かな。

他動詞は「愛する」で、これは「を」とる。

それでは、「君を好き」が間違いかというとそうでもない。
元々、自動詞「好く」というのが古語にあり、室町時代までは「…に好く」の形が一般的であった
が、
現代語では格助詞「を」をとり,「…を好く」の形が用いられるようになった。
ただし、古語の「いとし」や「すく」は、現代語とは意味が違う。

つまり「好き」には、動詞連用形と形容動詞の両方がある。
しかも方言では多用される。
大阪弁では、未然形は「好か」で否定形は「好かん」、連用形は「好き」で、過去形は「好いた」、受動形は「好かれる」。で、形容動詞と重なる活用は動詞では避けられるが、東京弁の「君を好きです」に該当する「君を好きやで」、「すっきゃでー」と発音するが、多用される。京都弁でも「君を好きじゃ」がある。で、最初に「君が好きやで」と言い、2回目で「君をすっきゃでー」という様に使う。
だから「君を好きだ」には確認の意味がある。
だから、明治に標準語を作る過程で、「君を好きだ」が排除されたのではないかと思う。

>>77591821
口調には出(さ)ないように(は)して(い)たが、すごく緊張した。
I made an effort so that my emotion could not be sensed from tones of voice, but I was extremely nervous.
Therefor, you can say "I tried to express avoiding a particular tone of voice (emotionless here)"

>>77600863
it's been a while and I didn't even know anki existed back then, I have made cards out of paper for each kanji

>>77594324
Love the life you live. Live the life you love.

天衣無縫

気宇壮大

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>>77583560
「闊歩される」は「闊歩する」の未然形に可能・受身・尊敬・自発の「れる」がついたもの
「偽物に闊歩される」は「偽物が闊歩して、迷惑だ/困った」というような意味で受身
まあ、「る/れる」の語源からして意に沿わない自発とも取れる
>>77589178
かかえてなら=抱えれば/抱えてみれば/抱えているのならば
仮定・条件を示す
I think I can swing you if I hold your legs
>>77594324
世界平和 支離滅裂
人命尊重 有名無実
被害妄想 珍紛漢紛
百鬼夜行 厚顔無恥
まあ、こんなもの
意味がとれれば、面白いだろう
>>77595762
「私の言うこと」=「私が言うべきこと」
「偽物に闊歩される私」これは「私を偽物が闊歩している」ということ
続ければ、
「偽物に闊歩される私の言うことではありません」は「私を偽物が闊歩しているというのに、私の言うべきことではありません」
ただし、「私を偽物が闊歩している」というのは、かなり電波な表現
>>77598208
=寝ろ

>>77605771
訂正
「偽物に闊歩される私」これは「私の意に反し、偽物が闊歩している」ということ
続ければ、
「偽物に闊歩される私の言うことではありません」は「私の意に反し、偽物が闊歩しているというのに、私の言うべきことではありません」
こうと取れば、意味は取れる

这里有中国人吗、?

>>77605986
*こう取れば

为什么日本人、不愿意去大陆?

>there's a board called そう-だね on 2ch with nothing but posts reading そう-だね
>そう-だね is spam filtered on 4chan

Someone explain this epic meme

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>finally feel confident to try writing
>remember Lang8, a blog-like website where natives would correct your mistakes
>go there
>"no new registrations allowed"

What the fuck. I'm getting bored of just reading and listening.

>>77607902
Try hellotalk

>>77608055
is that the phone app? that seems more like it is for asking specific questions than writing blog entries

>>77605771

>かかえてなら = 抱えているのなら

That's great, but a couple more things: Why abbreviate from ている to て her (just for the sake of making it shorter?) is this the only circumstance in which this occurs (is it common in other structures too), and is the meaning exactly the same (かかえてなら vs. 抱えているなら)?

Thanks for the help

>それだけ言うと、姉さんはスッと身を引いた。
>そういうことなら。
>どのみち、彼女とは話さないといけないし。
>……引かれてなきゃいいんだけど。
Is the 引かれてなきゃいい expressing "I would like to not be pulled (pressured) into this though"? I'm assuming it's shortened for 引かれていなければいい.

>>77607255
For april fool's day a year or two ago one of the popular 4chan extensions did something where responding そう-だね would be like a (you) or something, I don't really remember it but no-fun mods put that in the filter because of spam and have never taken it off.

someone know a (light) novel from the guide ressources that's close to the everyday world, but still interesting to read?

usually I love fantasy and sci-fi stuff, but they often flood you with very specific words

>>77608055
Absolute normie-filled garbage where no one goes over the "how are you?" stage.

