/IRA+STAN/

>>76502793
Ban hwarz, aemblatai!

>>76502827
half your people are literally niggers.

we are mostly lightish-brown

>>76502822
(Good afternoon, friends)

>>76502827
Why are you so butthurt?

>>76502847
what houre is it there?
it's 10;45 AM here

>>76502847
Are you russian or kazakh?

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>>76502827
POO

we wuz tigraxauda n shiiet

>>76502875
Kazakh

>>76502863
13:49 here

>>76502850
I hate Semites.

>>76502793

sup lads

>>76502882
>>76502886
Can you guys rate all your neighbouring countries please? Im really interested

>>76502876
indians also call worshiping an idol, doing POOja
meme country, meme religion, meme genetics

>>76502917
didn't know that

>>76502876
Unironically better looking than any girl you'll ever get

>>76502845
BENGALI PORN
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>>76502850
Indians are really thin skinned because of the caste system

>>76502876
>>76502850
Stop responding

>>76502847
How are relations between ethnic kazakh and Kazakh Russians?

What are your relations with Mongolia?

What are topics do you cover while learning history in school?

Do Kazakh people have clans that they belong to? Is their any hierarchy in them?

How many people follow the nomadic lifestyle? Are any of your relatives following it?

>>76502916
>>76502904
>>76502886

This.

Rate the -Stans. Who are the most ''durka durka'', the weirdest, the most ''Turkic''....etc

>>76502876
Fucking hot! God damn my brown fetish is out of control.

>>76502907
well hello there neighbor. you a Turk?

>>76502970
in 10 mins, i'm on my laptop outside

let me go to a place i can't be seen.

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Reminder that western iranians (iran/p*rsians) and t*rkics are natural allies.

Reminder that afghans and the shit that we wuz and (northern) indians and the shit they wuz are natural allies.

>mfw s*ss*n*ds and the g*kt*rks like snakes attacked the based Hepthalites (I wuz this)

>>76503014
Werent hephtalites turks themselves?

>>76503047
No, there's more evidence there of them being eastern iranian

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>>76502845
True.

>>76503014
Fucking afghan U Wuz Everything. I think hepthalites were turks btw.

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>>76502876

reminder to stay away from medicine and healthcare fuck this gay earth and waking up this early because dequeesha dropped her kid

>>76502916
Kazakhstan - tons of oil, high HDI, high level of corruption, endless steppes. 3/5 best stan
Kyrgyz republic - somewhat democratic, great nature, high level of corruption, undeveloped poor shithole. 2/5
Cottonstan - Durka durka, somewhat poor, totalitarian shithole 2/5
Tajikistan - undeveloped poor authoritarian shithole which suffered a lot from civil war. 1/5 worst stan

>>76503014
You're as Persian as Iranians are tb.h. Probably more in fact since Afghanistan broke off from Safavid rule while Persian Sunni in Iran got genocided and replaced with Arab Shia.

>>76503097
fuck doctors
>muh referrals
>muh 6 month wait time
>muh retarded GPs

GET FUCKED

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>UNITED ISLAMIC TURKO-PERSIAN KHORASAN.

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>>76503089
Thats pretty well drawn not gonna lie.

>>76503111
Kyrgyzbro, why do u accept Soviet map drawing? Also tell me about the most butthurt rivalries between the stans.

>>76503086
Some have claimed that some groups amongst the Hephthalites were Turkic-speakers.[8] Today the Hephthalites are generally held to have been an Eastern Iranian people speaking an East Iranian language.[19] The Hephthalites enscribed their coins in the Bactrian (Iranian) script,[20] held Iranian titles,[20] the names of Hephthalite rulers given in Ferdowsi's Shahnameh are Iranian,[20] and gem inscriptions and other evidence shows that the official language of the Hephthalite elite was East Iranian.[20] In 1959, Kazuo Enoki proposed that the Hephthalites were probably Indo-European (East) Iranians as some sources indicated that they were originally from Bactria, which is known to have been inhabited by Indo-Iranian people in antiquity.[13] Richard Frye is cautiously accepting of Enoki's hypothesis, while at the same time stressing that the Hephthalites "were probably a mixed horde".[21] More recently Xavier Tremblay's detailed examination of surviving Hephthalite personal names has indicated that Enoki's hypothesis that they were East Iranian may well be correct

>>76503119
not really, how are we defining "persian"? here are some
1. People originating from the pars tribe in what was once known as pars/fars
2. Any persian speaker that has no direct ancestry from other groups (i.e. parents and grandparents are native persian speakers/don't belong to another group)
3. People descending from fars (lets make an assumption that populations don't change completely, this means that actual descendants of the pars tribe are mostly found in fars with the degree of descent decreasing radially as you go away form fars)

if by 2 then sure, but that means persian isn't an ethnic group really since someone from fars has different ancestors from someone from mashhad so on and so forth

persians/tajiks in afghanistan descend from the same shit that pashtuns do, so clearly we're different with the only major overlap being between western afghanistan and eastern iran

>>76502972
>How are relations between ethnic kazakh and Kazakh Russians?
Normal, I think

>What are your relations with Mongolia?
A few Kazakh tribes have Mongolic origin. Mongolic influence in terms of linguistics is weak(a few words were adopted)

>What are topics do you cover while learning history in school?
Stone Age, Andronovo, Sakas and Sarmarians, Wusuns/Kangju and Xiongnu, the Turkic era, the Mongol era, the Kazakh Khanate, the Russian Empire, the USSR, Kazakhstan

>Do Kazakh people have clans that they belong to? Is their any hierarchy in them?
Yes, the Kazakh nation consists of them. Sure

>How many people follow the nomadic lifestyle? Are any of your relatives following it?
Few people(basically there are Kazakhs in China and Mongolia who follow it). No, not really

just read the last thread
cancer af, I don't think indians here are ironically religious hindus (if they are they should kys themselves)

>>76503221
>Normal, I think
sad, Russkies deserve genocide.

