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/stan/: Inaugural edition.

Thread subject: Will this general become a superpower by 2020?

Invited: Greater Persia, Turkestan, Pakistan, Hindustan and the other Indo-Iranian peoples (yes we know people from Turkestan aren't Indo-Iranian but they are invited anyway).

Do not bite the obvious baits which will come our way for sure.
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>>76448476
/ira/-/stan/ was better, this is just cringe
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2nd for white genocide
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Caucasian folks like Degestanis, Chechens, Ossetiens and Ingush are welcomed to.
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>>76448532
/stan/ is the BEST GENERAL NAME OF ALL TIME

Look at the other shit. brit, deutsch, fr: utter shit

/stan/ is beautiful
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>>76448540
Bengali-kun!!!!
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nth for free khalistan and kashmir
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>>76448476
Should've been /arya/ lads
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>>76448564
Ossetians are Iranic thus a subset of Indo-Iranians.

The others might half one poster across all of /int/
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>>76448476
Turkroaches arent welcomed
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salam watandar, chura OP indi ha dost darad? besyar yek mardom e kasif hast
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Claiming diplomatic representation for Indo-scythian Jatts. Any innocent queries on Jatt history, culture, glory and pride may be directed to me.
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>>76448655
Indians are bro-tier.

If you disagree, you are probably a butthurt chinese
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>>76448599
Sup man?
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>>76448665
where are you from?

are indian women nice? I have a strong brown fetish.
After Ramadan is over i'll fap to some great Bengali porn I found
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The OP is also perfectly relevant

>Indo-Iranian architecture built by a Turkic dynasty
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Pajeets are already shitting up this thread. Next thing you know Pajeet is gonna call his cousin poolinder to shit up this thread even more.

/ira/ - no Pajeet edition.
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>>76448589
Rate someone. :c
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>>76448733
their honorary Aryans. if thet get to cringy will make /IRA-STAN/ the next thread

let's see how it's going right now.
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>>76448733
Iranics and Indics are two peoples who share a strong bond

Kys if you disagree
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>>76448733
this desu
>>76448655
madaresh hamraye undwa khao mekona
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>>76448719
Give me some links for that porn fampai
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>>76448783
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>>76448709
hey.

just shitposting a bit until leaving. You?
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>>76448719
There is no such thing as an Indian woman. India is a place more diverse than Europe
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>>76448719
>>76448810
Same
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>>76448794
Tajis and farsi are the same languages? Do you understand what Tajik people say?
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>>76448830
Yes, the color of poo filled streets are very diverse. Tell me more, Pajeet.
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Honestly afghans are so fucking insecure

Shit tier """"""people""""""""
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Why am I ignored? :/
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>>76448699
Indian people have no morals. Some Indian lady called me yesterday saying I violated tax law and the police would arrest me unless I wire her money.

Chinese people despite being called soulless don't actively make their living off scamming old people.
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>>76448853
tajik is just a synonym for persian

there are more tajiks in afghanistan than tajikistan btw, tajiki, dari and farsi are all the same language
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>>76448824
Trying to kill time before iftar. Don't really have anything else better to do.
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>>76448860
What do you wanna know, mate?
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>>76448810
can't right now. i'll post tomorrow I promise.

Do search for it though, some are great. but you need to search trough 50 tabs of ''aunty'' porn. I found a nice amateur one with a teen Bengali girl in a shower
just great.

and if you're into it search Tamil lesbians
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>>76448853
also yes I understand tajikistanis, though sometimes they use russian words, but I still understand them better than some iranians (though someone with proper fluency in the language could understand all 3 dialects with ease)
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>>76448894
Chi migi bjader?
>>76448895
Afghan e bepadar hasti?
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>>76448830
fine, i like brown, but not black, nor chink or pseudo-white.
where are girls like this?
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>>76448540
white "genocide"

