Canada appreciation thread?

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>>76947383
>t. country with a cuckstamp that was literally ruled by a Jew

>torturing a 15 year old

>>76947383
Reminder that a confession made under duress caused by torture is completely invalid.

>>76947467
>Terrorism is okay if you're 15 and dad told you to do it lmao
Allahu akbar my brother

>>76947383
>torture someone to extract confessions
That's Caliphate-tier

>>76947507
What terrorism?

He threw a grenade at a soldier after his village was bombed to shit and everyone there killed.

They're paying him, not his dead father.

>>76947467
>torturing anyone
unconstitutional

>calls american pig
>spends like 10 years getting torturted
>gets 10 million

all in all, not the worst trade off

>>76947553
>His village
The fucker is Canadian, I don't recall the Americans invading any Canadian villages in the last century do you? There's footage of the man making fucking bombs in a foreign country that is not his own acting as an illegal combatant as per UN standards. If I go commit a terrorist act can I get 10 million dollars if I say my dad told me to do it? If anyone is responsible for this fucking mess it's the god damn americans. This cock sucker should be thanking allah every god damn day he's even back in Canada. 10 million fucking dollars of mine and your money to a god damn terrorist is a fucking travesty.

>>76947553
He was living in an al Qaeda compound lol

>>76947760
t. Autistic /pol/tard

Do you think he told his father he wanted to move to Afghanistan to help al-Qaeda?

Are you actually that dense that you think his morals at the time weren't molded and refined by his father's influence?

And you think torturing a 15 year old was justified? Do you know how impressionable kids are, especially having his father feeding him the anti-West rhetoric all his life?

Jesus Christ. People like you make us look like Americans.

>>76947467
>torturing a murderer is a bad thing if he's 15

>>76947913
>someone think of the poor jihadis!

>>76947913
Trudeau tier dissembling

Our real mistake was not leaving the runt to die in the sand rather than taking him to hospital

I was reading about this in the paper the other day, kind of hilarious, he's going to turn around and give this money to a terrorist organization most likely, what is Canada even thinking, Fucking laughing my ass off.

>>76947610

He's done a bit more than harmlessly insult someone, are you even able to read?

>>76947955
>>76947967
>>76947981
Woah, great arguments.

You sure convinced me.

>>76948032
Classic American post.

>>76947553

Are you trolling, or just bloody stupid?

>>76948067
I meant kill

>>76947955
>torture
>ever a good thing
stasi pls go

>>76948121

Decapitated anyone today Hamar?

>>76948133

Stasi? in France? in this day and age?

>>76948103
>be 15 year old kid
>everyone around you is dead and the village you are in being bombed
>massive shell shock disorienting you
>"hurrr why didnt the kid who was fearing for his life act rationally!!!"

Are you trolling? I know you aren't though, because you genuinely think a child that age should be treated the same way as a grown man.

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>the leaf leaps for joy at the idea of paying taxes to make terroists millionaires

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>>76948203

>15 years old
>child

>terrorist compound
>village

>>76948234
This is the website where Breivik is seen as a hero. Your logic doesn't work here.

>>>/r/the_donald

Capturing and imprisoning terrorists is perfectly fine, as is killing them in combat or lawfully executing them.

Torture is not. It is unconstitutional and against American values.

Don't torture, don't have to pay denbts to terrorists. Simple.

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>>76948091
I seriously cannot imagine the circumstances in ones' life which would lead them to sympathize with a captive desert mudrat forced to gargle a bit of saltwater by his handlers at Bagram airbase--to the point of wishing to award him damages for his suffering. A fifteen year old is a man in the Middle East. There are younger people fighting in ISIS, SDF, YPG etc. right now. Giving state money to a foreign jihadi because he is a Canadian citizen by some bizarre accident of birth is utterly reprehensible and essentially tantamount to abetting terrorism.

But of course if you kill your enemies, they win.

>>76948280
Maybe 15 isn't a child in your opinion. That's why you have no qualms with child porn, you nasty fucker.

>>76948234
>kid who threw a grenade when his village was bombarded
Terrorist
>cop who shot a black kid because he had a toy gun
Real American Hero

>>76948312
edge

>>76948312
>Breivik is seen as a hero
By edgy /pol/sters, and nothing more.

>>76948350
He should be judged and jailed according to his crime and age. Not tortured and put in a hellhole.
That's basically what's written in your own constitution.

>>76948325
>Burger warriors murder and torture mudshits
>Canada takes the blame and issues multimillion dollar payouts to survivors

>>76948133
well, torture is not a so good thing, yea

slapping the cunt ten or twenty times/day is much better.

