These countries have been independent nearly just as long as the USA

Not the same culture
Too many different cultures

>>76805512
LOS

>>76805512
Brazil was actually richer/more important than the US for a while, but the heat fucks everything up, as we've grown to learn.

>>76805512
Because your country don't allow them to

>>76805613
They all speak Spanish (except Brazil)
They're all Catholic

Once you share a language, you're really not that different

>>76805512
Socialism and political corruption
Argentina used to be richer than most European nations, but political instability turned it into a shithole

>>76805874
I've always thought that but they still can't endure each others so i guess there's something more to it

>>76805895
Argentina had the best chance because instead of being heavily Spanish influenced it got a lot of Italians.

>>76805512
Criollos were shit tier, they thought they could manage those territories as the peninsulars did but they failed and stole everything. 200 years lates mestizos and indians blame modern spaniards.

Too many reasons to list
Also, germany is a unified country for less time than most of LA countries are independent so it is not a matter of time.

>>76805512
We are in the same continent as the USA, its like living with a monkey that throws his shit, good luck developing at full speed with that

>>76806087
That's funny because millions of your countrymen are still fleeing here. What does that say about Mexico?

>>76806107
2009 called, it wants its demographic facts back

too much iberian genes

>>76805965
Both countries are shit tier (Italy and Spain), my professor went to chile for a couple of years to teach and he said that institutionally and academically Chile has a lot in common with how Germans manage their country, and look at them now, they are descent enough.

>>76806034
Lack of infrastrucutre also doesn't help.

Fractured Germany already had roads and cities and dedicated farms for millennia and setting up stuff wasn't from the ground up.

Doing shit in Brazil with only 5 centuries of setup is a lot harder.

>>76806136
Explain Argentina and Uruguay then

>>76806131
Your phone has a time machine?

'Murka-chan, how have you not co-opted this yet?

>>76806131
>>76806131
There are more Spics in the US than there have ever been in US history. The fuck are you talking about?

>>76806171
Argentina is a grade A failure.
Uruguay is small and has less population than the city I live in.

>>76806171
His comment literally applies more to them

>>76805874
>They all speak Spanish (except Brazil)

there are also english, dutch and french speaking countries in latin america, dude.

>>76806259
Italy isn't Iberian though

>>76806223
>why there are more humans on earth? Last decade there were only 3m, now there are 6m, its like if people were reproducing
>reee i want my redneck life back again
Fuck off m8, the net mexican migration is negative now, you're only getting central americans now, worse than filthy provincianos tbqh, this is what you get from playing Tropico in banana republics

>>76806107
Nobody gives a fuck about the US nowadays lol

>>76806417
I can't wait to deport your people to hell.

I know a border patrol agent who let some illegal die after denying her Spic medication for her heart.

He said he felt nothing when that happened. That's how most of us feel about Spics

>>76806223
the migration problem happened 23 years ago back when your subsidized corn completely destroyed the Mexican agriculture sector.
My best guess is that you are not old enough to post in this board let alone old enough to remember the incredible economic depression we endured for years back in 1994.

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>>76806337
>He felt for the Argentinia is Italian meme

>>76806477
t. Edgy insignificant neckbeard larping as world leader

Americans (including chicANOS) are the worst posters in 4chan

>>76806490
And since then, you people have been breeding like rabbits and are now 16% of the US population.

And your kids never become American. And their grandkids never become American

We aren't some shithole that needs immigrants to survive.

>>76806590
they aren't mexicans either, they have citizenship, take care of the problem yourself Tyrone.

>>76806590
>We aren't some shithole that needs immigrants to survive.

>>76806477
It was probably the same medication as everywhere else.

>>76806570
Mexico has been independent for 4/5ths the time the US has been independent. Mexico is nowhere NEAR 4/5ths the country the US is.

>>76806705
It's about 1/5 the land mass.

>>76806705
whatever makes you sleep at night familia, mexicans were still fighting religious maniacs in our own soil back in 1926.
We're shit but we're not shit for magic meme reasons or because we have committed into destroying your country, I know the simple narrative is always nice to hear because it gives your life a little more meaning, but swallowing much of that shit makes you a brain dead /pol/tard that preaches on accomplishments that weren't made by himself.
Take a book, there's just way too many information nowadays to just keep being a sheep in your own twisted echo chamber.