I mean it exists but it's actually more like white suicide
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Gap nazan kette bargha
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>>76448923
Watching another man fuck a women, degenerate. Nude pics are ok, I guess. At least you are not reduced down to a cuck.
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>>76448830
nice meme, to anybody else, all indians are the same and look the same
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>>76449032
barghe bepadar
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>>76449021
boro sara sarak goh kon hamraye ee rafiqaye buygeen et
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>>76449062
keep peddling cringy muh leaf memes
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>>76448895
India is a country of 1.3 billion people

>>76448979
Western and Eastern India. If you ever come to India you can use tinder to nail brown chicks in Delhi/Mumbai
>>76449032
Kinda like Arabs and Iranians I guess
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>>76449074
as wakht sar e rishe padarit goh kardam bjadar
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>>76448762
Awful
>>76448655
ma namyfamim chura u bisyar poo dostdara
>>76448853
Yes just accent different the difference between tajik and farsi is the same between Kyrgyz and kazakh but Iranian farsi is objectivly the ugliest sounding of the three
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>>76449166
Because

>good posters
>nice country
>future superpower
>nice food
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>>76449120
is it expensive?
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>>76449166
male voice: afghan farsi > tajikistani farsi > southern iranian farsi > tehrani/rest of iran

female voice: iranian farsi > afghan farsi > tajikistani farsi
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>>76449220
Barghe bisharaf
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>>76449220
Have you ever met bacha bazi boys irl?
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>>76449198
Are you Chubak?
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>>76449120
>India is a country of 1.3 billion people
don't remind me
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>>76449271
He was one himself
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>>76449271
no but >>76449258 was definitely used by several indian men seeing as how much he likes fellating them here
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I want to learn Urdu brehs

>same script as Persian
>lots of Persian and Arabic words
>same as Hindi so you can communicate with like a billion people

Convince me NOT to learn this language
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>>76449198
Same as Mexico

>>76449299
Is that faggot still around?

>>76449300
We also have nukes for some reason
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allright i'm gone. Going to the bus station to pick up my waifu.
See you all tomorrow.

>>76449299
no
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>0 /stan/ flags
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Post sexy women from /stan/ so I can masturbate and give the bottled cum to >>76449306
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>>76449333
Lean Uzbek stronger cultural and historical ties
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>>76449166
btw how do you know farsi so well
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>>76449360
I am here
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>>76449333
Urdu and Hindi are the same language with different scripts. Punjabi is the alpha patrician's choice though
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>>76449368
My grandpops lived near the Uzbek border and he looked quite turkic so..
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>>76448647
what are you then lol. Turks word came from " Gokturks" so you are not welcome here mongol remnant.
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>>76449405
If I could I would choose punjabi for sure but less resources. I could learn it at the local sikh gurdwara but then I'd have to sit among literal kids
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>>76449428
He is implying that you arent a real turkic.
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>>76449457
Aren't you guys kinda short anyway? I think you'll blend in.
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Calling Turkey Turkic is like calling Pakistan and northern India Turkic. Both have had Turkic dynasties since lkke tje 10th or 11th century

Only difference is that Pakis and Indians managed to preserve their languages whereas Anatolia spoke Greek before the Seljuqs
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>>76449354
at least you guys are smart relatively
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>>76449457
>but then I'd have to sit among literal kids
metani ke goh kadan sareh sarak bareshan yad bide
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>>76449543
I'm 183cm tall

Most afghanshits are manlets because we are poor but with good nutrition I think Afghans and Iranians are genetically quite tall.
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>>76449389
Padarim mara yaddada but as I said before I can't speak it at all the words don't come to my head fast enough I also can't write long complicated sentences

