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Daily Japanese Thread - DJT # 1880

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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://djtguide.neocities.org/

Discord:
https://discord.gg/neA547g

Previous thread:
>>77273935
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Another day of hard studying! Lets do it, boys!
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>Anki marks card as "leech"
>what the fuck is a leech
>apparently if you fail a card enough times Anki just says "fuck it I've had enough trying to teach you this shit" and just pulls it from the deck
>mfw the card in question is 嫌い
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Y'all fucken weebs and I hate every last one of you.
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>>77310385
Just study like normal people do. Read books and write your own flash cards by hand.
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>>77310385
Leech cards are there so you don't get frustrated with a card you clearly aren't learning. It's there to help you, anon.
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>>77310844
This whole language is leeching away at my life
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When the fuck does reading stop being a fucking chore? How long does it take until it stops sucking, huh?
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>>77311298
It's a long and gradual process. Read one decent length VN and you should find the easier parts stop being a chore. Read 10 and only stuff like newspapers or heavily literary writing should be a chore.
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Is Morph Man worth it or am I better off sticking with the default algorithms?
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>>77310385
>>77310844
>>77310928
You need to change your deck settings so that "leech action" is set to "Tag Only." This will make it so that you are notified of when you're struggling too much with a card. When you see a card get marked as a leech, write it (with its meaning) on a piece of paper and carry it with you for a couple of days, and just keep looking at it every hour or two. It'll go a long way towards helping you remember them.
I've accumulated a lot of leeches, but it's not like you can afford to just decide not to learn them. You're absolutely going to need them, especially those from Core.
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How big is the gap between N3-N2?
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What particle should I use to mark the thing I'm sorry about when saying ごめん? Is it を? Like, 言った事をごめんね or something like that?
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>>77312974
てごめん
As in 変なこと言っちゃってごめん.
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>Trying to improve my listening comprehension
>Start watching an anime episode without subs
>I don't know what they are saying 30% of the time
>10 episodes later
>I don't know what they are saying 30% of the time

Am I actually getting better or should I just grind vocab?
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>forgot to close/sync Anki before I went to bed
>power went out
>I download the scheduling info from Ankiweb because I'm a retard
>Yesterday doesn't exist any more
O-okay. I guess this is how I skip my first day.
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>>77307561
みゅ~こん! 第1巻
https://mega.nz/#F!8ag0iDZI!U75EFEcvTer7zml6z0w7lQ
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>>77314218
きらきらスタディー~絶対合格宣言~ 第1~2巻
https://mega.nz/#F!MGw0GSzD!wcbxqAYOvDHSprwwOOUsaw
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>>77314088
If you're ever stupid enough to let this happen to you, you can restore your Anki backups from Anki2/[Profile]/backups
Try them one by one from the most recent until you find one that works.
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Reminder that learning Japanese won't bring the golden age of vidya and animu back.
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So I managed to blast myself mostly through intermediate hell in a year by tons of anki and watching drama/listening to podcasts. So I can pretty much read novels with 1-2 lookups a page and can understand a decent chunk of what I here. But my reading speed is still ass, my language knowledge is ass, and my listening comprehension still needs to get a lot better before I can just watch unsubbed stuff with no problem. It's like a weird ass intermediate hell where since I did so much anki the problem is not really vocab so much as just inexperience, which I obviously can't rush. Learning languages is suffering.
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>>77315818
CoR→!L-R
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>>77315818
>reading speed

This may help, if you aren't already aware of it (there's a scan of it out there)

https://www.amazon.com/Rapid-Reading-Japanese-Sokudoku-Nihongo/dp/4789009157
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>>77316022
>L-R
Fuck that shit why the fuck would you halve your learning efficiency by reading english half the time when you can already understand Japanese. Sounds like a technique that may have been more effective back before popup dictionaries and such, like a primitive method of reducing paper dictionary lookups.

