Why haven't you moved to a suburb yet?

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>>77130490
>building wooden houses

>>77130490
All the qt twinks live in the city

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>>77130490
>not building individual houses made of stone and concrete

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>>77130490
I already live comfortably outside the city centre.

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Suburbia enough?

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>>77130566
You really think a brick house can stand up to a tornado? I doubt it very much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-9eQg9GYY4

Cpeдний клacc выдyмкa кaпитaлюг

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>>77130638
No, you aren't free enough yet

>>77130675
Modern houses are made with reinforced concrete

>>77130490
middle class is for the poor

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>>77130726
but if your house is concrete, it's very difficult to renovate
that whole industry will die, that's a lot of jobs you know?

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>>77130711
You sure?

>>77130711
This looks like a place with hot weather and few rainy days. Why don't they have proper pools on their properties? I see one of them have a "pool" bought at the nearest wallmart, but that's not what I mean.

>>77130490
>>77130711
commie tier arrangement

>>77130791
It's just an concrete shell on which we put a brick layer.

>>77130490
Because real wages have been decreasing in the past 30 years while the price of housing has rising thanks to real state market speculation.

The "middle class" is disappearing all over the world.

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>>77130793
A lot of pools here

>>77130836
This is much better, but I'd like this to be somewhere far from any deserts, not literally in the desert. God I hate desert and dry landscape so much. I would never want to live in that part of USA, no offence. This suburb you just posted would be great if it was in new england or something.

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Why haven't you moved to the inner city yet? Don't you want to be cultured?

>>77130791
its not hard to renovate, also it doesnt need to

>>77130711
only one family has a pool in their itsy bitsy tiny """garden"""... how poor are murricans please?

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>>77130793
For some of these housing developments, they have a community pool somewhere in the middle that anyone can go to. But the houses are very small and there are no curbs or sidewalks

>>77130726
>Modern houses are made with reinforced concrete

Where wood is more expensive.

>>77130836
>be amerigun
>swim near the desert
>get shot

>>77130943
Which is like everywhere.

>>77130836
>opening the front door to get into the house
>leaving the window open for a minute to get fresh air in
>turning your room into a desert
>having an insane amount of building space in the US of A
>still building in the desert
murrican logic

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>>77130894
>all those bikes
that is crazy, do you bike everywhere in the city?

Wood looks a lot better on houses, and it's preferable to brick houses(if you ask me). In mainland europe it's more expensive though, because they don't have a shitton of woods like you have in USA or in Scandinavia/Finland.

>>77130992
That's a normal amount of bikes

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>>77131050
If you live in a suburb, it is impossible to bike. You must own a car

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>>77130992
Didn't even notice them lol. Yes it's faster and easier

>>77131090
How far do these people living there have to drive? I'm just curious because I choose riding my bike to work over my car when it's not raining. The ride is about 2.5km, but before when I worked further away it was more like 4km.

>>77131090
Yeah, you just figured out what's wrong with american urban sprawl.

It's nice to have access to basic amenties like a bakery, a grocery store, a pharmacy and a farmer's market within a walking distance from your home.

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>>77131090
Kids in the countryside here ride a bike for an hour or more to go to school. In these landscapes

>>77131206
I'm so jealous of Dutch biking culture god.
It's definitely getting better and in the last 7 years we've done massive progress in this regard but we're nowhere close to Holland

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>>77131173
Well it depends on how far away you live from the shopping center. My house personally is maybe about 2 miles away. But there are others that are much further, maybe like 5 or 6 miles away from the shopping center (at least where I live).

I suppose the main issue with riding a bike everywhere is all the traffic. You have to constantly stop and make way for cars which pack the streets everywhere. Pretty much nobody bikes except for exercise, everyone has cars.

>>77131173
Nevermind, it's more like 3km, and 5km before (I just checked)

>>77130566
>wooden
*paper houses

>>77131173
10-20km on average I'd say. Some people definitely live even farther away from work though.

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>tfw Vegas has stronger houses than tornado alley and they live in the desert
LOL

>>77131309
That's easily doable with a bicycle.

