RUSSIA CALLS HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH "AN EASY TARGET"

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A FUCKING RAMP

>>76617883
Explain the ramp meme to me, why is it better if it doesn't has one?

>>76617972
looks better

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Where did it all go so wrong?

>>76617972
Slingshot looks less stupid

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arent large things easy targets in general?

>>76618753
Yes. I know from experience :(

>>76618753
this
basically any carrier+group(optional) is nothing but a target that can be defeated by AShM spam

Russkis are all talk. Nothing new.

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>>76618906
>Russia couldn't singlehandedly-destroy UK in a week
TOP KEK ANGLO PIG SHIT!!! Oh believe you me, us Russians are ITCHING for a war with UK. We will fucking ANNIHILATE your dirty country. There wouldn't be a square meter of British soil that has running water, electricity, or petrol that isn't on fire, once our airforce and navy is done bombarding your defenseless country. Then, our army boys (we'd send the chechens and other mongrel races first) would swoop in, raping your women, and killing EVERY British pig shit they see. When Russia's done with you, we will have committed acts of genocide. Of course no one is gonna do shit about it

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>>76619019
wtf i love russia now !

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>>76617841
reminder: we ordinary russian people have nothing to do with those criminal tyrants in kremlin (russian government).
when America with its Nato ally finally comes to liberate us please remember it. we are not your enemies

glory to Nato! glory to the UK! glory to America!

>>76619019
fuck off Ahmed

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>>76617841
>The Russian military mocked Britain's new aircraft carrier

The Russian military shouldn't be mocking anyone's aircraft carrier

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>>76619169
>>76619142

>>76617972
Something about being able to take off with a heavier payload if you use a catapult instead of a ramp.

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>>76619213
umm sweetie 1 Shtorm would be able to destroy whole british fleet in hours

>>76618753
>arent large things easy targets in general?
That's why they have a lot of defensive measures against missiles and travel with a fleet and constantly have aircraft monitoring everything. The decks can also take a kamikaze type nuclear attack.

>>76617972
It's just funny.
Never explain memes.
Never.

>>76619213
At least they have an aircraft carrier

>Aircraft carriers are usefu-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIwr8W1dr8E
>>76619324
CIWS+Escort ships can take out only small percent of rockets

>>76617972
the ramp is cheaper and inferior in all ways. having an aircraft carrier with a ramp is hilarious because it shows the country that has it is poor and technologically lacking but still tries to show strength,

>>76619292
The russian navy has possibly one of the worst modern records of sinking anything, but itself

>>76617841
Aircraft carriers are easy targets to any major military. Relatively easy, considering their huge price.

>>76619086
We should make an alliance with Spain long time ago.

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ah yes
Russian warships

positively chilling

>>76619292
That's never going to happen

>In regards to the carrier project, experts have stated "it's not feasible, neither from a technical nor from a financial point of view" and that "the Russian military doesn't want it." They noted that the Russian Navy has difficulties replacing Project 1155 and 956 destroyers for its fleet and that any plans regarding carriers are unrealistic. They also asserted that as an Eurasian land power, Russia's carriers had limited military value beyond being symbols of national prestige. On the other hand, they have not ruled out Russia considering a replacement for the Admiral Kuznetsov but not for years or decades to come.[4]

>bullying uk when russias sole carrier requires a tug boat escort because its engines have been fucked for the past 20 years and it breaks down constantly

hmm

>>76619684
This. I honestly don't understand why our retarded officials make statements like this one. It's not like our navy is remarkable.

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>ramp
>non-nuclear

>>76619571
They ordered one week ago with nuclear engine

>implying you understand something about the army and engineering
Yeah. Actually, nod really.

>>76619733
>nuclear carrier
whats the point?
we already have a bunch of nuclear subs

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>>76619349
We've got 2 of the little ones

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BOMBEN AUF ENGLAND LÖL

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>>76619978
>Helicopter carrier

>>76619999
Checked and kek'd

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>>76619555

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>>76619019
Damn, Russia is based.

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>>76620036
here. have some real comedy

>>76620152
B-But muh jjapanese war
few dead anglocucks is already a victory

>>76620152
>>76620117
>>76619978
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_Campaign
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis
even t*rks and arabs are doing better

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>>76620363
Well you should know after sucking muslim cocks for as long as you have

>>76620447
NATO did that

>>76620363
Thanks, Mehmet.