>>77316035
I'm not really aiming for speed reading, just normal reading speed. I don't think you can really get around it. Like, there's tons of fancy words like 加速器 where I can understand it but I'm not used to it enough to just read through it quickly, I have to think about it for a second and go through the logic of "make faster + tool + context = oh this is probably a particle accelerator"
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What's this formation?
IMAKUNI? KOBAYASHI?? RAYMOND???
Such a strange combination!
Who are we?
A supen unit sensation “SUZUKISAN”!
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>>77316197
>Fuck that shit why the fuck would you halve your learning efficiency by reading english half the time when you can already understand Japanese.
Read Japanese while listening to Japanese, since you can already read Japanese fine. It will train you to move your eyes faster while also picking up listening recognition. Your reading speed is slow due to reading out the words in your head instead of parsing chunks of text, so by listening to the text while reading it, it will make the mental reading less taxing and thus allow you to focus on moving your eyes faster to keep up.
Like crutches: you already know how to walk but need a bit of support easing the process.
The reading part of L-R doesn't need to be in English if you can already read Japanese. 一石二鳥。
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>>77316504
True, although I currently mostly watch dramas with nip subtitles so it's basically what I've been doing. It might be worth trying with audiobooks though so I can up the difficulty but still have audio.
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>>77316571
Where do you get your nip subs? I've been using an Asian media torrent site, plus d-addicts forum a couple of times. Any treasure trove I'm missing?
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>>77316720
>Any treasure trove I'm missing?
Not that I know of. I haven't watched that much. A bit of anime with kitsunekko though too I guess.
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>>77316896
Holy fuck dude I wasn't aware some glorious gentleman made jap subs of Kamen Rider, lol. Thanks.
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tae kim is a fucking autistic virgin
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>>77319883
What makes you say that?
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>>77315818
You'll get there. How long have you been studying?
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What does 天地開 mean in this sentence? It's like "Who created heaven and earth"?
ああわかるのかい天地開というんだ
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>>77315326
Good.

I care for neither.
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>>77312357
If I remember correctly, it's said that it's the biggest jump in difficulty between levels.
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>>77322818
Hmm. I've gone from N5 to pretty comfortably N3 (if the sample test I took on the JLPT site is anything to go by) since December, I was wondering if it would be worth trying for N2 by December.
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I'm a little uncertain about this one. Especially the words ふごおっ and いかつい

The context is a girl in the first panel is giving an example of her favorite manga. The boy in the second panel overhears the conversation and criticizes her.

>ふごおっ
Is this 効果音? 符合?

>女って本当 いかついよな
Women are harsh? Women have crude taste?

>センスが悪すぎて、そこが一番おもしろいわ
The funniest thing about it is just how bad it is. (Based on a later comment, I think he means the manga is センスが悪い, but he could mean the girl has bad taste in manga)
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>>77326078
Pic
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Can I get a native to confirm that そうなんだ is そうなのだ and not そうなるのだ? If you can give a very literal translation that would help as well. パンツ屋 keeps trying to tell me it's なる.
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>>77326153
I'm not a native and so there's a chance I'm mistaken, but why would そうなのだ make any sense? It's not like she explained why it's called Duralumin and then he's agreeing with her explanation.

He's wondering what it was that happened that she decided to call it that. Google なんでそうなるんだ for instance.
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>>77326549

The better question would be why have another なる at the end when you already have なって

If it were なる this would effectively mean "Where and how did this happen, and happen like this?" Maybe that's right, but I'm not sure.

>Why would そうなのだ make any sense?

どこで (copula + and)
なる て-form (meaning verb 1 is the reason for or the cause of verb 2)
そう = like that
なんだ = なのだ explanatory no

Very literal translation "Where and how did (this) become (in order to) be like this?"

Less literal "Where and how did this come about?"

I'm not saying that's right either, I'm waiting for a native to clarify
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>>77327222

My bad about verb 1/verb 2, I just meant predicates in general. Here's DoJG's definition

(C) A1 is the reason for or the cause of A2, as in Key Sentence (3), Examples (b), (d), (e) and (g). (This usage of the て form is very common.)
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>>77307561
how do you type "we got nuked twice by amerifatsos" in jewpanese?
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>>77327222
>If it were なる this would effectively mean "Where and how did this happen, and happen like this?"

The two なる have different subjects. Literally it's like: how did the situation become that the name has become like that?

If you google "どうなってそうなる" you'll see it's not an uncommon phrase.
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>>77327899

Ah, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks.
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Does anyone have a scan or PDF on the paid nihonshock cheat sheets?
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>>77327222
As you read and listen more you start to see in what situations phrases are used rather than translating each word.

