>this confuses and enrages the european

*insect sounds*

i have noticed that its mostly americans who think we have something like a competition going on
you american shitskins also think of europe as one country

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>this terrifies the american

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>>77190274
>american city planning

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>the american loses sleep over this

i could see this being some wacky 90s electronic album cover

> no trees

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>>77190438

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>>77190526

>>77190622
>no hills

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>>77190274
> that uniformity
C'EST LA LUTTE FINALE
GROUPONS-NOUS, ET DEMAIN
L'INTERNATIONALE
SERA LE GENRE HUMAIN

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>>77190622
>tfw my hometown could fit in like one pixel of this picture

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>>77190274
congratulations for looking like somalia, I guess

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>>77191410
You have more space though

>>77190274
I just find it a bit boring. A bit like Brutalist architecture, efficient but lacking in soul.

why does sven know what somalia looks like

>>77190274
That looks incredibly boring.

>>77191596
Maybe Sven isn't a cancerous teenager and know how to use a search engine. Just a thought.

>>77191557
Yeah and for me it feels cramped even in our cities that barely reach "town" tier in america. I imagine if you're dropped in the middle of new york city you wouldn't even be able to leave by foot because it just goes on and on and on. We also don't have real skylines, just like 1 or 2 tall buildings per "city".

>>77191641
alri apex

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>>77191619

americans WILL defend this

>>77190438
Any non-traditional "roundabouts" are stupid and go agains the whole basic idea of roundabouts.

>>77191645
You don't have poor areas full of tower blocks in Sweden? Funny thing in France is that most of our cities' skyline is from tower blocks housing poor people.

>>77191801
Oh there are a lot of commie block quarantines, but they don't build them skyscraper tall which is what I think of when I think skylines. I live in Malmö and the tallest building is 190 meters which is the tallest in sweden, and it's located in an area where all other buildings are short, which makes it good as a landmark.

>>77191910
We have a lot of commieblocks between 15 and 30 stories high. I'm not sure at which height they would be considered skyscraper tier though.

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>>77191645
you sound like you want our cities to be full of glass dildos. you'll probably be happy in a few years, because there is a lot of glass dildos being planned atm.

>>77191801
we have a lot of planned neighbourhoods in sweden. there are some social problems in some of them, but I wouldn't call them "poor areas". they're low-income areas, but we don't have the same sort of poverty as in other countries.

also, even though we have a lot of planned neighbourhoods, actual gommie towers are pretty rare. houses with 3 to 4 floors are far more common.

pic related is a very typical 50's era planned neighbourhood in sweden. note that it's much greener irl, because they also planted lots of greenery that hadn't grown yet when the pic was taken.

>>77191974
According to wikipedia a skyscraper should have 40-50 floors. Which would make it pretty tall, but i don't know if there actually is an "official" definition.
>>77192055
I don't want us to have that, I was just saying that our lack of such buildings make cities like new york look weird and exotic to me.

>this confuses and angers the American
>"Wait, you can't drive in there? What am I supposed to do, walk?"
>"Wait, what is this street, help, I'm lost"

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>>77192055
Oh yeah when I say poor I mean low income. Even in France I wouldn't call the people living in these areas poor when the unemployed get 500+ euros a month, free healthcare and rent as well as other benefits like free access to public transport. But France does seem to have a thing for tower blocks even though they seem to hate having city centre skylines, I live in a city of 250 000 people yet it has a huge amount of tower blocks, pic related is just one of the many areas here full of them.

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>>77192135

>>77192133
Oh then most of our buildings that look like skyscrapers probably don't even count then.

>>77192276
Yeah the burgers have towers 2-3 times as tall as ours which I think is pretty cool. But at least we win in the historical department, before they plow it all down to build more commieblocks and modern shit.

>>77192405
They do look cool at night. During the day I find them a bit boring though, although they do generally look better than Asian skylines.

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>>77192205
I'm generally pretty fond of modernist architecture and city planning, but the area in your pic looks pretty depressing.

pic related is where I live. it's considered large-scale by swedish standards.

originally, it was mostly for middle class, although there were some low-income flats as well. today, most families here are low-income (including my family). we don't have any social problems, though. crime is almost non-existant. there was some rumour that someone got mugged a few years back, but that's it.

I really like it here. the elevated causeways next to the parking lots are really comfy to take strolls along, and there's a lot of nice greenery here.

a lot of trees have been planted on the mountain behind the blocks, so it's basically a big lush park where you can walk your dog, go barbequeing, etc.

>>77191619
lol

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>>77190378
Comfy roads are the best roads.

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>this confuses and enrages the american
>"whaddayall mean I can't take a single piss easy license test in my mom's Ford Focus at age 16 and afterwards drive whatever the damn hell I want"

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>>77190378
>dette forvirrer dansken

>>77190274
enjoy your stop signs everywhere

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Do Americans recruit their city planners from Cities Skylines forums?

>>77193136
>play cities skylines
>"im going to build Stockholm 2.0"
>end up autistically drawing grids
i hate that game

>>77193136
Are german big cities so much different than american ones tho?

