Helmut Kohl was buried today with an EU flag, not a German one. Why?

>>76695263
Eufags and their failed trying of creating a European federation

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>>76695263

And why are modern Germans not as cool as their ancestors?

Pic related. A cool German.

Because he and Mitterand together founded the EU. It was his biggest achievement.

>>76695263
cuckoldry, btw, what's up with that pic lmao

>>76695263
>burying a former national leader with the banner of a free trade/open border organization
is Germany even a country anymore?

>>76695263
Kohl was probably the biggest EU architect behind Mitterand, it's a little weird but I can see why they did it.

>>76695657

I can take a car and drive directly into Germany and other EU countries without being stopped by border guards.

A country without a border is not a country.

>>76695854
We have borders, they just aren't controlled. Big difference.

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>>76695935
>Big difference

>>76695657
think of it as the USA, but with more power in the hands of states.

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>>76695403
>>76695694
pretty much this
he knew that in order to reunite germany- first europe had to get united

Because he himself wanted it that way.

He was responsible for creating the European Union with Mitterand and achieving Franco-German reconciliation.

He also presided over the reunification of Germany and ultimately Europe.

I don't understand why he never won the Nobel Peace Prize.

Pretty based lad tbqh

>>76696040
We tried that once, it didn't work out so well

>>76696171
Why are the germs of /int/ such a big supporters of the EU ?

>Muh uniting Europe

Fuck you off, fag.

>>76696272
Federation is the future

>>76696040
It sounds surprising but in some(just a few though) ways EU member states are more integrated than American states.

>>76696040
>think of it as the USA
no, I won't actually, because these are nation-states with thousands of years of independent history, not Idaho.

>>76696272
I can't honestly blame them, there's a sort of logic in it from a self-interested perspective. If you're a modern European state then you're someone's pawn, without the EU it would be either the US or Russia choose your poison.

>>76696335
>nation states
>thousands of years

Top kek.

>>76696272
since we've been the outcasts of europe and now we're the top dogs, thanks to it

also, international power we wouldn't have otherwise

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>>76696272
because we benefit from the eu.
btw so does spain but who cares about facts am i right? MUH NATIONALISM

>>76696382
> it would be either the US or Russia choose your poison.
>Implying EU is not USA´s bitch

kek

>>76696302
EU will not survive much longer.

>>76696459
bad post

>>76696459
the EU isn't an USA bitch. we sued google recently and plan to have our own army.

>>76696406
wow sorry, your ancestors lived in some microscopic duchy in the HRE and therefore Germans didn't exist as a people until the 1860s.

>>76696459
Right now Merkel and Macron are actively working on creating a European army.

>>76696459
No, I agree with you actually. I'm just saying I see their reasoning even if I think they're a little deluded.
The problem with Europeans in general is excessive pride, especially about America.

>>76696459
>EU will not survive much longer.

You in 20 years:
>EU will not survive much longer.

You in 50 years:
>EU will not survive much longer.

You in 100 years:
>EU will not survive much longer.

You in 250 years:
>EU will not survive much longer.

You in 500 years:
>EU will not survive much longer.

You in 1000 years:
>EU will not survive much longer.

You in 5000 years:
>EU will not survive much longer.

Yeah, man, he should have been covered with the Nazi flag lmao like my /pol/ threads EU sucks hail Putin

>>76696494
Germany didn't exist, Germans did (under different names).

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>>76695263

The Empire rises

>>76696494
neither did most US states exist in this form until relatively recently. they've decided to centralize some matters and leave others to the the states.

the EU is a similar arrangement, but with (far) less integration.

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FUCK EU LAMO FUCK RAPEfugees PIRES KEKEKE

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>defending the jewish prison that is EU

desu I feel more european than finnish. hopefully eu integration keeps going on.

>>76696459
>"EU will not survive much longer", says increasingly nervous man for the seventh time this year.

>>76696641
>being this angry about not being able to join

>>76696567

Honestly, the EU members states are much more judicially homogeneous than the various US states in many ways.

>>76696335
Pffff, I don't even know from memory what different nation states my town was even part of. Various tiny duchys, principalities, then kingdoms, then empires, then republics. Regionalism is far stronger than nationalism in Europe.

>>76696432
>because we benefit from the eu so does Spain

We benefit by being the fucking beach of Europe meanwhile your countrymen behave like literal monkeys in Spain.

>MUH NATIONALISM

Nationalism is not bad. Not my fault if you are a cuck

>>76696486
yeah, We will still be in the NATO. As I said before USA´S bitch.

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>>76696486
EU is literally a CIA-run project and have been since its foundation. Germany is still under the marshal plan = USA occupation. But keep thinking you're in charge and that you're free you retarded Kein.