そうなんだ meaning そうなのだ is often used in conversation as a comment like そうですね after someone gives an explanation.
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>>77328064
>>77327468
t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>77328232
t. preto de merda
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>>77328363
t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>77328190
This is the only one I've got, didn't even know there were more.
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>>77328383
t. preto de merda
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>>77328190
It was a 2 min search dood

http://www.
mediafire .com/file/dckt6ix32l93f35/fora.pdf
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>>77312357
>>77322818
I think the N2-N3 gap was huge when there were only N1-N4 levels. They made one between N2 and (old) N3, called it N3 and now the (old) N3 is N4, making (old) N4 to be called N5.
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>>77328523
Thank you!!
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Man, I'm glad I got a phone. Now, instead of just playing games during my 50~ hour long commute, I can do something useful and practice vocab or kanji.
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>>77330343
>hour
minutes
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>>77330343
>>77330364
>tfw have to drive 3 hours every day
I wish I could do something useful with that time.
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>>77330835
You could listen to podcasts
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>>77330835
Man, fuck driving. I'm very fine just taking the bus and letting others drive me to places.
I can see why the Japanese like to take trains and subways.
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>>77330865
Unfortunately, I can't rely on public transport here.
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Best nip podcasts?
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>>77330993
kno feelio

Second to safety, omnipresent public transportation is the thing I like the most about Nipland.
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代え 変え 換え 替え
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>>77331624
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換わり 変わり 代わり 替わり
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>>77331646
Oooh
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>>77331751
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>それはスマホで撮影したらしき画像だった。
is らしき just らしい here? Like "Picture looks to be photographed"?
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>>77322042
Me too, I have less intrest in weeb stuff now than I once did at 18
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僕 スピニング ゲイ です
is this the correct grammar?
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>>77332902
I used to watch a bunch of anime when I was 16-18. Then I got over it. I don't have time to watch anime junk today, and no interest, really. I barely rewatch the old ones I watched, but I don't weeb out about them anymore.

Games though, I'm not hardcore weeb like being a Vita owner and buying Underage パンツ Quest XVI or whatever. There are just some VNs I enjoy and that's all.
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>>77332698
らしい=らしい

ですよ
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How do i get a cutie japanese gf to teach me japanese and where would i find one?
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>>77333341
Seems like a lot of effort for some VNs.
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俺を殺して
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>>77334732
1. Learn Spanish
2. Realize that the spanish "ya" is roughly equivalent to も
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>>77307561
source of those little girls?
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>>77335179
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=112617
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にゃん! にゃん! にゃん!
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>>77336123
you spelled けろけろ wrong
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>>77334732
These are all pretty similar, I hate さえ because of the two rather distinct meanings.

Or maybe I'm biased because, as >>77334894 mentioned, there is "ya" (in Portuguese, já).
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How do you add words to rikaichan?
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>>77334732
Fucking monoglots and their "problems". If you're struggling with something as easy as もう, then maybe learning foreign languages isn't for you.
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It is not mine tho

