>Southern "Europe"

>>77402717
You can't just divide the European subcontinent because half of its DNA triggers you.

>>77402774
it's 4chan, of course he can
where do you think you are

>>77402717

The Southern European is clearly Filipino or something

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>Southern Europeans built civilization
>Northern """""Europeans""""" lived in mud huts

>>77402878
Now the tables turned.

>>77402839
>proto-Chile

>>77402878
it's only because you were closer to the fertile crescent, when that technology and education reached northern europe they outpaced the southerners

>>77402878
wrong

>>77402924
also wrong

France is neither north or south and it's the only country worth anything on this shithole continent
Literally been carrying the team for 2000 years and not even a thank you

Northerners don't matter, southerners don't matter, only the French

>>77403038
fuck off

>>77402717
I'm pretty sure the oldest europeans are iberians closer to basque.
Northerm europeans descend from the cro magnon which is not older than the hunter gatheres

>>77403001
completely Wrong
The tribes in Germania and Britannia didnt adopt or learn the roman technologies
If anything they just stole the shiny things roman had
Just look at how aqueducts were completely abandoned once the roman empire fell

>>77403045
it's ok you guys are honorary frenchmen

>>77403038
https://www.aftenposten.no/osloby/sulten/Dette-er-verdens-beste-ost-Den-lages-pa-Tingvoll-609242b.html

>>77403221
it's because we can't elect a french cheese to be the best cheese every year, we have literally thousands of cheeses, we are not even taking part in the competition at this point it'd be unfair for the others t b h

also the judges were probably french

>>77403001
snowniggers everyone

>>77402878
Sumer*
Stop wewuzzing civilization you pastanigger

>>77403432
I shit on French cheese

>>77403497
what makes you think i care about your opinion ?

>>77402717
>southern european literally created Europe

It's hilarious how badly northern europeans want to outcast southern europeans based on phenotype expression but it would mean having to accept the fact that an "inferior" race literally built the foundations of everything they stand upon.

>south europe competed with each other and the near east so much they exhausted themselves and fell apart
>cumskins come in and steal everything from them

Fun fact: london during the plague had to learn from italy about quarantines and pesthouses

>>77403608
yeah because italy had plagues every year the dirty cunts

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>>77403608
>it's another "anti-white shitskin is trying to appropriate southern europe" episode
i hate you a whole more than i hate nordics actually

>>77403690
France is non-white and therefore good
G*rmany, angl*s and n*rdics are the worst

>>77402717
what did he mean by this

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>>77402717
>a leaf post

OK here some news:
>Varg (Pagan Norwegian) mocks Southern Europeans
>Northern Europeans (Norwegians) go to South Europe (Kos island) for holidays
>Earth shaker Poseidon (a God of Pagan Greeks) caused earthquake (6.4) and flood today
>Mosque and christian churches damaged. 2 Norwegians dead
>Varg on anxiolytic drugs


BTW daily reminder about South Europe:
"Europe was the birthplace of mankind, not Africa, scientists find"
>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/22/europe-birthplace-mankind-not-africa-scientists-find/

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>Le all Southern Euros look the same

Here we go again.

I know you Northern Euros aren't all blonde blue eyed half mongols. Do you see me making threads about this everyday saying you are?

>>77402717
Is that why the southies help refugees into Europe by saving the boats? Because they feel its like letting your kin in?

pagans are redditors

>>77403967
So why do swedes go to their borders to help refugees come in?
Just like in Denmark.

>>77403001
Meds are the same race as the Fertile crecent. The same people.

>>77404058
That explains why the south and the middle east both are going to shit

>>77404088
Last I checked France has nukes and Sweden doesn't. When shit get's real Southern Europe will rise again. I can't say the same for Sweden.

>south europe is going to shit
>never been here
I seriously ask why I share this board with dumb people

>>77402856
>>77403964

Why do people have no idea how we look like.

MENA like to LARP as us.
Mestizos from South America as well.

>>77404201
All Europeans (except nordics) are black
t. Varg

>>77404241
>implying that I care about one opinion from a guy that would hide behind a tree when confronted with one normal person

>>77404162
>never been here
Greece is by far the biggest shithole I've ever been to. Judging by how much other southies jerk off that Turkish colony, I cant imagine theyre any better

>>77404301
Greece is absolutely kill.

While the others of the crisis are slowly back on track (Spain, Portugal, Ireland, I don't know about Italy) Greece is getting bombarded to hell by migrants, and the country is ready to explode at a moment's notice.

It's not fair for them, their situation is especial.

>>77404301
Portugal and the Balkans+Greece are cool places to visit, terrible places to live in.

Spain and Italy are different and have regions with Swedish-tier living styles minus your unnecessary autism although particularly Southern-Italy isn't that great to live in either

>>77404400
Southern Italy is very nice, just corrupt

>>77404400
>Portugal and the Balkans+Greece are cool places to visit, terrible places to live in.

Onde é que tu vives ?

>>77404437
That's not a good place to live in

>>77404443
Porto

>>77404121
france is not southern europe

>>77403643
good post

>>77404503
plagues were typical wherever large settlements with a lot of trade existed

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>>77404492

>>77404490
>Porto
>Terrível de viver


Que meme é este?