>>76948325
>lawfully executing them.
>lawfully
>executing
>prisoners of war

>>76948548
He didn't fly so good

>At Bagram, he was repeatedly brought into interrogation rooms on stretchers, in great pain. Pain medication was withheld, apparently to induce cooperation. He was ordered to clean floors on his hands and knees while his wounds were still wet. When he could walk again, he was forced to stand for hours at a time with his hands tied above a door frame. Interrogators put a bag over his head and held him still while attack dogs leapt at his chest. Sometimes he was kept chained in an interrogation room for so long he urinated on himself.

>Before boarding a C-130 transport to Guantanamo, Omar was dressed in an orange jumpsuit and hog-chained: shackled hand and foot, a waist chain cinching his hands to his stomach, another chain connecting the shackles on his hands to those on his feet. At both wrist and ankle, the shackles bit. The cuffs permanently scarred many prisoners on the flight, causing them to lose feeling in their limbs for several days or weeks afterward. Hooded and kneeling on the tarmac with the other prisoners, Omar waited for many hours. His knees sent intensifying pain up into his body and then went numb.

>Just before he got on the plane, Omar was forced into sensory-deprivation gear that the military uses to disorient prisoners prior to interrogation. The guards pulled black thermal mittens onto Omar's hands and taped them hard at the wrists. They pulled opaque goggles over his eyes and placed soundproof earphones over his ears. They put a deodorizing mask over his mouth and nose. They bolted him, fully trussed, to a backless bench. Whichever limbs hadn't already lost sensation from the cuffs lost sensation from the high-altitude cold during the flight, which took fifteen hours. "There was points I wished to God that one of these MPs would go crazy and then shoot me," recalled one of the hundreds of detainees who have made the trip. "It was the only time in my life that I really wished for a bullet."

wew

>>76948357

isn't 15 the age of consent in canada?

>>76947913
Don't call me a /pol/tard for you fucking cunt. It hardly makes me a right winger to be disgusted by giving a terrorist millions of dollars you bleeding heart shit. I'm disgusted by the torture as much as anyone but that wasn't Canada that did that. His reward should be being back in this country and being exonerated of his crimes committed as a youth. To give him millions upon millions of dollars though is the greatest travesty this country has seen in years.

Everyone is molded by their parents to some degree but everyone by the age of 15 is capable of independent thought and should know the basic differences between right and wrong.

>>76948629
>At Guantanamo, Omar was led, his senses still blocked, onto a bus that took the prisoners to a ferry dock. Some of the buses didn't have seats, and the prisoners usually sat cross-legged on the floor. Guards often lifted the prisoners' earphones, told them not to move, and when they moved — helplessly, with the motion of the bus, like bowling pins — started kicking them. The repeated blows often left detainees unable to walk for weeks.

>After the ferry ride, Omar was evaluated at a base hospital. "Welcome to Israel," someone told him. Then he was locked in a steel cage eight feet long and six feet wide. Because the cage had a sink and squat-toilet and the bed was welded to the floor, the open floor space was comparable to that of a small walk-in closet. The cages had been hurriedly constructed from steel mesh and transoceanic shipping containers. Giant banana rats ran freely through the cells and across the roofs and shit everywhere: on beds, on sinks, on Korans. Prisoners were allowed only one five-minute shower each week; the cellblocks stood in a perpetual stench.

>>76947467
You do realize "good" people weren't sent to Guantanamo. Even if they couldn't be convicted of crimes they were basically the scum of the earth.

>>76948629
still not as bad as what they do to our prisoners. don't particularly care

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>>76948548

>prisoner of war
>terrorist

>>76948644
Harper raised it from 14 to 16 but there's a lot of caveats like if you're 13 you can consent to fuck someone within 2 years of your age or if you're 16 you can't fuck someone in a "position of authority" but you can consent to fuck an adult. I'm not entirely sure of the actual laws because I'm not a pedo but it goes something like that.

>>76948697
>>76948629
Don't try to kill us soldiers.
Not that complicated

>>76948655
>everyone by the age of 15 is capable of independent thought and should know the basic differences between right and wrong.
Were you ?
If you were attacked and bombed by a foreign power and people told you that you should do your part to defeat it, would you ?

>>76948697
>A few months after Omar Khadr arrived at Guantanamo Bay, he was awakened by a guard around midnight. "Get up," the guard said. "You have a reservation." "Reservation" is the commonly used term at Gitmo for interrogation.