>>77193136
Imagine that but with water instead of roads. That would be pretty cool.

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>>77193206
You mean Florida?

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this confuses and enrages americans

>>77193259
That must be hell though during mosquito season.

>>77193295
The fucking satellite dishes ruin it.

>not banning satellite dishes in the historic center and making sure people have access to decent cable instead

>>77193334
every day is mosquito season because the temperature never drops below 15 year round

>>77191484
Isn't that what you're striving for, too?

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>>77192213
>not having your cities planned for military intervention

>>77190274
Tbh this looks pretty depressing. Like wherever you'd go it's just more of the same for kilometers.

>>77193546
Lol, Soviets planned cities this way. All eastern euro cities have large, wide highways so the Soviet army could get to the front fast while USSR cities don't have them in case the enemy got that close.

>>77190438
They installed one in my small town and accidents doubled the next year

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>>77191484
can't let you get away with this one

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>>77191619
you are a little baby. this is 7 miles apart in florida. They are backyard neighbors

>>77191619
walk then

>>77190274
Wow enlarged motherboards so impressive.

>>77193334

I can attest that the canal my relatives live on does not have mosquitoes as an issue

also you can capture crabs right from the backyard, which is really cool

>>77193042
jeg keka

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>>77197425
How retarded do you have to be to not understand how roundabouts work?

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*blocks your path to McDonald*

>>77190438
Imagine how much of a clusterfuck it would become if even one crosswalk gets blocked.

>>77197762
All the people who wanted to take the 3rd exit went against traffic to save time.
Dog bless

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>this triggers the american

>>77197762
It's probably the first time anyone there has seen one. My mom works for the city and she said there were daily complaints by all the old farmers who don't like change

>>77197817

not big city dwellers Tbh

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>>77193546
Yours isn't even a fort.

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>>77197817
>public transport is free in Estonia
>So is college and healthcare

THIS truelly triggers the american

>>77197817
the bus is very popular where I live because everyone has too many drink driving convictions

>>77197960
IT's not free it's paid from your taxes.
Should've said "publicly funded". It equally triggers the american while not being a lie.

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>>77197908
Nigga do you even star fort?

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>this enrages the brit

>>77198009
The one I posted is actually the biggest star fort in the world. Built by a Dutch, of course.

We just don't have water, so we just dig a deeper hole.

Pretty good against Sp*niard and Fr*nch invasions.

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>>77198062
I suppose water is detrimental for a good defense so I understand the need for compensation. We did a decent job repelling the Fr*nch and Sp*niards by just flooding a shitton of land. All hail the sea jews!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollandic_Water_Line

>>77198222
I'd go as far as to say that having water makes it even harder to attack. We'd use water if we could, but the best place to attack Portugal through is dry as fuck so its just not an option.

>>77197990
Employer pays social taxes not employee here

>>77198255
Absolutely no difference whatsoever, employer pays to the government what he could
>keep for himself
>share between the two of you
>give entirety to you

>>77191645
>new york metropolitan population is 2x the amount of people in Sweden

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>This image holds more people than some European countries

>>77197990
wtf i hate taxes now, why did nobody tell me how they truly work??

>>77198599
Well, enjoy your Judge Dredd fantasies coming true then.

cars were a mistake

>>77198660
they're planning a section of my city without cars, very hyped.

>>77197817

I use it everyday and I am the only white person who does.

>>77198640
>crime
>toyko
that only happens in countries with barbaric whites and blacks

>>77197960
>free

>>77198751
everybody knows how taxes work you fucking autist

>>77198769
apparently not

>>77198751
Instead of paying a few dollars when you get on, you pay a few cents in taxes you mong.

>>77193407
You shouldn't be talking

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>>77198791
>things you exchange money for
>free

>>77198354

This

>>77198791
>Instead of paying a few dollars when you get on, you pay a few cents in taxes you mong.
do you unironically think this is true?

>>77198848
Yes, because the taxes are collected from everyone including rich people who never use public transport.

>>77198881

Why should people be forced to pay for something they don't use?

>>77198895
because it makes society a better place you spastic

>>77198907

>give me your money because it will make my life better

>>77198881
we were talking about healthcare and college, not just public transport. And why the fuck should I subsidize the cattle carriages poor people use to get to work at Burger King with my own money?

>>77198895
Because rich fucks can give something back to the society that made them rich instead of hoarding it where it sits there and does nothing.

>>77198940
>the society that made them rich
lol good one
now here's how Bernie can still win

>>77198935
You are one of the poor commoners you spastic, why god cursed me to live in a country where retards think they're the rich I'll never know.

>be ameriKKKan
>get shoot
haha

>>77198935

>college taxation

Why the fuck should I pay for some 18 year old girl to go to Ohio State University just so she can get BLACKED for 4 years

>>77190274
>being proud of a city

>>77198972
why are you projecting? I'm an adult who owns his own car and pays for his own gas to get to my job to earn my money. Hands off.

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>>77198940

>he doesn't know Bernie is a hypocritical cuck

>yet another "americans hating poor people" thread
lmao, never fails

>>77198929
I see no problem here.