>>77404563
(Italy)

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>>77404565

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>>77404565
>More than half of France
>Romenia
>Belgium
>Switzerland

>>77404565
france is not southern europe and neither are half of the cunts on that meme map

>>77404572
Salários terríveis, falta de ofertas de emprego, se fores despedido aos 40 estás fodido, ética de trabalho questionável (apesar de bastante boa pelos padrões portugueses), se não morasse em casa dos pais tinha que ir para Valongo ou para Gaia para sobreviver, etc.

>>77404782
É assim tão mau aí em baixo ? Eu sou de Viana e recebo 900 Europas limpas a trabalhar para um empresa de transportes. Pago 200 paus de aluguer de um T4 e tá óptimo.

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>>77402878
>>77403001
>>77403608
>>77404058
Are you a part of the J2 master race?

>>77404937
A 200€ só nos limites da AMPorto. Quais são as tuas habilitações? Por norma no país vizinho recebes quase o dobro e é literalmente tudo pelo menos um bocadinho melhor.

>>77405019
Relações Internacionais.

Mas atirei-me para esta empresa e agora trato de "coisas" lá. Não é muito pesado mas a responsabilidade é enorme, literalmente posso foder um mês se me enganar em pequenas coisas.


> Por norma no país vizinho recebes quase o dobro e é literalmente tudo pelo menos um bocadinho melhor.


Depende. Norte de Portugal embora não muito rico é porreiro, dos melhores que já tive. Daí nunca pensar sequer sair.


Portugal tem muitas merdas más e a qualidade de vida é agressiva mas é se viveres á volta do Porto e Lisboa. As pancas que o pessoal tem pelas grandes cidades só os fode (sem offensa).

Por exemplo podes ir para guimarães, alugar um T2 novinho por 150 paus e arranjar um trabalho tipo eu.

>>77405170
>Habilitação em Relações Internacionais e está a receber 900€ numa empresa de transportes
Também deixa-me que te diga que a fasquia é baixa.

Claro que bom ou mau é sempre relativo, mas a não ser que tenhas algum gosto em particular pelo país os problemas económicos, burocráticos e de ética geral aqui não compensam o resto. Para além do problema de Lisboa ser um eucalipto em forma de cidade, se bem que isto não seria muito melhor de qualquer das maneiras.

Quanto a Viana e Guimarães, que conheço bem (esta zona do Minho toda aliás), é porreiro mas não consigo viver em sítios tão pequenos. Claro que o Porto é uma aldeia em ponto grande, mas com mais pessoas posso lidar, menos é que é difícil.

>>77404747
ah yes, of course some random paki knows.

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>>77402717

>>77405315
dumb YANK go ask in /fr/ then

Are we S.Europe or N.Europe?

>>77405503
you are la france
only occitans are mediterranean imo

>>77405340
lmao

iberians are not white

>>77405503
Definitely Western Europe

>>77402717
Europe and Europeans are a social construct

>>77405503
Both.

>>77403921
>Southerns are the most primitive race
Really makes you think...

>>77402717
Im greek

>>77402717
>A
>FUCKING
>LEAF

>>77403038
élite post

>>77402717
more like northern """Europe"""

next time came up with a name by yourselves, and do not steal names from our greek myths

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>>77404301
>Greece is by far the biggest shithole I've ever been to. Judging by how much other southies jerk off that Turkish colony, I cant imagine theyre any better
You sure that your Balkan shithole is not worse, Kosovar anon ?

>>77410243
Hungarians are subhuman

>>77402717
>he wants to be a primitive forest barbarian rather than a civilization-building human

keep in mind
its all diaspora and shitskin immigrants

>>77402717
What a shitty simplified map, the farmers who invaded Europe were from Anatolia and were distinct from those who were in Mesopotamia or Arabia

>>77402924
for a shor hiatus considering how fast they are being replaced by meds and other races

>>77402717
>anatolian farmers were the same as near easterners
lmao
but the best part is that they unironically say south Euros have the Same about of Siberian affinity as north Euros, pure comedy

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>>77404058
False, Meds are Neolithic Anatolian with some paleolithic European blood,

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>>77402717
Northern Eurasian masterrace reporting in.
Get on your knees and bow to your Master you wh*te filth!

Also can someone good with genetics tell me where the natufian admixture in South Europeans come from?

>>77410585
so we WUZNT sumerians and SITTU

>>77410708
phoenicians?

>>77410708
probably cardial pottery groups, the same who brought E1b1b(main lineage of Natufians)

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>>77410718
No, our ancestors built catal hoyuk though, which is older than Sumerian cities

>>77403038
this.

>>77410742
Wasn't cardial pottery just Neolithic Anatolians?

>>77410768
no, cardial pottery originates in the levant, neolithic Europeans seem to mostly descend from a group of northwest Anatolians
neolithic levantines were kinda 50/50 anatolian-like natufian-like

although I recall from Lazaridis paper that the best models he found were not really great fits

>>77410753
noice, are these guys the ones with horns inside their houses?

