WTF is happening in Poland?

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They are defending their country and culture. Can Germany do the same please?

>>77257871
Ruling party did a nazi style purge in the supposedly independed courts, including the supreme court responsible for monitoring the elections

Pls send tanks

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>>77259670
>Pls send tanks
Comrade..

>>77259765
send in the tanks

>>77259670
>Pls send tanks
sup bby

>>77257871
Nothing good. A democratically elected government is trying to destroy democracy. What does this reminds you of my German friend?

MUH DEMOCRACY

>>77257914
Fucking yanks

>>77257914
poland has no culture and isn't under attack, there is nothing to defend

>>77257871
goverment passed a law that lets them appoint judges in supreme court and ends the terms of current judges, and also lets them influence judges on lower courts (politicians choose memers of disiplinary commision that can throw judges out of profession), obviously breaking the constitution. supreme court is also the the institution that validates elections, so ggwp democracy, we had a good run, we turkey now

>>77259765
>>77259792
>it is the Russian supported government that has to be taken down
>Russian flags respond
Fuck off putin dogs.

>>77261277
>PiS
>pro-Russian
Are you mentally challenged?

>>77261439
>reading comprehension
Ivan pls.They Are supported by Russian operatives even if they are not 'pro-Russia'.
All parties like them in the EU get support from Russia.Be it direct or indirect support.

>>77261570
That's some reptilians tier conspiracy

>>77261570
What support are you talking about? The current Polish government has been pushing for an extension of anti-Russian sanctions like no other. They're also strongly calling for an increase of Nato activity on Russia's borders. PiS might be slightly EU-sceptic but that doesn't mean shit if they want to see all Russians dead anyways. They even think Russia was involved in the death of Lech Kaczynski. Seriously you can hate Russia if you want to but take off your fucking tinfoil hat. Not everyone is a secret Kremlin agent.

>>77261439
Of course they are. If I told you I'm a giraffe would you believe me? This is what they do. They say how antirussian they are but don't look at what they say, look at what they do and with whom they associate with. There is a lot of Russian spies aroud them and only Russia is gaining from their decisions.

>>77261277
PiS actually spit on russia

>>77261754
t.putinbot9000
Yep.Russian politicians are coldblooded subhumans, you got that part right.

>>77261770
I don't think Kaczynski is working for Russia. I think there are people in his circle. Read about Macierewicz, our Minister of Defense.

>>77261770
>>77261783
Are you retarded?Don't listen to what they say but look at what they are doing.See this >>77261777 triple sevens of truth.

>>77261777
Yes, just like Hillary Clinton is merely pretending to hate Putin as well. I mean look at the Uranium deal, she's clearly a Russian agent in disguise

>>77261802
>putinbot
Jeesus, that's a strong brainwashing you got there. Check inder your bad may be there is putin's agent right now.

>>77261864
>>77261903
>those are not the putinbots you're looking for
Sod off Putin dogs.

>>77260925
>>77259849
>>77259670
please end your lives if you consider this a bad thing

>>77261988
t.the putinbot changed his IP
Suck more Putin cock you subhuman.Spread his cancer propaganda.

>>77261864
I don't know much about Hillary. But Macierewicz is doing busines with people connected to Russian mafia and government (one thing :) ) in his free time. He was caught many times sharing secret information with unveryfied people, once even he was caught on outsourcing translation of our military data tu russian and he couldn't explain why? I know I won't convice you but ask yourself, would you trust a politician like that?

>the thing replied to me
ewww, get it off, get it off

>>77261848
What they are doing is sanctioning Moscow, demanding more American military presense in Europe and repeatedly proposing a hard stance toward Russia. I don't know how it is even possible to see ties between PiS and Moscow, this is Hitler tier anti-Russian paranoia

>>77262036
Is that one guy representative for the entire party? There are outliers everywhere, even among US Democrats

>>77261943
You are hilarious

>>77262047
>turn Poland into a dictatorship
>remove the separation of powers
>make it easier for Putin and his cronies to influence individuals in power
All this while throwing sand in your eyes with talk of sanctions.They are literally going the way of T*rkroachland.

