FIGHTER JETZZZZZZ

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>Wakemeup.png
>It was a few years ago
>No obviously
>F16 or Saab thing

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We use Mig29's rn. Kinda outdated and not even the latest version, obviously we didn't make it. We plan to modernise our air Force but they're not sure if they want American F16s, F18s , European euro fighter, swedish Grippen or just the Russian newer version of the Mig29's or su 30

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>>77438108
>ywn see an F-16 painted in SENPAI camo

>>77438357
We all know our F-5s are very very dead
That's why they haven't even taken the effort of painting them in our new standard air cammo
We will have to wait

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Minus those burger F-15 and F-22 that came for exercise this is all the planes in service.
Hornets for multirole and Flanker-H as missile boat, MiG-29 is retired now and MH17 caused a halt to any orders on slav stuff.
Only manufacture disposable equipments.
The Flanker needs air conditioned bunkers all year, less user friendly and worse customer support so the air force favours the Hornet and western stuff. Still they modified the Flanker to carry paveway 2 bombs recently and other western munition may be in the works.
Jet programme put on hold for light helicopters and more ship hulls due to maritime concern after pirate invasion.

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>>77438108
>>77438456

>not flying F-5s with state-of-the-art eletronics

Do you guys even poverty?

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>>77438496

>>77438496
>Not sending Hawk training jet to dogfight F-22
>>77438491
Do you even extreme poverty?

>>77438555

We actually done that against USAF's F-16 a few years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_America_air_forces_maneuvers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzEDl973kUg

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>>77438496
The Air frames are done
Them being our main fighter since the 1980s we took of them everything they got
Its clear that repairing them is not going to cut it. We still send the 3 to 6 that are still air worthy to take part of interception exercises with the USAF but they are better now sitting next to the T-33s and Vampires at the air force museum.

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Hello there my fellow 3rd worlders.
A4 "AR" Fightinghawk.
Its an A4 with a F16 radar (ARG-1 v2=AN/APG-66).
I dunno man, most likely an old F16 block

Eurofighter Typhoon.
Actualky it's pretty good, it's issues rather heir from severe underfunding, bad quality checks and too few spareparts.
Also our pilots fly too less.

But the aircraft itself is really good.

>>77438833
>>77438979
Isn't that more of an attacker plane?

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>>77438740

After the last modernization they won a few more decades of life, but it was limited to electronics and radars since the airframe is also close to death.

>>77439163
For us modernising them is financially pointless, just to give live to a frame that is decades old.
The new blocks of F16s assure a good supply of spare parts and modern equipment, we have no need for ultra stealth cant fly in the rain fighters so they will be more than fine
In 2006 our air force asked for 48 F16 and the navy asked for 12 to 24 F18
Congress deny them so the F5 were left to rot
Just now we replace our PC7s our military runs on a very tight budget

>>77439548

Why don't buy Gripens or Israeli Kfirs?

>>77439661
Gripens are in strong considerations
Kfirs were going to be our fighter, but the Americans blockaded that purchase
So its better to play safe with F16s, but its still not clear

>>77439720

>but the Americans blockaded that purchase

Why?

>>77439768
The engines were made by an american company
And they used some bullshit about copyright to prevent a sale that wont give a profit to the company that designed the engine
The Kfir purchase involved a production plant in Mexico to sell the fighters to Latam and provide spare parts to our own Air Force

>>77439799

Doesn't make sense veto something that goes to Mexico, an ally.

>>77439879
It was just for the engines, the engine manufacturer saw a loose and lobby the US gov to blockade the planes

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Eurofighter

I think it looks beautiful while moving

>>77440034

Why?

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>zero (0) fighter jets

no 5th generation for us, we are latin america-tier in terms of technology

>>77440304
Because money
Israel Aircraft Industries was going to make all of the cash from making their planes here and selling them not only to us but to more latam cunts with cheaper prices
So they blockaded that
>>77440367
>51 aircraft
Wew...

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>>77440429

PAKFA?

>>77440517

Cunt move desu.