"I have just passed JLPT N2 6 months ago. 2 months before that I had taken EJU (another official Japanese Test) and got 150 points, which means I was between N4 and N3 at that time.
Below is how I managed to pass the JLPT test(2 points over pass mark). Note that I was/am living in Tokyo and was taking Japanese classes 15 hours/week. I started learning intensively 3.5 months before the test (1.5 month before that EJU).
1. The first 2 weeks, I spent 2 hours/day learning N2-specific grammars.
2. From the 3rd week, I spent 3 hours in the morning to:
- Read my N2 textbook, do my homeworks, prepare for an upcoming lesson (about 1 hour)
- Practice Kanji, by writing. IMO write them out is by far the best pratice for learning Kanji. I kept going at 10 words/day (words, not characters), with each being writen about 40 times non-consecutively. Looking back, that was crazy! It took me about 1.5 hours every morning.
- I used the remaining time to look back some N4-N5 grammars, as I heard there are very few N3 grammars in N2 test (which turned out to be true, at least in my case), or quiz-and-answer with a friend of mine about vocabulary, Kanji, old and new grammars. Very random but helpful IMHO.
3. Another 3 hours in the afternoon, in my Japanese class.
4. I also started my part-time job in a convenience store from the 4th week, so after class I went to work. 4 hours per day, 4 days per week. On free day (Wed), I often went to the nearby church and took a 1.5-hour-Japanese free lesson there. Those enhanced my listening (and speaking, but it's unrevelant to JLPT) greatly.
5. I used to came back home at 11.00pm, opened my N2 grammar list and quickly went through all 172 patterns in a shortest time possible (10 mins) after that I usually spent 2 hours or so watching anime (Naruto, English subtitles)
6. On the weekend, I had another part-time job in a restaurant, which converts to 8 hours of passive exposure to Japanese every week.
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>>77334281
In Japan. But make sure to get a college educated gf; my ex couldn't really explain anything properly.
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My smartphone is broken and i'm doing anki from desktop. It's is more useful tbqh cause have addons and shit. But i'm having troubles to add cards since when I was in smartphone i used to copy and paste from the jsho app, switching it with Anki quickly and saving a lot of time. The web version of jsho is a crap we cannot even add cards directly with the whole information we need like in SF.
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>>77330343
Anki was the main reason why i switched to a smartphone.
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Post your handwriting and rate others

Sorry for sideways
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>>77340352
Not bad, but your き and gigantic ゆ in しゅう are killing me.

I like your こ and ふ, though.
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>>77342363
i'm sorry :(
my pen is quite thick
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>>77342363
also, your english handwriting is better than mine
i rarely take my pen off the page
such is life for chickenscratch
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bow wow
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I'd kill you if I could, race traitor. How's that?
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What is it with Japanese and blood types?
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Should I mine every unknown word? How should I schedule them? I've already learnt 31 words on top of Core's 20 today, but I still wanna keep going (with reading and mining).
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>>77345622
It's some nonsense equivalent to our horoscopes.
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>>77340352
Adorable

>>77342363
Pass as a chink
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>>77347281
wind-forest-fire-mountain

i'm never going to make it
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>>77347281
>all i recognised was nani
t-thanks anime
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Is っぽ replaced with っちょ in slang or are there other rules to it? I can't find any explanation on google.
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>>77345644
The normal way is to build a back log. Doing every word you mine immediately will lead to burn out. The hard part is keeping up with reviews, not the new cards.
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What does mean と in this sentence?
君たちがそう言うと不思議だなんだかまるで予言のようだ
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>>77351053
If,therefore
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Can I bump my own thread?
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Translate it, weebs.
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>>77354550
Looks like it. Why is DJT so dead? I haven't come here for about a year but it seems really slow. Although along with that there seems to be a lot less shitposting
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>>77338544
This is learning a test, not a language.
>speaking is irrelevant to JLPT
Absolute subhuman.
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What's the point of saying 友達のところの子 instead of 友達の子? Is this a common thing to say and does it mean "My friend's place's child/child at my friend's place"? I don't get why he wouldn't just say 友達の子
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>>77355861
Well, yes, you have your whole life to learn Japanese. If you are taking a test in three months it's not a bad idea to study for the test itself rather than to learn the language.
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>>77356206
Defeats the entire purpose of the JLPT, which is to assess Japanese language knowledge.
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What Anki addons do you use and why?

>Night Mode
To avoid burning my eyes
>True Retention by Card Maturity
>True Retention Graph
To evaluate my performance over time and know when I need to cram.
>Show Duplicates
To simplify the process of learning multiple readings/meanings
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Worth a look, if you haven't seen it yet.

https://www.jlpt.jp/e/about/pdf/cdslist_e_all.pdf
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>>77356322
Of course it defeats the purpose of the test, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.
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>>77356540
>19 and 20
>only 50-75% of N4 and N5
What
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>>77356199
It implies that it's not his friends kid, but a kid in the same household.
It's ages since i read yotsuba, but isn't she adopted or something?
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>>77357287