>T*rkroachland.
so basically bulgaria XD

>>77262096
>>77262134
>can't think a constructive reply
>name calling begins
Putinbots pls...can you suck more Putin cock than you already do?Not a single bad word about Putin and his subhuman politics from you.How does it feel to be subhuman dogs working for Putin пyткaтa.

>>77262047
Two things. It's not the whole PiS, just Macierewicz surrounding. If they were openly pro Russian they wouldn't win last elections. They are happy with the minimal American presence in Poland and in the same matter most of our millitary spendings go to useless sunday army instead of modern military hardware. Again, most of PiS are just opurtunistic snails who don't care, some of the PiS are patriots with, in my opinion, pretty twisted views about what is good for the country but there is also a very dangerous element in PiS.

>>77262194
I stopped supporting Putin after he went for the third term and I despise his economical policy and total fail in fighting corruption but hysteria you have is ridiculosly dumb and conpirologic

>>77262094
One guy who is a second most important one in the party and also a Minister of Defence. And he is letting a lot of shady people in. Did you know that last time he was in power 10 years ago, one of his first decissions was to unmask most of our sicret operatives both in and outside the country? His first decision in current governmant was forced eviction of Nato (polish, czech) counterinteligence cell in poland. He's eliminating people that could be a threat to him. And no one in PiS is doing anything about it.

>>77262273
>fighting corruption
>he IS corruption
kek
>economical policy
The average Russian is starving while the oligarchs are eating up everything.I am not sure that this qualifies as economical policy at all.A policy of corruption sounds more like it.
>I stopped supporting Putin after he went for the third term
Wow it took you some time.
>hysteria you have is ridiculosly dumb and conpirologic
Cтpaх лoзe пaзи...

>>77262371
>both in
>and outside the country
Why is this person not in prison?This is literally what a double agent would do to hand over your operatives to the enemy on a platter.

Jesus...

Do we have a new Ikibey?

>>77262375
>russians starving
>comes from bulgarian
nigga

>>77262194
Hello angry Turk !!!!!


I bet you Are not Real bulgarian (turk)

Real Volga tatar Bulgariens come from russia or Volga tartaria bulgarians empire !!!!!

All i can say is

Whan a turk or mixed turk born the haven cry

Whan a turk die the haven sing !!!!!

Turks are subhumans i know a lot of Bulgariens and they all remember batak and shipka and how russian and ballgarian junaki dobrovolci kicked your turk muslim ass out of the Balkan !!! And the Balkan was free for ever and ever from your shitskin fat faces till this day !!!!

Fuck you turk real bulgarians know thet without help from russian empire you was still licking turkians boyta and was muslims slavs now and russia never get her cyrillic alfabet and was speaking some anknow dead dialects !!!

So Thanks all bulgarians byzantinium brothers kiril and metodi for the cyrillic we love it and Will never forget it its our now !!!!!!!!

>>77262428
Cause of the reasons we are talking about in here. And now without independent courts... See? Maybe this is another reason why are they doing it. I hope we have a normal elections in 2 years. My country doesn't deserve this.

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>>77257871
It reminds me of when I joined the candlelight vigil calling for Ms. Park (former president of Korea who was ousted from office by the constitional court) to step down.

>>77262533
t.putinbot9000
>>77262491
>russians are totally not starving and living in mud huts like our gysies do
nigga
>>77262546
No country deserves this.We were a step away from something similar happening here.Thank god that we dodged the bullet for now.

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>>77262634
Why do you even exist?

>>77262651
You really need a menthal help

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>>77262822
You really need financial help.

>>77262899
Lol. That blow

>>77262899
I'm prerry sure I'm richer than you

>>77262980
>there are russians starving on the streets while this putinbot brags how wealthy he is
sad
>>77263077
t.putinbot9000

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>>77261277
>>77261570
>>77261848

>Russia is to blame for everything!

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>>77263206
Этo cмeшнo, cyбхaнaлЛaх

>>77263223
t.amerilard
Don't worry, the US is the same cancer as Russia.

>>77257871
Enforcing their borders, unlike G*rmany

>>77259885

fr*nch scum

>>77262899
Tипичный бeлopyccкий бoмж
This news is from Ukraina not russia ??