>>77402717
Whats happening in russia? doubt it was uninhabited

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>>77410816
Yes

>>77410814
But Cardium pottery people were the first Neolithic people to settle Italy, so there were subsequent waves from Anatolia during the Neolithic?

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>>77403001
> the fertile crescent

>middle easterns built civilizations

>>77404386
>While the others of the crisis are slowly back on track
ahahahahahahahahahhhahhhahahahahahhhh

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>>77410870
10,000 years keeping the same tradition

>>77404386
>slowly back on track

Spain increased the public debt in 500,000 million euros in seven years, I doubt we are going anywhere but straight to the void

>>77410870
>Cardium pottery people were the first Neolithic people to settle Italy
I don't think it's so simple, most likely there were already neolithic Anatolians from the European branch(the one who just went from Anatolia into Europe)
those Cardium pottery folks perhaps mixed with them in various amounts and thus added that small amount of natufian-like input present pretty much everywhere in south Europe and even France to a smaller extent

or maybe, they had already mixed with those anatolian farmers in the balkans and then moved to Italy

consider though that the samples from Remedello culture in north Italy, despite being bronze age already, don't show traces of Natufian input as far as I've seen

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So all Europeans are like half middle eastern? and when they say Northeastern eurasians, are they speaking of the Iranic invaders?

>>77410875
That's common knowledge mate. Civilisations come and go. Compare Germany and Italy at the height of Rome then look at Germany and Italy now.

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>Europeans are literally the bastards of Middle easterners and Iranic bulls.

>>77411029
it's a picture from an old pop-sci article when the best fitting model for European included only those three populations, it's pretty old
northeast Eurasians in this case refers to people from the M'alta Buret culture of Sibera, far to the east

>pagan Middle East is the height of the known civilization at its time
>muslim Middle East is an inbred, backward clusterfuck
Really fires your neurons, doesn't it?

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>>77410987
I had read that the Natufian admixture comes from the Bronze age but I don't know how true that is, that would be weird because I don't know of any migration from the Levant to South Europe during that time, maybe Cypriots?

Considering Sicily and Sardinia traded with Cyprus, but still it would make much more sense if it dated back only to the early iron age considering Phoenicians actually founded colonies in those places while Cypriots did not.

>>77411098
bronze age could actually be another explanation, after all it is becoming pretty clear that there was a movement from iran westward who brought Y-DNA J2 and west asian affinity especially in south-east Europe, perhaps they carried some natufian with them on their way

as for Sardinia, those samples used are usually the HGDP ones, whose place of origin I'm not sure of
a recent paper on Sardinian genetics based on a much higher and controlled number of samples highlighted high genetic differentiation on the island, especially the interior from the coastal area, so It's hard to say what group might have brought this affinity without delving more into details(if those from the interior don't show natufian affinity, then it likely came from a more recent group, for instance)

>>77411029
>>77411057
False.

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>>77411084
>pagan

Middle east was mostly controlled by the monothiestic Zoroastrian Persians before islam, and even after islam was a region where several empires that conquered large parts of europe were founded.

The middle easts downfall can be attributed somewhat to the islamic arab invasions, but theyre mostly due to the mongols and westerners screwing with the region in modern times.

>>77410987
that's true and if you remember the recent Neolithic samples from the Peloponnese sorta bridged the gap between Anatolia and the Levant and were different from the ones in northern Greece

didn't a paper (one by Lazaridis and some others) model Anatolians potentially as LevantN + IranN + some WHG (backflow from the Balkans or West Anatolian HG) in the first place?

we still need more samples to get a clear picture imo. we don't even have Neolithic samples from most of Italy

>>77411203
Really interesting, do you know where to find that paper?

>>77411279
Bronze Age Middle East wasn't controlled by Persians.

>>77411285
http://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/12/07/092148
>>77411282
yes Lazaridis did try to model Anatolians as that combination but if you look at the results in more detail the standard errors are rather high IIRC, so there is indeed more to the picture, especially since there doesn't seem to have been much sharing in terms of uniparental lineages

>>77411374
there is some J2 and E in Neolithic samples from west Anatolia, Iberia and Hungary as a minority lineage with G being the Anatolian one par excellence as we know

it's possible that these are associated with the minor CHG/IranN-like admixture some Anatolian samples seem to show compared to others

but either way it seems to have made its way to Central Europe and Iberia before the Bronze Age to some extent

>autistic white start a thread insulting southern euros
>instead they have a civilized discussion (notice how english had to borrow both of this words from latin)

>>77411491
>haploshit turbo-assburgers
>calls others autistic

fuck wh*te """"people""""

>>77411029

>Iranic
>invaders

Cringe

>>77403967
That's an order from the EU.

>>77404492
We are, mutumbe mohamed.

T. Frog

europeans started out swarthy and the blond/blue eyed gene started only 8000 years ago. stay woke, brianlets.

>>77415198

Not true. Russia and Finland had browner eyed but lighter skinned natives.

>>77403038
Très bon post

>>77415285
got source for that?

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>>77417769

It might be a little hard to understand if you're not at all familiar with the subject.


http://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2017/07/17/164400.full.pdf

>>77417919
were indo europeans bright-skinned?