>>77199017
Huh that's funny because Bernie wasn't a part of this discussion at all.

>>77198999
Because you live in burgerland where everything requires you to drive a car and public transport is useless. For euros though it makes sense.
>>77199017
Never even mentioned Bernie you stupid fuck. You people seem much more obsessed with him than anyone else.

>>77190274
its really a inefficient system
you basically need a car to get anywhere in a town like this

>>77199027

Get out socialist

>>77198255
Do you even microeconomics

>>77198983
Because you'll be jacking off to her having sex with strong, muscular black men at frat parties

>>77198935
>And why the fuck should I subsidize the cattle carriages poor people use to get to work at Burger King with my own money?
Because reliable and reaching public transport means less cars on the road which results in lesser traffic which means you can drive your richfuck coach to your job to pay for your richfuck coach quicker.

Same for bikepaths.
Why do americans hate poor people?

>>77199026

It's not "hating poor people". It's people who work there asses off to be successful in life, but in the end the get fucked by having to pay for people who don't give a shit about their own lives.

I shouldn't have to pay into the welfare for some guy who chose to drop out of high school. Knocked up 3 girls, and has worked making shit wage at Burger King for 20 years. That was HIS choice. Why should I have support his shit ass? Everyone here has the same basic opportunities. Those who choose to not use it, that's their fault.

>>77199098

Major cities do have public transport (bus, metro, tram). But the far majority of people in the US and Canada live in suburbs. It would be a massive pain in the ass to try to coordinate bus routes. Infact, it wouldn't even work. Because many people live far from where they work. Where I live, most people drive an hour to work everyday.

>>77199098
having public transport isn't the same thing as holding a gun to people's heads to force them to pay for other people's commutes.

>>77199152
Yeah, it's precisely hating poor people.
You basically decided that society should abandon a group of people because they made shitty decisions so they have no choice but to go from shitty decisions to shitty decisions for the rest of their lives.

Same for your healthcare. You took the worst bits of publicly funded healthare and combined the worst bits of muh ancap healthcare and called it yours.
It's not designed about making your life and life of other people better but around fucking with the poor.
Why do you hate poor people?

>Everyone here has the same basic opportunities.
Haha yes absolutely, exactly the reason why despite being 1% of the population Kikes make up 80% of your Congress and 100% of the media. Theyre just "better at the same basic opportunities"

>>77199221
>having public transport isn't the same thing as holding a gun to people's heads to force them to pay for other people's commutes.
>Using a molymeme unironically
lmao, this faggot's serious

>>77199211
>It would be a massive pain in the ass to try to coordinate bus routes.
I hope you're aware public transport works just fine if you don't have a busstop right in front of your driveway. You can just walk to the bus stop.

>>77199236

>you basically decided that society should abandon a group of people because they made shitty decisions so they have no choice but to go from shitty decisions to shitty decisions for the rest of their lives

So, people shouldn't accept the concequences of their actions? Everyone is a winner, right?

>>77197500

used to live there. pretty good bass fishing in those ponds.

>>77199152
do you not see benefits of a society with less inequalities?

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>>77190274

>>77199276
>So, people shouldn't accept the concequences of their actions?
don't you think their lives as theyre are already is a punishment enough?

Dropped out of highschool, alimonies for three women and forever stuck at dead end job as you just described. His choice, his mistakes for which he's already paying.

But fuck poor peoeple amirite xd

>>77199082
Nice meme
Bernie isn't socialist and you know it. You just want an excuse to be asshurt.
Thanks for the (You.)

America seems like it could use some mixed-use development

>>77199283

A "utopia" would be cool. But that's not realistic. It's wrong to go to a man and say "hey, you've worked really really hard your entire life and have made yourself very successful. But, I'm going to need to take extra money from you every month, because this fellow over here can't pass a drug test and get a job. So he needs money for his rent"

Fuck that. Now, there are people out there who end up in shitty situations involuntary (such as their company going out of business and getting laid off). People like that, I can understand them getting some assistance. But the far majority of people on the welfare system in the US are abusing the fuck out of it. People that literally don't care about their own lives and piss it away. They don't deserve a single cent

>>77199385
It really could. Please help us.

>>77198895
>>77198935
Taxes, subsidies, public services, etc. are innefficient. FACT.

But it is beneficial for tax payers to pay for these services. A higher educated population is beneficial for a country in the long run and the benefit for corporations (who is naturally antagonized by taxes and the like) is that they will have more access to a pool of skilled labour; also unskilled labour is at huge risk of becoming automated, so it's the perfect time to breed a generation of engineers, technicians, doctors, scientist, and programmers who will work in developing and improving automation and selling this technology to other countries.

A healthy population is beneficial for a country in the long run and corporations can benefit from their unskilled labour, for whom money is invested into training, from dieing or losing too many days of work.

And lastly, a content population is beneficial for a country. I don't think I really need to argue for that one, if the population is unhappy they'll destroy parts of the country (like riots and shit), or they'll destroy the state i.e. revolution (which is how america was created).