>>77440574
Su 50 is so fucking gorgeous

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>>77441499

34 is more bae and has a toilet.

>>77437828
>Dunno
>Dunno
>I doubt it
>Dunno

>>77441890

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilean_Air_Force#Current_inventory

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>>77437828

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>>77437828
>still nothing in the world that can top this

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PLS BUY

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>>77442704
PLZ OFFER
We like br planes

>>77442731

Ur govt has to sign a interest letter.

>>77441647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBMvOZcDKT8

>>77442508
Thanks :DDD
May not be best but is cutest

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still prototype but we are working on next generation stealth jet with US and UK.

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>>77437828

>>77443482
Aishiteru, Nihon

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>>77443392

>dem maneuvers

Sexy.

>>77443482
You should call it the mothra

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Come at me bro.

>>77444199
Is that a dive bomber

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Fear us

>>77444685
Noice

>>77437828
F-18 and Typhoon. The F-18 is quite old now (they arent super hornets) so we are looking for a replacement for them, most probably the f-35 in a joint bid with the navy

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>>77444882
Forgot pic :v

>>77444671

CAS.

fighter jets are pretty cool, how can I learn more about them

>>77438914
German engineering man. Post a pic of it

>>77437828
We don't have any fighter jet because we have no Air Force

>>77442704
that thing is as ugly as the sun face on Argentina's flag

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Arsenal bird

>>77444928

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJDEWtLJkBk

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>>77444994
>blocked in my country by cbs
thanks anyways. seemed interesting desu

>>77444994
>>77445014
I think I found it on the smithsonian youtube channel

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We still use F-5s. Singapore is a shit country, very third world.

>>77445014
>>77445032

Search Documentaries on YT, there are tons about any aircraft.

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>>77445042
Was this thing my imagination?

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su-35 is top of the line here, not many of them actually in the airforce
supposed to be the most maneurable in the world
actually this week's MAKS airshow su-35 demo vidoes are going a little bit viral because of the stuff it can do in the air
https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/888062787272019969

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>>77445235

>>77445235
I know it's impossible at this point, but i still hope that T-50 will be cancelled in favor of more Cy-35C.

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>>77445402

Aren't Indians also financing it?

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>>77442704
Sorry already 4 A400M in service.
Yurop pls don't SAM them when they return home from Spain.
>>77444928
Go to air force open day and international airshows.
Bring some kids too, some like Dassault only give souvenir packs to kids while BAE booth gives posters regardless of age. Don't bother asking Russia export they are too stingy for free posters and its the same for chink booths.

>>77445606

>Yurop pls don't SAM them when they return home from Spain

Yeah weren't some of them with problems from engine?

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About to be invaded by NORK

>>77444986
stop being rude to this tiny ilyshin

>>77445544
and I am sure they not pleased

>>77445751
From what I understand its
>gais lets use the proven burger engine
>nope EU stronk can make own big engine
>engine and software problems pls say prayers now

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>>77445891

I read they'll only pay if they get full tech transfer. Doesn't look good.

>>77445968

So politicians being politicians.

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>>77445840
>props probably making a comeback for low-cost CAS COIN

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>>77446053
They seemed to have fixed it, this one only came for an airshow before going back to Spain to fit the engine which allows them to carry 30ton.
The pilots have been practicing by carrying around EC725 helicopter just fine.
Sorry for potato quality camera.

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>>77445042
You Have F-16 Block 52s and F-15SGs

IIRC the newest of your F-16Ds are built to a similar standard as Israel's F-16I Sufa

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>>77446421

Nice, it's actually bigger than most competitors as well.

There will be an Airshow here next month and the KC-390 will be there. I'll go and take some pics.

>>77444951
Sorry, i fell asleep as it was already 4a.m here.
But some others posted pixtures of it here and you should find aplenty of content on yt.

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>>77437828
ИЛ-2.
It's amazing and very cheap.