>>77131155
>all those glass buildings
Not gonna work in Tornado alley m8

>>77131275
2 miles away equals to my 3km almost. It's not far at all if you ask me. However, my grocery shop is of course much closer than that. I have 2 different grocery stores under 5 minutes walking distance away.
>you have to constantly stop and make way for cars which pack the streets everywhere.
This is because you don't plan for having bicycling traffic, tho. And as for everyone having cars, yeah we all have cars here too, but riding bikes is healthy, easy, and even trendy.

>>77131309
Ok, that is way too far. Nobody would want to ride their bike to work if they have to commute that far.

>>77131425
>doable
It's supposed to be convenient, not doable. Nobody in Norway would want to choose their bike over their car if that's the distance they have to commute. Do you really do that in netherlands?

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Rate my suburb bros

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>>77131425
Well as far as work goes, one of the biggest trends in America is for people to live in the suburb, and then work in the city. That means they have to make a huge commute every day. Tons of traffic, 8 lane freeway packed with cars in both directions. The commute might take an hour or more each way. There really is no reasonable way to do it on a bicycle (at least for most people).

Especially because they haven't built any bike lanes for that purpose, you will have to take detours through all the housing developments and suburbs

>>77131536
I like it

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>>77131499
It happens.
Mostly in these bananas.

>>77131540
If the US would make proper bicycle routes it would help. You can do 20km in less than an hour.

>>77131609
What is that thing?

>>77131643
that is a lying down bicycle. Probably designed that way to protect people from snow and cold wind

>>77130566
Tornado like that would've torn through brick as well, and brick would've been more expensive to rebuild. Same goes for earthquake regions where wood is far safer. Wood simply makes more sense as a building material if it's abundant.

>>77131609
Hahah, hva faen. Never seen them before.

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>>77131643
A velomobiel, 3 wheeled bicycle with an aerodynamic shell.

>>77131679
Mostly just to go faster with less effort.

>>77131499
I ride my bike to work everyday when it's not raining. It's about 12km away so about 24km total. Sometimes I even take a shower when I get there, it's comfy

>>77131713
That sad thing is, tornadoes "like that" happen every year in Tornado alley. It's fucking scary living in that place. When people hear the sirens, they leave the damned city.

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>>77130612
Absolutely soulless modernist shit box. No characteristic features, no texture, just bland garbage built for profit.

>>77131741
Why the fuck do you need a wind tunnel? Is the thing tryna break mach speed?

>>77130836
>be American
>move into desert
>waste your scarce resources on filling up pools and maintaining golf course tier lawns

>>77131757
I don't mind a nice and long ride on my bike, I oftentimes ride it in the woods and in our mountans for fun. But when I go to work, I just want to go to work in time and not waste so much time doing just that. Riding my bike 12km for work commute is not for me, desu. I do that in my sparetime.

>>77131863
Those things go 40km/h with ease, without any help.

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>>77131782
Can you believe that Europeans take vacations just to see them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjb7QtMEBUg

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>>77131888
Explain this science to me.

>>77131090
Why do americans live like this? Looks like soulless colonies with No walking distance to anything, No beautiful surroundings, No history. God awful.

And all the houses are identical? Ant colony

>>77131890
Pretty surreal 2bh

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>>77131955
Wrong car goddammit fuck

>>77131955
>thin tire wall
>no ground clearance
that thing probably handles terribly

>>77131206
An hour to get to school in the worlds most cramped tiny country where everything should be close? Wtf

1hour to school is insane

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>>77131955
>very low
>shaped aerodynamically
>very tall gears
>efficient seating position

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>>77131863
>Whadda hell yall need a wind tunnel for? The only wind tunnel round these neck of the woods is in mah dang underpants. Just slap a three fiddy crate engine and a Ferd 9 inch rear end in that sumabitch and you'll go faster than a bull in a hootin'.

We have tornadoes too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZOowedYHq8

>>77132042
We still have countryside, which don't have high schools, so those kids have to ride to the nearest city.

>>77131990
It was supposed to be the fastest car in the world but those cunts at Bugatti made it no challenge to beat us. Why can't we have somewhere in the US to test top speed without going on fucking space shuttle runways?

>>77130490
I am working on it

>>77131887
sometimes I just feel lazy and use the car tho

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Do Europeans have huge box stores like these?

>>77132077
Not as bad as Tornado alley.