>>76620493
Well its long, black, thick and fucks russians but I dont think we can blame the americans for 'that' one

>>76619019
LIBERATE ME

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>>76620363
>even t*rks and arabs are doing better

daily reminder that my daddy is better than all your daddies

>>76620720
>tfw Constantinople could have been liberated in XIX century if not for scheming Anglophones

wtf russia
No bully

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>>76620720
>battle of Sinop
Bongs btfo

>>76618806
>AShM spam
To make an ASM spam, you must be able to bring your vector. Either by sea (so you need naval superiority), or air/land (I count them in the same category because it need to be close from land (airbase).

Then, if the carrier group is send in the killzone near your coast, you still need to either defeat their air superiority or wait for them to come close.

I'll suppose that most of the time, a carrier air-group will have superiority, but let's suppose that they are complete retard or come close enough to get hit by land based ASM.

Then it need to defeat all defensive dispositive of an carrier group which is roughly build to defeat submarine and ASM spam.

To spam effectively, you need to bring either several land based ASM (which is hard because most country don't have much of them and they need to be set along the coast as a defensive measure (which mean the Carrier group can move faster than the land based ASM relocate).

The last chance is for the attacker to have complete air superiority to bring enough naval bomber to spam and defeat the Carrier group defense. Which is hard.

Which mean that to loose a carrier group, you need an absolute retard, making every bad decision possible. At this point it would be more effective for the fleet to scuttle their navy.

I don't say that detroying a carrier group can't be defeated. Just that most country don't have what it need to sink them, and most dispositive against them are defensive (which mean the attacking navy need to put itself in danger).

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>>76619404
Keep believing bullshit

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/five-reasons-us-aircraft-carriers-are-nearly-impossible-sink-17318

https://www.google.com/amp/foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/what-it-would-really-take-to-sink-a-modern-aircraft-car-1794182843/amp

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a26198/north-korea-threatens-to-sink-us-aircraft-carrier/

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/5-ways-us-aircraft-carriers-will-soon-be-more-lethal-13589

>>76619763
Please post article because this was the most recent I've seen.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-worlds-biggest-aircraft-carrier-shtorm-compete-us-defence-a7701491.html

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>>76621490
>Large-deck carriers are fast and resilient.
>Carrier defenses are formidable.
>Carriers do not operate alone.
>Navy tactics maximize survivability.

>>76619019
fake news

>>76619555
what happened

China has its own carriers now anyway, they could probably sink any of those overpriced American toys.

>>76621748
There's no other navy in the world that comes even close to our capabilities.

>>76621902
China wirr grow rarger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x530q4hlv9c

>>76621902
fortunately none of them actually work and the Chinese military is corrupt from top to bottom.

>>76621902
Don't they have just one carrier which is a crappy knockoff of a Russian design?

>>76621902
>Australian/Canadian flag
>CIDF spam
Every time.

>>76621490
Nukes from orbit on 5 mach.

>>76622059
They built 1981 design without our superior ciws and use it as their """"5th gen"""" fighters which have export versions of su27 engines

>>76621748
Yes that's the fucking point as the articles and the Frenchman pointed out
>>76621178
The reality of Russia or China (nevermind another country) taking out a carrier is slim to none.

Most ASM tests are also planned in advance and a stationary target shoots at a stationary target with no counter measures, they don't prove shit.

>Russians
>mocking anyone's weapons

L. O. L.

>>76620923
Sorry calling someone an easy target is too stupid. It's like say about japanese what they are a monkey nation and lose an entire fleet to them.

>>76622169
That war almost killed the both of you. Russia ended up with riots in the streets and a revolution almost happened and Japan was driven to near-bankruptcy by the costs of the war.

>>76622059

Liaoning

>>76622158
that's well known fact that we have best weapons in the world and westerners are just jealous as fuck

>>76617841
>a large convenient target
It's not like the carriers go around with dozen other battle ships, submarines and fighter jets.

>>76622220
Japs were got a Korea, and started to prepare for a aggression on the innocent people. Russia created a monster japs with war.

>>76622106
>Nukes from orbit on 5 mach.
Ahhh yes that's a brilliant use of a nuke. Also as Bikini Atoll proved nukes aren't the most effective at destroying a fleet.

>>76622306
>Ahhh yes that's a brilliant use of a nuke. Also as Bikini Atoll proved nukes aren't the most effective at destroying a fleet.
But big wave are.