>>76696680
>yeah, We will still be in the NATO. As I said before USA´S bitch.
not really. we didn't participate in the US interventions for several centuries.

not sure about spain.

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>fucking krauts defending the kikery that is the EU
sasuga

>>76696738
You're wasting your time, most Germans and French people actually think the US was or has ever been 'anti-EU', many of them don't even understand how the EU works at all. It's an emotional thing, facts have nothing to do with it.

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>mfw EU army would make the union a military superpower
>mfw we're already an economic superpower
>mfw the EU creates close trade agreements with China instead of the US
>mfw US is an obsolete banana republic already, complete with eccentric batshit leader
Yankees on suicide watch

>inb4 assmad lards and trumpcucks

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>>76696738
>USA occupation
kc tier post tbqh

>>76696513
That is not how it works.In 500 years there is a big chance for a planetary government.
So yeah it will still be called the EU but this time it will stand for Earth Union :^)

>>76696739
We were in both, Iraq and Afganistan.

>>76696673
>in Europe
Why the fuck do you stupid krautcucks always try to speak for everyone in a continent of a billion people all the time? No, nobody gives a shit about regionalism besides you autists and the Italians. You care about it because you will get your house raided by the SJW stasi if you so much as make a fart that sounds like "Deutschland über alles" and Italians care about it because they hate each other.

Imagine if I told an American that in Europe we're all very Catholic, drink wodka, and eat kielbasa. You would think I sound like an idiot, but I have at least some self awareness.

>>76696825
Macron is pro Assad sweetie
http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-syria-frances-macron-no-sees-no-clear-successor-for-assad-2017-6?IR=T

>>76696807
>many of them don't even understand how the EU works at all. It's an emotional thing, facts have nothing to do with it.

ok, nigel

>>76696839

It will be known as the Terran Republic, learn to futurism pls

>>76696852
Deutschland über alles

>>76696807
>MUH FACTS, NO EMOTIONS
Meanwhile the entire leave campaign was bullshit upon bullshit and "MUH FLAG".

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>it's ok that brown men are raping my women stealing my jobs and bullying my kids because economic benefits

>>76696999
+5 whitey points

>>76696459
>Brexit happens.
>EU will not survive much longer.
>it will dissolve any time now.
>any time now...
>time passes...
>elections start
>all anti-EU parties fail
Are you a Brit on vacation by any chance?The tears are real, no?

>>76696852
>No, nobody gives a shit about regionalism besides you autists and the Italians.
And the French. And the Spanish. And the Balkanese. Even the Brits aren't in agreement about the UK. And you guys haven't even been a country the entire time, and you've basically moved westwards over the centuries. Half of the Ukraine is Polish, and half of Poland is German.

>>76696999
it's not, hence why the EU made a deal so you take all of the brown ppl. they blend in easier, as well.

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>western "europeans"

>>76696999
>raping muh women

And ooga booga to you too, Ahmet.

>>76696882
Quoting me and putting "OK" next to it is a waste of a post.
>>76696953
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes
I'm well aware of the failings of the political culture in this country, that being the case it doesn't magically vindicate the poor understanding of the EU (which is backed up by every major study done on popular perceptions of EU bodies) nor does it change the fact that people are staking camps out based on emotion and not on reason or facts. If anything you pointing that out only proves it further.
Washington has always been fervently pro-EU, in fact they were far more aggressively federalist than Britain was in the 50s. The Americans do not fear Europe and never have from the EEC's inception. Don't care for being the bearer of bad news but that's the truth.

>>76696842
that's your fault, it has nothing to do with EU or NATO.

Europe will not know peace until Britain and G*rmany have perished. Sic Semper Tyrannis.

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>>76696680
>We benefit by being the fucking beach of Europe

i just went to my fridge: i have tomatoes from spain, a watermelon from spain and my grapes are from spain aswell.
do you really belive spanish farmers could sell all their products without free export? do you know how mush the EU subsidys spanish farmers? do you have the slightst idea of how mush jobs are created in the process of simply moving food through europe? you have a very narrow minded worldview...

pic related LILD just boosted your economy by declaring spanish weeks

>>76696272
because we saw to what an europe of nationalists can lead

>>76697072
No, I am actually a Spaniard who is fucking tired of all the bullshit that is going on in this country. Tired how we are basically a vassal state controlled by the fucking krauts.

>>76696999
>cockroach
>not brown/shitskin
heh

>>76697079
>And the Balkanese
We don't have regionalism here, as far as I know. Maybe only in Bosnia, but that's still an ethnic thing.

>>76697087
lol
more than a million refugees live in europe, not to mention those that aren't refugees in name
we took like 50k at max or something

>>76697143
much*

>>76696893
>It will be known as the Terran Republic, learn to futurism pls
>Terran
Bah, how about United Earth?UE?
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/United_Earth

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>>76697079
Wow, did you know the USA has separatist movements too? They must be Europeans also and hate nationalism.