>>76449424
So learn it

>>76449428
siz turkmas siz. siz greek siz eshak
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>>76449581
Khude bisharm, barghe betarbja
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>>76449428
Plz, cockroach, we are true remaining Turks here, along with Uzbeks, Turkmens, Kazakhs, Tatars, Uighuyrs and other Turks living in Russia. But not you definitely. Go to your arab/greek brothers
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>>76449595
>183 cms
kinda short by Jatt standards, but I guess it's passably decent
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>>76449595
>tfw 6'1

also
>lying when you said you were 5'6 a few weeks ago
kys qad pakhsh
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we are the real turkics here. Everyone calling us turks not others. Others are subhuman couldn't do shit against russian.And we made 3 very strrong empire.They dindu nuffin. That's why people call us turks.
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>>76449673
5'11.75 Pashtun here. Tfw Manlet
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>>76448476
Your opinion on Kurdistan?
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>>76449653
I went to Punjab and I saw 2 guys taller than me in 1 month. And those were twins. U mad?
>>76449673
Chura dorogh migi, bargh? Khat a nishan bitte.
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>>76449716
For the benefit of the middle east, it's best if they become a country, seeing how Semites can't do shit
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>>76449699
Please see: >>76449550
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>>76449747
I swear to god you said you were 5'8 or something
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>>76449716
Terrorists
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>>76449792
Then why don't we call pakis and indian turk ?
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>>76449747
>Lying

>tfw 6'4"
>6/7 cousins are all above 6"
In fact the presidential guard can only be Jatt because we are the only ones consistently above 6' look it up
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>>76449791
It's weird how Iraqi Kurdistan and Iran have rival attitude towards each other. I thought that Iranian peoples should support each other instead of fighting.

>>76449818
Why so?
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>>76449830
people in turkey are not turks, they're greek/albanian/balkan transplants, native anatolians, arabs and kurds

some isolated groups are turkic in turkey but even then the admixture doesn't go above 10%
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>>76449814
I never did.

I'd also kms if I were 5'8 here. The average male height is 184cm. I am the shortest guy of my uni friend group, but among my foreigner friends the tallest.

Nowadays GIRLS here are all 180cm n shit.

I need to marry a tall girl
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>>76449839
I am not lying paji.
>>76449850
They blow up innocent iranians and turks
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>>76449877
What do people even eat in the netherlands to become this tall? Or is it because of the air?
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>>76449850
>I thought that Iranian peoples should support each other instead of fighting.
Iran does have a large Kurdish population though. There is a small scale Kurdish insurgency in Iran
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>>76449877
dutch and nords are tall in general, have you muh dikked any white girls yet like a true afgh*n or are your arab genes holding you back
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>>76449931
They eat healthy as fuck food. Lots of milk and cheese. Lots and lots of vegetables. No rice. Potatoes. Bread in the morning and for lunch. Often with chocolate paste and sprinkles. Less meats than us.

Honestly I will NEVER feed my kids a /stan/ diet because it's unhealthy as fuck.
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>>76449910
>They blow up innocent iranians and turks
Weird methods of Independence strife indeed. But don't they have different political groups among them who have different fighting methods?
>>76449983
I've read that they fought against Iran in 1980 Iran-Iraqi war. Also weird. I don't know all details though.
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>>76450003
>asks me this again

Yeah I have dikked a few but the last time was a long time ago

Nowadays I dick foreigners mostly. Nicer and more to my taste.
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>>76450006
Potatoes arent better than rice. Bread doesnt do much in terms of growth. Chocolate is obviously shitty.
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>>76449428
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>>76450052
>iron læg
"Ossetian man"?
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>>76450157
Yep.
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>>76450183
Where do you live?
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>>76450211
In North Ossetia.
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>>76450241
Well, it's logical.
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>>76450157
>>76450183
>>76450211
>>76450241
>>76450307
>Russian conversations
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>>76448628
Bet you live in london and post in /brit/ you disgusting subhuman paki rat. Pigs piss be upon you and your family, vile child abuser.
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>>76450589
Nothing personnel
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>>76450589
Are you mad that a Pakistani dude fucked your girl? Or are you a virgin who is mad about white genocide?