>In the interrogation room, Omar's interviewer grew displeased with his level of cooperation. He summoned several MPs, who chained Omar tightly to an eye bolt in the center of the floor. Omar's hands and feet were shackled together; the eye bolt held him at the point where his hands and feet met. Fetally positioned, he was left alone for half an hour.

>Upon their return, the MPs uncuffed Omar's arms, pulled them behind his back and recuffed them to his legs, straining them badly at their sockets. At the junction of his arms and legs he was again bolted to the floor and left alone. The degree of pain a human body experiences in this particular "stress position" can quickly lead to delirium, and ultimately to unconsciousness. Before that happened, the MPs returned, forced Omar onto his knees, and cuffed his wrists and ankles together behind his back. This made his body into a kind of bow, his torso convex and rigid, right at the limit of its flexibility. The force of his cuffed wrists straining upward against his cuffed ankles drove his kneecaps into the concrete floor. The guards left.

>>76948814
this kid was born in Canada. he shouldn't have even been there in the first place. it was not his country being invaded

>>76948787
I get the point, but really he should be treated as a PoW, he did it solely because he believed that was self-defence

>>76948803
I agree, but you should try not bombing them to smithereens before.

>>76948697
>Welcome to Israel

Imagine being an american lmao

>>76948814
>If you were attacked and bombed by a foreign power
Please refer to my previous comment here
>>76947760

Perhaps you'd like to show me some evidence of his country, Canada, being attacked by a foreign power, namely the Americans. I'll be waiting.

>>76948848
>An hour or two later they came back, checked the tautness of his chains and pushed him over on his stomach. Transfixed in his bonds, Omar toppled like a figurine. Again they left. Many hours had passed since Omar had been taken from his cell. He urinated on himself and on the floor. The MPs returned, mocked him for a while and then poured pine-oil solvent all over his body. Without altering his chains, they began dragging him by his feet through the mixture of urine and pine oil. Because his body had been so tightened, the new motion racked it. The MPs swung him around and around, the piss and solvent washing up into his face. The idea was to use him as a human mop. When the MPs felt they'd successfully pretended to soak up the liquid with his body, they uncuffed him and carried him back to his cell. He was not allowed a change of clothes for two days.

>The design of Omar Khadr's life at Guantanamo Bay apparently began as a theory in the minds of Air Force researchers. After the Korean War, the Air Force created a program called SERE — Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape — to help captured pilots resist interrogation. SERE's founders wanted to know what kind of torture was most destructive to the human psyche so that they could train pilots to withstand it. In experiments, they held subjects in dummy POW camps and had them starved, stripped naked and partially drowned. Administrators carefully noted the subjects' reactions, often measuring the levels of stress hormones in their blood.

>>76948629
b-but he's an ebil turrisst

>>76948629
>>76948697
>>76948848
Makes me think of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtQLp9bR9-k and the following vids.

>>76948867
The country in which you are born is not necessarily your own.

>>76948877
he was obviously living with militants

>In early 2002, Khadr was living in Waziristan with his mother and younger sister.[17] At one point, he was forced to wear a burqa and disguise himself as a girl to avoid scrutiny, an act that upset him.[17] When his father returned, Omar asked to be allowed to stay at a group home for young men, despite his mother's protests. His father agreed, and a month later allowed Omar to accompany a group of Arabs associated with Abu Laith al-Libi, who needed a Pashto translator during their stay in Khost.[17][23][24]
>According to charges signed in April 2007 by the military commission officer Susan J. Crawford, Khadr received "one-on-one" weapons training in June 2002,[25] and his visits to his mother and sister became less frequent.[17]

>>76947913
>Do you think he told his father he wanted to move to Afghanistan to help al-Qaeda?
Regardless of where I was at 15 I could make my own decisions as to whether attacking soldiers was a smart move.

>Are you actually that dense that you think his morals at the time weren't molded and refined by his father's influence?
If I kill a black man at 15 here, my childhood isn't going to act as a get out of jail free card. Charles Manson had a fucked up childhood it hasn't helped him.
>And you think torturing a 15 year old was justified? Do you know how impressionable kids are, especially having his father feeding him the anti-West rhetoric all his life?
At 15 I like most people had moved past the point of giving a shit about my father's opinions. If you still parroted your parents at 15 I feel sorry for you.

>>76947955
torture it's always bad, no matter what

but it's necessary sometimes, kinda like killing

>>76948883
See >>76948927. His country might not technically be attacked, but his village was.