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>>77446736
Here you go.
>missed the chance to get in due to too many visitors
Next time for sure.

jets have no soul
any aircraft produced after WW2 is soulless
jet "dogfights" are utter garbage compared to pre-50's aerial dogfights

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>>77447143

>any aircraft produced after WW2 is soulless

No.

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The Euro fucking fighter

>>77447143
Please be bait. Modern jets can effortlessly climb high enough to see the curvature of the Earth, they can effortlessly perform insane high speed maneuvers that would turn any WW2 era plane into cheese, and they do it all at incredibly high speeds. When humans dreamed of flight, this (skip to around a minute in) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAKD_eeM5kU is what they wanted to experience, not the loud uncomfortable death traps of WW2.

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>>77447143
>Irish Air Force

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>>77447596

Just realized the Texan and Pilatus are the same design.

>>77442704
>>77445606
Heavy military transport aircrafts are just gorgeous. I'd love to fly one of these. Can you imagine landing this winged behemoth? Pure beauty.

Ahh yes ye good ol' Typhoon

German version can't even drop bombs and is so good as a multi-role jet that we decided to send our Tornados to Syria

>>77448148

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iglHD1OzBWw

>>77448273
you know the reason we sent tornados is that the government doesn't want to drop bombs right?
or are you pretending to be retarded?

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>>77448148
HUGE
Still feels kinda bad for the crews, they were proudly explaining about their plane to visitors until.
>how many bombs do you carry
>sir this is a logistic plane
>interest lost.jpg

>>77448122
Yeah, the T-6 was based on the PC-9 but with various modifications to its shape - the canopy is the most noticeable one

I think the PC-9 and PC-9M (version that Ireland use, with a larger tail fin) look nicer though

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PLEASE BUY OUR PLANE

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>>77444685

I love how the fuel tank's positioning makes it look like a huge fully erect cock.

>>77448669

Interesting.

Even though it's weird americans using foreign designs for once.

If you REALLY like airplanes you can check ratbat on e621

>>77444685
>F18
>not buying gripens
rude

>>77448763

I like how Sweden insetad of participating with the rest of europe on military projects like Typhoon, radars, etc, rather design their own stuff.

>>77448904
cant remain neutral if you dont build your own stuff

instead you'll become an american puppet like norway and finland

>>77448410
No, I know they are there for reconnaissance missions

I'm just wondering why we would send in 30+ years old planes that were supposed to be decommissioned anyway instead of our new supposed MULTI-ROLE jet

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>>77448849

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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>>77448951

It's what the military and companies been trying to. Hence why we asked tech transfer from SAAB.

>>77448273
because we have the Tornado for that, even though we will also fit the Taurus on the Typhoon.

>>77448951
Norwegians add stupid and lazy. They could never build their own jets. They're basically white Arabs.

>>77449371
*are

>>77448988
because the typhoons aren't multi-role recon, but A2A and (((A2G)))
also we will keep the Tornados for a while, until we have a "new" nuclear carrying capable plane

>>77449480

Germany will prolly go for F-35 like everyone in europe.

>>77449560
or we will, if lucky, get a decent plane out of the french development. roadmap is taking a long way, but that would keep the industry here. seriously doubt that though, because as usual gubment retard shennanigans

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we have the Rafale but it's just lame desu

>>77449626
Lmao French dassaultbabby detected. Turn off your vpn

>>77449480
Nah Typhoon is multi-role and should easily be able to do recon

Just slap a pod under there and you're good to go

Keep in mind Tornados are only flying cause of the nukes

Inb4 German and French cooperation for a new plane that takes another 20 years to finish and is old the second it is released

At least we didn't fall for the stealth meme

>>77449626

I read in a blog here that Europe wants to make it's own 5th gen fighter.

>>77449675
just saying a Two-Nation project might bear a better fruit than the clusterfuck combination that the eurofighter production and development was. the shear need and specs for every super snowflake configuration pretty much stalled the eurofighter and brought up a ton of problems.
that doesn't mean that this isn't a possiblity for the Goymoney/Francrabia project, but it might be not as severe with only "two nations"

>>77449833
always possible
>>77449891
germany and france are looking forward to develope several new weapon systems together. new MBT, new plane, upgrades for the Eurocopter Tiger and several other things

in other news germany and japan just signed a military technology deal
Axis Powers revival

>>77449371
Germany hasn't developed its own fighter planes since WWII.