Yeah she's adopted. I kind of suspected it was that but in English you'd just say "It's his friend's kid" because it'd be kind of rude to make that distinction
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>>77313980
grind vocab and watch more
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>>77313980
talk to japanese people
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>>77357708
It's a pretty common way of phrasing things in Japanese, they often go by household instead of being specific about the family relations.
It's the closest you'd get to saying "it's his friends kid" without lying though.
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>>77356629
It does. You shouldn't apply for anything requiring proficiency in a language if you will not be able to keep that expected output.
That's the whole problem with educational systems that people are trying to fix, grades and tests are bad at measuring real knowledge when there is so much meta-game to account for.
It becomes a text interpretation challenge rather than a knowledge one, because test makers have to rule people out with ambiguity traps everywhere.
Of course here I'm speaking more broadly, in a language test having language-related tricks is not that bad.
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>>77357920

Thanks for the help
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traded for some random pin i had in my camelpack, cant wait for dem tachibana hs pins next year!
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>>77358010
I agree with you.
I just see things from the other side. If you need to get that N# JPLT certification for some reason, I think it's fine to just meta-game the whole thing.

In France, you need to obtain a certain TOEIC score to get a degree in engineering. So you know what they do in my university? They just take the students who failed the test, and they put them in special classes where they just take TOEIC tests forever until they pass. Sure, it's beyond retarded, but at the end of the day they get the score.
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What would the full sentence be here? If it were ポルシェを that could be ポルシェを買え and if it were ポルシェに it could be ポルシェにせよ or something, but I'm not seeing how で fits here when you're talking about urging someone to buy a product
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>katakana is used for loan wor-
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Anyone in for a reading challenge?
Let's say 1 book/manga/whatever you're comfortable with a week.
I'm going to try 1 book/2 weeks for now.
Starting with 偽物語 下 p 31/323.
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Are there any JLPT practice tests online?
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>>77360414
Yeah, on the JLPT site there's both a sample test and "study materials" which are a longer version of the sample test.
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>>77359407
I honestly don't know the rest of the sentence. I just know that it's a common way of phrasing a choice, such as "I'll go with ~".
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>>77359407
it's as >>77360827 says, I'm not sure what the complete sentence would be. Oで行くmaybe?
Anyway, it's a very common way of phrasing such a sentence
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>>77310385
Adding on to what this guy said, are leeches removed entirely? Can I see which ones became leeches?
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>>77361510
>emoved entirely
As in deleted? No. They just don't show up for review anymore. You can view leech status through the Browse menu. You'll also get a popup in the bottom left of the window announcing when a card has become a leech.
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>>77360300
a reading group sounds fun
something we can use to keep track of things and make notes about what we are reading
a more living, breathing part of the reading list, something other anons can follow and pick up the same things to read if it catches their interest
good for motivation
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Is there a word, either in Japanese or in English, for people of Japanese ethnicity, distinct from simply having been born in Japan?
Like what Mestizo is to Mexican, or what Germanic is to European.
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>>77361568
Thanks, I noticed it a few months back and just kind of ignored it. The browse menu kind of confuses me a bit. If I remove the tag or delete them will it funnel the card back into circulation?
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>>77362635
I don't have any leeches so I can't tell you with certainty how one would go about removing leech status off of individual cards. If you want to change the threshold or make it so they don't get suspended you can click on your deck then at the bottom Options -> Lapses and then change the threshold to whatever or set Leech action to "Tag Only". I believe that should put them all back in.
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>>77362755
Thanks, I'll give a try, I only have about 9 or 10 so I can do what the other anon said and just write them out consciously on my own for practicing.
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>>77362635
if they aren't set back into the normal reviews after changing the options, in the card browser select the deck add tag:leech after the deck name
something like
deck:CoreX tag:leech
all of the suspended leech card will show, so select all of them and hit the suspend button and they will be unsuspended and back into circulation
the next time they or any other card is marked as leech, it won't be suspended if the options are set to tag only
if the leech cards don't show up, try
deck:CoreX is:suspended
instead
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>ビールも買っとこ
>買っとこ
What is this? I have literally never heard of this. Does it have something to do with the ておく form of verbs?
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>>77361701
if anyone want's to make a document to keep track that's fine too i suppose.
I was thinking of reporting back here once a day though.
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Boys, I'm sorry to say this, but Anki just doesn't work.
Hell, even Duolingo is less of a headache.
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>>77363158
It's a contracted version of 買っておこう (let's buy ahead of time)
買っとこ is what it sounds like if you say 買っておこう fast
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>>77363064
>>77363064
I got now
>"deck:Core 2k/6k Optimized Japanese Vocabulary" tag:leech
I get what your saying, adding those lists to the deck. Didn't know you could do that. I should go through the manual one of these days.

