Most important countries in all of history power ranking

>>77419568
Terrible post

>>77419908
> Finland

Above Rome, Greece and Persia

>>77419568
>Mongol Empire
What did they do?
>Arabia
What did they do besides the creation of a dangerous ideology?
>Portugal
What did they do? It's not enough.
>Germany/HRE
What did they do?
>Netherlands
Not enough
>Poland, Sweden
No
>Carthage, Samarkand, Mali
No

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>>77420231
>he took the bait

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>>77420231
The Mongol Empire was the largest contiguous land empire in history, covering over 33 million km2 at its peak, with an estimated population of over 100 million people.

>>77420394
In what did they contribute to the world?

The only thing those savages did was to massacre people.

>>77420431
>The only thing those savages did was to massacre people.
Well that's pretty important. The Spaniards basically did the same thing.

I don't agree with the Byzantine empire being so low too.

>>77420231
>>Mongol Empire
>What did they do?
They ended the Islamic Golden Age and permanently changed everything in the Old World outside of Europe and Japan.
>>Arabia
>What did they do besides the creation of a dangerous ideology?
Science and math.
>>Portugal
>What did they do? It's not enough.
Invented modern trade.
>>Germany/HRE
>What did they do?
Germany basically created the modern world by accident through WWII.

>>77420643
>They ended the Islamic Golden Age and permanently changed everything in the Old World outside of Europe and Japan.
Not only that but the leadership of the Islamic world fell from Arabs/Persians to Turk's.

>Science and math.
Not only that. The first Muslim empire was the first empire in history to connect Europe, the Middle East, India and Central Asia.

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>>77419568

>>tfw the only Western European country that's irrelevant to history is Ireland
this mus be b8, how do you not know of Luxembourg, Andorra, Monaco and Lichtenstein

Why is France up there? They have never won a war unless led by a foreigner or unless having their asses saved by an ally

>>77419568
>Poland and Sweden, completely irrelevant to the history of the world, same tier as India

>>77420998
Those barely even count as countries.

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That feel when only Greeks and Italians have more than 1 entrances in the list
>muh Mediterranean master race

>>77422178
USA and Britain are similar.

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>british and french dominance is long gone

>>77422178
The original Frankish tribes came from the Netherlands. And when their empire fell apart it laid the foundation for France and Germany.

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>>77424332

>>77420998
And Iceland

>>77419568
Putting us below Spain, Portugal or Russia is ridiculous.
Considering our capitalist and liberal culture pretty much dominates the world. We invented stock markets and discovered bacteria. And even today our culture is being copied.
As the first modern republic we inspired the French and American republic.
The British their empire was a copy of ours and only truly took off after the glorious revolution.
We brought western knowledge to Japan and inspired Russia's Peter the Great which modernized Russia.

>>77424772
And great thinkers from across Europe published their works here as one of the earliest free countries.

>>77419568
>Persia

Iranian diaspora detected

>>77419568
Greece has nothing to do with ancient greece
Rome is not a country
Egypt has nothing to do with ancient egypt
Mesopotamia is not a country

>>77419568
>Persia
>Greece
>France
>Spain
>China
>Egypt
>Mesopatamia

Ahead of the U.S.

>mongolia
>Arabia
>portugal
>Germany
>Italy
>Russia

>on par with the U.S.

The U.K., U.S., and Rome are the most important countries in human history. No other countries even compare.

>>77424772
WE

>>77425146
France and even Spain were way more relevant than Rome.

>>77425146
Yeah, who needs roads, sanitation and aquaducts and shit when you have computers.

>>77419568
>Greece
They weren't really one nation. It was for most of it's history a bunch of city states.

>>77425190
Our republic rejected the divine right of kings before the Americans.
The American dream is Dutch.
American federal state model is Dutch.
American armed militias are Dutch.
The majority of the arms for the American revolution came from the Netherlands.

Pay some respects.

>>77420231
We invented colonialism, without us we'd be speaking ching chong dog for dinner

>>77425268
WUZ

the person accredited with sparking the American Revolution was John Locke.

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Gustav Vasa II invented modern warfare so i'd say Sweden is pretty important atleast when it comes to being efficient at killing.

>>77425374
>modern warfare
>a guy that lived in the 16-17th centuries
Bait?

If anyone invented modern warfare it was the Americans in the Mexican-American War.
We were the first people to practice mounted combat (automobile), by putting machine guns onto trucks.