>>77131782
>>77131890
Lmfao, I can't believe some of you choose to live there. I'm happy we don't have any extreme weather in Norway. We had this so-called "100 year storm" in 1992, it made some destruction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year%27s_Day_Storm
Estimated strongest wind in Norway during the hurricane was 45 meters/s on average over ten minutes (mean wind). Strongest wind based on short-term throws was estimated at 65 m/s.

This is still pretty low compared to the katrina hurricane you had, for example, which I believe had 75m/s mean wind.

>>77132158
We don't even have those where I live, fucking poorfags.

>>77132158
Yes, but they're reserved to people with a retail license who have their own small stores to restock. In return the goods are cheaper in bulk and carry no value added tax since that one only applies to the very end of the product chain.

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>>77132158
Yes.

>>77132158
you mean everything you buy is in a box? you cant buy shit by the unit?

>>77132189
Katrina was in Louisiana though, so bordering the ocean. Midwestern states are all landlocked so they don't have to deal with rushing flood water.

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>>77132272
The idea of a box store is you buy in bulk, and everything is super cheap.

So instead of buying 1 toilet paper roll, you will buy a package of 50

>>77132272
This is probably for the suburb life there in which people will buy more than they need just the next 3-4 days. Instead they will have what they need the next two weeks or more.

>>77131955
Ever rode a bike? The single biggest thing that slows you down is aero drag and the energy losses from tyres.

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>>77132158
Yep, they're convenient

>>77132272
That's just cash&carry stores. Self-service wholesale.

>>77132355
The only thing a bike is good for where I live is riding to the other end of the neighborhood. It would take hours to actually get to town. I could ride to the dollar general but that would take 30 minutes to go from and back.

>>77132327
yeah we have those, although it's probably not as big as you guys

also what he said >>77132252

>>77132348
desu there are some stuff that you can store at home for months and then not bother buying it anymore for a long time, like toilet paper, cans, drinks, toothpaste and shit

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Not sure if it's the same but we have something called Scandinavia park just south of the border where everything is bigger and cheaper

>>77130490
I'm upper class already. Plebs get out.

>>77130490
Fuck no I don't want to live in suburban hell.

t. innawoods

>>77132519
What about milk? Checkmate.

>>77132546
Post your view too >>77130627

>>77132519
Why the hell would I stock toilet paper for a year at home? There's no toilet paper stock market where the prices go up and down and you need to get a good deal. Toilet paper always costs the same.

>living in a "neighbourhood" that is more than a 10 minute walk from the local dairy
you might aswell live in the middle of the sahara

>>77132600
You don't know true capitalism yet.

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>>77132600
because, if you buy in volume things are cheaper. The more you buy, the lower the price is

>>77132479
>It would take hours to actually get to town.
Damn this has to suck terribly.
"Hours" is what takes me to pack a bike and go on a 60+ km trip to my grandma on a warm summer day.

>I could ride to the dollar general but that would take 30 minutes to go from and back.
Roughly what it takes me to ride from home to Uni. And to work I just walk, it's like 15 minutes on foot.

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>>77132592
Here.

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>>77131536
The bricks look pretty FAKE.

>>77132719
Suburbs are almost always never in the main part of the city because they don't have to pay city tax. But it's MILES away from the city.

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>>77132738
how is paris these days?

>>77132801
They're real bruv, it's shit quality but they're real.

This shit makes me nauseous.

>>77132704
>better build gigantic bulk stores, drive everywhere and ruin our city planning so we can buy toilet paper a quarter dollar cheaper a pack

>>77132829
Still better than D.C.

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>>77132738
You could not bother flipping it, you damn metropolitan?

>>77132829
Not like your video at all. This is pure meme. Right now it's Summer so most actual Parisians left the city, poorfag immigrants stayed and tourists arrived, which makes them overestimate the number of nigs. The fact is that no Parisian want to be bothered by fucking tourists and leave so that they won't see you.

>>77131741
>Three wheeled Bicycle

>>77132935
4chan deletes metadata, including the orientation on photos from certain mobile operating systems.

>>77132600
it's convenient, I don't want to buy toilet paper everytime I run errands.

>>77132935
>windows phone
I'm not alone
>>77132913
>america
>city planning
Pick one

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>>77132913
yeah pretty much kek

But in terms of material wealth, Americans are actually wealthier than most europeans. Probably because of this.