inb4 Paki, nah I'm Afghan m8.
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>>76450769
>afghan

ew
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Why is Afghanistan so united?
Usually multi-ethnic state collapse such as Yugoslavia, USSR, etc.
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>>76450804
Afghanistan is a failed state and is collapsed. One third of it is de facto Taliban territory, and a region is ISIS territory lmao
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>>76450802
It is what is is, nigga.
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>>76450841
Taliban is basically Pashtun Mafia. ISIS is the only foreign element.
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>>76450879
Taliban is a Pakistani creation and thus also a foreign element
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Doing some shopping at Afghan grocery stores for Eid lads
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>>76450924
Taliban was founded by a Pashtun mullah from predominantly Afghan Pashtuns.
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>lads
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>>76451021
In Pakistan, funded by ISI, armed by ISI, used by ISI
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>>76450924
Taliban is just re branded Pashtun tribalism for the 21st century.
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>>76451083
dumbest post 2k17
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>>76451083
lol no
pashtuns are anti-taliban in general
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>>76451236
But the Taliban has been always concentrated in southern Pashtun-dominated provinces.
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>>76451349
people join the taliban for money, most pashtuns are against the taliban because the taliban mostly kills people in pashtun provinces, the government is a failure so people look to an alternative
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>>76451349
Nigga just read the fucking wikipedia article on the talibans creation

None of this is a secret or even slightly controversial. The taliban is a pakistani organisation, and it was so from day 1, and it still is.
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>>76451469
>Nigga just read the fucking wikipedia article on the talibans creation
Whoah, you're sure more knowledgeable on the subject living in the Netherlands.
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>>76451515
I lived under the taliban you fucking faggot

You dont have to listen to me, read this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban%27s_rise_to_power
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>>76451667
>I lived under the taliban you fucking faggot
I haven't known that, asshole.
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>>76451469
>Funding is the same as buying it.

Thanks. I guess?

This claim is actually as retarded. It's basically "W-we're not the one's doing crimes and making cops shoot us, It's INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM". It's just like how kid's blame their siblings when they break something.
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>>76451667
Actually that article is awful

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

And then subsection "History" is good
>>76451722
Youre forgiven sweetie xx
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>>76451722
He's a fag. He claimed that his father is an Iraqi and his mother is the Afghan. He couldn't have been the son of an Athiest Iraqi living in Afghanistan.
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>>76451752
Im not blaming anyone

Taliban was created by pakistan but the vast majority of the members are afghan obviously.

Im not blaming. Both pakistan and afghanistan are getting fucked by them
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>>76451842
he actually did live in afghanistan until he was 7 or 8 iirc, can vouch for his legitimacy
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>>76451075
What is ISI?
In Russia it is known that it was funded by Pakistan and CIA during our invasion to Afghanistan.
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>>76451842
Find the post where I said that you paki fucking rat. Find that now.

You cant, because I literally never said tjat you disgusting piece of shit. The leaf made it up.
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>>76451851
>Pakistan gets fucked by the Taliban

Whut? TTP is a copycat Indian funded proxy whereas the real Afghan Taliban were a Pakistani funded proxy. Taliban never took orders from Pakistan, they were only funded by Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif.
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>>76451880
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-Services_Intelligence
Basically, Pakistan's CIA.
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>>76451914
Kek. And you're an Afghani.

Pic related.
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>>76451880
Pakistani intelligence. Their only objective is funding terrorism in Afghanistan and India.
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Really wanna go to Israel lads
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>>76451880
ISI is our secret services

Also, The Mujahideen and Taliban are two different groups.
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>>76452008
Yes.
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>>76451945
Thanks, failed to Google it myself.

>>76452026
Do you think that without USSR's intervention Afghanistan could have been very peaceful by now? As I understand all these Islamist groups weren't able to do anything when Afghanistan was under Amin's rule.
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>>76451869
Even if that is true, that doesn't make anything he says about Afghanistan and the Taliban legit.