Fuck this turk osman i Am going to gym then to orthdox charch to take shower in holy Water and then to sing greek old slavic songs bye slavic brothers love you all its time to pray for Jesus in My orthdox way of Life !!!

>>77257871
they NEED communism to come back

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>>77263467
t.putinbot9000

>>77263570
>deny something that actually came to end during Putins first two terms

>>77263623
no, it didn't. you are either just clueless or are actually a putinbot

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>>77263488
>they NEED communism
we all do my friend

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>>77263623
>came to end during Putins first two terms
>came to end
nigga

Why the fuck i sm here in this shity polish b8t thread ?

Fucking askenazi polack with his fissing bout in the sea try to Hunt us to come to his crying thread

Pizdec My papali na ego rybalnoju utaczku !!

>>77263857
>he bumps the thread even more
Are you new?You look new.

>>77263745
This food is no different from what I eat.

I think it is really dangerous to blame all European problems on Russia.
Not only does it create hate between people, it also prevents us from searching for the real roots of the problems

>>77264190
>all European problems on Russia
So you are ready to admit that a lot of the problems come from Russian meddling?

There is also US meddling,German greed and arrogance is also a factor.Political subhumans from around the globe and their power struggles is also a factor.
Mudslimes and the entities that spread their *welcome to the middle ages* religion is also a problem.

Many problems and Russia is definitely one of them.

>>77263679
И кoгдa ты пocлeдний paз видeл бecпpизopникa?

>>77264419
i do believe that russian hacking played a role in US elections, but it wasn't the major cause that Trump won.
The major cause, in my opinion, is the fact that many people are disillusioned with the political elite, who don't care for the little man. Thus people wanted to vote for somebody who wasn't part of the establishment.

>>77264451
>i don't see them
>they are not there
Btw i was not talking specifically about homeless people.I was talking about poverty in general.

>>77257871

It's a march in honor of the victims of the Dresden bombings

>>77264505
I am not talking about the US.I am talking about Europe.Read...

>>77264577
you mentioned US meddling, and i replied to this, since this was the part of your post i am most knowledgable about

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>>77264545
What about here?

>>77264601
I am talking about the US meddling in Europe and not Russia's meddling in the US.

>>77257871
mind your own damn business, germ
>>77259670
court-shmort

>>77264666
>court-shmort
You have to be 18 years of age to post here.

>>77264666
we are both europeans, members of the single market
what happens in your country affects me and vice verse

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>>77264684
>Bulgarian flag
You have to be human to post here.
>>77264692
szwaby raus

>>77264762
>they don't have roller coasters for animals in his country
Animals are people too you know.

>>77264692
Don't feed the troll.

>>77264977
gotta keep this thread alive

>>77264977
He is bumping the tread so it is all good.

>>77265043
>>77265044
Ok, sorry guys, my bad. Feed him, feed him till he chokes to death!

>>77257871
PiS is preparing a transformation of the democracy into a fascist dictaroship, that's what's happening. And they're doing on the back of clueless voters and people afraid of brown people (even though zero exist in poland)

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>>77264977
Were you born with a dick in your mouth or did you grow into such a massive faggot?
>>77264851

>>77257914
From what? No refugee wants to go there.

>>77265116
get out maciek, do your homework or something

>>77265095
I think he ran away.Well, hopefully he will come back when i remake this thread tomorrow.Time to go back to work.

>>77257914
you have ZERO clue what is going on there and what they are protesting. Yanks should be banned from /int/ ffs.

>>77264522
You seriously compare 90's poverty and what we have now? We had average salary of 600$ in 2013 and even after the oil crisis it is 400$ now which is higher than in Bulgaria while in 1999 it was 90$-100$

>>77265105
>and people afraid of brown people (even though zero exist in poland)
Switch that "even though" to "thanks to which".
>>77265151
>you have ZERO clue what is going on there
And so do you. Germs should be banned from /int/. They're so obnoxiously self-righteous. Always were, actually.

>>77265251
He is right though.