>>77199339

Why should I have to suffer from how he chose to live his life?

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How do you find your house in those suburb ?
All the roads look the same and all the house look the same

>>77199432
just listen to siri

>>77199431
Is suffering so your government can afford to wage wars on the other side of the planet for Israel a better alternative to suffering for a possibility to help a fellow human being born in the same country as you?
Cause I don't fucking think so.

>>77199432

you don't, you get into the first house you see and fuck the women you'll find inside it.

>>77199474
Or we could just not suffer

>>77199152
Here we see the eternal American jew, content with his overpriced health care and pathetic "cities"

>>77199432

Street signs, until you just memorize where your house is. After a while, you get used to seeing the same cars infront of peoples houses and outdoor furniture/decorations.

>>77199407
i'm not talking about some socialist utopia, i'm taking about basic social security that would allow you to narrow the gap between the poorest and the rest of the country, which in turn could help with other issues, like rampant city crime and high murder rates

>>77199522
crime rate and murder rate has nothing to do with poverty, only % of people that are black

>>77199474

Do you volutenteer your free time at shelters?

>>77199510

Nah I like cities. Just don't go to the south side ;)

>>77199553
How many % of people are black in Russia?

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>this confuses the american

>>77199553
>Huge swathes of black communities and rural fags that have been historically poor and continue to be incredibly poor is not a problem

>>77197960
Thank you EU for redistributing Germany's money to ex-USSR shitholes.

>>77199576
almost all of them, they're slavs

>>77199567
>Do you volutenteer your free time at shelters?
I did volunteer work at an A&E department and in an ambulance crew for entire 5 years of my education before I started working professionally.

>Be American
>Literally nowhere is walk-able from your house
>If you walk for more than a block outside of a CBD you get stopped by the cops
>Every time you go out there has to be a designated driver since it is literally impossible to go anywhere without a car

America is a fucking nightmare, imagine not being able to just stroll down to your local and knock back a few pints with the lads because your nearest bar is in another county.

>>77199626
>magine not being able to just stroll down to your local and knock back a few pints with the lads because your nearest bar is in another county.
Or not being able to out drinking without planning and just leaving your car parked and taking a bus home

>>77199588
>rural fags that have been historically poor
what? rural america is why we're rich, our cities are shit

>this Kremlinbot with a Poland proxy

>>77199626
>If you walk for more than a block outside of a CBD you get stopped by the cops
I've lived here for 12 years and have never been stopped by a cop, I've never even talked to one

>>77199699
>>77199626
and I've never owned a car

>>77199624

Well good for you. At least you have done some community service

>>77199626

It has its ups and downs.

It's nice in a way because the housing is all newer and there is generally much more space. The suburbs are quiet too. Also, they are cheaper than living in a flat in the city.

The shitty part is like you said. We have to drive literally everywhere

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>>77195216
It's interesting to consider why North Korea has these huge multilane highways with no cars on them...

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>>77199667
>everyone that doesn't agree with me must be paid for by political enemies of my country!!!11
mind of a /pol/edditor must be a sickening place

>>77199407
>Fuck that. Now, there are people out there who end up in shitty situations involuntary (such as their company going out of business and getting laid off). People like that, I can understand them getting some assistance. But the far majority of people on the welfare system in the US are abusing the fuck out of it.

Example: Stupid baby boomers who didn't save for retirement and think Social Security will bail them out, when all it's intended to do is be just enough money to keep you from starving.

The government can't save you in the end, you have to save yourself.

>>77199667
It's not a Kremlinbot, it's a guy whose grandparents used to work for the PWP.

>>77199650
Ate you retarded? Look at the state of West Virginia and other mostly rural states. They have the largest federal aid imbalances, lowest gdp and worst state benefits

Public transportation is only viable in urban areas like NYC anyway.

>>77199906
Nobody cares about poverty in West Virginia, they only worry about urban poverty for various and sundry reasons.

>>77199648

In a lot of situations it's just not realistic. People would still drive because the buses would take longer than driving. It's just the way things are designed here. It's not like there is 1 city center and suburbs scattered around it. In some areas, it's just massive metropolitan areas with suburbs scattered around and inside that. So as far as bus routes, it would be a nightmare to make bus routes that cover every general location. And if one suburb is 15-20km from the mall/shopping center. it would be far more efficient to just drive a car

>>77199863
^This. The government doesn't "owe" you anything other than the protection of the law and a minimal social safety net. That's it.

>>77198599
And in a more orderly and efficient fashion than any American city ever could. Los Angeles holds a third of Tokyo's population in the same area and it's already a clogged, smogged hellhole.

>>77199906

A lot of that is their own faults. Coal is a dying industry. Coal is one of WV's biggest job sectors. However people there don't want to retrain into different fields. The government under Obama even had programs to retrain coal workers into different fields and people still chose to not do it. That's their own doing.

>>77199863

Exactly

>>77199982
Which is why Ive given up hope on America every getting it's head out of it's ass when it comes to urban planning. Were just beyond pants on head retarded. It needs to just be completely flattened and started over from scratch in order to fix it.