>>77132935
How do I do that on Android ?
Very nice view btw, I like it a lot.

>>77133025
Actually if you adjust by currency exchange, living cost index and household size, the median American household income is nearly the same as the German household income, at least gross. We earn less per household, but our households are smaller and our living costs are lower.

Also you have more denbs, in return we lose more in taxes.

>>77133025
Where is that redneck shithole? Alabama?

>>77133117
You mean American debt to China? That is a load of bullshit.

>>77133025
>when your garage is bigger than your house
why do Americans do this

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Another view.

>>77133155
https://data.oecd.org/hha/household-debt.htm

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>>77133175
And what's funny is, most of the garages are used for storage and filled with junk like pic related. So people park their cars out on the street or in the driveway

>>77133175
Because 70 years of car-centric urban planning have comprehensively ruined all alternative transport concepts.

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>>77133285
do you watch futbol in your man cave garage with ya pals eh?

Suburbs life... seems boring.

>>77133264
>Denmark
Damn, those fireworks sure fucked them.

>>77133285
>single car sized
>bicycles in it
Definitely not Americans.

>>77133358
>putting that motorcycle on that polished wood flooring
Fucking imbeciles

>>77133285
Do they have attics?

>>77133438
but it's cute to have a little fantasy bar in your cookie cutter house :3

>>77133438
>wood
You mean wood imitation PVC tiles.

>>77133409
Probably upstate New York.
>>77133447
We have attics but they're full of junk too. America has a hoarder mentality.

>>77131455
>tornado
>in Denmark

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>>77133409
That's just an example I found. But I'm telling you, most people don't park in their garages (at least where I live). They are used to store random junk.

>>77133514
Exactly, who needs modern architecture when it's all gonna be fucked up every year.

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>>77133478
Fake tits and plastic wood
U S A

>>77133521
I know, I've actually made that argument myself on occasions.

>tfw it's impossible to not be knowledgable on the US and not have a hate-love relationship to them in modern western civilization

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>>77133447
The "attic" of a suburban house will typically look like this. All of that stuff you see is insulation

If you step anywhere except on those crossbeams, you will fall through the roof

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>>77130490
>not living in the hood
pussy

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>>77133521
My garage is (mostly) clean though.

>>77133616
this

>>77133616
It's obvious nobody lives in those buildings.

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>>77133597
Don't forget the foam stucco and nonstructural foam columns. The balcony roofs carry their own weight since they're only wood and foam anyway.

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>>77133632
nice umbrella
probably wont hold rain though, if it's made in USA... u know.... bcuz its fake bro

>>77133733
yeah I have been reading one Mc Mansion site. Inside of those houses are usually fucking strange. Layouts are garbage etc.

>>77133737
Better than being made out of communism.

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>>77133827
>tfw you're free and you hate commie blocs

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Anyway, enough with the whining. Time to post some cozy American houses.

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>>77132158
Why do murricans "fight" in a big "box" in the supermarket?

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>>77133859

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>>77133906

>have rooms in the basement
why do americans do this?

our basements are meant to store food, store junk and sometimes little girls lol

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>>77133944
yeah the suburbs look way better with trees

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>>77133776
What's wrong with mcmansion?

>>77133859
>>77133906
>>77133944
>romanticizing murrican """"""""""houses""""""""""

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>>77133985
I do romaniticize reasonably sized American bungalows. Our own style of houses looks absolutely soulless.

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>>77134111
really? I don't think so at all

>>77133607
seems kinda pointless, like its just to give a house shape

>>77134111
>steel sheet roofing
into the trash it goes

>>77134174
partially, but also you go into the attic for maintenance purposes sometimes. For example, repairing the ceiling, electrical wiring, installing new lightbulbs and ceiling fans....things like this

It's very treacherous, because if you step between the cross beams you go right through the ceiling

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>>77133979
>badly built
>needlessly large
>non-sensical layouts just to seem even larger on the inside
>energy intensive
>waste of resources
>usually dominate their property area so buyers can get the most house for the buck
>usually situated in horridly laid out neighborhoods that are isolated from all interest points

>>77134221
Those are actually terracotta roof tiles. Nevertheless with the red roof tiles, pastel wall plaster and absolute lack of features every house here looks the exact fucking same.