By the way, what you think about changing your alphabet to the Latin one?

>>76503124
blame the canadian healthcare system, I'm legit planning on dipping canada for nyc if I get into psych

>>76503221
>Sure
Could you elaborate please?

What do you do in Kazakhstan?

What has been your family's traditional profession? As in practiced by your grandpa and before.

What is the average height of people there? How tall are you?

Are horses common in urban regions?

How liberal is Kazakhstan in terms of relationships between boys and girls(dating,etc)? What about LGBT and atheism?

Do you have any conservative Muslims? Is shamanism gaining a foothold or are people content being Muslim?

>>76503248
Almost all of them are

>>76503259
Eeeh, it is a way of distancing from Russia, isn't it..

Anyway, I'd like to use the new alphabet. Maybe

>>76503199
> why do u accept Soviet map drawing?
And what's your proposal? A War? There are ~25 million uzbeks in uzbekistan and almost 1 million uzbeks lives in the south of KR. Military spendings in RUz are more than $1 billion which is equal to entire kyrgyz GDP.

>>76503210
Persian today means people who speak the Persian language, and come from traditional Persian countries.
Most Persian "tribes" come from the same people who lived in certain provinces. Fars people just called their province Fars, and these provinces were named to describe certain regions.
It's only cringelord out of touch diaspora who try to make it anything other than what it is.
Lurs speak a language closer to ancient persian than Fars do.
Like Arab means people who speak Arabic, not people who descend from Arabian tribes.
Islam and time in general have done a good job and mixed us all together. The concept of race or tribe is an outdated one from thousands of years ago which no longer exists in the modern world.
But since Afghans and Iranians have shared an identity predating Islam for us it goes back even further.

>>76503404
>The concept of race or tribe is an outdated one from thousands of years ago which no longer exists in the modern world.
You'll catch some flak for saying this but it's unironically true, the 'purest' people iirc are danes and norwegians (still mixed but not as mixed), everyone else is basically a mix of different groups that lived side by side with one another

>>76503351
How does Kyrgyz culture influence society and societal norms and practices?

For example the Chinese have something called guanxi, Japan have a culture of being subservient to people above them, etc. Are there any cultural elements that make Kyrgyz society unique?

>>76503210
Interesting.

From what I've read on post pre-islamic history, the iranian tribes such as the Persians, Parthians, Bactrians, Khwarezmians, Sogdians had related cultures, related languages, identified as aryans but still identified with that respective tribe they were from.

Post-islamic history, alot of the armies in persia and central asia consisted of arabs and convert persian soldiers who were at war with the final pockets of resistance within said tribes above. Due to the imminent threat to their languages/identity, most iranic peoples adopted the persian language/culture as a form of damage control. This explains why so many of the great scholars of persian ethnicity actually resided outside of what is now modern day iran and was also used synonymously with the word tajik.

>>76503351
Is the situation in the area stable? Or do you think its only a matter of time before it falls apart?

>>76503474
Yeah I once read that cyrus and his people were able to speak to bactrians and sogdians as they had a very similar language - it's probably because the languages of both groups ultimately comes from one ancestral language and the degree of splitting wasn't too far gone like with india

>>76503404
For once a reasonable post from you

>>76503454
Well almost everyone here lives in a right wing secular nationalist double think hugbox/echo chamber and ironically don't have both parents from the Fars province (not that it matters) themselves so that's not surprising.
By that logic Persia would be an extremely small place, and true Persians would have to natively be from Shiraz.
Also Afghans celebrate Nowruz right?
So I don't really see any difference between someone from Afghanistan and someone from Iran.
Iranians, Afghans, and Tajiks are all literally the same people

>>76503620
>Afghans
Afghans isn't an ethnic group though.

There are Turkmen and Uzbekh, Afghans, to which we have less in common then let's say Pashtuns.

>>76503620
yes we celebrate nowruz, in pashto we call it newe kal meaning new year

>Iranians, Afghans, and Tajiks are all literally the same people
I still disagree with this, there's a distinct difference between kurds, persians etc. And in my opinion, a persian from iran has more in common with azeris now because they share the same nationality for example than he does with a tajik who probably has more in common with the pashtuns in his province. Though I will say that people from herat and mashhad are very similar (speak the same way, have same traditions and customs).