>>77200021
>Los Angeles holds a third of Tokyo's population in the same area and it's already a clogged, smogged hellhole
That's because Japanese are carpenter ants instead of people.

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>>77200074
>indirectly implying that Californians are people if Japanese aren't, or that Californians are better people than Japanese

>>77200057
>However people there don't want to retrain into different fields. The government under Obama even had programs to retrain coal workers into different fields and people still chose to not do it

Can't retrain people for jobs that don't exist in WV. What good does it do you to train everyone to be a web designer or some shit when Google is based in California?

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>>77200131
t. I get all my information about California from 4chan

>>77190438
what the FUCK

>>77200066
Urban planning like you speak of would have to assume we live in some place like Sweden with a high degree of ordnung in their culture.

>>77200066

The thing though that makes the biggest impact is cost of living. where I live, MOST people do not live near where they work. Most people work in or close to Washington DC. But the cost of living in DC is really fucking high because they know the demand is high (because people want to live close to work). But because it's so expensive, it's very common for people to drive 1 hour each way to and from work. You might work in Arlington, Virginia. But you probably live in Winchester, VA which is 70 miles away because the cost of living is much cheaper there. And with your nice salary you got from working a big job near D.C. You can afford a big brand new house, land, nice car, and fun things. Most people choose this

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>be proud american
>doesn't want to help out fellow americans

>>77200136

Wind energy was one of the big pushes out there. But WV was like "but imma coal miner. I don't know wind"

>>77190622
>a bunch of high rises surrounded by endless suburbs
are all American cities like that?

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>>77200066

>>77200074
>implying Tokyo is not a clogged hellhole
Have you fucking been to Tokyo? They cram stores and cafes in alleys where westerners usually have dumpsters or power junctions or other out-of-the-way shit. Rent per square foot/meter/football field/whatever is like triple that of a generic western comfy suburb and for that amount you get to hear 50 neighbors worth of farting on a daily basis because personal space barely exists even within your own goddamn apartment.

>>77200207
>>77200242
I've looked into this extensively an the main thing is the legal bullshit with construction. There are so many laws requiring certain amount of space, or minimum plot sizes, minimum parking etc. All this forces you to build spaced out autocentric shitholes.

But these laws never change because they're controlled by local governments which are ruled by people who have no idea about urban planning and they never want to change.

>>77200278
Wind energy is a massive scam anyway and wind turbines kill birds and other flying wildlife.

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>>77200273
These cities are comfy as fuck

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>this causes a feeling of emptiness in life for americans

>>77200273

You know why this is a heated issue?

Because when people say this is the land of opportunity. It honestly is. But ONLY if you actually take advantages of the opprotunties that are given. If you want to be successful, you must work hard for it. So it pisses a lot of people off, who actually took advantage of what was offered to them and really made something with their lives, when the people who chose to piss their lives away cry and bitch that the government needs to help them.

You are what you decide to be. I decided to pursue a career I'm passionate about. I've been busting my ass for several years working on my own toward this goal, and I'm about to make it there. So it's bullshit to see people who had the same opportunities I had just piss it away and then complain

>>77200400
You can always go to New Jersey if you like roundabouts and not being allowed to pump your own gas and a governor who weighs 600 pounds and has a 5% approval rating.

>>77200379
It's not a scam, but the whole idea of it replacing fossil fuels for our energy needs that gets memed by marketing agencies is indeed a scam. Anything that produces more energy is beneficial.

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>>77200379
Yeah and besides they need to build these huge expensive loud-ass fans to create the wind in the first place

>>77200324

Most are

>>77200325
Sorry Australiabro, I'm also aware you guys had most of your development post ww2 like us and made meme autocentric cities.

>>77200452
But all lands are like that, numbskull. The only limit to any person is their own skill and ambition, and the skill and ambition of their rivals.

>>77200324
Yes, bar a tiny amount of some east coast towns. Though they too are probably surrounded by newer suburban development.

>>77200526

Is Canada's urban planning like ours too?

>>77200273
I don't mind helping people who deserve it. That does not include LeQweshia and her crack baby in Watts. Or someone on Tumblr who thinks my tax money should go to pay for them getting breast implants and their penis surgically removed.

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>>77192205
>Rennes
>huge amount of commieblocks
You should visit the rest of France frogbro, Rennes is one of the least commieblocked city of its size

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>>77200452
Wow nothing in your post were related to what I said. But enjoy your $13,000 hospital bills and no 4 week paid vacation a year I guess

>>77200558

Right. But I still don't see why I should feel sorry for someone who consciously chooses to be 30 years old and working at Burger King. The only person who put them there is themselves

>>77200593
The western part yes. Eastern Canada like Quebec and Newfoundland have more traditional style cities. Though outside the old parts they're probably surrounded by newer autocentric development.

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>this confuses and scares the european
why dont euros like their feet cold in the hot mornings?

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>br*ts will defend this

>>77200642
Once you're done enjoying having your tax money go to pay for Abdul and his 16 kids living on welfare in Copenhagen who grow up to become ISIS members.