>>77363230
>need to put はinto sentences to be correct
>need to put "today" in the english sentence at the end instead of the front for it to be correct.

You can justify the はthing but it's not necessary in conversation and saying I'm wrong for skipping it is trivial. The today thing is trivial too the English sentence is less important than grasping the idea of the Japanese one.

Try taping your eyelids open though for Anki.


I haven't posted on 4chan for a while. Is it common now to get connection time out issues for solving captchas?
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>>77363179

I may be interested in this as well. I'd prefer if it were somewhat slow-paced through so that we can read other things and pursue our own interests and also be apart of the reading group. Furthermore, if it's too fast-paced then less people will want to do it.
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>>77363158
what anon said, it's ておく+
https://web.archive.org/web/20170701034148/https://djt.neocities.org/bunpou/full_day.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20170701034148/https://djt.neocities.org/bunpou/full_day.html#%E3%8A%A6%E3%81%BE%E3%81%97%E3%82%87%E3%81%86
the bottom link is ましょう but is also overlaps with おく, in its notes
you can see how it is referred to as the volitional 飲もう/行こう

>>77363179
>I was thinking of reporting back here once a day though.
sounds good
I'm probably going to finish reading the manga I'm reading at the moment
will post the next series and maybe set out to read it in X days like you said.
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>>77363476
As I said, go at your own pace, be realistic.
If you want to go by pages instead that's fine too, do 2 pages a day if that's the level you're on.
The Idea was to have a challenge to stick to.
>>
Would you translate "だって向こうにも原因はあるじゃん" as "After all, there are reasons on the other side too"?
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>>77364352
more like "cause" or "fault" than "reasons", but otherwise yes.
>>
Is とらぶる a good idea for baby's first ecchi read? The only thing I can see going wrong is that instead of looking up vocab I'll just click through parts I don't understand to fap.
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>>77365074
Having played 抜きゲー in Japanese, I must say stopping midway to look up vocab actually makes the whole experience interesting.
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What's the best way to learn kanji? Tae Kim (and others, I'm sure) suggest learning kanji + radicals in conjunction with vocab instead of isolating the characters. Other people suggest learning the most common radicals that make up ~75% of kanji early on in your studies, i.e., learning them separate from vocab.

Also, has anyone tried pic related?
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>>77361775
I know that expatriates are named 一世, 二世, 三世 and so on depending on their generation.
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>>77365865
download obenkyo for your phone
>>
>>77365865
The app Tsukiji does wonders, I also used wanikani for the first ones as well as radicals, however the progress is unbearably slow.
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>>77366226
Looks nice, thanks! Is there a one-size-fits-all or should i just get N5 since I'm just starting out?

>>77366278
Couldn't find this one on iOS or Mac OS
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>>77365865
>>77366482
I just actually settled down on a method a week ago: I decided on the Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course. It's much more recent than RTK (2013 vs 1977) but builds a lot on the core idea of matching a keyword and mnemonic to each kanji. You don't memorize radicals---it introduces every radical or grapheme as you come upon them in works. Read the intro of it for a better explanation of why it's an innovative method, but it's sequential so you never see a component in a kanji you haven't encountered before. It uses mnemonics but also includes vocab. I'm finding it to be a very good straightforward resource so far and plan on following it through the 2300 kanji it provides. While reading/studying grammer/learning vocab alongside it. Of course a tool is only as good as the one holding it, so I'm trying very hard to discipline myself and stick to a daily allotment.

https://djtguide.neocities.org/resource%20guide.html#Kanji
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>>77365865
>>77366482
>>77366535
Forgot to add that this is the blog post that kind of helped me finalize the decision, I'm glad it exists because this book is exactly what I was looking for. http://redbluefire.com/blog/how-i-study-japanese-kanji/
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>>77366482
it has both options to sort them by JLPT levels and grades.
I'd say start with the 80 first grade 1 Kanji
>>
Where do I get Japanese VNs?
>>
>>77367176
One of the nyaa clones, baidu, anime-sharing but only rarely in my experience
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>>77366535
>>77366577
Wow, this is great! Thank you so much! I'm definitely going to look into these.