>>76503670
>>76503620
if you have the time, here's an interview with an afghan (farhad) and 2 tajikistanis, which are you able to understand better? I've always wondered

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFS84qRK8yc

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>>76502876

here's one with an iranian
I understand the iranian a bit better kek

https://youtu.be/LQ0zlETA-kg?t=366

literally we wuzzing about aryans in an interview kek

>>76503785
>OC for a 2 day old general

Mashallah this might be working

>>765036209
I am Hazara/Turkmen and we speak dari (almost same as farsi?) and celebrate Nowruz. We are also shia if that matters

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>>76503319
My height is about 184 cm

>Are horses common in urban regions?
No

>What is the average height of people there?
Uhmm, ~165-181 cm, I dunno

>What has been your family's traditional profession? As in practiced by your grandpa and before.
Aah, dissimilar desu
I'd like to be a linguist or somewhat

>Do you have any conservative Muslims? Is shamanism gaining a foothold or are people content being Muslim?
Yes, we have. Actually, not so many people are interested in history etc. A lot of them just work, so, I suppose, working people do not know much about both Islam and Tengriism. There are some enthusiastic people though

>How liberal is Kazakhstan in terms of relationships between boys and girls(dating,etc)? What about LGBT and atheism?
Yeah, you may date a girl(a lot of nuances, pal). You need to be careful anyway.. Uhm, I do not think our people like LGTB(it is apparently better to keep it a secret). Atheism.. The USSR often spread it, mmh, maybe

My neglect, sorry

>>76503857
Meant for >>76503620

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0cB3G3TPXQ

tajikistani music >>>>>>> afgh*n and ir*nian music

>>76503714
Historically speaking, the term persian came to encompass all iranians, most iranic afghans and tajiks. I think the closeness was further reinforced by the persian language which both iranians and tajiks speak. While for kurds and pashtuns not so much. Nowadays, religion and politics also really do affect how people identify.

>>76502793

are balochistani people considered "iranian"?

ethnically speaking of course

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>>76502793
>TFW SPEAK THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF THE ACHAEMENID EMPIRE NATIVELY
>TFW 99% OF PERSIANS WILL NEVER EVER KNOW TF

>>76503857
kek there's so many hazaras in sweden

sweden yes btw

>>76503903
Guess so yes.

You Balochi?

>>76503922

Nope. Just curious.

Why do you guess so? Is it because most live in Pakistan? There should be a unified Iranian state imho

>>76503670
You don't understand how ethnic groups in the muslim world work today because you have no understanding of history.
In Iran most of them aren't even considered different ethnicities, just people who live in different provinces.
>>76503714
Well yeah that's why I said most "ethnic groups" not all.
Azeris used to share the same identity as Fars until it was occupied for a while by the pre ottoman turks after the abbasid caliphate, which created the Azeri identity today.
The identity was created. It didn't always exist. The same thing goes for most Iranic tribes. The meaning of Persian back then had no correlation to the meaning of Persian as an ethnicity or a group within a group. It just meant people who spoke Persian and were part of the Persian empire.
And I don't know enough about Kurdish history to say if their identity was created later or if it always existed.
And yeah we have different nationalities today, but this didn't exist until Afghanistan was created by breaking off due to the Safavid empire's Sunni genocide, which made Afghanistan the Sunni part of Persia, while whats today Iran became the Shia part of Persia.
In the same manner the Arab Shia who came in and replaced the Persian Sunni became assimilated into the Iranian identity, the Persian Sunni who managed to flee and escape genocide became assimilated into whatever country they went to.
>>76503857
>>76503882
You're as Persian as any Iranian, Afghan, or Tajik then.
>>76503763
I'll take a look

>>76503912
Are you Assyrian? Aramaean?

>>76503471
> unique
Not really. "Turkic nomadic culture" is the best definition imo.
>>76503474
> Is the situation in the area stable
When Karimov was still alive there were occasional borderline tensions. Current president is more friendly and open to dialogue.

And we also have ethnic clashes every 20 year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osh_riots_(1990)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_South_Kyrgyzstan_ethnic_clashes
> only a matter of time before it falls apart
Nah i don't think so. Not in the near future.

>>76503987
>Turkic nomadic culture
Could you elaborate?

>>76504066
Do you know how original Turkics looked?

>>76503763
Afghans have a different accent than Iranians do that's true. And while I can still understand what the Tajik's are saying, in comparison I can understand the Afghan guy Farhad much better. I think his accent is a lot closer to the Iranian accent than the Tajik's accents are to the Iranian accent.
The Tajik's talk with an accent that's too stern imo.
The Afghan guy is really easy for me to understand. He talks with a more relaxed accent.

>>76503960
Then how come I hear about ethnic discrimination by persians against the minorities (hazara etc). Its also really hard to travel to Iran nowadays with all the visa requirements.

>>76503960
Hazaras are not persian m9

>>76504148
I see, personally I can't understand tehrani too well, but people from the southern half of iran like fars, isfahan, I understand very well.

>>76504158
It could be for any number of reasons.
Different social classes, redneck equivalents just being unfriendly to people from a different part of the country, different dialects spoken, etc. Those are just off the top of my head.

>>76503987
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osh_riots_(1990)
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_South_Kyrgyzstan_ethnic_clashes
Damn these were actually quite serious.

>Nah i don't think so. Not in the near future.
This sounds promising, wouldn't want a match to light up in that region.

>>76503069
Why do browns cherry pick so much about themselves?

>>76504177
I never mentioned Hazaras. I don't know enough about them to be able to speak about them.
I'm just a sheltered boy from Tehran.
>>76504238
Yeah, these things develop by living in certain regions. Move somewhere else and in a few generations your descendants will be speaking like someone from where you moved and no one, probably not even themselves will know the difference.

>>76503848
It's not about general. I don't like when you Semites try to associate with us.

>>76504379

>from Tehran

Why do you live in USA? Are you a Zoraostrian or something? most persians I know around my area are since they fled Iranian persecution

>>76504398
>Are you a Zoraostrian or somethin
He's a hardcore Marxist-Khomeinist.

>>76504396
but it's you indians who constantly involve afghanistan and more recently iran in your threads...

