What's the difference between Russia and the Ukraine?

none, add belarus to that list

One exists the other one doesn't.

>>77224333
what's the difference between lithuania and russia?

>>77224333
No difference really.

>>77224360
this desu

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>>77224333
Ukraine is a good country and ally. Russia is quite bad.
>>77224360
Belarus is exactly the same as russia. The "white" part of it's name is a lie.
>>77224377
Lithuania is better, but the same.

>>77224333
The smell

>>77224377
Language

>>77224333
ukraine is a fake nazi state

>>77224427
95% of ukrainians know Russian
70% use it as their primary language

>>77224427
bullshit, you all can speak russian in lithuania

One has a shitload of nukes and resources and the other doesn't.

Ukraine is what Russia would be like without oil

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>>77224424
nah, Belarus is secret place where most beautiful slav qts live because they are least racemixed of all

but in the end, they are all just Rus slavs, i have no clue why those 3 countries exist, i will just guess that some people wanted power and used nationalism to separate into 3 entities, correct me if wrong

>>77224333
ukraine is poorer, smaller, has fewer people, weaker army and better climate and soil

russia is more fascist and has more perfidious foreign policy

the are both suffering from post-communism, corruption, disillusionment, poverty and moral degradation they try to cover up with hypocrisy

>>77224333
Ukraine has historical problems with sovereigntyю

>>77224466
All danes can speak English. Does that mean they are brits?

Russians as people are slightly more melancholic I guess

>>77224485
thats poland
russia without gas/oil is literally poland by GDP

I don't really care about Russia. I never been there and don't want to. They bring us only problems and manipulate naive old people. Yes we are look the same, but I don't really understand Russia and Russians and wish to my country have enough brains to stay the fuck away from them.

Muscovy > Novgorod > Kievan Rus

>>77225017
russia is cancer

>>77224466
QUADRUPLE DUBS

>>77225017
>shitposts in /rus/ daily
>I don't understand russians and don't care about it
Aware you of it or not you are part of our cultural bubble.

>>77225077
FUCK YEAH

>>77225048
By the power? Yes.
By the order? No. Novgorod > Kievan > Moscowian
Actually, moscowian rulers were fucking smart. Instead of fighting, they took mongolians princess as a wifes then took a tax preferences and army from the mongol rulers, conquered other Rus states and, after amassing their own strength, conquered the whole Golden Horde territories.

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>>77225501
Novgorod was majority Finno-ugric. After that it was mostly slavication of Russia

>>77225501
If somebody didn't unite all these principalities they would be conquered and assimilated by turkiks, germans, poles, swedes etc and Novgorod was too weak for that although people love republics and democracy so much now back then autoctratic rule was much more effective.

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>>77225254
Not really, unlike my friends I'm trying to stay away from Russian cultural sphere.

I once asked guys why the fuck they watching "On vam ne Dimon" if we don't even somehow connected with it.

>>77225630
>he tries
You fail miserably

>>77225604
Somebody has to be king, absolutely right.
>>77225589
Novgorod itself was slavic from the start. But then yes - they took a lot of finno-ugric lands. Actually, nothing impressive here. Most of the north/central parts of Rus/Russia is a motherland of finno-ugric tribes.
Also, izhorians, vesj (baltic finns) and merya (volgaic fins) were a part of Rurik's army as Nestor says in his chronicle.

>>77225657
Finns originate from Ural mountains. They were aliens there just like slavs.

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>>77225657
>Also, izhorians, vesj (baltic finns) and merya (volgaic fins) were a part of Rurik's army as Nestor says in his chronicle.

I know we fighting among each others. I think that's why Finland never came to nothing at the time.
That's why there's still pretty clear east-west divide in culture and even how people speak even today.

We're more or less related at least genetically :DDD Well north-western Russians at least. It's not like the slavs genocided them

>>77225739
We were in Russia before slavs

>>77224333
Salo?

>>77225657
By motherland i mean they were settled and living there. Not "came from".
>Finns originate from Ural mountains
Yes.

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>>77225650
nah

>>77225769
In some parts you were, in some not

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>>77225739
>>Finns originate from Ural mountains
And we left a trail like that behind. It's not like we teleported from urals to here

>>77225769
<3

>>77225809
You know Khvansky, you post in /rus/, you know about Dimon, etc. You are 100% in this bubble

>>77225867
I didn't mean you teleported. I meant you were invaders there just like slavs and later swedes.