>>77366634
I'll check out N5 then, thanks! I think it's good to have a studying/learning resource on the go. I probably won't end up using any single source exclusively, though.
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>>77367467
I bought the physical book so that I can have it next to a notebook as I write, but you can just use the pdf in the djt guide too. I have gotten through three semesters of college Japanese class only to realize how slow the pace of the classes is and how inefficient genki is at teaching. I started brute force hammering kanji decks earlier this summer, but I didn't find that method satisfying enough. I wanted something comprehensive, relatively inclusive, and most of all practical and focused on learning and recognizing kanji. I found KLC in my local japanese bookstore and was pretty much sold after reading the introduction. Came back here and heard more good things, so I went and bought it and am beyond happy with how fun it is. Really looking forward to powering through it by the end of the year.
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Context: He's never said this before

So って can just be used for emphasis without any meaning of a quote whatsoever? That clears up a lot if true
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>>77359407
I think it's the 連用形 of だ in this case and not the case particle で.
So it's like "so it will be a porsche (and)..."
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Can anyone recommend some good VNs for beginners?
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>>77369016
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>>77368646
Pretty much.
って(言ってるのよ)
Similar to "I'm telling you..."
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>>77368784
No, I believe he's saying he'll choose a Porsche then. Just a way of expressing a choice.

ご飯がいい?パンがいい?
じゃあ、パンで。
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>>77369088
日本語で漏れなつをやりたいけど、方法が分からない
ロカールを変えるかもしれない?ぜひ分からない。
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>>77363179
>>77363608
finished what I was reading and now going to read GA-芸術科アートデザインクラス-
the aim is to read around half a volume a day
if anyone else wants to read alongside, here is a link https://mega.nz/#F!wE4lzZDJ!HJzU87OZ4dzVTXJ_rLKnbg
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ああぁ。そう言うことね。
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>「マブい」ときたか
>で前に出りゃ
What do these things mean? Also, when he says "マブイあの娘に", what does the に refer to?
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>>77359096
I understand the perspective, my view is more about "you should just accept you're not qualified and fuck off, let qualified people get the spot".

But I know human greed has not boundaries. Core told me so!
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Dudes, let's stop linking to the Discord group on the OPs.
At first I thought it would be a bad idea because the group would become shit, but what happened instead is the thread itself is getting less traffic, even dying prematurely these days.

Leave the URL for when/if someone asks for it.
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>>77371285
>「マブい」ときたか
I think it's something like "Oh, so she's cute, huh?"
>で前に出りゃ
前に出れれば
>マブイあの娘に…
…近づきたい
…触れたい
>>
>シ
>ツ
>ン
>ソ

sadists.
>>
What's the best text hooker for Windows?
>>
>>77360300
>>77361701
>>77363179
>>77370909
Sounds like a good idea, people tend to get more motivated if others do the same + we can help each other if someone struggles with a part etc.
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>>77371886
>I
>l
>m
>rn
>u
>v
>0
>O
>g
>9
Sadists.
>>
anyone know strats to finding japanese friends nearby?
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>>77372000
good post
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>>77307561
Does anyone have any research on to what extent LSD has played in the Japanese music scene?
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>over 11k words learned
>just found out 郊 校 and 交 are different kanji
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>>77373029
Now that I think about it, 部 and 郊 are also different kanji. I often get them mixed up
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>>77371906
ithvnr, read the guide
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>>77371502
The discord was always shit. It's a cancerous circlejerk. Threads dying is exactly what happens whenever cancerous circlejerks start manipulating the social standards of the thread like you and your mentally ill friends. You did this yourselves, you fucking narcissists.
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>>77373927
Not really sure what you mean, I've been posting in the exact same fashion since /a/ and will trash/help anyone at any time, indiscriminately.
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>>77374079
Yes, and now that there's a discord, you get to hang out with other people that do the same thing. Literally the cancer that kills anonymous forums.
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