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isn't it a bit too early to breach your containment?
>>>/pol/

>>77257793
I'm not a /pol-guy, my friend <3

they are not commies per se
they use commies as empowerment for egalitarian values, obv not because they want to do hard labor

>>77257749
ussr never had full featured communism

original commies were pretty faggy

postwar ussr = socialism

>>77257829
But socialism is a first phase of communism. Do they go back to socialism or just never comes up to communism, how do you think?
>>77257827
Why they're not imprisoned then?

>>77257873
commies? no
there is an american communist party you know

>>77257910
>cpusa
>communist
hello fbi

>>77257873
>But socialism is a first phase of communism.

depends

in some way they regected original commie degenerate ideas (like degenerate art or architecture, look up something from 20s you will shit bricks probably)

OTOH socialism also had degenerate art

there's nothing wrong with degenerate art in fact, because capitalism has the most degenerate """""""""""""""art""""""""""""""" anyway

>>77257910
I just don't understand what's the point. Like there's a people with some values and ideas. It's not same with real practical communism (even if it wasn't full feautured communism) but, by some reasons, they're using exactly this lable no matter that they don't have anything in common. What's the point?

>>77257873
>Do they go back to socialism or just never comes up to communism, how do you think?

They'll all end up as feminized trans-African obese homosexuals that'll never reproduce. Pretty much the end game of modern leftism.

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>>77257952
>What's the point?

the point is that traditional values are enemy of "gommunism" (or first-stage gommunism)

it was the same in russia but nobody remember it

its basically a cultural revolution, it may look different because the time and situation is different

>>77257749
This happens because nobody knows about Pontecorvo

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>>77259222

It's kind of funny, actually, Western liberals were seen as mentally ill

>>77257749
Check out eurocommunism. Western commies were seperate from USSR communism and in fact often criticized it for those exact reasons you bring up.

>>77257749
This picture doesnt make any sense
All the non-jew zionists and jew lovers are conservative
Leftists are much more prone to supporting israel

>>77261092
*leftists are much more prone to supporting palestine

Some more thingd that dont make sense in that picture

-conservatives are fatter than liberals
-sweden and most of the other nordic countries have opened male rape centers
>iceland has one of the highest birthrates in europe

>>77261160
Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2325414/Men-physically-strong-likely-right-wing-political-views.html

>>77261231
Did you even read the study or just the daily mail article?
Wait a minute, of course of only read the daily mail article
Daily mail blantanly misinterpreted the study

Captcha: 1000 richman

>>77257749
Bump for answers

>>77257749
they don't support stalinist communism.
instead, they are post-modernist who follow the "question everything" idea.
Thus, they question social constructs like marriage, gender and so on

>>77261249
>Russian Communist
>Thinks
Pick one

>>77257749
There's more to communism than USSR. The post-Lenin Soviet Union was not in any way communist beyond the name, nor indeed was it trying to be. Stalinism is better considered as a rather strangled and bureaucratic form of fascism.

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>be blue collar worker
>vote for free market capitalist party that keeps on ruining this country
>do so because they support my union while the socialist parties dont give a shit
>mfw looking outside and seeing bunch of students and unemployed dregs holding communist protests on streets

>>77261092
This. Even some gay pride parade recently kicked out Jews for having a Star of David. Things are changing and Jews outside of LA/NYC are starting to be much more right wing and conservative. Only /pol/tards don't understand the difference between Jews and zionists and the fact lefties hate zionists and zionists are right wing and as a defined national movement against globalism. But muh Jews muh Zionist muh killers of the white race.

>>77261249
He wouldn't be anti-feminist, though.

>>77264052
Kill yourself if you even believe this a little bit...

Have you ever been to a university or tried a real life political debate with these morons? It's the comeplete opposite of question everything. It's more like eat up every single thing the professors and media tell you and if you question any of it you're an alt right nazi. Both sides are dumb but the left is by far the most indoctrinated unquestioning people I've ever seen

>>77266229
i was just explaining the philosphy of postmodernism to our russian friend.
i have no idea why you are so angry at me

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>>77257749
i literally have no idea
it's because westerners are gay faggots

you remember the DDR right? They were always slightly off and more decadent than the rest. And now German communists who are from the DDR are full on faggots.

Westerners can't handle nazbol.

>>77266535
beeing faggot is a side-effect of beeing a developed country.
You are not better than us. You are just poor and still developing. Once you become a developed nation, you will be just as faggy as us

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>>77266728
nigga germany was just as faggy in the 50's as they were today, and that was after a devastating nuclear holocaust.

the east germans were the biggest fags in the eastern bloc, even though the czechs were richer and more industrialized then them.

your country has no history of cynicism and has been continually taught to be ashamed of being german and anybody even remotely racist has been thrown out of political and social life.

blow me hans

>>77257829
>>77257946
He's right, the early USSR of the 1920s had a lot of experimentation going on; there were anarchists, feminists, nudists, free love types. The Roaring '20s was a very liberal decade for social ideas and they were just riding the bandwagon. Stalin purged all of them and instituted a very button-down social conservatism that was kind of like the Amish.

>>77261160
>iceland has one of the highest birthrates in europe
There's nothing else to do in Iceland but fucking.

>>77266111
Jews have historically tended to be left-leaning because minority groups in a society are always attracted to leftist politics. But drop one of them into Israel and they instantly turn into a chest-beating patriot.

>>77259431
Most communist parties in the West broke with Moscow after the Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia (some even earlier after the Hungarian Revolution of 1956).

Liberalization during the Prague Spring was democratic socialism. Censorship was completely abolished for a few months. Dubček's program was called Socialism with a human face.

After Soviet tanks crushed the spirit of 1968, they imposed neo-Stalinist repression. This period in our history is called Normalization and it lasted until the late 1980s.

>>77267421
>Most communist parties in the West broke with Moscow after the Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia (some even earlier after the Hungarian Revolution of 1956).

The Hungarian uprising in 1956 coincided with Khrushchev's denunciation of Stalin, which severely divided the communist bloc. But even before that, Western communists were becoming disillusioned with the USSR when it had become clear that Stalin was merely trying to recreate the Russian Empire rather than spread world revolution

By the 60s, China and Cuba were far more popular with Western leftists.

>>77267421
>they imposed neo-Stalinist repression.
Of course, they've done this with help of local collaborators and opportunists. Those elements were crucial for any occupying power.

>>77267537
>By the 60s, China and Cuba were far more popular with Western leftists

China had the edge on revolutionary militancy but Moscow were actively funding leftist/insurgent groups across the globe from the 60s through the 80s. Everything from the Black Panthers to the IRA to the PLO were bankrolled by the Soviets.

>>77267537
1960s New Left was a diverse bunch. Maoists, Trotskyists etc.

>>77257749
Communism isn't marxist-leninism you uneducated dumbcunt. It's not even a type of communism, it's a kind of authoritarian socialism at most but even that's debatable. You should learn this shit because it is relevant to your history, not spew memes.

I very much doubt any but a few autists look upon the USSR kindly.

>>77268454
Latin America has a lot of tankies. At least that's what I've seen on Jacobin's Facebook page.

>>77268539
They're dumb daddy's money college students who think Cuba is Paradise. Because we all love empty store shelves and two hours of electricity a day.

How's those abortion, divorce, drug use, murder, scamming, longevity, corruption and censorship rates going, Vladimir?

>>77268586
They're just the flipside of Eastern European right-wingers.