>>77225867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5hnSkI8gyo

>>77225867


I don't think the ones living east are same way related to us than example Veps

They may have similar structured language and some common genetics but I would not call them "Finns"

дaйтe линк нa pyc+бeл+yкp или любoй дpyгoй pyccкoгoвopящих тpeд здecь, в /int/

>>77226074
ones living far east*

Related maybe but where can you pull the line

>>77226076
>>77224139

>>77226074
Baltic-Finns are Finns I would say. I wouldn't call people in perm or volga Finns, but Veps are pretty finnic.

It has a strong slavic accent. Vepsian language is actually almost the same as estonian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEdlDHWHsxo

>>77226174
Ужe caм в кaтaлoгe нaшeл, нo cпacибo :^)

>>77225769
If this map is correct, with regards to Jämtland, I have a few questions. How was a distinct ethnicity created, a peasant republic formed and the entire Finnic population removed, as well as all archeological evidence that they ever were there over the course of roughly 100 years over an area larger than Estonia?

>>77226199
i understood all of it

maybe i should learn russian

>>77226219
He cтoит

>>77226199
get out of there fasci*t scum


>>77226219
no you shouldn't

>>77226213
They were nomad nothing big organized government system. Notice that it includes samis and other more or less primitive people who were hunter gathereres at that time.
While in Estonia and gulf of Finland area there has been agriculture for few thousand years.

It's just a linguistic map, like they way swedes aren't related to pajeets even if they both speak indo-european language

>>77226199
Cpaть тaм бyдeшь, a, бaлтc фacчиcт? :^)

>>77226273
i wnna visit Ukraine and Belarus in future year tho

>>77226308
Paзyмeeтcя, кaк жe бeз этoгo

>>77226074
>finns
In the terms of current day, "finns" are suomi. And that's it.
But if we are talking about the ethnic classification - surprice, you're not the only finns on the planet. Not even the majority.

>>77226318
don't do it

>>77226344
Дa ты жe тиблa.

>>77226358
Дa, нo paзвe этo дeлaeт мeня мeнee хopoшeньким?

>>77226213

Jämtland was probably visited by Saami, maybe a few lived there permanently at some point. Of course, Swedes and Norwegians also visited it for thousands of years but permanent settlements failed.

>>77226354
why

>>77226379
B вapкpaфт игpaeшь? :^l

>>77226412
He, я жe нe кoпpoeд

>>77226433
Hy ты пиздeц.

>>77226403
just))))))

>>77225769
>Well north-western Russians at least
Yea, they literally finns.

>Russians (Northern)
>N Y-DNA haplogroup: 41.3%

More than Estonians (40.6%), lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_in_populations_of_Europe

>>77226350
My point was Nenets Mansi etc. possibly can't be called our relatives as like the Karelians were

>>77226476
Я eщe и гeй пaccивный (бeз cтёбa)

>>77226379
Дaвaй дpyжить!

>>77226301
Yeah, I understand that but it just baffels me that everyone seems to think that its some sort of obvious fact that even a noticeable area of Jämtland was populated by Samis before we arrived when I have never seen any evidence of it. I don't doubt that it is the case further north since Sweden made an effort to settle it at a later point in time but that has never been the case with Jämtland to my knowledge.

>>77226536
Дaвaй

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Russia can produce quality memes. Ukraine can't

>>77226384
Fair enough

>>77226518
A я знaю. Mы oбщaлиcь. Пocлeдний дeнь poждeния ты, к пpимepy, пpoвeл в тecнoм кpyгy c бaтeй. И пoдapoк тeбe нe пoнpaвилcя.

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>>77226536
>>77226518
You guys are fucking gay, you know that?

>>77226621
Oгo, a я и нe дyмaл, чтo мeня тyт eщe ктo-тo пoмнит.. Mб вce тaки yчeткaми вбыдлятнe oбмeняeмcя или хoтя бы мылaми?

>>77226663
Пpoщe cкaйп выдaть. tehkutteh - дoбaвляйcя.

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>>77226646

>>77226685
Mнe пpoщe диcкopт, нy лaднo

> nazi anime gay dating site
amazing

>>77225017
you are here since a long time and i don't know who you are

>>77224333
>What's the difference between Russia and the Ukraine?

I hate Ukrainians because they hate Finno-ugrics. Ukrainians call Russians "Finno-ugrics horde" they think that they humiliate the Russians.