>>77200642

I have health insurance, so I'll never pay that much for hospitalization. Also, I'm healthy. in 2 years I'll have a job making $80,000/yr starting, unlimited free airline tickets, 11 days off a month, and 2 weeks paid vacation a year. Those benefits and pay will just go up every year.

>>77200596
The point of welfare is to making it easier to get out of poverty so while you'll have to pay for LeQweshia and her crack baby, you prevent a new generation of LeQweshias. I don't think breast implants and penis is free

>>77200242
this is how it works here it's basically disgusting. It's actually worse than the US since all industry is concentrated into Toronto or Vancouver, while America has several large cities. The most you can get away from these cities are factories or universities, or shit retail jobs. Otherwise you have to live in a suburb (where the prices are similarily rising) and drive 2 hours through a traffic jam to get to work. It's awful.

>>77200526
a-at least it can't get worse right h-haha

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USA urban and suburban life revolves around cars because of Jews and their scheming.

Are you surprised?

>>77200709
Pretty sure Denmark has one of the strictest immigration policies in Europe, unless someone fucked something up in the past few years. Haven't been following the news that closely.

>>77200720
>The point of welfare is to making it easier to get out of poverty so while you'll have to pay for LeQweshia and her crack baby, you prevent a new generation of LeQweshias
This is a troll, right?
>I don't think breast implants and penis is free
I believe it's covered somewhere on page 468 of Obamacare, but only Nancy Pelosi would know for sure.

>>77200650
You don't have to be sorry for them, that doesn't mean you can't have empathy with other peoples living conditions and support the least amount for them to live in comfort.

Some people are fine with flipping burgers, I take no offense to the want of increasing the worth of their vocation though.

>>77200786

I think sex changes are also covered

Thanks Obama

>>77200709
Dumbass if you think we're like Sweden just because we are neighbour countries you are wrong. Abdul would've gotten welfare 10 years ago but not today
>>77200719
There's some catch there

>>77200709
>when someone from 56% white nation pretend Sweden is the nightmare scenario
rich

>>77200786
I'm not trolling, we don't put people in prisons just to punish them. There's a purpose to all

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>>77200836
Well at least the US hasn't lost any cities to the minor-

Oh. Right.

>>77200805

Ok, so maybe he does like flipping burgers. So why doesnt he try to advance in the Burger industry? Work his way through management. Hell, open up his own restaurant or even franchise. There is money to be made, and benefits to be earned. But they have to work for it. I don't believe in handouts to people that don't really deserve it.

the bottom of the line jobs at fast food restaurants are meant for high schoolers. If you're 30 years old and working there, a light bulb should light up in your head and say "you know, I don't fit here. I need to wake up and pull my life together"

>>77200958
That's the end result of 54 years of Democrat mayors.

>>77193042
fuck me, that's pretty

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b braise the flag

>>77200786
>This is a troll, right?
How the fuck is this a troll?
What's the point of throwing someone in jail for a crime he committed, abusing him for 10 years only for him to become a recidivist once he goes free?
What the fuck do you, him or society gain from having him kept and well fed for 10 years?

>>77200959
>the bottom of the line jobs at fast food restaurants are meant for high schoolers
And sometimes retired old people who get bored and want to earn some extra money.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/03/27/94-year-old-woman-honored-for-44-years-working-at-mcdonalds/

>>77200828

>there's some catch there

There isn't. It's just called I worked hard in my life to set myself up for a good job. I have a mentor that I talk with a lot, I'm following same career path as him. He's been in the industry for 30 years, and he makes $250,000/yr. huge house, just installed a brand new heated salt water swimming pool in his back yard, he has multiple cars, he owns land. Just living life.

It's not like he was just given all of those things. He busted his ass and worked hard. Just like I'm doing. But if you put in the effort, you can be very successful here

>>77200976
No, that's the end result american elites being greedy fucks and outsourcing work from americans just to keep their profit margins high.

>>77201040
Stop selling crack and robbing the corner liquor store if you don't want to go to jail.

>>77193546
You mean military occupation.

>>77201097
Way to miss the point you dumb fuck.

>>77201093
Wrong. It was retarded anti-business Democrat leftist policies that made it non-profitable to manufacture in this country.

>>77201061

Right, but I wasn't talking about them. They have retirement so they don't need that job.

I remember I used to work at Sears doing Loss Prevention. We had a guy apply for a $8/hr job catching shoplifters. The guy had been a special agent and counter terrorism investigator with the FBI for 40 years. He had great retirement pay, but he was just bored and wanted something to do to burn time.

>>77200959
Maybe he wants to be a burger flipper and not a desk manager, some people just don't have the ambition to deal with the pressures of a position of higher prestige.

I'm not really going to discuss "deserve" and "meant for highschoolers" that's something each of us have different opinions on.

If they like flipping burgers but beleive they should be paid better for the job they're doing, then I take no offense to that point of view.

>>77200976
Windsor is the end result of 300 years of democracy and it's literally on the other side of the fucking river and doing 500 gorillion times better than Detroit.