>>77610529

There are a bunch of romcoms like やはり俺の青春. Fantasy vocab is not a big deal though.

>>77594324
天涯孤独
>>77610529
砂糖菓子の弾丸は撃ちぬけない
The only person who knows what you'll find interesting to read is yourself.

>>77612928
>>77613299
thanks, I'm just looking for some easy read on the side

>>77612928
>Fantasy vocab is not a big deal though.
that depends on the setting I'd say

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>it's another the onyomi is "sei", "kei", "shi" "chou" or "shou" episode

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>>77615077
>http://jisho.org/search/%E7%AD%8B
it's another 筋 has a thousand different meanings episode

>>77615077
I've always been curious which syllables and combos come up the most in Japanese

I feel like ぬ is uncommon
and I can't tell which of しょう, しゅう is more common.

Are there any books on the same level of Yotsubato?

「しんとそらぞらしい空気が流れる。」

This is said after someone enters a classroom. What are some ways this could be translated into English?

>>77618312
しん=新 and そら=空
Is this right?

>>77618554
https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/jn/115212/meaning/m0u/%E3%81%97%E3%82%93%E3%81%A8/
the other is right

I think it's just saying the "room got quiet" in a fancy way.

>>77618135
read the guide

>>77618718
Okay, thanks. I was pretty off, made it too literal

ズボンマン

I'm doing the KanjiDamage Reordered deck and my daily study is 100 reviews and 30 new cards a day but I'm having trouble actually doing all of these

is it alright to reduce the amount I go through?

>>77598208
寝な! is "Go to sleep!"
寝るな! is "Don't go to sleep!"

>>77602993
物を作ること or 物作り might be better.

>>77600833
I wouldn't use an adjective, but say something like 日本語は挑戦するところがいっぱいあるなあ.

Not sure how natural it is, though.

What is オルゴール?
Just "music box"?

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>>77619673
Yep. Comes from the Dutch "orgel".

>>77619363
What is the conjugation with な called? I want to read more about it.

>>77619779
Short for なさい

are you good enough to use a JP->JP dictionary /djt/?

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>>77620191
Yeah, but I don't use it as often as I should. This is the one I have. It's compact so it fits on my desk without taking up too much space.

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>>77619814
Thanks

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>>77565058
New manga volumes published today!

三ツ星カラーズ volume 4:
https://mega.nz/#F!sFoQlZ5T!jAS5RMK8C3QccqIbcOulsQ

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>>77620646
きんいろモザイク volume 8
https://mega.nz/#F!UcozyagL!lPwfhMiwK3Z26YvkPIWN6Q

Also published today but not the non-kindle ebook version:
三者三葉 volume 13
ペンにまします神サマの volume 2
ふたりでひとりぐらし volume 2
These should be up soon enough, sometimes Rakuten is a few days to a week behind Amazon with this. Going to grab these when they become available.

Is there a site or app that can help me make a Japanese name?
I want a name with specific characters

>>77620646
>>77620678
どうも

>>77622171
what do you mean, you want to make a name using some kanji you know?

>>77622369
yeah exactly
Something that will tell me all the possible readings and maybe make it sound like a legit name as well.

>>77622400
You could take try different combinations and put them in a name dictionary (jisho would work I guess) to see if anything comes up.

give it to me straight

is remember the kanji a meme method in comparison to others available today

>>77623047
yes, it's downright terrible in comparison to others available today

>>77623047
People still use it because there are a shit load of online resources for it (there's an entire forum dedicated to the method), but I mean the book is from 1977 and there are options that are more developed

What does ”エコエコ” mean?
I cannot find it in a dictionary.

>>77623456
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eko_Eko_Azarak

Always post context.

>>77623593
A guy is mad because he saw an excessive amount of litter (fireworks) on the ground and said this:
誰だよ!?花火で遊んだ後片付けてないのは!?
エコエコ言っときながらこーゆーことするやつがいるんだから まったく...

If that's the context, would エコエコ still be short for エコエコアザラク?

>>77623892
I believe he's referring to being ecologically friendly (not cleaning up after playing with fireworks would not be ecologically friendly).

"People fuss about the environment (being ECO-friendly) and at the same time litter themselves."