Kill yourself you arrogant idiot.

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>>76695263
>an EU flag, not a German one.


uuh sweetie..

>>76697143
Boomer mentality. I sincerely hope you die painfully.

>>76697180
sure? afaik it's in the millions.
what's more important, you're doing more to stop smugglers to greece.

>>76697190
your 9gag memes have no power outside of /pol/, stormfag.

>>76697163
>Tired how we are basically a vassal state controlled by the fucking krauts.
You're 4th in GDP in the EU and also 4th by number of EU parliament members. Fuck off with this vassal thing, that's something some small country could complain about.

>>76697211
>Boomer mentality

>>>https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/

>>76697163
>tired of all the bullshit that is going on in this country
>tired how we are basically a vassal state controlled by the fucking krauts
Sooo your political elite is completely innocent?Whoaaa really got my neurons firing there m8.Care for a pint so you can tell me how your politicians are angels and are doing everything in their power to do right by you?

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>>76697240
.t limpwristed nu-kraut who thinks in retarded boomer memes from facebook

>>76697240
50k is the number we took from you, we have about 3 million refugees within turkey already
>stop smugglers to greece
you literally pay for us to protect you, is this prideful?

>>76697240
that's an /int/ meme that has been posted for several years now, I would know because I made it :^)

>>76697190
>because when people are not against the EU it means they want everything in this picture!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MOMMY!!!!!!!!!!

>>76695378
Those two look like my old classmates. Good lads.

>boomer is the new alt-cuck buzzword

You """"people"""" are fucking exhausting.

>>76697163
>fucking tired of all the bullshit that is going on in this country

then engage yourself in local politics, because they're responsible for the state you're in. the EU has zero to do with economic mismanagement and corruption in the whole south.

non-EU countries such as serbia or bosnia are far, far worse off.

>>76696432
Poland ?

>>76696311
They literally aren't though.

>>76697190
There's literally nothing wrong with that picture. Europe and being European rules.

>>76697347

Well, to be fair those places also had civil wars/was bombed by NATO like yesterday.

>>76697298
do you want to talk about me, or the EU?

>>76697313
:^)

>>76695854
That applies to Denmark, too

>>76697389
FUCK YEAH EUROPE
IN SCIENCE WE TRUST
*posts picture of old church that's not even in my country*

>>76697305
now guess where that refugees would be by now, if we didn't pay you to shelter them?

it makes more sense to pay you to patrol your own borders than to patrol them for you.

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>>76697146
>all the eu shills are g*rmans

:thinking:

>>76697442
2004 was a mistake.

>>76697394
they did, but out of their own stupidity. the worst thing is that they're still eager to genocide each other deep down.

>>76697357
not eurozone, so not on the graphic
>>76697211
sorry for being a political science student who knows a thing or two about how european economies work

>>76697469
germans were asked something by the OP. may have something to do with it.

>>76697456
but smugglers are good for us
majority of syrians look for ways to go to europe, specifically western europe
they also bribe coast guards, so,
1-syrians leave turkey
2-turks earn money

it's a win win if anything

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>>76697442
>*posts picture of old church that's not even in my country*
You forgot to add a pic.Let me help you with that :^)

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>>76696428
>now we're the top dogs


youre top shit is all your are.

and your EU is failing as well

scumbag kraut motherfucker

>the absolute state of germany

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>>76696486
>the EU isn't an USA bitch

You (Germany) don't have even your own foreign policy, kiddo

>>76697524
that's exactly why we paid you, my brown friend! we basically outbid the smugglers, so it's more profitable for you to keep the fugees than to smuggle them.

good grief that erdogan will do anything for money.

>>76697545
Why can't Poland just leave EU if they hate it so much? No one's stopping you guys. Take Hungary with you pls.

>>76696830
Bernds are right there though

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g*rmanic here, g*rmanic there, kill the g*rman every where

die hans, die muhammed - you're all as good as dead

>>76697567
you're right. i've lost so many relatives in the iraq war ...

oh, wait. germans never went there.

>>76696486
>sued google

and just how did that turn out?

> plan to have our own army.

this kraut kike must be sleepwalking and dreaming on his computer

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>>76696486
>implying the EU isn't a CIA funded project and a tool of the ruling class

hmmm

>>76697642
i'm not going to read the news for you, my friend. you hopefully heard that brexit happened, so your career plans are shattered now.

>>76697567
We didn't go to Iraq and we didn't go to Libya while the Spanish and Polish lapdogs couldn't stop themselves from sucking American dick. And the Poles still haven't received visa free travel status, haha.