>>77449986

>Axis Powers revival

Where's Italy?

>>77450140
First of all we have and even if we hadn't we still develop top tier tanks, guns, submarines, etc etc.. Norwegians produce nothing. You see white oil Arabs. Swedes are 10x superior.

>>77448868
>tfw waiting for the swedish stock market correction to buy saab
Crash already you cunts.

F-5 piece of junk.

>>77450140
>>77450210
germany makes okay submarines and norway makes some niche weapons like missiles
kiss and make up
europe overall is meh at weapons

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>>77450170

>>77450260
Meh submarines? Everything we produce is better than your shit. You are good at producing third world shit, that's it. You can't even produce proper tanks.

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F16 Fighting Falcon

>>77450388

Yeah makes sense.

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>>77450431
>You can't even produce proper tanks.

>Soviet Union designed simple tanks for mass production
>Russia decides to make a hi-tech tank design
>it's superior to every single Western tank design

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F-22 for air superiority

Without a doubt currently the greatest air superiority fighter in service

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Why haven't you guys bought some nice F-35s yet?

>>77450876

>it's superior to every single Western tank design

It's been never combat testes and prolly never will. Also Russia is too broke for mass production.

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>>77437828
All 12 of them.

As far as I'm concerned, we shouldn't be wasting money on building up an air force. We should just cancel the whole thing. Our Balkan neighbors are too poor to invade us and we're too poor to fight against a larger relevant country.

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>2017
>spending fortunes in flying expensive coffins
Meet our EMB-312.

Jets are worthless piece of metal, now days, with long rage earth-air missiles, air planes have a few applications, and simple go real fast is not one of them (not a useful).

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>>77450930
I only have a few F-22 webms

>>77450876
>>it's superior to every single Western tank design

How do you know? It has yet to see combat.. did Sensei Putin tell you it's superior?

>>77450980

>312

314, dumbass.

>>77450876
What good are tanks for a country like Brazil? I can't imagine you guys getting into a land war anytime soon.

>>77451103
I just google it.

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>>77451050
Some more

I love the F-22 but personally my favorite jet is the C-17 and Eurofighter

>>77451127

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_312_Tucano
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_314_Super_Tucano

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>>77450210
>we still develop top tier tanks
That's why Leopard was embarrased so hard in Syria Meanwhile T-90 is still the only tank that has 0 confirmed losses.

>>77451124

Tanks are useless for us due Geography.

Hence why they are all located in the South.

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>>77450958
Tanks aren't like aircraft you dumbass, they don't need to be "combat tested". By simply look at the crew position you can tell the quality of a tank.

>>77451074
The specs and design are all superior.

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>>77451426
Well I can't really argue with you, my knowledge is really limited to aircraft. But I should hope the T-14 would be superior.. the Abrams design is like 3 decades old

Croatia is buying new planes. iirc we're looking to buy either F-15s, Grippen, eurofighter or some asian plane, can't remember which country.

What's the best in your opinion?

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>>77451426

>It's the best because it looks good xD

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>>77451574
Which F-15 variant?

Gripen might be the best, Eurofighter is too expensive

>>77451124
Leopard 2 just like Chile. But Brazil is too poor for tanks. Brazilian army can't even maintain it's trucks properly much less a modern behemoth like the Leopard 2.

>>77451615
i checked, it says F-16 barak

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>>77450956
Because spent AF monies on armed Little Bird, F-35 cannot stop pinoys on speedboats cross border kidnapping.

>>77451426
>By simply look at the crew position you can tell the quality of a tank.