>>76805512
I know what we're all waiting for

Which one of these Spanish speaking hellholes is the worst?

>>76805965
Argentina in the '30s was the 7th world economy

>>76806522
>30. Rossi

That doesn't sound Spanish at all

>>76806139
>3rd european economy
>Shit ties

La dimostrazione di quanto sia superiore l'educazione e la conoscenza del mondo contemporaneo latinoamericana

>>76806888
que tal mi hermano chicano?

>>76806490
indeed. my parents didn't go to school and were from one of the poorest mountain villages in their region.

>>76807121
Well that makes Argentina Italian now then

>>76807121
Rossi is the textbook north-central italian surname and is the 1st in the national ranking

1)- Rossi
2) Russo (southern italian for Rossi)
3) Ferrari
4) Romano
5) Gallo
6) Costa
7) Marino
8) Ricci
9) Esposito
10) Fontana

>>76807245
pizza bene bambini

>>76806522
It trips me out that Argentina has a dish called "Milanesa a la Nepolitana"

The fuck? Those are two different places

>>76807317
milanesa is breaded meat. so its breaded meat in the neopolitan style. I mean, new york style pizza, chicago style hot dog... whats it matter

>>76807022
In the present moment, Venezuela

>>76807317
If you took a Milanese to Naples and asked him to cook, what would he make?

>>76805512

>Bad work ethic, the people that work hard enough to make things better don't get the opportunities to improve their lives because of the people around them and so move to other countries causing Brain Drain.

>Hard for businesses to grow because banks, law courts etc. are so fucking inefficient.

>Overall shitty culture, people think politicians deserve free shit on top of their high salaries because they've done small things to improve poor people's lives so they don't do anything to stop corruption, people get taxed highly which stops businesses growing but the tax money goes to politician's pockets instead of being spent on infrastructure

>No competitiveness, Anglos and other Northern Europeans seem to be driven by a desire to be better than their peers even if there's no financial reward. Hispanics seem to be happy with being mediocre.


Basically Latin America is like Spain except the bad things are 10x worse.

>>76807245
What the hell I always thought Russo, Romano, Gallo, Costa, Fontana, and Marino were Spanish surnames. I've met a lot of people with those surnames.

>>76807317
Milanese is just breaded chicken breast with lemon, i don't know what ''alla napoletana'' is, but a lot of ''italian'' dishes popular abroad here doesn't exist (like Pepperoni, Chicken Alfredo, Spaghetti and meatball, etc.).

>>76806522
>Blanco is a common surname
jfasjfiasjjkiojmioahokaopha

>>76807455
SInce castillian and standard italian are close and even intelligible both written and spoken, i'm not surprised we share common surname with probabily the same meaning.

And for Argentina is difficult to tell if they're spanish or italian surnames, althoug i think they're mostly castillian since many immigranst hispanicized their surnames

>>76807455
They work in both languages... well dialects I suppose.

Red, Roman, Rooster (Cox would probably be the English equivalent), Coast, Fountain, and Sea?

>>76807423
You pretty much nailed it, I will use your comment in the future. It's just too true, at least for my country.

>>76805512
Different models of colonization led to different levels of development. That and a lot of other factors (geography, native population, inmigraation, other countries influences, etc) led to things tourning out differently.
As much as /int/ and other radically ideological people, there's not single thing that could explain why a country or culture or race are they way they are. Things aren't that simple.
>>76806522
Wouldn't it be that those surnames were present during colonial times, when most spaniards came from two or three places (i've heard that most come from Andalucía) so ten or so surnames became really popular because everyone had those, whereas italian inmigrants all came from different places and had different surnames, meaning that no single surname could became popular?
Those surnames are really popular too here in Ecuador, and i assume that's the same in other hispanic countries.
I think a better way to demosntrate if the argentinians are italians would be a genetic investigation, whic have already been done in the past and it showed that they indeed have a lot of italian ancestry.