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>political science student

>>76697190
in fairness wars between eu and eea countries are impossible unless the eu collapses entirely

i mean look at the balkans, they love to kill each other and even they're behaving themselves

>>76697573
if you had a fucking spine you wouldn't pay them shit and let turkey do what they can, defend their own border from the other retarded ahmeds, instead you beg the brown hordes to come to your country en masse to fuck your women because birthrates and demand other countries in your "union" do the same. you realize theres around 10 other countries between you and turkey right?

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>>76697211
>lacks arguments
>gets offensive

>>76697573
>paying money to somebody else to stop the brown men for you
>not just ousting them yourself by force
hans, are you missing the point?

>>76697688
whatever you shitbag on two legs

>>76697684
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/

>>76697715
top lel.
the netherlands were one of the two countries to design the turkey deal.

>>76697146
>because we saw to what an europe of nationalists can lead

To the greatest empires and the greatest technologic and scientific discoveries in human history?


We were really better under Franco´s dictatorship. A shame He did not build nukes though He could have let our scientist do it, that would have saved the regime.

>Not being the North Korea of Europe

Feels bad


>>76697296
>>76697347
Our politics do what Brussels tell them to do. Not even joking. Those fuckers even changed the fucking constitution and make the payment of the debt a contitutional duty WITHOUT ASKING US.

>>76697642
>spreading hate
>spreading misinformation
You sound like a putinbot.
Are you a putinbot m8?
I have to remind myself that there are propaganda Russian bots swarming the internet every day.

>>76697731
this is related to what i said, how exactly?

>>76697737
fuck you too asshole


hows that for hate?


hmmm assshole?

>>76696852
absolutely told

>>76697720
you have three times as many refugees as we do, so why aren't you doing the same?

>>76697726
i thereby accept your argumentative capitulation.

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>>76697630
Iraq?

Fucking lol, it's not just about Iraq AND you couldn't even have done that because Germany can not do weapon things anymore.

>>76696494
People forget that the designated Kaiser was allways King of the Germans after he got voted by the Electors and before he got crowned by the Pope.

Thr Kaiser was allways the King of the Germans, stop spouting these memes.

And this is the oldest proper state stuff, identity is older.

>>76697733
So why are you keeping them in power?
If you don't like them you don't elect them.
You live in a democracy, right?

Also is it possible that you are in the minority?
Or the even smaller minority of Russian funded putinbots?

>>76697748
you used the "you" pronoun whenever describing the turkey deal, but you should've been used "us" instead, because the netherlands were co-engineers.

>>76697787
refugees don't get benefits here lad
if they commit a crime they get lynched, not encouraged

i really wish we could go back to the early 2000s form of EU

>>76697822
This guy is not a native Dutch person.

>>76697811
not colluding in a single US intervention (in contrast to other european countries) proves that germany has a mind of it's own, and i could name many other aspects.

>>76697831
Turkey is more sane than these kraut idiots.


This is why I have more respect for Turks than these fucking jerrys

>>76697887
that's exactly why polish women go to turkey every year

because they have more respect for turks than for polacks

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>>76697811
> because Germany can not do weapon things anymore.

so what are we doing in afghanistan right now and in yugoslavia some years back?

>>76697764
A very constructive and elegant reply there m8.

Sooo are you paid by the Russian government to spread hate distrust and misinformation on international forums in order to rise the tension and to destabilize countries from the inside?

>>76697878
The Americans have never ruled Europe with an iron fist and contrary to what German and French politicians like to believe, their policy planners are far more skilled than they give them credit for.

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>>76695263
He was not, tho.

>>76697733
>WITHOUT ASKING US.

you're free to elect another government. but you didn't even manage to do that and had a hung parliament instead.

brussels has zero to do with it.

>>76697859
>i really wish we could go back to the early 2000s form of EU
How old were you then?

>>76697878
germany isn't important enough to aid in military interventions anyway

you're important to the eu and europe, but on a global scale you're irrelevant (unless factored into the eu as a whole)

>>76697908
lolwhat
I met like 10 polish people ever in turkey
thousands of germans though

>>76697908
lol I dont care

Im greek anyways you fucking jerry moron

>>76697919
oh yeah that's right. that was what we were talking about. i remember.

>>76697878
>makes sure that germany will probably never again fire a weapon*

>>76697926
He wasn't even born.I am guessing that he was -3 years old.

>>76697926
in my teens

>>76695935
One of Transylvania's borders is not controlled
Transylvania is not considered a country though

>>76697912
>so what are we doing in afghanistan right now

How many talibans kills Germans? Or you only "eating your pork" on your bases?

>>76697915
i know we germans should be very grateful for many things the US did for is in the past.

it still doesn't mean we collude with each and every neocon "liberation" plan for the middle east.

>>76697820
>So why are you keeping them in power?
I voted for the far-right. The fags of my country are unable to grow a pair of balls and join the second national crusade.

>You live in a democracy, right?