What did he mean by this

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>His country doesnt produce its own fighter jets

Plebs all of you

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>>77437828
Main as in largest number? Do you mean strictly a fighter or multi role? Anyways the most advanced and designed as a fighter jets that we have is the F-22. We won't sell them to those Aussie cunts either.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-22_Raptor

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>>77450972
yes hello please disband your military :^)

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>>77451574

Gripen, good stuff for cheap.

>>77451546
Abrams is one of the worst tanks in the world. It gets detroyed by atgms that are 20 years older than the tank.

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>>77451574
Please buy

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>>77451662
So it's the F-16D?

Anyways I'd rank it like this Croatia

F-16D > Gripen > F-15/Eurofighter

Croatia is a small country so they don't need a large aircraft with huge range like the F-15, and the Eurofighter is way too expensive

F-16D can perform pretty much any role and it's cheap.

>>77451767
Its just cheap because they are looking at second hand ones.

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>>77451719
What does that even mean

Do you really think any tank in the world can survive a well placed shot from an ATGM? That's what they fucking do, kill tanks.

>>77451767
yeah, F-16D block 40, whatever that means

we just want to be able to counter serbian mig-29, rest countries are in nato, theoretically we shouldn't be threatened by them

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>>77451824
The "D" is the variant, the block is the software/avionics/equipment upgrade "block"

>>77451880
The D is the twinseater isnt it?

>>77451797
Well could they afford to purchase anything brand new in decent numbers?

>>77451797
people here say grippen is good, but that sweden is unreliable since it's not in nato, and can easily refuse to service/sell/whatever in case of war or other problems

>>77451919
Well, pretty much nothing besides Gripens I guess.

The main problem would be operating costs, wich probably rules out the twin-engines. And second hand jets should be more maintanance heavy.

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>>77451917
yep

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>>77451546
The T-14 is like a generation ahead of every other tank design. It's like comparing 4th-gen aircraft to 5th-gen aircraft. No one else ever bothered to design a next-gen tank, Russia is the only that did.

>>77451583
The T-14 is actually quite ugly. The chassis is way bigger than the T-72(T-90) chassis to accommodate all the armor and the turret is funny looking and so small, it doesn't look menacing or threatening, the visual isn't harmonious.

>>77451926
That is correct. However Saab seems to do just fine with the deals with in Hungary and czech republic

>>77451956
>>77451965
>>77451919

like i said, any airplane capable of taking down mig-29 is good enough

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>>77451982
Please explain to me why it is next gen without using memes

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>>77452002
Well all those jets I listed are capable.. it really comes down to cost.

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>>77452002
Any of the mentioned could do that. Their MiG-29s are pretty bad variants desu, unless they uppgrade them

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>>77451982

I'm not convinced till it gets action.

Like the T-90 did and it's doing very well.

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>No one likes the J-20

sadness

>>77445606
>Bring some kids too, some like Dassault only give souvenir packs to kids while BAE booth gives posters regardless of age. Don't bother asking Russia export they are too stingy for free posters and its the same for chink booths
Kek

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Post cute planes

>>77452098

Isn't a F-22 copy?

>>77452005
Unmanned turret
Reduced IR signature ( like polish stealth tank )
Armored capsule for crew
152 mm gun
Fully protected by APS which can shoot down APFSDS
Superior targeting system
Superior armor
Own recon drone
etc

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>>77452201

Kawaii

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>>77437828
72 of F-35A Lightning IIs, potentially extended to 100.

In addition to a lot of everything in pic related

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>>77452201
I think Japon's F-2 is cute

>>77452258
That was a real deathtrap

>>77452204
mig 1.44 + f22

>>77451708
They're not versatile enough for us to want to buy them to begin with.

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>>77452265
I'm actually surprised you guys have so much invested into your Air Force.

>>77452209
Unmanned turret
Ill give you this
Reduced IR signature ( like polish stealth tank )
Not the first, or only one to have this
Armored capsule for crew
A tank is an armoured capsule, but I get your point
152 mm gun
No, it uses a 125mm so far.
Fully protected by APS which can shoot down APFSDS
This is infact pretty cool
Superior targeting system
Compared too? A lot of modern tanks has extremly good systems
Superior armor
This is secret, and all its competitors also has classified armour, so we will never know
Own recon drone
US Army is also implementing this on the M1

The main problem tho is that you only have like 20 of them. The bulk of your forces will still be T-72+++++

>>77452258
THICC

>>77452293
Sexiest F-16 variant desu

>>77452354
Forgot the arrows, but you get the point

>>77452300

Aren't all jets from that era?