>>76504066
Lifestyle is very important to culture. For example Japan had the caste system with samurais and common peasants i think that is the reason of their subservience culture. We didn't had caste but society was tribal before the sovietization so people here are still tend to divide themselves from each other, people are lazy (there is no hard work in nomadic lifestyle: you have your horses or camels, flock of sheep etc. It's nothing compared to peasantry)

>>76504398
>Are you a Zoraostrian or something? most persians I know around my area are
I don't think they're real zoroastrians, the real zoroastrians living in iran don't have the money to get to the west lol, the ones you know are probably irl larpers

>>76503986
The first one, which speaks dialects closer to the Imperial dialect, I think. If it wasn't for the WWI genocide there would be about a million speakers now in West Azerbaijan, Iran. But I think it'ss currently <30,000

kek gonna be late and get chewed out, have a good night/day

>>76504398
>Are you a Zoraostrian or something?
No
>most persians I know around my area are since they fled Iranian persecution
I go to university here.
>>76504522
Shab bekher dadasham :D
>>76504478
>the ones you know are probably irl larpers
This. Though western raised ones I see at the very most would just wear the necklace, but just dislike religion in general.

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>>76504478

>the real zoroastrians living in iran don't have the money to get to the west lol, the ones you know are probably irl larpers

Its an iranian food joint with tons of paintings, images etc like pic related. Doubt a group of shiites would do something like that

>>76504676
They're agnostics/atheists who use that symbol as "muh ancient heritage". I don't think it has any religious significance to them although I could be wrong.

>>76504429
Because one Afghan poster under Dutch flag and one Iranian poster under American flag always say they are South Asians and they should be included in /sag/.

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>>76504707

I thought it represented zoroastrianism as well? shame y'all decided to get invaded by arabs, your indigenous religions are far more interesting than twelver islam

>>76504427
You just love throwing meaningless labels around without actually knowing what they mean don't you.

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>>76503069

>>76504745
It does represent zoroastrianism. As Iranian said, their motives aren't really based on religious conviction if im not mistake.

>>76504745
It represents zoroastrianism as well. But they use it as a symbol of "muh ancient heritage" without actually knowing much about it besides "muh ancient heritage".
I've talked to a guy who wore the necklace and didn't know what zoroastrianism is. He just said he wears it because he's persian and he believes the symbol to represent "muh ancient heritage".
>shame y'all decided to get invaded by arabs, your indigenous religions are far more interesting than twelver islam
We were majority Sunni until the 1500s when Shah Ismael genocided the Persian Sunni and replaced them with Arab shia, which lead to Afghanistan breaking off and becoming the Persian Sunni state, but ok thanks for your opinion.

>>76504810
This

>>76504734
They're b8ing.

>>76504795
Is it your picture? Please don't post them on an anonymous board.

>>76504831

Its just banter. Dont take it personally. I have nothing against muslims or your theocracy with exception to the way your government treats minority religions

Im just mad since I cant visit your glorious country (without visa), I genuinely hear it is one of the nicest and most welcoming countries on the planet.

>>76504491
Did iranians participate in the genocide? Or did the ottomans just waltz over the region and snatched any assyrian they came across?

>>76504999
>Its just banter. Dont take it personally. I have nothing against muslims or your theocracy with exception to the way your government treats minority religions
Ok
>Im just mad since I cant visit your glorious country (without visa), I genuinely hear it is one of the nicest and most welcoming countries on the planet.
Muslims are a hospitable people, as Islam teaches us to be hospitable towards guests. If other muslim countries weren't wartorn you'd be treated the same there.
Go to Egypt for example and you'll be treated with as much hospitality.

>>76505000
that region, back then was very autonomous, i think the Turks did cross and did plenty of shit.

Pretty sad though, the Assyrians stood loyal to the Sultan, not like the Armenians who deserted to the Russians.
The Turks though where to retarded to know the difference.

>>76505109
I dont want to appear clingy bzt I need my porn m8.

>>76505575
I tried looking for the one i spoke of back then I swear I can't find it.
Should've saved them but got paranoid that someone will find.

You want a short vid with Tamil lesbians? it's pretty hot.

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>>76502793
Uæ ban xwarz, ærvadæltæ!* Max stæm Særmættæ and shiiet.

*Good day to you, relatives

>>76502822
>>76502847
Friends will be "æmbaltæ". "Æmbaltæj" is literally "from friends".

>>76505761
Ah, I try to use more archaic forms desu

>>76505761
Do you have a word similar to 'paida'(benefit)
We have this one in Kazakh
It seems to be an Iranic word

>>76505663
>Tamils
>hot
I'll be the judge of that senpai. Share link

>>76505861
Iranic is "faida"

>>76505761
Is this the ossetian language?

>>76505663
Give me everything you have right now fampai

>>76505861
Yes, we have literally the word "pajda", but I thought it was borrowed from Mongol/Tatar language. Not sure about it though.

Also we have the word "dzuapp" for "answer" which I'm sure is presented in Kazakh.

>>76505895
Yes

>>76505958
Oh yes, 'jawap'

>>76505958
Dzuapp must be iranic I think. We use Djavab in persian

>>76505958
Are there any videos on the language that we can listen to?

'dzuapp' is similar to 'jawab' which also means answer in persian

>>76505958
>>76505989
>dzuapp
Iranic is "jawab"

>>76505874
>>76505924
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5661797e6e71a

it's short but i find it hot.

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>>76506051
Whaaaaat? What does the color difference between her skin and vagina mean? I have only seen something like that in horses.

But thanks for sharing

>>76506051
Nice, thank you dadash. You got more?