Democracy is a lie like communism. It always fails. It failed before in Spain, It will fail again and then we will have to rebuild our nation from the ashes because some faggots believed in that utopia called democracy.

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>>76695263
Because Germany isn't a nation anymore.
Sieg heil, motherfucker, sieg heil.

>>76697955
it's well known that slavs go to turkey

how would you even know where they are from? you wouldn't talk to them and you wouldn't know which language they are speaking

>>76697956
no you arent, you are a slavshit

>>76697934
i would say we're moderately relevant, since we're still the 4th biggest economy.

but that's actually another argument for the EU. on our own, we're becoming smaller each year.

>>76695263
Press S to spit on his grave.

S

>>76698032

ok Im a slavshit just for you stupid ass jerry motherfucker

>>76697966
What? He was not burried in an EU flag.

/thread

>>76698032
%90 of slavs here are russian
we communicate using this magical invention the lingua franca lad,
it's easy to tell polish, german and russian apart, are you retarded?

>>76698048
S

>>76698048
w-what
merchant what is your plan

>>76698091
You don't talk to them though lol why are you even pretending to do that?

especially YOU wouldn't be able to differentiate between polish, czech, or south slavic languages

>>76697190
Austria-Hungary failed because Hungarians are too blinded by their own arrogance and sense of superiority to be competent rulers
Also because of Serbs violent terrorist savages

>>76697993
transylvanian independence when?

>>76698032
>it's well known that slavs go to turkey
You need to be very careful with what you say there.
>>76698054
>ok Im a slavshit just for you stupid ass jerry motherfucker
Now i am 100% sure that you are not Polish or even a slav for that matter.

>>76698126
If it were up to me, I would kill the EU and everyone who runs it. Also all adult Germans just to be safe.

>>76697997
I never said you had to be grateful for anything, I am saying that it's typical for politicians on the Continent to imagine refusing to help in a military operation is some brash and bold expression of political independence. It's cheap and shallow gesturing that amounts to nothing and in the sum of it totally misreads the American political climate and the American attitude towards Europe. Take a look at the leaked diplomatic cables if you want an idea of how they think of you.

>>76698169
Hopefully soon

>>76697995
56 german soliders died in afghanistan yet.
i got no numbers the other way around, however considering that we got ISAF at our back they probably have a little bit more losses to moan

>>76698139
what makes you think I don't ever talk to them?
I only ever get czech and polish mixed up lol, if you confuse polish with serbian you know shit about languages

>>76695263
They believe that individually our countries will quickly fall from world dominance, they want us to be "Europeans", no Spain, France, Germany, just "Europe".

Killing our cultures is a first step.

>>76698199
good, it looks so much nicer than the rest of romania. mental that its considered the same country.

>>76698210


thats 56 less subhumans and not bloody nearly enough


here's hoping Afghanis bomb more of your to make it up.

>>76697715
>syrians are turks' problem xde

When real coup happens and erdogan got hanged we will send them to europe. You can keep them in your wives bedroom.

>>76698189
well, continental europe generally perceives american politics to be anti-intellectual on domestic issues and destructive in foreign issues. and, honestly, i'd agree with it.

the US have been unable to manage something as basic as reducing health care costs or gun crime for centuries. in the middle east, their best buddy (Saudi-Arabia) is a driving factor in both ongoing conflicts.

>>76697913
>Sooo are you paid by the Russian government to spread hate distrust and misinformation on international forums in order to rise the tension and to destabilize countries from the inside?
Yes
t.fsb

>>76698327
>when real coup happens
:^)

>>76698220
What will be the language of the 'unified' Europe?

I guess Germans want to push German as one.

>>76698348
I knew it.
t.HCБOБ

>>76698273
it's been 72 years. jesus. just calm down man

>>76698327
>implying you want those hordes travelling to your country just cause
>implying there still arent 10 other countries between them and me if you do

>>76698189
arf arf, who's a good lapdog oh yes you are

>>76698327
>When real coup happens
you and i will be dead by then. thanks to his ever-obedient turk serfs, he removed the possibility of a regime change for good.

>>76698442
through*

>>76698442
No idea why anyone speaks with the roaches at all.
Just tell Erdoroach to get fucked and close the EU borders. Why would we care if they sit in south or north T*rkey?

>>76698220
>Killing our cultures is a first step.
In what way is the EU "killing our cultures"?

>>76698514
lmao
(((they))) decide what's gonna happen or not
and (((they))) want to flood Europe with brownies, not Turkey

>>76698523
hi

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>>76698404
>What will be the language of the 'unified' Europe?
I actually have a great idea.All European languages will be made mandatory in every country and spread equally amongst the population.That way 1/26th of the population will be learning Bulgarian as a second language,another 1/26th will be learning Greek etc. and for an official language we create a new synthetic language that is needed as a third language in school.