>>77226583
Кaкoгo цвeтa y тeбя глaзa?

>>77226862
He's Russian girl from Lugansk and she thinks that she is Ukrainian

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>>77226958
*She

Dyad'ko Yar is girl

>>77226797
Kiк.

>>77226988

Russian male(girl)

>>77225867
Remove Nganasan, Nenets, Selkup, Enets
Add Vod and Izhora (Inkeri)
If map historical, add Merya, Meshchera, Muroma

>>77226958
>she
that's explain why i don't understand what she says half the time

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>>77227000

>>77226862
i'm a cute girl

>>77224333
One is nazi, other is the Ukraine

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>>77227030
It's a language map. Those are still uralic languages, those you mentioned are dead languages

>>77227030
>Nganasan
They're pure finno-ugric ppl:

N1 -- 92%

>>77227124

WTF I hate Hungarians now

>>77227124
Vod and Izhora not dead yet. Not more than Liv at least

>>77227090
post feet, i'll give you french passport

>>77227124
>Ob-ugrian tribesman

My ancestor :)

>>77227136

They have N1b not N1c.

It's like R1b vs R1a, are the Basques the real Slavs?

>>77227169
I'm not sure people are interested in nowadays France.

>>77227169
that doesnt work anymore kek

>>77224333
Ukraine is poorer, whiter and more religious than Russia. Basically the redneck version of Russia

>>77227191
>tfw no loli mari gf to khan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OR-LoJcxeg

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>>77227169
do you like them? :з

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Ukraine is the Africa of Europe

>>77227355
Strange Mari language has very much Ш-consonant (sh)

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>>77227488

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>>77227355
Mordva (Erzya) >>>>>> Mari

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>>77227515

!>>77227360

hot

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>>77227353
lol
Only Moscow and St Petersburg look okay. The other parts of Russia are Nigeria tier third world shitholes. I can clearly see the differences between border of Belarus and Russia from the start.
Average Ukraine also looks much better.

>>77227355
>tfw i discover this in 2015 on /int/

>>77227500

Proto-Finnic had lots of it.
This is reconstructed Proto-Uralic.

Tälwa-päjwa wolij, shingiri jukan pexlina kanij. Njuksji shingiring tulij, juptaj: "Mim näkikim? Soma onsja! Tin min'ng wilawikit, sen müngana sewiwikit." Shingiri njuksjim pelij. Woxjimakta njuksjim kêrwatak, seng juptaj: "Ela min'm sewik, sjüdji-sjilma, sërnja-puna! Min'm jo sewik, se täwiksi e woxji tulitak. Kuxlik; tin'ng somam njomamam juptakim - ena kalat sin'ng njomawit. Mukanani kanik!" Njuksji mujaj, shingirin mukana jukan sjudja-üling menij. "Angi sjudjang têkik, ponchimti wêting lükkak", shingiri juptaj, "ponchin kalaj njomak!" Njuksji têkij, mim shingiri juptaj. Ponchimsa wêtin lükkaj, wëlkaj. Sjansjaj, sjansjaj, pilmita saxij – kalaj njomawimakta. "Tä ej wolima soma têkima!" njuksji juptaj. "Somampa shingirim sewitak!" Kälapanansak se kuntaj: ponchi wolij pintama sjudjang. Woxjimakta shingirin jälking kulkitak njuksji juptaj: "Shôngi wêjxikasa! Kôratama min, shingirin juptamaj iskima!"

>>77227360
>pic

Ukrainians aren't Slavs.

>>77227531
She looks like the average Russian
>>77227500
I think we all do. I thought she was singing Russian when hearling that the first time :DDD

We have ts instead of ch I think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQtvjGmgFkU

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>>77227541

>>77224333
"ukraine is russia without oil" cit.

>>77227623
>She looks like the average Russian
What does it mean, how do you think? :^)

>>77227614
go buy some viagra blondie

>>77227630
>100

That's what happens when you import niggers and maghrebis en masse

(as for the brits, that's what happens when you import superior Indians, greek geniuses and bro-tier sikhs)

>>77227582
Batkaland is larping as sustainable economy using Russian money , key

>>77227667
she looks like the stereotypical Russian. Not really a fingol
Looks better than most girls here

>>77227582
Top kek
The only places in Ukraine that are not rural 3rd world shitholes are the Russian-speaking southern/eastern Oblasts like Odessa and Donetsk

>>77227735
it's true, even if you don't like it

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>>77227707
Yeah, your dwarf dictator give money for friendship like in Oblivion's persuasion minigame.