>>77452303

And J-31 it's a literal stretched F-35.

>>77448951
>instead you'll become an american puppet like norway and finland
That must be why they join every war we enter and Finland is a member of NATO.....fucking retard.

Also, our military buys weapons from Kongsberg. So it's not a one way relationship.

>>77452404
>Chinks copying shit

what a surprise

>>77452354
>Not the first, or only one to have this
Unlike Abrams or Leo it doesn't glow like candle in thermals.
>No, it uses a 125mm so far.
152 to be installed
>The main problem tho is that you only have like 20 of them.
50

>>77452300
The problem was that pilots went from the prop-driven SK50 directly to the Tunnan, and nobody here knew how to fly a that good jet in Sweden in the late 40's/early 50's

Saab proposed that we buy a twin-seater, but the Air Force didnt want it. Thats why many died. Mechanically there was nothing wrong with it.

>Finland is a member of NATO
No they are not. You are the retard here.

>>77452476
Come on Ivan, 50 is nothing.

Does anyone have that video of german plane from warthunder firing its guns with a german song playing in the background?

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>>77452474

Incredible how they just don't give a fuck.

>>77452321
Gotta keep shit updated to fight in every little war you fucks initiate/elevate. Also, it's a big country and maintaining technological superiority over neighbouring countries that have much larger populations and militiaries is somewhat important.

>>77452476

>Unlike Abrams or Leo it doesn't glow like candle in thermals.
Many nations have equipped their Leos with signature reducin equipment tho.
>No, it uses a 125mm so far.
>152 to be installed
Yeah, and we are getting 130/140mm sometime too
>50

Out of what, like 5000?

>>77451674
In terms of crew survivability, Russian tank have always ranked low when compared to the Abrams or Leopard 2. The T-14 not only fixes all that but also puts it on the top of the rank.

>>77452614
Well in their defense why NOT copy a successful design?

It's much easier to imitate a good design than to design one yourself. Especially when you don't already have a strong established aviation engineering industry.

w-we don't have any..

>>77452470
>>77452518
Forgot to qoute

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I read we might be getting the F-35A after we've purchased a certain amount of F-45Bs.

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>>77452618
>mfw Aussies have been the only cunt to actually go with us into every single war

Truly our greatest ally, but most people don't know this

>>77450876
>>Russia decides to make a hi-tech tank design
>>it's superior to every single Western tank design
It's only considered equal to our Abrahms, has never been proven and who knows how many the Russian Federation can produce?

>>77452737

I agree.

But their entire fucking military? C'mon.

>>77452805
Not sure why you would buy the A variant, you already have the Eurofighter. And I can't think of a scenario in which the UK would be performing a first strike mission where you would need this kind of stealth.

>>77452876
Well they're trying to build the J-20

>>77452918
It's just mutterings at the moment because of cost issues, get enough F-35bs for the two carriers to operate effectively while having some for training and in maintenance, then the rest F-35a. They're retiring the Tornado fleet soon so might be something to do with it. 138 F-35b is still the official figure, they have around 10 so far.

>>77450876
Lol. When it comes to tanks you have two choices if you don't want to lose a war quickly. Either buy US or German tanks.

>>77452937

>>77452303

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>>77452164
For keks we also put the chink booth just opposite Boeing and Lockheed

>>77453049
Literally why though? You have the Eurofighter

What do you need the A version for?

You can't even bring the argument with easier maintenance, because the B and A version are quite different.

>>77448904
Sweden will be a superpower by 2030.

>>77453091
aye the cost of having a split-fleet and maintaining that might cost more than the money you save on buying the cheaper F-35a.