>>77134297
you are right. But where I live in California, you are not allowed to build more than 1 story because of the earthquake danger. If you spend a lot of money on special reinforcements, you are allowed to go up to 2 stories. But still, you can't have large apartment complexes and stuff.

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>>77134366
sorry I am somehow blind maybe
In Bolan they use grey tiles now what should be considered as """""modern""""" while it looks sad imho I find classic brick colour ceramics roofing best

>>77134297
> Be American
> Get lost in a suburb
> Stop to ask local homies
> "Hey, how can I get to Niger Dr?"
> Get shot

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>>77134591
It's definitely the highest quality roofing, but nevertheless our houses always end up looking really similar and absolutely boring because no one is willing to spend extra money on distinctive features or decoration.

I've already posted the wood house with the thatched roof earlier. Another roofing material that looks really nice is slate. Don't know if Bolan has regions with slate deposits.

>>77134297
Holy kek that image

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>>77134784
it's not common at all,

going back to different than brick-red roof colour it looks good only when the house plan fits the style, classic plans with those modern roofs look like wannabe

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>>77134937
Aren't Australian neighborhoods just as bad?

>>77135072
Yes, and in some regards they can be worse (often on smaller blocks than American ones and in some suburbs you can find the exact same house several times). But I've never seen anything as poorly laid out as that in my entire life. Also unlike American suburbs our suburbs are much smaller.

>>77135238
What materials do you guys usually build with? From photos I remember Australian houses looking like American single story ranch houses but with European roof tiles.

>>77134402
>But where I live in California, you are not allowed to build more than 1 story because of the earthquake danger.
Well that's at least a proper excuse for Californians right there anon.
But entire United States isn't located on a tectonic shift is it?

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>>77135312
Brick 100% of the time. As for roofing, it's either corrugated metal or tile, no exceptions. This if for the typical new home that you'd find in a typical suburb.

Pic related is the worst you'd typically find, imagine this x100 with slight variations between each house.

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>>77135650
And this is what you'd typically find in a better but still fairly average suburb.

>>77135650
Corrugated roof is cozy as fuck, I imagine with a bit of noise insulation it's the best sound in the world to fall asleep to when it's raining. Family used to have a weekend bungalow with a corrugated plastic roof over the porch, and even the plastic rain sound was cozy as can be.

>this thread again
what is your endgame? you made your point so many times already. same retards ITT. every time. talking about the same shit and the same memes.

>>77135742
True, it is really nice. My house has both a corrugated metal roof and a plastic car port roof so it's max /comfy/. Unfortunately though corrugated roofs often look shit, especially if they're fairly flat and you have trees on your property.

>>77135929
I imagine them being easy to pressure wash though. Not like a tiled roof where moisture and dirt can creep into slips or where you can accidentally pressure blast tiles away.

>>77136098
Yeah, also they last forever and are easier to fix.

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>>77136218
Well, anything's better than asphalt shingles. Literally the shit you put on toolsheds.

>tfw you won't live in American suburb when ur 16 and as qt girl next door to go with you to the prom

Is that normal occurrence in US?

>>77130992
didnt even notice the bikes...

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>>77134297
Or its boring squares....or they fuck it up...

>>77133886
Because Americans get nervous if there isn't a fight going on somewhere around them, and may start fights of their own.

>>77131090
>impossible to bike
It is possible, fat ass. Try it.

>>77131206
misery...

>>77131540
Yeah, there are no traffic in Europe at all. They all ride bicycles to work in their big cities the size of LA (do they even have cities that big?). Nice cherry picking. What's up with this cycling to work bullshit?

>>77131965
The average working class american doesn't care about surrounding or history dummy they just want a place to raise a family and die.

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>>77139516
>What's up with this cycling to work bullshit?
It's literally faster to ride a bike to work in Stockholm than driving. Especially in morning traffic.
I have a 35 minute drive. Takes 20 minutes on a bike. 8/10 people at my office rides a bicycle instead of driving. Saves both money and time.

>>77139637
you guys always brag about your public transport. why not use it?

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>>77139761
Because a bicycle is cheaper, still faster and you get healthy and breath fresh air instead of being stuck with tons of germs in some tube or buss..