I don't defend him, I just say that's due process of law. Canada decides to compensate him instead of the US is just because they know the US won't and your country has some values.
The kid could technically try to sue for literal war crime.

if he lived a bit longer in the indoctrination of militant islam, he might've joined his older brother who left the al-qaeda camps out of disgust for what his father was doing

his brother came back to canada and was apparently a CIA informant

>what are human rights

>>76949027
Torture yields very few good results.

>>76948992
There was a French documentary about a 15 year-old Yazidi refugee (now living in Germany) who was an ISIS soldier when he was 12.
He acknowledged that what he did was evil, but if he didn't show utmost zeal, he would have been killed.
I don't know about Omar, but maybe he did the same thing.
http://www.francetvinfo.fr/monde/proche-orient/offensive-jihadiste-en-irak/video-les-enfants-perdus-du-califat_2182439.html
Link in French

>>76948357
>Maybe 15 isn't a child in your opinion. That's why you have no qualms with child porn, you nasty fucker.
Not him but nice nuclear powered strawman there. Why are you even defending 10 million of your tax money going to a shithead?

>>76948377
>Canadian kid who threw a grenade when his terrorist compound overseas was bombarded
>Terrorist
Yep
>>cop who shot a black kid because he had a toy gun
>Real American Hero
No one ever said that.

>>76949170
Canada isn't a third world shithole where we allow the violation of human rights to be swept under the rug. That's the difference between us and you.

You still have the death sentence running in some of your states.

>>76949214
>No one ever said that.
/pol/ does.

>this thread
https://youtu.be/qtQLp9bR9-k?t=1m1s

>>76949127
>muslims
>human

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>>76949276
>>No one ever said that.
>/pol/ does.
Yes /pol/ is representative of the real world.

>>76949316
t. Abdul Hussein Abbas

>>76949273
Again you keep changing the subject. Torture also isn't legal here. I'm also sure Canadians have tortured someone before.

Yep they tortured their own.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/canadian-soldiers-prisoner-war-training-wainwright-alberta-1.4053351

>>76949316

Yes, America is my country, and you're a faggot.

>>76949490
>it happened before so we can do the same
American ethics

>>76949485
If even Muslims can claim moral superiority, what are you ?

>>76949406
It is in 4chan.

>>76948133
>calling frenchmen for stasi agents
my sides

>>76949575
>England is my city
America is a continent

Hopefully this inspires more Canadians to become terrorists

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>>76949575
USA ! USA ! USA !

>>76949027
>but it's necessary sometimes, kinda like killing

It's shit because I can make anyone say anything under torture or duress to suit my needs

>>76949689

America is my country, the demonymn for the people of my country is Americans, you haven't a leg to stand upon, even as the troll you are.

>>76949849
t. United-Statian

American professionalism in war :
https://youtu.be/qtQLp9bR9-k?t=5m38s

>>76948719
Bullshit

Its purpose of existence was so CIA Mormons could beat Arabs into confession of unrelated crimes, so they could avoid spending money on actual investigations on our Middle East conflicts

>>76949919

You are barely worth the effort of this reply, you plebeian.

>>76950166
>reddit spacing

>>76947955
Yes

>>76947477
THIS

>>76950266

I understand that you may be confused by formatting. It's something that you do when you have to write information that other people have to read and interpret.

>>76948927
Christ I hate french "people" why were we in a war to save you pathetic retards

Clearly the primary mistake made with Omar Khadr was the initial treatment of his wounds. They should have let that little shit bleed out in the desert.

>>76950527
>we
Nice larping

>>76947383
>convicted of killing a US soldier
>in a fucking combat zone in a fucking firefight
>not even convicted, at all since it wasn't even proven he threw a grenade

topkek choice of words.

We are footing the bill because we

>denied due process
>aid and abetted a practice that violated our constitution

Unlike the US we actually fucking read and interpret our constitution clearly because it was written with modern choice of words.

We paid the exact same amount to an innocent IT guy that the US sent to syria to get tortured worse than guatanamo because he shared a name with an alqaeda member.

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>>76948548
>unlawful combatants
>prisoners of war
French edumacation

>first time on /int/
>this thread

I thought canadians being crazy leftist was just a meme like that photoshopped picture of Trudeau. Or is /int/ just some sort of leftwing version of /pol/?

>>76953187
Pretty much. I'd suggest you leave now because this board is worse than /b/.

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America shat the bed by torturing a Canadian child. I think that THEY should be the ones forced to pay compensation.

Also torturing kids for false confessions is literally ISIS tier.

Y'all burgers should be ashamed

>>76953318
I will, thanks for letting me know.

>>76947467
Fuck burger imperialists I'm glad he got my tax dollars.