Why do these threads always have some butthurt German in them?

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>>77450956
This plane is too often bullied.

>>77453165
its you who's mad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMZDEuiq8nQ

>>77453165
Or some slavaboo

>>77453161

Everyone will.

>>77453161
Your Gripen's crashed more often than all Windows XP copies that ever existed on this planet

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>mfw seeing YouTube comments on the F-35

>>77453091

Not him, but Eurofighter doesn't match the deep strike requirement that the RAF wants.

However, whilst there are differences between the A/B there's still significant logistics benefit from a shared fleet (same AIS logistics system, software and training). Though I'm not a proponent of a split fleet as I'd like for the most to be gained out of the carriers.

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>>77453052
What about T-72 made in Poland?

>>77453393
Why does the RAF want deep strike capability?

>>77453453
Better to have the ability to and not need it than to need it and not have it.

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>>77453359

>>77447545
>muh climbrate and speed
Thats one of the reason they suck
Boom n zoom is all they do, and let the guided missiles do the work
At those speeds it would be near impossible to hit an enemy jet with a traditional 20mm cannon
>loud
Wrong. Have you ever been to an airport? Propellers are so quiet compared to jets. Its exactly the opposite of what you said. And when they break the speed of sound its ear-shattering

>>77453453

So that it may pursue objects within hostile airspace.

>>77453569
***objectives

hurrrrr

>>77453304
We've only had a few crashes. Per flight hour it's safer than most any other fighter.

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>>77451699
AHHHHHHHH IT'S NOT FAIR

>>77453569
So they're going to have a fleet of three very different jets?

Really the only thing in common with the F-35 variants are the software and training. Multiple sources state that maintenance resources for the variants are all quite different

If only there was an Su-34 you guys could buy

My country's new gen jet is top secret but it blows russian shit out of the water, not to mention american """"fighter"""".

>>77453713

As it stands it is known there will be two different fleets.

Again, whilst yes there are differences between the F-35 variants they still share significant commonality. Even if it was/is just the software and training that is shared, that's a huge benefit.

We have some meme jets

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Post AWACS.

>>77453091
We're getting F-35 as a Harrier and Tornado replacement

We don't need STOVL for the whole requirement and Typhoon's range while carrying ordnance limited compared to Tornado and F-35. So F-35A is seen as a cost-effective solution to Tornado's strike capability while we're getting F-35B anyway

BAE makes money regardless of what we choose

>>77453693
Just buy our Gripens.

Or even better, become a part of Sweden again, then you produce your own jets

>>77454251
Drop the suicidal immigration policy and leftist views first :^)

What are some decent flight sims that can run on a low end laptop with integrated graphics?

>>77454653
Falcon BMS 4

We only have gook trainers and those trainers have more combat experience than most full time fighter jets.

No idea.

>>77453948
>weld some radar to some business jet
>call it AWACS

I love Brazil.

>>77455630

Almost every AWACS plane were business jet, retard.

>>77455710
This

>>77455710
Pretty sure all AWACS of the military superpowers(USA, Russia, China) are airliners and not executive jets because that's just retarded, especially for a large country.

>>77456064

There's literally no difference if it's an Airliner or a Regional Jet, what counts it's the radar.

Which in our case it can cover 450km.

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Countries that have the Gripen, what do you think of it??

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>>77456340
Its great. I have worked with the aircraft (C and variants) during my time in the military. But understandably I might be a little biased.

>>77456340

>No Piranha II
>No MAR-1

WTF i hate Sweden now

>>77456332
Welding a radar on the top of an executive jet is a very African solution regardless. It's like putting a machine gun on a bike and calling it a tank. I can't even find interior pics of this piece of junk and i think i know why...

>>77456686
Those are getting integrated to. The pic is probably old

>>77457110

So 80% of world's Air-Forces uses African solutions.

Wew, Africa must be proud.

>>77452614
Do they have anything they designed themselves?

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>>77457495

Some stuff.

>>77457419

Hmmm ok.