>>77425321
Locke lived here because he'd be locked away elsewhere and learned of our way of life here. Just like Spinoza.

>Locke fled to the Netherlands in 1683, under strong suspicion of involvement in the Rye House Plot, although there is little evidence to suggest that he was directly involved in the scheme. The philosopher and novelist Rebecca Newberger Goldstein argues that during his five years in Holland, Locke chose his friends "from among the same freethinking members of dissenting Protestant groups as Spinoza's small group of loyal confidants. [Baruch Spinoza had died in 1677.] Locke almost certainly met men in Amsterdam who spoke of the ideas of that renegade Jew who... insisted on identifying himself through his religion of reason alone." While she says that "Locke's strong empiricist tendencies" would have "disinclined him to read a grandly metaphysical work such as Spinoza's Ethics, in other ways he was deeply receptive to Spinoza's ideas, most particularly to the rationalist's well thought out argument for political and religious tolerance and the necessity of the separation of church and state."[12]

>In the Netherlands, Locke had time to return to his writing, spending a great deal of time re-working the Essay and composing the Letter on Toleration. Locke did not return home until after the Glorious Revolution. Locke accompanied William of Orange's wife back to England in 1688. The bulk of Locke's publishing took place upon his return from exile – his aforementioned Essay Concerning Human Understanding, the Two Treatises of Civil Government and A Letter Concerning Toleration all appearing in quick succession.

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>>77425453
He invented combined arms warfare which is agree upon to be one of the cornerstones of modern warfare, thus the title.

His finnish hakkapeliittas (light cavalry) for example charged directly to enemy lines with pistols and after firing the 2 pistols drawed their swords and kept charging. At the time this kind of tactic was unheard of and germans wrote on many accounts that these finnish cavalry were unholy demons that came down on earth to punish them.

>>77425619
That's the equivalent of saying cavemen are responsible for jeeps, because they both use wheels.

>>77420998
Liechtenstein was part of the HRE though

>>77419568
>ancient Greece
>a country

>>77425272
Wouldn't that be Ancient Greeks though?

>>77425268
>forgetting New York

>>77425698
At the time most of the tactics he used were unheard of and very revolutionary woud you undermine Blitzkrieg just because someone else has done it in modern times a thousand times?

But so i don't have to explain this in a 3 per mille drunk i'll just copy paste the wikipedia page.

In an era characterized by almost endless warfare, Gustavus Adolphus led his armies as king from 1611 (at age 16) until his death. Sweden rose from the status of a mere regional power to one of the great powers of Europe and a model of early modern era government. Within only a few years of his accession, Sweden had become the largest nation in Europe after Russia, Spain and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Some have called him the "father of modern warfare",[6] or the first great modern general. Under his tutelage, Sweden and the Protestant cause developed a number of excellent commanders, such as Lennart Torstensson, who would go on to defeat Sweden's enemies and expand the boundaries and the power of the empire long after Gustavus Adolphus' death in battle.

He was known by the epithets "The Golden King" and "The Lion of the North" by neighboring sovereigns. He made Sweden one of the great powers of Europe in part by reforming the administrative structure. For example, he began Parish registration of the population, so that the central government could more efficiently tax and conscript the people. Historian Christer Jorgensen argues that his achievement in the field of economic reform, trade, modernization, and the creation of the modern bureaucratic autocracy was as great as his exploits on the battlefields. His domestic reforms, which transformed a backward, almost medieval economy and society, were in fact not only the foundations for his victories in Germany, but also absolutely crucial for the creation and survival of the Swedish Empire.[7]

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>>77425619
This is like one of those American history documentaries where every new invention and idea COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY CHANGED THE COURSE OF HISTORY *DRAMATIC ROCK RIFF*.

>>77425560
If the Netherlands hadn't invaded the UK during the glorious revolution then Locke would never even have been able to go back to the UK.

>>77425962
to be fair a lot of American inventions did that

>electricity
>lightbulbs
>airplanes
>atomic weapons
>nuclear weapons

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>>77425962
ikr?

>>77419568
I dare you to name on one thing Persia contributed to humanity

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>>77425453
>putting machine guns onto trucks

We had infantry in APCs in the 15th century

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>>77426594
>machine guns in the 15th century

How exactly did Czechia not take over the world then?

>>77425560
>>77425268
Wtf I love the Dutch now

>>77419568
>>>/his/

>>77426634
Not enough bullets. We still held against 5 crusades.