Am i a genius or what?

the anti-eu putinbots and /pol/ sheep were absolutely BTFO in this thread

what a pleasant sight

>>76698565
And "(((they)))" let us pay the Roach to keep rapefugees out, but do not let us keep them out?

>>76698619
P.S. inb4 esperanto...
esperanto sucks ass

>>76698446
Have you managed to add anything remotely constructive this entire thread? Do you even understand what is I'm trying to tell you?

>>76698724
>This Kraut actually thinks this

Ay lmaooo.

>>76698724
inb4 /pol/tards flood the thread with memes

>>76698727
>germans want to keep brownies out
lolnope
looking at any medium of social media will reveal to you that most normies think having refugees is a good idea and they should do it

that's not the case in turkey, even hardcore AKP supporters can be seen to hate syrians, not even mentioning the rest

>>76698724
This. Keep up the good fight my fellow Europeans!

>>76698917
We will fellow European!

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>>76698724
I wonder if Nazies were like this back in late 1930's. Such deluded people about to wreck a fucking continent.

Really, was it like this?

>>76698917
>>76698946
yes yes we Europeans should support and stand with each other

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>>76698946
>>76698917
Well done my gender neutral comrades! Join us in the fight in the frontlines! Please!

>>76698818
No. Most people are against taking in rapefugees as newer polls show.
Funny enough the disapproval is higher in west Germany by now.

>>76699126
that can only be good I guess.

>>76699163
Since Merkel has literally no own opinion and does what ever she thinks will give her some more votes, yes, absolutely.

>>76699088
>fetishizing of European identity

Wait are you trying to pull a fast one on me my fellow European?

>>76699088
>i jerk every night to the EU flag
NOOOOOO!!!!THIS IMAGE IS FULL OF LIES!!!

>>76697733
To two world wars

>>76699729
>Implying World wars are a bad thing
>Implying Science does not advance much faster in times of war

War is in our nature, you fag.

>>76698186
because of the holocaust?

>>76699800
you're free to go to syria, suicidal edgelord

>>76698048
S

>>76699800
>Implying Science does not advance much faster in times of war
what scientific discoveries has the syrian war brought us?

>>76699800
>wars are good
You are free to go to any active warzone on the planet right now.There is one in Syria, a few in Africa.

>>76697143
>that shit
>pata negra or paella

this is why germans must be genocided

>tortilla

Nigga, that's just potatoes, onion and eggs, they could have been made in china for all I know

>>76700209
thanks to EU regulation, local brands enjoy protection, and chinese can't sell copies of spanish food within the EU

>>76699870
>>76699965
>>76700138
You are just a bunch of faggots like all the EUfags.

>>76696171
fuck off cuck

>>76695263
European leaders want to pimp Kohl to make it seem like Europe has united future, politicans of today like merkel put a wedge between former communist nations and the south and the North. I mean I guess it's important for a German. But I seriously doubt if a Portuguese, a Finn, or a Cypriot gives a shit about this.

>>76700324
i thereby accept your argumentative capitulation

>>76700324
There is was happening right now oh manly man of men.What are you doing in peaceful Spain when you can have war in Syria?

Just go and be a manly man on the battlefield.

>>76700369
germany + france + italy is 60+% of the eu's gdp

it's mostly about our unification, since we used to genocide each other. the rest is pretty much tagging along.

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>>76696486
Delusional Germ
If the US turns even indifferent to the EU, the EU collapses, lol.

>>76700273
>implying

The EU works so well that 30% of italian olive oil is made using spanish olives.

>>76699860
No, because Germans are delusional nutjobs who will destroy a perfectly good continent for no reason.

>>76700485
proof?

>>76700473
we already have an isolationalist president.

where's the collapse?

>>76700459
>germany + france + italy is 60+% of the eu's gdp
>the rest is pretty much tagging along
If you really think that way you should try and see how a union just with germany+france+italy will fare on the world stage.Arrogance and ignorance will be your undoing.

>>76700528
but no hard feelings about the holocaust?

>>76700473
Why are American women so fucking ugly?

>>76700576
I don't blame modern Germans for crimes of past Germans. It is stupid to do so. I blame modern Germans for the crimes of modern Germans.

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>>76700209
pff next you will tell me this is not 100% authentic american food

but without kidding the spanish bullshit is actually produced in spain. but you are right- buying the tortilla would be pretty fucking stupid.

>>76700545
>US president = state policy

>>76696486
"we sued google"
wow, look at the big boy with his big boy pants

>>76700485
italy is not china

>>76700673
that's my point. not even an isolationist populist made the US truly cut ties with the EU

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>>76700558
>union just with germany+france+italy will

>>76700706
So you're admitting that you have no idea what genuine indifference from the US would look like, then?