That way I am far more knowledgeable about Pakistan than anyone in the thread and can claim (with more legitimacy than him) that Mullah Omar never took orders from Islamabad.
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>>76452099
Don't know. My parents always say that it went to shit starting from then.

But Afghanistan was always unstable and bound to be poor in my view.
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>>76452026
>Effeciently defend country
>Bad

Waow!
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>>76452171
>Taliban
>defending the country

Kek, they were beaten by NATO in like a day
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>>76452062
I'm sure I've read some articles of the retired CIA agents where they claimed that creation of Taliban was their fault. And they mentioned some interested groups from Pakistan and some other countries who were involved in their cooperation during Soviet-Afghani war. I will throw them here if I'll find them, it was a while ago.
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I hate pakis and indians tbqh
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>>76450589
Nah just hate muslims and islam in general. Scummy ideology followed by scummy murderers and child rapists.
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>>76452155
>But Afghanistan was always unstable and bound to be poor in my view.
Basically because of foreign interventions and lack of the strong leaders who could unite all Afghani peoples, end their tribalist customs, introduce proper educational systems, etc.

And finally start to explore and harvest all the recources and minerals Afghanistan has without foreigners. It is very rich land and this is the reason of all the shit happening there right now.
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>>76452326
Even tho I hate you brits and consider you the cancer of europe, I agree about your view on pisslam
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>>76452223
same
inherent dislike is more fitting than hate though since some indians are fine, every paki I've met has been inbred and/or extremist as fuck
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>>76452363
It shouldn't be a country. It has no reason to exist.
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>>76452460
Pushtuns shouldn't have their own country? As a bearers of pretty unique Eastern Iranian language I think they deserve it.

What else should it be? Part of Iran/Pakistan?
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>>76452363
If you're interested in the history of Afghanistan and Pakistan you may be interested in the documentary Long Live Pakistan: Zindabad pakistan. It's about 1,5 hours and covers primarily topics of Pakistani history, but for obvious reasons its role in supporting of mujahideen and the Talban is also touched upon.

I watched it a while ago on TV and managed later to find it online, but unfortunately all free links were removed apparently. There's a torrent on rutracker but it's half-dead.

Also you could watch some Leonid Mlechin's documentaries.
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When are you all gonna sort yourselves out? You all seem to be filled with pride over pieces of shits you call home
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>>76452690
pashtuns are too ingrained in pakistani society to form their own state now
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>>76451075
the taliban was formed independently in kandahar during the 90's

pakistan was busy supporting hekmatyar during that timeframe
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>>76452690
Don't know honestly. Pashtuns are less than half of the population and there are more Pashtuns in Pakistan than in Afghanistan.

If you want to compare it to another country - look at Bosnia and Herzegovina (only a million times worse). It has the same problem: even IF you want to split the country, how are you gonna do it? People of different ethnicities live next to each other.

But the country is an utter failure, this much is clear. And it will remain that way for a long time
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>>76452729
I'll check them out, thanks.
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My only hope is that somewhere in my lifetime there will be an anti-Islamic revolution in Iran that will spread throughout the region world.
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>>76452215
I was talking about the ISI
>>76452222
It's widely known that Pakistan funded the Taliban but it had no hand in creating it and had little control over it due to it's spontaneous and radical leaders
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>>76453170
Afghanistan would be better if everyone was Shia
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In case anyone's interested, some Pashto and Dari songs.
http://rgho.st/8SjVBgr5n
http://rgho.st/7vrtTBb4V
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>>76454404
What's your story? Are you Tajik?
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>>76454609
Ruskie. I'm into orientalism.
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>>76454852
Are Tajiks your version of Mexicans?
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>>76454885
Pretty much this.
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>>76449428
He's russian that's unfortunate enough to be born in that country
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>>76455315

Is pic related true in Turkey?
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>>76455393
they'll be taught evolution in university
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>>76455393
sad
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>>76455315
Why do you think I am unfortunate?
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>>76455462
I'm not referring to you
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>>76455393
They probably mean teaching jihad in a positive manner and not offensive jihad (so as to prevent people from falling to wahabism).
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>>76455462
Hes talking about the kyrgyz
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>>76455444

Still, that's pretty regressive.