>>76506181
can't find the Bengali vids I iked...sorry.

let me try and look for a Paki one i saw weeks ago.

>>76506011
>Are there any videos on the language that we can listen to?
Sure.

TV show about WWII in Iron dialect:
https://youtu.be/OBhIj6-22vE

News in Digor dialect (tends to lack Turkic sounds like "y" or "q" and be more Iranic grammatically): https://youtu.be/911Cpiy2tO8

Song in Digor dialect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSTM2BNRWLs

Song in South Ossetian version of Iron dialect: https://youtu.be/Y36nxjQzRWo

Some random interview in which one guy speaks in North Ossetian variant of Iron dialect and other one in South Ossetian variant: https://youtu.be/G1w2EoC3rj8

>>76506011
And also there are video lessons of the language. They are run by some Argentinian (!) guy who tries to learn it but his pronounciation isn't bad at all.
https://youtu.be/-owDvVkhL50

>>76506551
How do you say "Hello" in ossetian?

>>76506551
Where are you from North or South? Can you update us on the situation unfolding between Russian and Georgia? I head stuff like Russia keeps moving the border fences south or something

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>>76503670
Correction, Afghan is an ethnic group but fking US has gone and started calling anyone from Afghanistan as Afghan.

Afghan is synonymous with Pashtun. Of the ethnic Afghans in Afghanistan some speak purely Pashto, the ones that had royal ties speak Pashto and Dari (almost identical to Farsi with some loan words from Pashto) and in some cases exclusively Dari.

Ethnic Afghans in Pakistan either speak Pashto exclusively or speak Pashto and Urdu if they are brought up in cities.

Just like Azeri, Turken, Uzbek, Balouch, Kurdish are ethnicities, so is Afghan (Pashtun).

This whole fucking confusion started when dumbass Americans started using the word Afghan for all nationals of Afghanistan.
I guess for clarity's sake, there is an Afghan national which can be any

>>76506679
We say "Salam" :)
"Bon xorz"/"Ban xwarz" is a "Good day" and "Bajraj"("Bayray") is "Greetings".

>>76506755
I live in the North. Situation is stable, Russian bases in South Ossetia don't let Georgians to do anything.

>I head stuff like Russia keeps moving the border fences south or something
As far as I know it's not really true. They just installed a barbed wires on some places of the border between South Ossetia and Georgia and this caused protests from the guys who lived in some Georgian villages nearby. The border itself remained untouched.

What is sogdiana?

>>76503111
Cottonstan - Durka durka, somewhat poor, totalitarian shithole 2/5
KYS we have a higher GDP per capita then you

Here's what you need to know about Central Asian politics everyone hate's Uzbekistan except Kazakhstan who barely acknowledges us and We used to hate everyone else but new president isn't crazy so it's getting better

>>76507524
FORGOT TO NAMEFAG

>>76507524
>>76507566
Redpill me on the 2010 riots between Uzbek and Kyrgyz

>>76507566
>$2,154
Yeah, fucking great. Richest country in the world, 2gen.

>>76507643
what's there to redpill about? kyrgyz people think Uzbek's aren't "real" Turkics because were a little less chinky and they believe nomadism is the peak of Turkic culture they called us "sarts" old persian term for city people because of these reasons they considered us subhumans and killed us

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>>76507466
I am only interested in the Sogdian language(a Northern-Eastern Iranic language)

I know only a few words ;D
mēϑ - day;
azu - I;
axšəϑ - night
ašt - eight
škōrϑ - difficult
ku - who
δar- - to hold; to have
katam - which
masa - here
wirk - wolf

>>76507883
>they believe nomadism is the peak of Turkic culture
>because of these reasons they considered us subhumans and killed us
based as fuck

>>76507819
Aren't you Russian? Also I'm saying were relatively not that poor compared to the other central Asian countries who said anything about rich?

>>76507957
>azu
>axšəϑ
>ašt
>ku
>δar
>katam
>wirk

There words are still recognizable, huh.

>>76507883
Kek. Perfect example that diaspora don't know shit about Central asia.
Ethnic clashes happened not because we think "uzbekscum is iranian peasants". We don't have ethnic clashes with tajiks. Ethnic clashes happened because you breed like vermins, occupy kyrgyz clay and hold most of the business in Osh (basically local version of happy merchant). In other words you live in our country and don't give our people enough space.
>>76507991
No i'm not a ruskie.
> Also I'm saying were relatively not that poor compared to the other central Asian
And i said "somewhat poor" not "poor af" you moron.

>>76507971
KYS one of the major reasons why those other countries hate us is the fact that our military is 10x stronger than the rest if there wasn't a International police aka the UN and we wouldn't be punished for being aggressors the tanks would have already been rolling through the street of these countries

>>76508021
I heard the Avestan language is the closest to Skythian, I dunno tho

>>76508079
>don't give our people enough space
Can you give some (unironic) steps in which Uzbeks can better integrate into Kyrgyz society?

>>76508127
Do you think Uzbekistan should take over the Uzbek inhabited regions in the south?

>>76508199
2:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQvluPLVLrg

>>76508231
> Can you give some (unironic) steps in which Uzbeks can better integrate into Kyrgyz society?
I can't. They are like chinks and only live among other uzbeks. They don't want to assimilate and never will. Best options are either pogroms or peaceful expulsion

>>76508325
Come on. There are so many countries where people with different languages, cultures and ethnicities live together peacefully. Your concerns are not unique to the country.