>>76700687
sucking monopolist corporate dick being tradition in the US doesn't mean we'll do the same

>>76700599
so taking refugees is a crime bigger than holocaust?

>>76700733
>So you're admitting that you have no idea what genuine indifference from the US would look like, then?
It will look like Canada :^)

>>76700746
No, but as I say, I don't hold people responsible for the actions of their ancestors.

>>76696040

>more power in the hands of states

You mean in the EU??

What power? almost everything decided in Brussels or Germany

>>76695979
neekereiden tähden - mä samaa unta nään
neekereiden tähden - en tyydy vähempään

>>76700733
no advanced country, with exception of the US itself possibly, could continue to exist in total isolation. i admit that.

but it won't happen, since the US prefer to have our products as well.

>>76700746
for your people, yes

>>76700787
top lel

was brexit decided in brussels too?

>>76699002

I'm not Nazi but it's usually the leftists who lack content

Tell teen some fact, they call you a Nazi

>>76700871
Yes, when the UK PM demanded the EU stop taking in migrants and allow the UK to control its border, the EU said no. Giving British people no choice but to leave the EU.

>>76700397
>What are you doing in peaceful Spain when you can have war in Syria?

I do not care about a bunch of filthy muslims. It is not worthy figthing for that. Althought, Spain is about to be in a civil war. It is not a hidden secret.

>>76700784
but you said you would kill all germans for taking refugees, right?
i would imagine you would have punished the germans in 1945 the same way, wouldn't you?

>>76700930
the uk already controls its border, my hook-nosed friend. inform yourself what the EU is and what it isn't, pls.

>>76699088

"White priviledge" ain't real

Whites (in general) just do some things better

Like save their money, wich helps them a lot

>>76700952
I would kill most Germans now because most Germans fully support your government, a government dedicated to ending western civilisation.

>i would imagine you would have punished the germans in 1945 the same way
Most of them.

>>76700992
It has no controls over migrants coming from the EU.

>>76701011
>It has no controls over migrants coming from the EU.

ah, the common market. you're right, they wished to leave that.

>>76701011
>a government dedicated to ending western civilisation.

you got issues

>>76701104
Your nation has issues and it should answer for them.

>>76701011
same punishment implies the crimes were equally bad

>>76701011
tolerance, egalitarianism and humanism are an essential part of western tradition. western thought encompasses both views on the refugee crisis - the left-wing and the right wing one.

>>76700871

I don't know is BREXIT even real, but Germans want's to wreck Britain just because someone want's to leave
(maybe BREXIT was is away to tighten the control, because Anti-EU movement's wouldn't continue so much after Britain's destiny?)

Kind of facist

>>76701000
White privileges are very real
Fins and other POC are or were opressed by whites

I would like to point out that the UK was the only country in the EU that truly respected freedom of movement in 2004 and didn't ask for special privileges. Quite interesting seeing some of the rhetoric we get on here from states that will talk about free movement and consistency a lot but bottle up when push comes to shove.
Germany and France had some of the strictest opt-outs by far btw.

>>76701167
you're right, we never wanted brexit to happen. neither did the other 26 EU countries. it still happened. proving your assumption that countries don't decide their fate wrong.

i don't want to debate the consequences of brexit, that's another topic.

>>76701136
Not really, the punishment is not a moral punishment, but merely a way to protect innocent people.

>>76701163
>tolerance, egalitarianism and humanism are an essential part of western tradition
Those are ideas of Communist absolutists which have more in common with autocrats of the east than anywhere in the west.

>>76701132
true, our population is getting older and we got an massiv export surplus.
still don't see how this affects western civilization

>>76698619
this is genius

if you ever had a doubt about Bulgaria's place in the EU, read this post

>>76701189
it's truly ironic that you were the strongest proponent of the eastward enlargement of the EU. and now you leave over it.

>>76698048

I spit on Peres' and Sharon's grave instead

S

>>76701238
>Those are ideas of Communist absolutists
wat.

humanism = italian renaissance movement
egalitarianism = french revolution
political correctness = US civil right movement

the soviet union and china had a long history of repressing minorities, on the contrary.

>>76701275
Germans are arrogant, sociopathic and seek to destroy other European states and subjugate them to your will. Your people support these policies whole heartedly. You also want to turn Europe into an Islamic state along with the French leadership, and that makes you a direct threat to my country.

>>76701163
>tolerance, egalitarianism and humanism are an essential part of western tradition

What about when you bring people here who don't support those.

I'm not judgemental towards them or anyone as people, but liberal blindness is unbelievable

>>76701368
i don't support this kind of immigration, either.
but many germans do, that's a fact.

>>76701275
JUST BUILD FUCKING ROBOTS AND TAX EM.
Also, if your socialist cuck babyboomer goverment made the people save for their retirement, you wouldn't need to import millions of refugees to "pay" their retirement. Hope their employement rates look better than 20%.