>>77201071
Tell me how a poor person with health problems is going to be 'very successful' in America?
Don't deny having public funded education and getting paid by the government each month for studying would've made it a lot easier for everyone to get an education.

>>77201219
>and getting paid by the government each month for studying

>write people a check to go to college
>they go and obtain a degree in transgender studies or applied feminism

>>77200242
This is only a test because American cities literally ban apartment blocks because NIMBYs hate development.

>>77200136
Clinton offered a $30 billion fund for WV, if she won. But "muh coal" jobs that dont exist won their hearts

If you're going to destroy a beautiful place, at least build something nice and pleasant to look at and live in, instead of this concrete nightmare that confuses and enrages me.

>>77201366
That's a problem of your universities not the system you fuckwit, so your argument is null

>>77201366
Subsidized college was a disaster, it led to the student loan crisis and a glut of unemployable gender studies majors.

When my dad was in college in the 1970s, before this happened, he paid for it with a summer job. Also he wasn't dumb enough to take out student loans; he knew some idiots who did and lived to regret it.

>>77201366
But people do that anyway.

Being paid to study doesn't condition people to study dumb topics, besides all the important schools always have full classes, there's no lack in those departments.

>>77201366
Never heard of such fooling degrees before

>>77201179

>If they like flipping burgers but beleive they should be paid better for the job they're doing, then I take no offense to that point of view

Why should they get paid more for a job that's not worth more than it already pays?

>>77201219

There are shit tons of people with medical problems that have become extremely successful here. There is a guy at work who had a weird arm and walks weird. He told me his parent neglected him as a kid. But he decided he wanted to make something with his life. Guess what, that guy's makes $100,000/yr and has outstanding benefits.

Hell, there is a syndicated columnist named Charles Krauthammer. Dude was a total Alpha when he was younger. He ended up getting into a serious accident and became permanently paralyzed. He still got into a Harvard and did all of his classes in just a few months from his hospital bed. He couldn't even physically turn pages of the books. So he had a screen placed above him with the books open. He'd read mutiple books at work and have the nurses turn the pages every 5 minutes. That dude is extremely successful in life. Because he worked for it

>>77201444
There we go. The thing you must understand is that social welfare in this country is mainly designed to purchase votes for the Democrat Party, it's not about actually helping people in need.

>>77201487
So they can live better lives. As I said.

American universities have their own fucking Police Force with bombsquads and shit and americans are baffled that their universities are expensive to maintain lol.

>>77201503
>The thing you must understand is that social welfare in this country is mainly designed to purchase votes for the Democrat Party, it's not about actually helping people in need.
The thing you should understand is that we're discussing social policies as a whole not your-particular-american-wicked-and-halfassed-implementation-of-social-policies-dicatated-by-agenda

>>77201487
>There is a guy at work who had a weird arm and walks weird. He told me his parent neglected him as a kid. But he decided he wanted to make something with his life. Guess what, that guy's makes $100,000/yr and has outstanding benefits.
nice bullshit anecdote

Try going to trade school or actually studying a useful subject. The only thing that degree in LGBT issues is going to get you is a career as a Starbucks barista. You can then sit and blame the Jews or the patriarchy for your $200,000 student loan debt and lack of non-minimum wage employment.

SJW lefty ideologies basically teach you that you're a victim of everything and you're too weak to handle life on your own, so you need the nanny state to care for you.

>>77190274
I'm surprised it's not German Ordnung porn.

>>77190378
I'm from New England it looks just like one of our roads.

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Here is my little home town. I'm sure it should not confuse or enrage anyone.

>>77200136
Those inbreds should just leave WV and go somewhere where they can find work.

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>>77201761
Town centre area

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>>77201852
Local road bridge

>>77191645
>I imagine if you're dropped in the middle of new york city you wouldn't even be able to leave by foot because it just goes on and on and on.
You could. People run the NYC marathon. Manhattan's grid system makes it easy to travel on foot.

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>>77201902
Popular camping area.

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>>77201943
People from local folk dance association

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Some farm houses near the town

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>>77202022
Local jewellery designer

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>>77193018
>"German" on/int/ confirmed for knowing nothing about the U.S. license system and then acts like an expert.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver%27s_licenses_in_the_United_States

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>>77202053
>all clocks have different times

>>77197762
It's not just an American thing and alcohol helps.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2017/apr/10/car-flips-four-metres-into-the-air-over-roundabout-video

Sidenote, my university changed the road plan to add more curves to slow traffic. No one crashed but it just became people pretending they were in an F-1 race.

>>77190274
Building houses in horizontal direction is super inefficient

>>77200179
LA is an inefficient city as far as transportation goes and you know it. It's basically a bunch of spreadout suburbs.

>>77201836
>>77200136
Chances are that Obama's idea of "retraining people" involved making them into feminism professors at Berkeley or something.

>>77200642
>But enjoy your $13,000 hospital bills and no 4 week paid vacation a year I guess
>I know nothing about Americans beside memes but I'm posting on /int/ with a European flag so what I think is reality.

>>77202487
The entire point of /int/ is basing your knowledge of countries from memes/Krautchan comics.