>>76805512
>hot women
>great cuisine
>western culture
>christian
>not politically correct
>no mudslimes
>niggers adapt to culture, and don't live life believing "WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIET"
Sounds pretty liveable to me

>>76807630
Marino is literally ''Seaborn'' or ''from the sea''

>>76805965
>it got a lot of Italians.
That's actually what ruined it. I'm not even memeing

>>76805874
>Americans share a language with niger
Well now everything adds up.

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>>76806303
>english
>dutch
>latin america

>>76807455
>Costa
>Fontana
>Marino
Those are also Spanish. So are Romero and a lot more.

>>76807703
Explains why they're so salty.

>>76805512
Gran Colombia would probably be a pretty good country.

>>76807955
The most liveable countries in Latin America these days are probably are Uruguay and Chile, and imo it's because being smaller countries means politicians don't get away with being corrupt as much.

>>76807955
It would be probably be just a bigger shithole

>>76807555
That makes sense although in our capital we do have a lot of people of Italian descent so some of them might have had Italian blood. My ex girlfriend had an Italian surname. There is this qt in my class which surname sounds very Italian, too.(Procarioni).

>>76807630
Gallo and Costa are definitively Spanish words that could be literally translated to Italian.

>>76807905
They sound badass desu, now we need to talk about those basque surnames...

>>76805512
I don't understand why all these places have different accents when the same people conquered them

>>76807636
Go ahead and use it, it's all yours my friend :^)

>>76808259
>They sound badass desu, now we need to talk about those basque surnames...
Humble reminder that the most common spanish surname, García, is actually basque

>>76808259
Plus, people emigrate constantly.

I have an English surname, but it's by way of the Netherlands, South Africa, Finland, and finally Scotland. Go figure, it means boat-man.

My mother's maiden name means "Russian". There haven't been Russians in her family for a similar length of time.

>>76808259
¿Anduviste con una Rusconi?

Yo anduve con una Lenchoni.

>>76807685
60% of Argentinians have Italian ancestry, so the majority of them have indeed some Italian blood in them, but that doesn't mean they're Italian, of course. Although of course Italians immigrants definitively caused some cultural changes when they went there.

>>76805512
well, my country got shat on by the revolution in the 80's, political corruption on all scales doesn't help at all and people are too selfish to actually help to improve the country

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>>76805512

>>76808586
Rare.

>>76808449
Indeed. But trying to disprove if they are italians or not with the popularity of surnames wouldn't be accurate.

>>76808681
>Mongolia and Botswana
Wow, impressive. Also, weird that the Isle of Man doesn't have it.

>>76808681
China and Vietnam don't have universal health care?

>>76808719
i barely post in here, i mostly go to /a/ and /sp/, and very few people know english in here so there is that too

>>76808332
Noice!

>>76808371
My surname is Garcia lel not a bad sounding surname, but I was talking more about basque surnames like "Gainza", "Echenagucias", "Goia", "Zuluaga", "ondoro", "Zúñiga". People here always make fun of people with surnames like those. Shiettttt

>>76808389
That's true my leaf friend

>>76808440
Nah el apellido de ella era Colato. También conocí a una que era de la familia Cristiani, pero ahí estaba apuntando demasiado arriba de mi clase social kek

>>76807760
Do you realize how many "niggers" share Spanish and Portuguese language with you and Portugal? A fuck ton.

>>76809065
It'll happen when you take over the world.

>>76809065
funnily enough only one country in Africa speaks spanish, and it's one of the smallest

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>>76807423

so wrong.

People really hate politicians, they don't think they deserve anything.

Also opening a business in several Sudaca countries is much easier than in most of the World.

It's not about work ethic, it's about the sophistication of the economic process. It's normal for people here to work very hard for many hours but they aren't producing added value, or there is not enough infrastructure.

>>76809182
There are a shit ton of Africans in South America though. I mean doesn't Brazil alone have a fuck ton of them?

>>76809065
How the fuck is America culturally close to Niger because both countries happen to speak english. Languages don't mean shit, that was my point. Argentina and Mexico barely have anything in common.

>>76809243
Brazil speaks portuguese, not spanish, in the rest of latam mestizo is the largest demographic, so yeah, not a lot of niggers speak spanish

>>76809299
Who said anything about Niger?

>>76805512
They're full of Mexicans.

>>76809299
Argentina and Mexico are obviously somewhat close in many aspects. Just look at cinema, tv or music, many Argentinian actors and musicians became popular in Mexican media and viceversa.