>>76508231
Of Kyrgyzstan? No we shouldn't the only thing I want is Tajikistan that country shouldn't exist it's our land

>>76508127
> 10x stronger than the rest
Lmao no you don't. Kazakh army is equally strong, uzbek army has only an advantage in manpower.
> the tanks would have already been rolling through the street of these countries
Yeah, go on and try. Like kazakhbros never kicked your sart arse before.

>>76508437
Tajikistan was always iranic m8. Turks originated somewhere in kazhakstan I think.

>>76508662
*Turkics

>>76508662
Turkics apparently originated in southern Siberia and Mongolia

>>76508724
Ah right. Btw can you understand the languages of those turkic tribes in siberia?

>>76508556
>sart
Okay, I'm curious now. You think Uzbeks are below you because they are city dwellers, but aren't Kyrgyz the same now. Do you believe there are social differences between the two because of Kyrgyz nomadism and Uzbek sedentary life? Could you give some details please.
>>76508724
Could you answer the above as well please?

>>76508437
What do you know about Babur?

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>>76508662
Tajikistan before Stalin went full retard was under Turkic/Uzbek rule for 1000 years I don't give a shit about the ethnicity they accepted our rule before just because now they have a stupid national identity created by a crazy Georgian man doesn't make it OK

>>76508850
So uzbekistan belongs to russia then? Do you even know what a nationstate is?

>>76508759
Yakut - almost nothing, Tuvan - a little

>>76508850
Why do think Kyrgyz believe nomadism makes them superior?

>>76508891
What does Russia have to do with anything ? I'm saying there's a long historical and cultural acceptance of our rule in your country. I'll make it easy for you name me ONE historical Tajik government or Empire I can name you many over a thousand years of Turkic rule in Tajikistan

>>76508724
>using "Turkic" word that made by wh*tes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_the_Tang_military

>>76508850
...and after posts like this they tell me "Turks and Iranics are brothers". Lol.

>>76508847
Sart is basically simple ethnic slur at this point. We were calling them "sarts" for ages.
>>76508951
We don't

>>76509030
What's wrong with this post? I'm saying Turkic and iranic people were living together peacefully for thousand year with no one complaining your just pushing modern day concepts of race and identity to central Asia

>>76509004
Ethnicity meant jackshit back then when it came to rulers. You can even see it in the name of all middle eastern and central asian empires they were all named after the ruling dynasties which were mostly mixed and patronized all the different cultures in their empires. With the advance of nationalism people started to form nation states. A nation state is a a form of state where the inhabitants are connected by a common language,religion,history and origin unlike dynastic empires which were basically the property of a monarch. You cant just say that tajikistan belongs to uzbekistan just because the ruler of the dynasties begore were uzbeks. With that logic i could say that uzbekistan belongs to russia because it was ruled by russians for almost 100 years. And what do you mean with culturally accepted rule? Do you think the Tajiks want to become part of uzbekistan?

>>76509006
I see nothing wrong
This word was created for distinguishing

"-ic definition, a suffix forming adjectives from other parts of speech, occurring originally in Greek and Latin loanwords (metallic; poetic; archaic; public)"

>>76509280
>I'm saying Turkic and iranic people were living together peacefully for thousand year with no one complaining
>Tajikistan before Stalin went full retard was under Turkic/Uzbek rule for 1000 years
Makes me think

Khomeini had a cool name. The new guy Chamenei has also a cool name.

>>76509484
He thinks that Turkic leaves out Turks in anatolia. Turks dont like it if you say or imply that central asian turks and anatolian turks arent the same

>>76509303
UGH I Wrote this big post and then I accidentally backed so just gonna condense it

>Ethnicity meant jackshit back then when it came to rulers
Wrong in Central Asia ruler's had to have Genghisid blood that's why Timur never made himself Khan

>With the advance of nationalism people started to form nation states A nation state is a a form of state where the inhabitants are connected by a common language,religion,history and origin unlike dynastic empires which were basically the property of a monarch
I'm saying Tajikistan never had nationalism or a nation state BEFORE STALIN there never was a connection to being "Tajik" that's why they accepted Turkic rule what don't you understand about this everything in that sentence doesn't apply to Tajikistan organically it was only created by Stalin


>>76509006
Your fault for taking the work Turk

>>76509521
Yes they were a minority? what's your point being a minority doesn't make you inferior or treated worse many countries have had ethnic minorities doesn't mean they were treated badly and again I will say this if they wanted to be ruled by themselves and really hated the Turkic rulers why didn't they rebel?

>>76509628
Oh I've seen 'Kazakh Turks', 'Uzbek Turks' etc.

>>76509628
I know the feeling of estrangement. I guess Turks shouldn't be worry about that and should try to improve themselves in a positive direction

>>76507204
Interesting 'Xorz/Xwarz' is the same pronunciation and Meaning in Pashto.

>>76509638
Who says tajik didnt mean anything? Tajiks speak a language completely unrelated to turkic languages. They have their own national epos and origin story. Tajiks see themselves in line with the ancient persian empires and the eastern iranian nomads and the samanid empire. Central asian turkics see themselves as the successors of various Turkic khans/khanates tajiks dont do this. And it doesnt matter if the rulers where of timur linage or not they were still mixed ethnically and culturally and their empires were their properties including the inhabitants.

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>>76510225
Just forget it the post Stalin brainwashing has gotten to you I wouldn't want to conquer it there would be to much ethnic tensions

>>76510436
The fact that you talk about muh uzbek nation/empire just shows that you are brainwashed by stalin m8. There was no uzbek nation before stalin either.