>>76455453
What % of your country do you think are AKP villager comars?

I heard from some other Turk poster that Kemalism is dying out and there are too many arap parasts in the country, he may have been a little pessimistic but how true is it?
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>>76455540
>>76455520
Oh shit, sorry. I'm half-sleeping.
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>>76455547
about 50% of akp voters are çomars
the rest are just apatethic citizens who only care if they can bring food to their homes
kemalism and kemalists are not dying out, they're just scared to object they were always a scared bunch
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I wake up before sunrise and immediately offer prayers to Krishna, then I do pranam to the deity of the sun, Surya, as the sun slowly rises from the horizon, next proceed to a shower, clean my teeth using a Neem twig.

I then face either north or east on a pure sheet positioned on pure grounds, that remains undisturbed by any other object or article. I take 3 sippings of holy water and proceed to put on my forehead, bosom and tow arms a round mark of red powder (tilak). I then meditate on brahman itself for several minutes, before bowing and chanting mantras to the murtis of 5 deities (namely Vishnu, Shiva, Ganesh, Devi and Surya, also known as Panchayatana puja) as a means to raise to higher planes of the swinging pendulum of birth to death to rebirth (in order to the avoid duldrums of lower planes of existence which ulitmately distract the finite brain from contemplation of atman and brahman).

I've read the Vedas and Upanishads 108 times already and can recite Puranas off by heart, all in their original sanskrit. I've also studied the systems of logic from Nyaya, veered off into the Nastika metaphysics of Nagarjuna's Mulamadhyamakakarika, Advaita and Dvaita systems of ontology, the mathematics of Aryabhatta and countless Sutras on all topics and fields.

I avoid all tamasic foods and activities and try to avoid maya (worldly pleasures and attachments) as much as possible, as such all I own is an saffron shawl and i spoil all morsels of food with drops of water, to dull the taste (attachment to sensory pleasures only leads to misery and suffering). I do this because the entire material universe is a merely a distraction from reuniting the soul with the unknowable, infinite and immutable mind that underlies everything one materially senses. I haven't deliberately looked at a woman in 3 years (let alone touched or spoken to one) and I subsist solely off of begging for alms.
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>>76455315
How do you know i am russian, roach?
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>>76455869
But there's no neem in England
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>>76457108
Because you do English
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>>76457108
because it's obvious you retard
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>>76448655
Translation?
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>>76457945
Oh believe me, roach, your kyrgyz cousins here dislike you more than greeks or armenians. They call you arabs and islamists
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>>76458125
i've been there
i spent a month in bishkek
i've seen how people treat us when we say we come from turkey

also, you won't even deny the fact that you are a russian, that's unexpected
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Why are there Russians in Central Asia
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>>76458125
tell putin to send us another jet. we will test something))
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>>76458206
it's sad, they probably thought it was going to be another novorossiya
when communism fell it also took their hopes & dreams
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>>76458238
>>76458303
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpk3p7Vdybc
Look what I found about Turkey !
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why do pakis stare so much? fucking odd people
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>>76458346
informative, unique perspective
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>>76455869
One of the best gimmicks ever
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>>76458174
>i've seen how people treat us when we say we come from turkey
What happens?
>>76458206
Colonization
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>>76459529
they treated us like kings
local restaurant didn't even charge me when i said i'm turkish
this was some years ago though, i don't know if political climate changes people's behaviour over there
there are some kygyz guys in my university, they say it doesn't matter
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>all the islamophobia itt
when are you apostates going to kill yourselves?