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>>77265201
>has oil
>has gas
>has the biggest territory
>poor as fuck
I guess you really love your oligarchs and their master Putin.I guess that nationwide pro putin propaganda brainwashing really works.They can be skinning you alive and yet you will claim that you are doing hunky dory.

>>77265364
No, he's not. And neither are your cringy conspiration theories, which I've seen in like three different threads now.

>>77265817
No, really, he is. And so am I, sadly.

>>77265906
Good luck Polandbro, I hope you all make it through this. Democracy is a precious and fragile thing, if you lose it you may not get it back.

That's what you get for not having a King.

>>77265201
Ivan y r u so poor?

>>77266118
because we are a nation of low iq drunktard subhumans and whores, ruled by a bunch of greedy oligarchs

So how worried are Polish people right now?
Did people kinda knew what they were getting into when they voted for PiS?
What do Polish anons think will happen now?

>>77266154
Come here ivan, we give you monies.

>>77265400
how the fuck is Ukraine worse than Moldova?

>>77265400
>Natural resources will make you a rich country
Natural resources tend to make only a few people in that country rich.

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why are you poles so fucking gay?

>right wing dictatorship
>bad

no wonder your emigrant women are getting /blacked/. you're the worst nation in /v4/ and i wish you were booted desu

>>77266249
what is Norway ?

>>77257871
There are many things that our government wants to achieve by destroying the ruleof independence of the courts: own impunity, controle over next elections, a whip against the opposition, destruction of free media (it was the independent court that was blocking the govs agenda against TV,Radio, Newspapers) and finally, they count on EU sanctions, so they can say: "look, bad EU is against Poland, lets leave". Welcome to Socialist republic of Poland vol.2

>>77257871
stay in 3rd world, polacks. you couldnt get over your shitty 3rd world mentality. you cant grow without pain and hardship but you hated it and somehow got the very wrong idea instead. good luck

>>77266201
From my observations, 1/3 of polulation is in panic mode, 1/3 are happy how things are going, 1/3 are too stupid to care. We as a nation have a tendency for self-destruction and we like rebuilding things from ashes.

>>77266426
Norway was a rich country before natural resources were found. When it's a poor country and you find resources, it basically never becomes rich. Has any African country benefitted from having natural resources?

>>77266233
I will actually. Studying finnish currently. I only hope it won't be hard to find a job. I heard someone with knowledge of russian are welcomed by employers.

>>77265400
That's outdated since it is 400$ already (so 150$ recovery in 2 years).
>resources
We produce as much oil as Saudi Arabia and have 5 times bigger pipulation. That barely gives any impact. Norway produces like 10-20 times more oil per capita. All other resources are barely significant.

>>77266578
>We as a nation have a tendency for self-destruction and we like rebuilding things from ashes
Is that what you think will happen? A complete reset?

>>77266366
>serbia

Doubt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_parliament_(expression)

>"Polish parliament" (Swedish and Norwegian: Polsk riksdag) is an expression referring to the historical Polish parliaments (Sejm walny).
>It implies chaos and general disorder, and that no real decision can be reached during sessions.

>>77266799
The Polish-lithuanian commonwealth was a mess like that. I think in Germany that used to be a term as well

>>77266799
>>77266935
liberum veto was a mistake
democracy was a mistake

>>77267034
Oligarchy =/= democracy. Only the highest folks of shlyakhta could vote, how can one call it democracy?

>>77267109
it was more of an aristocracy, i would say

finally the age of Poland empire comes

>>77267109
Not the highest, szlachta overall. But what else would you expect back then? That a random peasant would have a vote? How would you even organise that?
Either way it was mistake, because the king had little power without szlachta's support, meaning he had to give them more and more privledges to do any sort of reforms he wanted.

>>77266707
I hope it won't happen, and even if it does it won't be complete. But we aren't in the position to make even one step back in the progress. And this new laws are pushing us back dangerously close to what we had in here before '89. It makes me really sad and angry. But on the brighter note, we also have a history of opposing the oppression, although not the one that we grew ourselves.

>>77266045
Democracy is a sham.