>>76503886
Come on, you can't beat persian songs with that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfdAX8n6UbA

Might it be Iranian? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIcDArAc7PU

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>>76510496
I know there wasn't there three turkic karluk khanates before Stalin the land of Uzbekistan covers the area of all three khanates but not all of the land of the khanates if anything we got screwed of land (that's why there's a Uzbek minority in the other countries but that's a separate issue) so it's fair to say that Uzbekistan is the unified heir successor of these khanates just like Kazakhstan is based off the kazakh khanate

>>76510831
Im sure kyrgyz and turkmens dont think like that. I mean kyrgyizs have their own super-long national epos they surely feel distinct enough from the other stans.

HAYO!

wow, that uzbek is something else, isnt he?

>>76511252
Lel kop gapir mayz

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Uzbek is right in that there was no ethnic nationalism before the russians and stalin. People still remember and identify their Turk or Tajik heritage, but there was no crazy patriotism. The utopian ideal would be for a united state that promotes, preserves and respects the languages/cultures of all the differing ethnic peoples of central asia.

Dont take the Stalin pill.

>>76511670
i dont understand karluk, sorry. why do you think i would understand what you sayin?

>>76511794
well kop is the same in kazakh and mayz is a suffix so the only word left is gapir you can google translate that

>>76512003
>kazakh
Im not a fucking kazakh, tho, dumbass

>>76512113
Yes you're tatar I know you speak kipchak language so I assume simple phrase like this is shared no tatar translator or else I would have definitely said what tatar word is.

>dumbass
why so mean?

>>76512196
>no tatar translator or else I would have definitely said what tatar word is.
I dont understand that sentence, sorry.
Also, I could undertsand "kop" being "a lot", while other is just jibberish to me. I wont try speaking tatar to you, for instance, cause i know that you wont understand me.

>>76511689
>le blanda upp post
Kys my man

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>>76512450
Nice try Stalin

>>76512327
Well I see it done all the time and I think it's intresting but I won't do it to you also

kop gapir mayz
alot talk don't
Don't talk too much

allo???

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>>76502793
MY SĄ PANY

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>>76503912
Here's another picture.

>>76512773
What do you know about Babar , man?

>>76513949
He was Turkic/Uzbek ruler who lost power and then decided to conquer India and he did it I like him he also wrote an auto biography in chagatai

>>76514354
Of course, I was just wondering if you had any insights or folk legends that people from India wouldn't know. Anyway, it's cool.

Is he famous in Uzbekistan?

>>76513338
Bale?

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>>76502956

>>76504745
>tfw considering learning more about Shia Islam and read this
what makes Zoroastrianism more interesting than 12er Islam ?

>>76516429
I'm not sure about religion itself, but Iranians should hate Islam because of all the damage it convicted to Iranian culture, literature and other things. Remember how Muslims destroyed ancient temples and libraries in 6-8th centuries. At least this Zoroastrian religion was authentic and actually Iranian.

>>76516693
I'm not Iranian, so...

i love having white friends because their families own white people shit like cottages.

what are you koonis doing this weekend?

>>76516967
Playing Heroes of the Storm and Diablo 3

>>76511252
Typical 2gen boy suffering from homesickness (even though it's shithole)

>>76506011
>>76506012
It's from Arabic jawâb جواب

>>76518159
Can you tell some of the most popular figures of Kyrgyz history?

What is Kyrgyz people's opinion of Chingiz Khan and Mongols?

Do people practice shamanism? Is it increasing?

How bad is crime in your country?

Who would you count on as allies?

What do you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSr1Smvnync

>>76518189
how fluent are you in farsi?

>>76518277
he's russian

>>76518390
Not at all.

>>76518512
what about arabic?

>>76516967
Tfw mom too stupid to downsize house, buy a cottage and live mortgage free.

At this rate she'll be working 60-70 hours a week well into her 80s and she has no plans to change course.
How do I convince her bros?

>>76518536
Meh. Not much better.

>>76502793
come to the Caucasus and i cut your heads you shitskins

>>76502793
Isn't it Eid for you today? If so Eid mubarak man!

Is Sharif University in Iran any good?

>>76518610
Greek?

>>76518730
subhuman?

>>76518730
Might be the chechen actually.

>>76518655
One of my cousins went there. Says it top tier school, at least in the middle east.

>>76518655
>Sharif
Sharif means innocent. Why do so many Arabic folks' names has Sharif in it? What does it signify?

>>76518819
Sharif شريف means "noble, aristocratic" in Arabic.

>>76518816
chechens are subhumans like you

>>76518655
It's the best engineering school in Iran and possibly one of the best for undergraduate in the world.

http://www.newsweek.com/surprising-success-irans-universities-87853

>>76518899
But I'm not Greek

>>76518819
Plus, it's one of the titles used by Muhammad's descendants.

>>76518996
Greeks are better than other humans you gypsy

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>>76519014
He's a Turk who pretends to be Greek because he was rejected by his kin on /int/. He's sad, ugly and inbred and derails threads with his bullshit spamming

Here is his story

https://desuarchive.org/int/thread/61519569/#q61527690

Mother and father are village people.
Mother was never allowed schooling or any kind of education, was later sold as a nanny under the guise of marriage and suffered my grandmother from my father's side.
It is really a cliche, I shit you not.
She became pregnant with me and I learned later she tried to kill herself with me.
Never wanted me, used me to vent her frustration at how unfair life is.
Threatened and punished me for no reason and made me feel worthless.
Nowadays she is like "I didn't do anything like that :^) it was your own fault for being like that:^)
Why can't you be like these healthily raised children :^) why you got no gf :^) you see me so much in other women that you gave up at any normal relationship :^) Something happened by our own fault?
Your fault, should have told us what we did wrong while you were not there to warn us :^)
Like we would ever listen to a child, kek!"