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>>76701339
do you know what provable facts are?

>>76701292
It's more ironic that German politicians live in a fantasy world where Britain was a problem child and yet ring dead silent about the many privileges and special exemptions they asked for from their own laws

Probably the greatest statesman of post war Europe. Oversaw re-uniting Germany and creating EU as we know it. Even if you hate what he did you can at least admit he got shit done.

I hate many things about the EU, but I do think it made the lives of Europeans better. At least until recently. Maybe the 2009 financial crisis was a turning point. Maybe the recent refugee-swarm.

>>76701284
We should write to the EU parliament and give them my plan.

>>76701182

Yes Finns have been oppressed, everyone has, we don't whine about it like Black Lives Matter

Give me example of those White priviledges

>>76701334
>egalitarianism
Actually first origins of this are in extreme Zoroastrian sect in Persia which descended Persia into chaos until people stepped in and murdered the leadership of the sect and ordered a general purge of it.

>political correctness
Comes from the autocrats of the East, you could never question them and if they said the moon was made of cheese it was or death.

>humanism
Worship of man is Babylonian.

>the soviet union and china had a long history of repressing minorities, on the contrary.
Germany is repressing entire nations.

Western philosophy comes from the Greeks.

>>76701409
Yes, something that everyone except delusional Germans has observed.

>>76701424
well now you are out of the union and will no longer suffer the german opression

>>76701432
Yeah, if we only took care of europeans, but no!! just fuck my shit up senpai

>>76701424
you made the largest show out of it. "i want my money back" thatcher, or "let me negotiate some additional benefits" cameron.

we have the euro and schengen, you don't.

>>76695263
This really triggered me as well

>>76701432
as if the refugee crisis would be any better without the EU, if greece, italy and austria had to deal with them on their own. don't delude yourself.

>>76701472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdVRlM-kSx8

>>76701424
not the german you were arguing with, but:

>many privileges and special exemptions they asked for from their own laws

could be an intresting point- i actually can't recall any german exemptions.. would you mind naming them?

>>76701534
If they could deal with them on their own they could just shut them out and leave them to drown like they should have.

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>>76701534
just stop the boats bro

>>76696432
>because we benefit from the eu

Germans really are cucks. Don't dare have their own nationalism any more, so they've replaced it with the EU (aka the German superstate)

>>76701534
The push factors would still be in place.
The pull factor might not have been as strong if it wasn't possible to move northward as easily from said countries.

>>76701488
>Yes, something that everyone except delusional Germans has observed.

but what about proof, sources, facts? or are just keep giving us "alternative facts"?

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>>76701534
>stop a few boats
>people dont get into EU
>boats stop coming
>help them where it matters
>they solve their shit out
It's not some ancient alien theory or rocket science.

>>76701619
Nothing I have said is alternative facts. Everything is well known and standard view of the world.

>>76701488
oh, and the first human was found in ethiopia. so everything is ethiopian, then? you can ridicule anything by tracing it back too far.

modern western thought (1400+) is what made the west what it is today and what differentiates it from non-western parts of the earth.

>>76701606
>Don't dare have their own nationalism any more, so they've replaced it with the(...) German superstate

umm and that is a stupid thing to do for germany?

>>76701544
Surprisingly no proper answer

Maybe they aren't real

>>76701670
>oh, and the first human was found in ethiopia
http://www.history.com/news/did-the-first-human-ancestor-emerge-in-europe-not-africa

http://www.newsweek.com/first-hominin-europe-east-africa-human-evolution-613494

Why is German education so bad?

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>>76701665
>Everything is well known and standard view of the world.

well said, nice facts

>>76701570
>>76701663
>>76701566
say that to italy/greece.

they constantly ask for EU help, since they literally drown in immigrants.

>>76701728
Italy asked for the right to turn them away, which the EU then started fining them for so they had to let them in.

>>76701709
you know exactly what i meant. we wouldn't be what we are without any part of the world, but what makes the west the west is modern western thought, not persian religion.

>>76701770
>modern western thought
Which is not what you are talking about. Those ideas you named are not western, they are not liberal, they are totalitarian imports from Asia.

>>76701749
nah. they demanded help in re-location.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/italy-close-ports-humanitarian-refugee-ships-saturation-point-migrant-boats-rafts-mediterranean-a7814121.html

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This thread is gold.

Love to see all this gib mon€y but fuck the EU butthurt

>>76696432
>we
the people actually don't profit much

>>76701728
>EU has nothin to do with this!!!
fuck off to merkel with your refugees welcome bullshit

>>76701822
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/no-welcome-for-refugees-as-italy-turns-boat-away-2242923.html

Back in 2011. Why do Germans attempt to rewrite history to justify your regimes actions?