>>77200836
If % of whites is the most important factor for a country not being shit why is the supposedly better one actively importing the least educated brown people like they're Pokemon?

>>77200958
strangely on-topic as Detoilet is the result of urban sprawl

>>77200903
If I make 100k and you make 20k, and you spend 10% on medical and I spend 20%, I still have 80k and you have 19k. I'm still rich and you're poor and I didn't have to wait for my care.

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>>77200904
We shouldn't let some out desu. Pic related

>>77202618
It's more the result of the northern migration and resulting white flight, change in moving from a manufacturing nation to a service nation and >>77200976

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>>77190378
you're not scared driving 30 mph to get across your 5k population village

there are more people living in my state than in your country

>>77202760
And it was left incapable of handling the changes due to urban sprawl

After WWII, all jobs, money, and working class whites moved to the suburbs, the inner cities quickly disintegrated and nobody lived there except niggers and old people who couldn't or didn't want to move.

>>77202641
>I still have 80k and you have 19k. I'm still rich and you're poor
My loaf of bread costs 100 USD yours costs 700USD and you're still a retard for comparing absolute numbers without any context at all.

>>77200959
>a light bulb should light up in your head and say "you know, I don't fit here. I need to wake up and pull my life together"

There are so many variables that results in this. One powerful determinant is his social surroundings. If he grew up in an environment where education is not valued he would have most likely slacked around with his buddies throughout school. His poor school probably lacked a guidance counselor and proper teachers to set him on a right path. This probably led to him being dropped out and flipping burgers was the only thing he could do in his town. His buddies are probably doing the same thing and therefore probably doesn't know where else to turn.

>>77201516

If they want to live better lives, then they should work for it

>>77201852
>>77201902
>>77201943
that's cheating, lakes and forests make any town 100 times more comfy by default

>>77200720
You can be on welfare your entire life in Denmark if you just whine enough at the welfare office. Very "generous" welfare is like poison to lazy people and their kids

>>77202437
To be fair LA was one of the earliest to sprawl, but it's also one of the earliest to realize the consequences and take action. Read a while ago that there are now projects to reform the building codes for better space usage, rezone LA for more mixed use and to expand the light rail system, partially even by tearing down roads.

Meanwhile shitholes like Phoenix and Houston still add more developments and more lanes.

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>this activates the europoor's almonds

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>this infuriates the euro

>>77203507
I'm pretty confident that while space itself is for free, Americans fail to realize the costs involved in the transit that space generates.

You start building things double as far apart and you'll not only take double the time to travel between them, but also invest double the energy and require double roads for it, and partially even introduce transit that wasn't even previously necessary.

>>77203345

This

>>77203507
holy shit all that wasted space

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>>77203699
>be eurosmall
>go for a small walk
>be in another country

>>77203507
All those elevated highways and you still have traffic jams, looks like you need to patch that by adding more elevated highways

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>>77202856
my browser has more history than your entire country

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>live with cycling distance from work
>live within walking distance from the store
>still have a car and take trips on the weekend
Imagine driving to work
sounds like hell

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>>77203507
Also your interchanges are fucking ridiculous and the only possible explaination for them is that they're the result of construction company lobbying. Some contractor has earned his retirement tenfold with all those fucking bridges.

>>77203763
>Doesn't matter 'cause you don't need a passport to cross the EU

>>77198032
we have bendy buses though.

>>77201014
mmmm istanbul. jewel of earth literally.

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>>77203862
>open the picture
>guess Bend
>it's Eugene
So close. I admire Eugene's climate. Lots of vintage cars daily driven because the summer is mild and the winter is nearly snow-free.

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>>77203595
>this frightens the american

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>>77204012
The one thing Oregon has tried to do right is limit city growth. It still leads to new developments being suburbs, but most places have really good bike routes. My work is 6 miles away and with morning traffic I get there quicker by bike.

>>77199396
>no 'Taxes are bad because they are needed for the government to help the poor and disadvantaged'

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>>77199432
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_2lGkEU4Xs

>>77198599
you write that like it's something to be proud of

>>77190274
Sprawl is the worst shit ever

>>77203595
>Deep Fried Oreo
Seriously tho, what the fuck?

>>77190274
>block star
>corner boy
Why I am European.....

>>77204905
They taste good

>>77204963
bait

>>77198751
the fact that an unitedstatian always replies with this shows their inability to understand socialism, even though they themselves pay a relatively high amount of tax in the US

>>77204012
snazzy looking car, wonder why nips never tried to sell all their shit in Europe.

>>77205440
I think they did though, but it never arrived in the bloc states because Europe was firmly divided by hard borders for decades, also if I recall correctly from reading about them they didn't sell particularly well because the Japanese hadn't built a reputation for reliability yet at the time, and they had severe rust issues for a very long time.

>>77205600
Of course I'm not reffering to Warsaw Pact countries when I say "Europe".
But the model you posted was not sold outside of Japan, US and Australia.

>>77205653
According to the German Wikipedia article on the Toyota Corona they have, starting in 1971 when they first offered Toyotas in Germany. As I said they were simply a niche product upon their introduction.