>>77623047
>>77623147
>>77623237
man if you guys want to talk shit offer alternatives that are better

>>77624093

Learn kanji with words, not kanji alone. It's been repeated for years on DJT as the most efficient way to learn for people who have no previous knowledge of chinese characters.

I have to reach N5 to enroll as an exchange student by late October. I know Hiragana and Katakana and approximately 300 words. How fucked am I?

>>77624260
Considering the next JLPT isn't until December, I'd say pretty fucked.

>>77624260
Next exam date is in December only I believe...you sure fucked up son.

>>77624072
Oh, so it was エコ twice, then?
Thanks.

>>77624291
>>77624303
It's the JCAT, not the actual test.

>>77623237
>1977
The most recent edition of RTK1 was published in 2011

>there are options that are more developed
Not really, it's all variations on the theme of radicals and mnemonics. There isn't really much of a reason to use one over another, aside from premade Anki decks or websites like kanji koohii.
The approach is about as developed as it can get, something we've been using for thousands of years to remember and recall facts, stories and figures. Stop with the brand wars because it's the same at the end of the day.

>>77624216
It isn't a dichotomy, no matter how much some people want to make it out to be. Kind of ridiculous that people still push these insecure methodology binary situations, really. This whole kanji isolation vs vocab doesn't exist in reality because no one studies in a vacuum, insulated from the target language.
I swear, the people who promote this bullshit aren't the ones who are actively reading and listening to the language at all. These methodology maniacs remind me of those on /g/ who do nothing but argue about computer operating systems, software and programming languages they don't even have any experience with.

>>77624556
It is a dichotomy, unless you have 5-10 years to simply start grasping the language. Most people have lives you know.

Parents offered to let me study abroad for a semester, I was thinking of going to Japan for a bit. Is this a good idea? Anything I should know before I decide to do this?

>>77624810
you can't learn japanese

>>77624810
You need to be 18 years old to post on this website.

>>77624836
Yeah, I know. If I do it it'll be in about 2 years so I'd like to have a very basic understanding of the language so I'm not (completely) bumbling around like a dumbfuck.

I just figured this was a decent place to ask what to expect out of the trip in general, I didn't feel like that warranted its own thread.

>>77624865
I'm 19 nigger

>>77624903
the better thread to ask would be 日本語スレッド. Unfortunately, it's been under a ceaseless seige by an unrelenting spammer for months now and has essentially ceased to exist, having caused all the posters and actual japanese folk to just disappear.

>>77624881
Make sure to read the guide and get your shit together unless you want to end up like >>77624260 scrambling to reach N5 level.

>>77625008
I am that guy, is it impossible?

>>77625201
stop asking us and start studying
it took me 6 months to be able to read simple childrens' stories, you better start cracking

>>77624260
First 500-1000 should be safe I'd say

Hit as many as you can.

頑張って

>>77567410
22
>2 years (on and off, renewed interest recently)
>Finish getting fit, go to Japan and find a Christmas cake that'll marry me so I can stay there

Then I'll use their system to slowly climb the ranks of their society and learn how they build their giant fighting robots.

>>77625201
Study hours a day and use Anki. You can do it.

how do you say "through" in japanese? As in "the water flowed through his fingers"

>>77620646
Volumes 1-3's Mega link has been taken down from the CoR. Anyone have it?

>>77624556
>It isn't a dichotomy, no matter how much some people want to make it out to be. Kind of ridiculous that people still push these insecure methodology binary situations, really.
Sounds like some social science discourse!

But I agree, learning how to write doesn't even take that much time, >>77624695 implies it would take years when in reality you can do it in less than 3 months with 1 hour of daily study. Then it's just minimal maintenance routine to keep it fresh.

>Most people have lives you know.
And most people write like shit, just like you. That's not what some of us are aiming at with learning a new language.

>>77624093
KKLC. Pretty much the same, but a bit less retarded.

>>77624903
And I'm 22 Brazilian.

>>77625582
Depends on the situation. 経る and 通るare a good start. From Jisho:
http://jisho.org/sentences/51867822d5dda7e981018dad
http://jisho.org/sentences/518664d5d5dda7e981002a76
http://jisho.org/sentences/518663f5d5dda7e981000e17

>>77625582
を or に
穴を通る
手元に流れる

>>77625716
Ignore my post, I hadn't clicked the link yet, which contains all four volumes. (Thank you)

I used to think this was just a silly song with silly animation
now that I actually understand the story behind it it hits me in the heart every time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_os8HqfxHc

>>77624260
>I know Hiragana and Katakana and approximately 300 words
Isn't that pretty much N5 level already

>>77624093
>>77624556
kanjikoohii defense force please go, with KLC around there's literally no reason to do RTK anymore. It's far superior

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こんばんは、皆さん。
外人先生です。
僕は英語授業をおしえて。
いま、自己紹介ですよ。
こちに初めましょう!