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why do europoors always hate on our suburbs?

there's literally nothing wrong with them

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>>77139525
This is america, pajeet (or wherever the fuck you are from). We don't have 1000 old historic buildings. Working class or not.

>>77139844
Sure, but can't you ride in your free time instead of riding to work? I like riding as an exercise and recreation, not as the means of transportation. Do you take a shower at work and change once you get there? Sounds like a hassle. Or you are not even breaking sweat? Then it is not really an exercise.

>>77139948
Because memes and cherry picking. Most of them have no idea what the average suburb looks like. People always post the worst examples and pretend that all of they look like that.

>>77139948
for the bants

>>77132158
This >>77132252, You can only use those types of stores to supply your business here.

>>77140241
I like riding whenever I can like most people here. It's something we have to do, it's something we want to do. Sun, rain, snow or hail. It doesn't matter, and yes most Swedish workplaces have a changing room and showers available if need be. My boss rides over 45 minutes to and from work every day, spends 30 minutes in the gym with me and the others then shower and start working.
People simply like to be active, it's fun.
A car isn't a status symbol here, a bike is a perfectly good vehicle for all ages and most companies and businesses have more parking spaces for bikes than for cars.
And this isn't something new here, the bicycle has been the number one mode of transport since the 1910s.
Even our army had/have a bicycle mounted platoon.

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>>77140737
This.

Pretty much everyone I know uses their car as the last mode of transport they have, for like going shopping etc when you need to transport a lot of stuff.
My parents are 60+ years old, pretty wealthy and both ride around on electrical bicycles (you still have to pedal, it's just electrical assist) for example.
I sold my car years ago, had no need for it and just the gas was like 1/8th of my salary each month..
I just rent a car if I do need it. Doesn't happen often. I have a Bullit cargo bike, I've even moved all my furniture using it when I changed apartments.
>like in the pic

>>77141123
do you own a piano?

>>77141168
No but if I did I would pay someone to move it.
Would be a hell of a lot cheaper than owning a car.

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>>77141168
Not him but a guy in my town transports water whenever people need it on his bicycle.
That's a lot heavier than a piano.

>>77141495
cool.
i have to ask though...
what about water? d-d-d-don't you have tap water?

>>77133962
Depends entirely on the basement. The nicer the house, the more likely it is to have a "finished" basement. In my house, the basement was shitty and flooded with a few inches of water every spring, so we just stored tools, washer/dryer, food, cleaning supplies, and unused things there.

>>77141795
Sure but this is a town full of farmers. He owns one of the biggest springs in the area and often helps out to water the animals etc.
For example, the massive folk music festival we have in town. He delivers over 50% of the drinking water for people there.

>>77141123

Nice but we have to go deeper...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stb9FnmH52s

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the suburbs are horrible because they are alienating. when you go about your daily life, you seldom see other people's faces. That sounds trivial, but it makes a difference. everyone's isolated in their detached homes, in their individual cars. when you can't walk anywhere, you don't develop the same relationship with the place around you. when there are no public spaces, when you're functionally isolated from the people around you, and when the restaurants and shops around you are chain stores that are not unique to any place, your neighborhood and community suddenly become places not worth caring about.

you could be lost in a suburb in new york, pennsylvania, tennessee, kentucky, illinois, or nebraska. But you would never be able to tell them apart from each other, save for the road signs or perhaps different topography. They are monotonous and soul crushing.

have you ever been stranded in a suburb because your car broke down? there's nowhere for you to go. Every inch of space around you is privately owned. there are no stores to go to the bathroom in or to buy a bottle of water. There are no benches to sit down on. there's no one on the sidewalk to ask for help because no one walks. you totally alone and alienate

the American suburb is a national embarrassment. I unironically want all suburban developments to be razed to the ground

t. lived in the suburbs for the first 18 years of my life and would rather die a slow death than go back

>>77130490
That's actually quite bloody horrible!

>>77144303
At least I don't have to worry about being mauled by bears or being stabbed to death by a mentally ill ex-commie.

>>77144272
awesome timestamp

>>77143126
we have that here too

>>77144272
>lost in a US suburb
>lost anywhere
>no one on the sidewalk to ask for help
>2017
Are you living in the past? Call AAA and they will come to the rescue in 30 min.