>>77227712
>Not really a fingol
Mate. Finns from Finland are basically 1/20+ of fingol tribes.

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>>77227630

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>>77227735
>Donetsk
>not rural 3rd world shitholes
Um.

>>77227623
>I think we all do
No. Finnish/Estonian language for Russian ears does not have as much Ш-consonant as Mari.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0FVQKw_qAM

In the Mari language it is used very often. Unlike other Finno-Ugric languages which I heard.

One has Crimea, the other one doesnt

>>77224333
Russians say G, Hohols say H.

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>>77227712
>fingol
Siberians girls often looks like fingols. With pale hair and mongoloid eyes

>>77227918
:^)

>>77227900
Does Finnish and Estonian sound that similar? ebin
>>77227968
Yeah she looks more like a finnish girl, well obviously not all, but if i would have to say an average girl would be something like that

>>77225017
I don't really care about the Borderland. I never been there and don't want to. They bring us only problems and manipulate naive old people. Yes we are look the same, but I don't really understand the Borderland and borderlanders and wish to my country have enough brains to stay the fuck away from them.

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>>77227882
Donetsk has the highest urbanisation rate in Ukraine (90%) and outstandingly high salaries

>>77228060
It's soviet heritage. But the people who live in Donetsk are literally subhumans.

>>77228004
Estonian btw is very similar to the Vepsian language

>>77228060

>outstandingly high salaries

The shit I put in the toilet every morning is worth more than the GDP of Donbass

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>>77228004
forgot the pic maybe something like this, but yeah the eyes are slightly mongol

A grill from tinder i fugged :DDDD

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>>77228242
mongol ppl are disgusting

>>77228209

No more than it is to Finnish.

>>77228004
>Yeah she looks more like a finnish girl
Fingol from Finland: https://youtu.be/z0piL_tY_yo
Fingol from Udmurtia: https://youtu.be/OlZKu-gtooY
Fingol from Siberia: https://youtu.be/MMRTs-JMAz4

I do not see a fundamental difference between all them

>>77228350
Finnland girl have autism.

>>77228350
Only the fingol speaks english :DDD that's the difference
>>77228377
because she speaks english who wouldn't be autist

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>>77228272
Slav ppl are disgusting.

Fingols are hot and cute

>>77228350

Finnish girl is from west

She has haplogroup I1

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>>77224493
>but in the end, they are all just Rus slavs, i have no clue why those 3 countries exist, i will just guess that some people wanted power and used nationalism to separate into 3 entities, correct me if wrong
Rus was never been a real state or country. It was a unification of the Slavic (and Baltic) tribes.
Belarus and Ukraine had a big common history, but Russia was always a rival figure.

>>77228394
Finnish accent in English is funny

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>>77228400
shes slav too..

we have fair share of chink looking people, somehow they are always blonde hmm

>>77228216
Compared to the rest of Ukraine dumbass

>>77228453
Why is she so much like an udmurt grill?

inb4: mämmi'd

>>77228453
>She has haplogroup I1
She doesn't have any y-haplogroup since she's a woman.
It's only a male lineage

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>>77228491
>chink looking people
Finno-Ugric genes make the Slavs more attractive.

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We're mongols alright

>>77228350
Fingol from Siberia/Altai Republic almost goddess

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>>77228649
Well girls might have some added charm with those slant eyes, but guys just look bad.

we should maybe genocide all finns and try to bleach our girls

>>77228709
>but guys just look bad
Im getero caz i live in Russia

>>77228786
>marry finn-slav girl
>have small khan son

wtf...

>>77225867
*teleports all over the fucking place*
Pssssh... nothing personnel... kid...

>>77228803
>small khan son
It's so cute

>>77228709
Your Pan-Slavism threatens the Finno-Ugric ppl in Russia :(

>>77224333
The Russian is naturally evil, only seeking to oppress, or when confronted by someone stronger than himself, to serve.
The Ukrainian on the other hand cares only for simple joys of life, bravely striving to stand tall in the sun, free from those who have oppressed him for centuries.

>>77227882
Donetsk is a good city (for our standarts) but oblast is.

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>>77228903
They're already russians now
We tried to save them