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>>77266710
have you ever been on /ex-yu/ hans

it's just balkan niggers posting black women and about how much they want to fuck them

>>77267207
Yes but why call it democracy? No demos was involved in cratos

>>77267218
The mere fact, that you can publicly critisize the system your living in, without fearing to get locked-up and/or tortured/killed, should tell you, that democracy is worth keeping

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>>77267359
>you can publicly criticise the UK government without fear of getting locked up, tortured or killed

>>77267418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BrRpi3u_xw
If this guy can do videos like this and is still free and alive, then my point stands.

>>77267446
>doesn't say anything about immigration
And that's why he's okay. He's not a real threat to their plan.

>>77267251
I don't know what else would you call it. I suppose it was a mix of several systems, but in the end all szlachta (aound 10-15% of population) had the same voting rights, the king was elected, we had a parliment, sejm and senat, seperation of power and so on.
Were there any countries, other than some city-states, that had a system this close to democracy?

>>77267504
>He's not a real threat to their plan.
And Milo Yiannopoulos is still a free man because...?

>>77267418
I struggle to see your point here

>>77266201
> So how worried are Polish people right now?
Hard to say since most comments under news articles are paid trolls flinging shit at each other. But I was on one of the protests yesterday and I could feel the sadness among those that bothered to come.

> Did people kinda knew what they were getting into when they voted for PiS?
The only reason they won is because the whole time they were pretending they totally got over their old crazy selves (2005-2007). Go figure.

>What do Polish anons think will happen now?
More protests which will be promptly ignored and the law will pass since the Constitutional Tribunal is fucked too. Since all major European elections are over now (except for the German one which we know Merkel will win anyways) the rest of EU might decide to change carrot for a stick, and thing will get ugly.

>>77267546
Basically anu empire around it. Nobility of your neighbours just wasn't so stupud to deny the rule of the king/emperor with every chance possible.

>>77267615
He's a faggot and he's barely even in England these days.

>>77267616
He implied that democracy means you are safe from living in a police state. The UK is democratic and also a police state. Do keep up.

>>77266243

Ukraine has a large grey economy which is hard to account for.

>>77257871
They're saving themselves from the degeneracy we see in the West.

I for one look forward to the day the Polish activate their sleeper cells here and install a friendly fascist Irish Government.

>>77268065
>He's a faggot
Doesn't change anything, related to the topic
>barely even in England these days.
When he is in England, is he arrested? No? My point still is valid

>>77268208
>topic is about police states and protected classes
>him being a protected class has nothing to do with it!
Embarrassing. Even for a kraut.

He has yet to say any "hate speech" in England. So no. But when he does, he will be. Your point is invalid. You are mentally disabled.

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>>77259670
bad goys that's what happens when u support nationalism

>for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction
>(((Isaac Newton)))

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>>77268271
>This was a huge add in the Brexit debate and that side even won the referendum
>"You can't say anything against immigration or you will be locked-up"
You must be trolling.

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>>77265400
>rasha
>not white nigeria

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>>77268424
Sit the fuck down, kraut. Don't make me start bringing up the examples of men being imprisoned over bacon sandwiches.

>ever responding to a butcher's apron or nazi tarpaulin on /int/

Reminder that the Anglo-Saxons still came from Germany.

>>77268535
>Reported to police
Did it get taken down? No?
>of men being imprisoned over bacon sandwiches
>get on private property to overtly harrass a group
>Get imprisoned
>It was just my freedom of speech
Stating an opinion and acting in a manner that openly degrades people and actually hinders them from entering their place of worship is not the same, m8

>>77268579
I'm a pure-blooded Gael.

>>77268719
>actually defending a death sentence over a fucking bacon sandwich at your doorstep
There's the kraut we all know and wish had been wiped out of existence a millenium ago so that Europe would never be ruined by his evil kin. Defender of freedom! Lover of liberty!

>>77268790
> a death sentence over a fucking bacon sandwich at your doorstep
He got send to prison, he wasn't sentenced to death. One of the guys got murdered in prison, probably by an angry Muslim. That's not the systems fault.
>Kraut kraut kraut kraut kraut
I'm done talking to you.

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>>77268870
> One of the guys got murdered in prison, probably by an angry Muslim. That's not the systems fault.
>mfw

Sorry, I should've known you were actually a turk all along. What with your flag and all.