>>76805512
Because they're not protestants

>>76810213
wat

>>76807905
>>76808259
>>76807245
Is ''Valerio'' Spanish, Italian or Portuguese surname?

>>76811345
probably all of them.

but it does sound more italian than anything.

>>76805512
If you really want to know, read the history of any of the countries and you'll see why.

>>76806303
>Brazilian education

>>76805512
China has existed since ancient era and is a shithole, what's your point?

>>76809402
Stop posting your cringy collage

>>76811998
>>76807889
he's talking about the map, you know?

>>76812053
Do NOT ever talk shit about China, sudaca faggot.

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>>76805512
because when ever they get close

>>76811998
French is a romance language though

>>76811915
Just read it.

Hmm, so it seems they were all magnificently incompetent and short-sighted. The more you know

>>76809186
That looks like a Pacific Alliance vs. Mercosur divide

>>76812309
China is shit and you are shit

>>76812340
Dutch isn't
but Antilles (both dutch and british) are always "Lateen Ammuricka hurr durr" because why would people bother applying their own rules?

>>76812494
>Paraguay calling anyone shit
You're like the worst shithole in South America

>>76805512
Criollo corruption, a trait inherited and perpetuated through the perfidious iberian blood, is a serious problem and hurdle between this place and the possibility to reach an acceptable standard of living.

Racists here blame poc for it but these places were under then hands of Europeans for centuries. It's getting better now that more people are being included and people are getting out of poverty. The most powerful people and most corrupt are still those who descend from the rich landowners and slave owners. Fuck off with your racist bullshit.

>>76806303
>english
>dutch
They are not part of Latin america, dude.

>>76812576
This

>>76812642
this

>>76807734
Random question: Thoughts on Allende?

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>>76812559
but my country is not as worse as China

>>76812731
How.does it feel to be the last cucked ""country"" in Latin America?

>>76812576
They were mostly better off under european control but then independence movements began and they turned to shit. Also, you sound very american. Are you using proxy?

>>76812895
>Beijing dodges some of it
Interesting

>>76813093
>CSI Denmark

>>76807022
Venezuela

>>76805512
Ignorance

>>76813093
Bullshit. In the case of Brazil who do you think got in power after the monarchy ended? It was still the descendants of Europeans. Look at the list of presidents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_Brazil

It was better off for the elite and rich people. It takes time to fix a country. This isn't a videogame.

>>76813013
what??

>>76814021
Are you surprised that the people who founded your country also control your country?

>>76814290
My point is racists blame poc for the country never developing, but if you look at the people who were controlling the country for a long time, you'll see that it can't be that.

>>76807493
We call anything "a la napolitana" anything with tomato sauce, ham and actual tomato.

>>76807317
>>76807367
>>76807390
>>76807493
actually it's called "a la Napolitana" because of the creator "chef", José Nápoli
https://www.thespruce.com/milanesa-napolitana-argentinian-fried-steak-3029473

>>76814513
the brazilians call it "alla parmeggiana" though. that confuses me more

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>>76814488
Well you can clearly see the white parts of Brazil are better off than the indigenous and black parts, almost at the same level as some European countries. It's widely known diversity leads to lowering of social trust which could explain why politicians, white or not, care less about their country and will screw it over for money.
I think balkanization would benefit Brazil largely

>>76815188
>as some European countries
Like which countries?

>>76815237
If we go by hdi
>federal district = hungary
>sao paulo = croatia
>santa catarina = montenegro
>parana = bulgaria
>rio grande do sul and rio de janeiro = serbia

>>76805868
/thread

>>76805874
I feel bad for Spain because Spanish went from being a white language to a non-white language, unlike French or English

>>76815644
that mediocre? i see

>>76815959
>English
>white language

>>76815969
Some states are africa tier

>>76816208
they also LOOK Africa tier, if you google them
inequality is a constant in all of South America, with the urban areas better than the countryside

>>76815188
The guys on the bottom came here in the 19th century. The richest part is that one at the southeast where you see more diversity.

Those mixed parts were also controlled by Europeans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Brazil#Sugar_Age

>>76812576
Unironically this.