Any based muslims should ditch this place and come to /mena/
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>>76460327
where is the islamophobia? Are you Iranian? How do you reconcile stuff like this and then preach shia sunni unity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgOCF2k-PmA
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>>76460442
That was one isolated incident, which resulted in pic related.
Khamenei has said people who do that are kuffar just like Sunni's who insult the 12 Imams.
What you're doing is like what /pol/ does when they claim ISIS is representative of Sunni's.
Also Ahwaz is mostly Arab Shia.
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>>76460595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Io1IADuKK4
mashallah
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>>76459673
Usually the kyrgyz guys who go to study in Turkey are very pro islamist, and some of them even end up joining ISIS. I wouldnt consider their opinion as credible. Normal kyrgyz either will go to study to Russia/West or local university, but nevar turkish
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>>76460754
i'll be sure to let them know your opinion next time they invite me to go drinking
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>>76460657
Mamnoon baredaram.
>That video
Based
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>>76460781
I don't think both groups will ever be at peace, there are too many rotten apples in both groups that benefit too much off the fighting.
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>>76460796
THICC
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>>76460776
I am pretty sure those guys you are chilling with are from the southern parts of Kyrgyzstan. We call them oшмяки, югocлaвы (oshmyaks, yugoslavs i.e. "southerners"). They are not really welcomed here in Bishkek, which is located on the North. Typical oshmyak is religious scum, speaking weird kyrgyz with uzbek dialect, cunning, vicious greedy assholes. Many of them joined ISIS and other islamic terrorist shit
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Seriously guys, when are we going to resurrect the Sassanid empire and declare Zoroastrian jihad on the moon/cross worshippers again?
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>>76460906
you're always assuming something
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>>76460951

Fuck off, this is as autistic as Paganism/Tengrism LARPing.
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>>76460811
Its all politics though desu.
I know a guy from Iraq who told me shia and sunni used to live in the same communities, and that shia/sunni marriage was common back in the day.
He said because of politics its not so much anymore.
But I agree there are too many rotten apples in both groups ruining it for the rest of us.
But at least shia and sunni leaders take steps to weed these people out, and to disavow them.
Yasser Al-Habib for example is a shia supremacist cleric who is known for insulting sunni's and makes youtube videos in the UK now because both Kuwait and Iran have warrants for his arrest.
When the irony of it is you cannot hate sunni's and be a shia as it is against the teachings of the 12 imams.
And I know the Grand Mufti of Al Azhar has said stuff like this http://ijtihadnet.com/fatwa-al-azhars-grand-imam-shia/ which is great.
The Jordan with the Amman message https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amman_Message
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>>76460327
Where there are peoples of all political and religous opinions in this thread.
Also its eid al fitr in Aus so Eid mubarak everybody.
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>>76460976
Statistics, numbers and personal experience
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>>76460990
? I thought iranians are irreligious. A lot of them in the west wear faravahars and say they're zoroastrian, kurds are also converting en masse.
>>76460991
>I know a guy from Iraq who told me shia and sunni used to live in the same communities, and that shia/sunni marriage was common back in the day.
I agree with this 110%, same thing when it comes to different ethnic rgoups too.
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>>76460994
Eid e shoma mubarak :D
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>>76460994
eidet mubarak, roza wa namazet qabul
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>>76461007
first you were saying they were not "normal" kırgız, now you say they're not from the right side of the country, and you probably will say they're not from the right district
i'm sure all the friendly people i saw in bishkek were also from southern parts who were also islamic as you said, all of them.
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>>76461028
>I thought iranians are irreligious
That's diaspora, in Iran maybe 30% are actually secular, maybe another 20% partially secular (like, still want religion in law, but no death to apostates or any extreme shit). Rest are religious conservatives.