The British navy would wipe the floor with Russia's fleet of rustbuckets

>mfw the Russian Navy was supposed train in the Atlantic but it was a little stormy out so instead they hid in the River Seine and then went back to Russia
>our little babby boat OPVs were out dicking about in the storm at the same time
kek slavshit is poor shit.

>>76617972
The ramp means an aircraft has to take off under its own power. The catapult means it is being assisted in being flung off so it doesn't need as high a weight to power ratio in order to take off.

You get to carry more and fly more with a catapult than a ramp.

>mfw the Russian Navy was supposed train in the Atlantic but it was a little stormy out so instead they hid in the River Seine and then went back to Russia
Souce: your ass

>>76622252
Even in the 70s-80s, it was questionable. For example, the MiG-29. Fantastic aerodynamics and maneuverability, but the avionics were primitive garbage.

>>76622471
>The Tu-22M suffered from widespread maintenance issues during its service with the Soviet forces. These stemmed from poor manufacturing quality. The engines and airframes in particular had low service lives.[21] The Air Force at one point sought to have Tupolev prosecuted for allegedly rushing the inadequate designs of the Tu-22M and the Tu-160 into service.[22] This was compounded by the government bureaucracy, which hampered the provision of spare parts to allow the servicing of the Tu-22M. With some aircraft grounded for up to six months, the mission-capable rate of the aircraft in August 1991 hovered around 30–40%.[21][23]

>>76617841
Meanwhile Russian navy is garbage tier compared to NATO-s and their aircraft carrier runs on coal.

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>meanwhile at the Russian navel base everyone is on strike again because instead of paying their sailors they spent the money on this press release and a new car for Admiral Corruptinov

>>76622469
>The Russian defence ministry says that the ships have decided to stay in the channel to wait out a storm following a week of manoeuvres in the North Sea.
http://www.thejournal.ie/russian-warships-channel-1804942-Nov2014/

https://www.rt.com/news/209707-russian-battleships-english-channel/
>“They are not holding exercises. They're just waiting in a zone where they are allowed to be several times a year," the French Navy's information service said as cited by Reuters.
>"Our information indicates that the ships are transiting and have been delayed by weather conditions. They are not exercising in the Channel, as some Russian headlines would have us believe,” said NATO's military spokesman Lieutenant-Colonel Jay Janzen.

>>76620720
i am not even a fucking turk you idiot

>>76622566
And China's military is 100x more corrupt than that even.

>>76622566
>navel base
That's hot.

>>76622590
are you an greek?

>>76622570
We planned to use helicopters in that training
they can't fly in storm
Oh you potato niggers haven't discovered helicopters yet?

>>76622517
>>76622471
Back in the day, they tried using nuclear subs with no lead shielding around the reactor to save weight. The crew would eventually die of radiation poisoning, but they'd last just long enough to complete the mission.

DEATH TO AMERIKA

DEATH TO THE WEST

>>76622785
>Back in the day, they tried using nuclear subs with no lead shielding around the reactor to save weight.
Literally propaganda without reliable source. I agree first soviet atomic submarines used to have bad safety but soviets knew how to build nuclear reactors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-19

>>76618801
underrated post

>>76622599
source?

>>76619019
>(we'd send the chechens and other mongrel races first)

>>76623037
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/1999535/two-more-chinas-former-top-commanders-taken-away
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-corruption-military-idUSKBN0TZ0F120151216
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-military-vehicles-idUSBRE93R08620130428

However, as everyone and their mother knows, Xi Jinping's anti-corruption efforts are only targeted at his political opponents.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/1954587/political-mistakes-more-graft-led-downfall-chinese

>>76622471
There was one bomber (the Tu-22M?) that the Pentagon were shitting their pants over back then until we managed to acquire an intact one (I forget how we got ahold of the thing) and found that its engines were noisier and had higher fuel consumption than American aircraft engines due to less advanced Soviet manufacturing capabilities.

>>76619406
Not in all ways. Ramp sortie rate is higher, and it's cheaper too.

>>76622755
Sounds to me like you're butthurt Ivan, your fucking rustbuckets can't go out into storms. We regularly fly helicopters into storms to rescue fishermen in the Atlantic.

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>>76619019

>>76618753
My philosophy when it comes to ladies.

>>76619019
Based russia will destroy the eternal anglo.

>>76621873
The solid fuel booster launched the missile, but the main engine didn't ignite.

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>>76617883
Ramps are not for bullying.

Well, they usually are.

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Out for a year or two of sea trials, it's a big ramp ship tbqh.

>>76621873
premature ejaculation, it comes with age you see