>>77457110
That is how most people do it. That is the Swedish Erieye radar, one of the worlds best, mounted on an Embraer 145 Airliner.

The inside looks like any AEW&C aircraft.

>>77457419
Pretty sure the Brazilian version of Gripen will use A-Darter. Those missiles he mentioned are obsolete, they wanted MAR-1 integration, but they haven't mentioned anything about it for years already and when a Brazilian goes quiet about something, it means it's not happening.

>>77458209

How they are obsolete?

Seriously everytime someone says it, they only spout memes and never give actual proof.

>>77458312
Well, Piranha-1 already was obsolete a long time ago and MAR-1 has specs similar to anti-radiation missiles from the '70s and it has never been used in combat, so we don't know it's failure rate.

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>READY, HIT IT
*cheesy 80's rock plays in the distance*

>>77459562

>no evidence or links

Piranha II was developed in 2013 and MAR-1 in the 90s.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAR-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAA-1_Piranha#MAA-1B

>>77438265
I wish we had MiGs

>>77460009

Why?

>>77460009
>Wanting to crash into the sea and loose air battles

What

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>>77460009
Lol

>>77460217
That's a Sukhoi though

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>>77460854
It's all slav shit

>>77460880
The Sukhoi Su-27 infact has a decent safety record in Russian hands. The MiG-29 however has a terrible one in everyones hands...

>>77452737
>ell in their defense why NOT copy a successful design
But they don't successfully copy the design. They make a shittier version.

>>77452801

>That must be why they join every war we enter and Finland is a member of NATO.....fucking retard.

Your English needs more practice, I clearly implied via sarcasm they aren't just like neither joined the Iraq invasion.

>>77461012
Well they have to keep trying

How else will they improve?

>>77441647
It's assailt-bomber

>>77453052
Syria showed how shitty M1 and Abrams are and how awesome T-90 is

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>>77461303
>Poorly trained Iraqi """"soldiers"""" using old Abram variants
>They drive them onto elevated exposed terrains, open areas
>Lol the Abram sucks xd

>>77460105
just like how they look

>>77461518
MiGs are fucking shit.
I'm not the biggest fan of the Eurofighter but it's comparible in flight performance to the MiG, while also having non-shit avionics and engines that are good for more than a week.

I'm sorry to say Russian planes are trash.

>>77461173
Considering all of the U.S. technology they've stolen and Russian Russian they've supposedly reverse engineered, I'm starting to think they are completely incompetent. Having dealt with East Asian engineers I'm not entirely suprised. Innovation is not a strong suit but wasting time on one small detail while letting the big picture fall apart is what they excell at.

>>77461316
Damn the F-22 looks like some kind of alien craft next to those harmless looking things.

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>>77461303
>how shitty M1 and Abrams
>He thinks we gave them our versions
>He thinks we didn't have their trainers say they were incompetent
>He thinks the Iraqi forces weren't corrupt, negligent and cowards
Top fucking kek.

>>77462853
It would do considering it's an ASF and they're trainers

>>77461353
>>77462872
>This damage control

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>>77450990
>russian sanctions means no more spare parts
>our most modern air fleet can barely fly

>>77462872
>He thinks we gave them our versions
>it's n-not M1A2 we have it's M1A1 it has 20 hp less and 20 mm less in front
>m-muh monkey model
>m-muh arabs are incompetent

>>77461353
Saudi lost handful of M1A2

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>>77437828
I love American planes desu.
They are just fucking cool, even the ones that end up not working out are cool.

Sure people will talk shit, but I appreciate the willingness to experiment and ingenuity.
I'd much rather waste money on it than stinky brown "people" (parasites)

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>Russians derailing a jet thread with tank bullshit because their Jets suck.
classic Ivans.

>>77465147
>>77464727
>Implying that doesnt mean that the T72 (T-90) is totally crap in all ways, as arabs and africans has lost them in thousands since forever

>>77465740
>Russians derailing a jet thread with tank bullshit because their Jets suck.
Buttblasted german did it you mongel.
>>77466256
your mother's husband lost to african