That said, I left and now she harps on my younger brother's.
That's life

>23
>laz
>short
>fat
>ugly
>dumb
>unemployed

>clean your room they said
I never did
>go get some bread they said
I said I don't want to
>get off the pc they said
I got off 15 hours later
>get a new haircut they said
I cut it myself
>go out and hang out with girls they said
I fuck my hand
>you're worthless
I cry
>shave your face
I shave my ass
>leave the house, go out
I go to toilet
>even kids speak better turkish than you do
>I'm gonna get rid of you soon
>you ate everything in the refrigerator again?
>I was working at your age
>He's your son, you tell him
>What should I say? He doesn't listen
>I don't want to see you like this
>your manboobs are bigger than mine

If allah exists, why hasn't he taken my life yet?

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>>76519065
huh, that's kinda sad actually

>>76519065
Why would you bully him for this though? Just let him be desu

>>76519065
>He's a Turk who pretends to be Greek because he was rejected by his kin on /int/. He's sad, ugly and inbred and derails threads with his bullshit spamming
He's fucking Georgian, Laz people are Muslim Georgians who lives in Turkey. That's why he loves both Greeks and Georgians so much.

Literally eternal slave of Iranian peoples.

>>76517593
stop playing video games and watching anime

>>76518560
some people enjoy keeping busy

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>>76518277
> most popular figures of Kyrgyz history?
Note: i'm tired so i won't even try Correct my mistakes in the text, i know my engrish is horrible but i hope you will understand it.
> Barsbek Khagan
He was nobleman of Yenisei kyrgyz people and later declared himself Khagan claiming sovereignty for Kyrgyz Khaganate. He openly opossed to Eastern Turkic Khaganate and allied with Turgesh and sent diplomatic mission to Tibet. Turgesh didn't actually opposed ETK and Barsbek was killed in 711.
>Alp Sol
He was one of the founders of Kyrgyz Khaganate (picrelated). Kyrgyz Khaganate was established in 840 after 20 years of war and sack of Ordo-Balyq (the capital of Uighur Khaganate). He also went to Xian in 841 as a kyrgyz embassador and met with Tang emperor Wuzong.
> Tagai biy
After kyrgyz people were banished from South Siberia they settled in Central Asia (in Moghulistan). In early XVI century he cosolidated kyrgyz tribe and was his leader. Him and his people sucessfully withstand to Timur's campaigns to kyrgyz lands. He was captured in 1522 by mongols but was released in 1526. After his release he started preparing to another campaing against mongols and allied with kazakh khan Takhir. Mongols soon captured him for the second time and he died in prison in Kashgar in 1533.
>Ormon Khan
He was the last khan in kyrgyz history(1842 - 1854). At that time kyrgyz tribes were uzbek vassals. In 1842 he was proclaimed as a khan of kyrgyz state. Even though he was named kyrgyz khan, kyrgyz people were still divied by tribes. One of those tribes captured Ormon in 1854 and killed him. He also known for killing kazakh khan. In 1846 kazakh khan Kenensary escaped from russians and tried to conquer kyrgyz people. He challenged Ormon Khan because he wasn't Chingissid. He attacked 1847 but was crashed by Ormon and killed.
>Kurmanjan Datka
read about her yourself, i'm tired.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurmanjan_Datka
>>76518503
I'm not

>>76518277
> What is Kyrgyz people's opinion of Chingiz Khan and Mongols?
Mostly neutral. I mean they banished us from our land but people don't really care
> Do people practice shamanism? Is it increasing?
Only some of the customs are practiced to this day.
> How bad is crime in your country?
Country have high level of corruption and organized crime has influence to politicians. But people don't kill each other in the middle of the street like somewhere in Brazil. We have order.
> Who would you count on as allies?
I don't know. I'm not sure that kazakhs will back us up in case of invasion.
> What do you do?
Nothing. I've studied a law for one year but then dropped uni and sat at home for an entire year.

>>76518159
XD

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>tfw gonna attempt to learn Farsi soon
For what kind of ride am I in lads?

>>76524559
Hard stuff

>>76524559
you're going to give up very quickly

>>76524559
This. >>76525598
It's not incredibly hard, there's just little point in learning it. Though the sound of Iranian Farsi is as sweet as honey poured by houris in paradise.

>>76524639
>>76525598
>>76526012
I am hoping that my muh heritaging will keep me motivated
And I know it's kinda useless, but that's not what I care about

>0 iran flags

Bump
>>76526012
Come back to /MeNa/ pls

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>Sarmatians
My ancestors :)

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>>76535810
There are still military bases in Iraq?

>>76538009
Not that many left

>>76538061
Doesnt azerbaijan,turkey and armenia also have military bases?

>>76538695
>Turkey
Yeah there's one nearby Adana which is cut off from the map. Don't know about Azerbaijan and Armenia but I don't think there are bases in those countries
>Azerbaijan

>>76535810
Hahahah iran go ahead and try something

>>76539340
Well iran already "tries something"

>>76538695
Armenia has Russian military bases only.

>>76541271
How is the relationship between armenia and russia?

kick all gypsies out of the Caucasus

>>76545064
But Ikibey you are Greek.

>>76546339
No he is Laz(Greek[Turk])