A week cannot go by without us hearing about a corruption scandal involving a fucking criollo trying to steal our money

>>76815188
>Well you can clearly see the white parts of Brazil are better off than the indigenous and black parts
That may be true but you are fucking stupid ir just plain arrogant if you don't understand what he means or why what you're mentioning happens in our context.

He's trying to say that those people literally get in the way of progress for others.

They're in charge so they can decide which parts they develop and which parts they won't touch.

We have seen the same pattern here.

The only people I can think about that are not developed despite having the favor of the ruling elite are Colombian "costeños".

>>76806107
NAFTA destroyed the Mexican economy in order to bring cheap labor to the US. Blame the Jews once again.

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You travel around the southeast of Brazil and every city you arrive in, no matter how tiny or irrelevant, has a train station, sometimes in ruins, sometimes preserved, and you look around and see no tracks in sight. All of the infrastructure there was torn down to """"""""modernize"""""""""" the country and suck USA's cock for cars.

>>76816843
True. Not to mention that our kings lived in the southeast. I'm sure they wanted the region they lived in to be the most powerful one.

>>76817098
>tfw when all that freight on slow as fuck trailers could be comfortably running on railroads

>>76805868
Man, we fucked ourselves because the people here are too stupid and anti-intellectual to create a livable society.

>>76817329
that problem is everywhere in latin america

>>76806477
Damn son, nics edges you've got there, i bet they are made in america

No need to sperg out like that after being corrected with simple fact checks, you literally pulled a Trump move

>>76806590
>We aren't some shithole that needs immigrants to survive.
Damnm how diluted you have to be to even say that, not even as a fucking joke m8

>>76807229
The socioeconomic cleansing must continue, take your filthy family from huachicolville too m8

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>>76812228
>Keep posting your great collages
Okey

Venezuela used to be livable before they fell for the socialism meme.

>>76812787
Oscar Alende?

>Is another SA related bait-thread made by a CHI

I was already missing the daily dose.

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>Bolivia
>African tier economy
>Mostly pure native with almost no mestizo population
>Quechua and other native languages have been encouraged recently and they are widely spoken now
>Special laws and judiciary for native people depending on their culture, instead of using Roman Law
>Declared enemies of the west and Americanization/Europeization of the country
>Still pray to Pacha Mama and bastardized the Catholic faith

They have basically reverted to full native culture. And if Evo remains in power yet another decade it will accentuate even more.

>>76822002
Fucking Chile should give Bolivia a little bit of access to the sea.

>>76822120
They do have you ignorant monkey

>>76822228
Peru cockblocks it though, you should specify

>>76821795
It's getting sickening.

>>76810213
The only argenigger thing we have is the retaurant workforce in La Condesa, literal scum

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>>76815959
>unlike French or English

It's simple to understand why: race.

>>76825894
This. Imagine what Latin America would look like if we had been colonized by upper caste European and not the trash of the continent

mexicos ruled by spanish mutts, brazil is infested with blacks, argentina isn't white enough, bolivia has no seaports, and venezuela is communist.

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>>76815959
>unlike French or English

>>76805512
A combination of several things:

1. Extreme inequality which led to 1% owning everything while the rest lived in poverty

2. Political instability mostly due to said inequality

3. Foreign powers like the US, UK, and now China taking advantage of the situation to further rape the countries as much as possible.

4. Creation of stereotypes (memes) that depict Hispanics as lazy and corrupt.

>>76828870
China is friend, faggot, fuck off with your China propaganda, trying to act as if they're doing anything on the same level as you and the rest of the West did. Fucking cunt.

>>76829146
The Chinese are rapacious and only care about making money, they are definitely not your friend, amigo.

I'm giving you 10 more years to get your shit together or we're annexing the rest of your hellhole.

>>76829302
In that sense, you're right. Chinks are the pinnacle of subhumanity. They make you look like the most good-natured and altruistic people on earth in comparison.

I really prefer you to Chinks.

>>76807423
>>76807423
>Basically Latin America is like Spain except the bad things are 10x worse.
comparing Spain with fucking Colombia for example, are you ok man?

>>76805512
Southern Cone is livable.

>>76829520
But Colombia isn't that bad r-right?

>>76829520
You're equally corrupt.

See caso Lezo.