How is the above? My grammar is still relatively poor...

>>77619215
Reduce new cards instead. Lower new cards = lower review in long term. Most people do 20 new cards a day but that's just preference, do what works for you as long as you're consistent. IMO, 10 cards daily is best for kanji.

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>>77627014
What a wimp sensei, I feel like ijimeing you back to the UK!

Here's how you address your students:

ほrrrrrrrrrrら、貴様達、よく聞いて!
外人先生だぜ、陛下でもいいぞ。
何らか英語の知恵をやるぞ、ほしいのかい?
じゃ、今日は自己紹介。いいじゃないか?
うっす、始めろ!

この歌声はずっと遠いどこかで誰に宛てるでもなく奏でられているもの
What does でもなく mean here? "Not addressed to anyone"?

>>77624260
I don't see a problem if you can go into neet mode

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>>77565058

>>77629109
where does everyone get this background

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>>77629249

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>>77629287
Thanks

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Can someone translate the convo from 6:07 to 6:33? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zm-CZ8BArA

Please and thank you!

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>>77629364
(ゝω・)v

>>77629436
A:くっ!ボクが…負けるなんて…
B:キ、キミは…キミはいったい 誰なの?
A:フッ…つまらぬことをきく…ボクはアルルだ!…それいがいのなにものでもないっ!!
B:…
A:しかし…負けてしまった…
B:あっ…

:＾)

>>77615077
「こう」という最悪な音読みを忘れるな

>>77628840
Yes, but 〜するでもなく hava a nuance.
https://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/8022100.html

>>77629792
Thanks

>>77610164
助けて。。

>>77630005
http://maggiesensei.com/2010/11/20/〜なきゃ&〜なくちゃ-nakya-nakucha-suffixes/#comment-56155

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>>77630175
maybe that page won't load so, pic related

>>77629792
Oh, and can you help me with this line?
>フッ…つまらぬことをきく…ボクはアルルだ!…それいがいのなにものでもないっ!!

The first part didn't seem to go through Google translate well.

>>77630175
It's not the contraction I'm having issue with, it's the uses of 引く (引かれる here) that I'm having issue with. Some more following in same reading:
>手を取って引かれた。
>彼女はちっとも引いてなかった。

How do you watch a youtube vidoe that isn't allowed in your country or whatever?
Sometimes I can download the video from a different site but those sites don't always work.

>>77631322
I'll answer if you ask again in japanese

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>>77631848
どうやって自分の国が禁止されたYouTube動画を見るのか?
運がよければ見えるようにあるサイトからYouTubeの動画をダウンロードできるけど、これは確実な見る方法ではないね
他のサイトとかある?

>>77632044
Holaって言うプログラムを試してみて
VPNみたいにパソコンのIPを偽り、動画を見られるようになるかもしれない

>>77632044
わからない _(:3」∠)_ wwww

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>>77632176

>>77631322
have you tried youtube-dl?
can you give me the link?

>>77632131
>Hola is a "value exchange" network - you get the service for free, in exchange for providing a certain amount of network and processing power when your device is idle.

本物のVPNだようだけど、
やってみようかな
ありがとうね!

>>77632381
Didn't know about that.
I'll try that first, thanks!

>>77632656
I don't know if it works frankly
that's why I asked for the link
but tell me if it does

How big a leap is it from N3 to N2? Was going to do N3 but I think at this rate I'd rather scrape a pass on N2 than do really well on N3.

>>77633175
They say that every N level is approximately double as hard as the previous one, since it requires everything from the previous level, plus an amount of new stuff that's the same as the distance between the previous one and the one before it.

>>77632656
>VPNだようだ
だ cannot be used like this. だ is the 終止形. You need to use the 連体形 な or the particle の.

>>77629962
>https://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/8022100.html
Hmm, it's so confusing. Then meaning might be like "is not for somebody, however this for nobody"?

>>77633426
The practice tests seem very similar though. I'm mainly having trouble finding resources that don't overlap with the N3 content I know. Also can't find much on those stupid little phonetic grammar points that nobody every uses but show up in all the practice books.