>kurds are also converting en masse

Kurds are even more religious than most Iranians, especially Shia Kurds.
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>>76460990
Not larping anymore if people are converting and reverting you butthurt muslim fag.
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>>76461076
Almost all Iranians I know are fervently atheist, but that's just toronto I guess.
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>>76461076
And that 30-50% can be easily pushed into Zoroastrianism. Most Iranians just need to be reminded how important the role of religion is in society.
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>>76461060
There are really huge mentality difference within kyrgyz society. Read this
https://www.rferl.org/a/Future_Kyrgyz_Government_Faces_Traditional_NorthSouth_Divide/2025131.html
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>>76461145
>Almost all Iranians I know are fervently atheist
Like I said, it's diaspora.
But despite what the Khomeinist says, secularism is growing in Iran, as a counterculture to the current religious nonsense. Still not the majority, but likely will be once the older generation born before the revolution dies off.

That's partially why I like the Islamic Republic being a thing, because it's redpilled quite a few Iranians on the shittiness of durka-tier Islam.

>>76461134
>>76461183
>more LARPing

And I'm not a muslim you retard, I don't want any religious nonsense in Iran, whether it's pisslam or zololololololoastrianism.
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>>76461145
Athiests are worse than muslims desu.
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>>76461238
Yes, lets all become athiest degenerates.
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>>76461238
>, I don't want any religious nonsense in Iran, whether it's pisslam or zololololololoastrianism.
what fits then? a natural progression towards secularism?

You're right about living under forced islamic law leading to less religiosity to some extent I think, but a lot of people will still say 'they aren't true muslims' 'that wasn't proper sharia'
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>>76461238
>2050
>60% of Iran reverts back to Zoroastrianism
Kosrow: why are you guys larping, hur duuuur.
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>>76461032
>>76461053
Bar hame doosta inshallah roza e shoma qabul.
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>>76461315
one of the reasons people left zoroastrianism was because it wasn't really a structured religion, the common people didn't know shit, knowledge of the religion was restricted to just the priests, not much of a religion
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>>76461200
i.e. mindset, not mentality. My mistake
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alright koonis

describe your current haircut in one sentence or picture
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>>76461200
i understand the divide but this wouldn't make any of your assumptions true
what you're basically saying is : if a kyrgyz is friendly with turks, then he is a filthy islamist southerner that we don't want anything to do with
yet the one i see here made fun of my friend who was fasting the other day
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>>76461339
Depends on the region of the Persian empire, though youre right it wasnt as organized, but modern day Zoroastrianism is very much organized with a heiarchy, and we can make it even more organized.
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>>76461375
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>>76461299
>what fits then? a natural progression towards secularism?

Yes, I think the Turkish Kemalism ideology would work far better for Iran and most other middle eastern countries.

>but a lot of people will still say 'they aren't true muslims' 'that wasn't proper sharia'

The thing is, the Islamic Republic literally practices Sharia according to the Quran, so you can't really make that argument against them.

When you take the most extreme path, you can't go any more to the extreme, so any deviation will naturally go in the opposite direction.

>>76461315
Superpower by 2050, yes, we've all heard that before.

>>76461339
Zoroastrianism also had a fucking caste system, as well as a corrupt and oppressive clergy class, there's no benefit to it over islam, why replace one oppressive religion with another?

>>76461375
Omar Mateen
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>>76461424
It'll never happen beyond larping kurds trying to be different than arabs and turks, and larping diaspora and youtube comment warriors

the only real zoroastrians left are the ones in iran who have more in common with muslims than anyone else, and parsis in india who are literally indianified in every way possible
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>>76461424
Are you going to marry your sister in Zoroastrian fashion?
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>>76461444
>so you can't really make that argument against them.
a lot of people will anyway, saudi practises sharia quite accurately in many ways but still people say they're 'not true muslim', no matter what implementation of sharia there is, there will always be a group that says they're doing it wrong

zoroastrianism had a caste system? I read something once about pre achaemenid zoroastrianism being very, very different compared to the more clergified and organized sassanid zoroastrianism (also read a funny bit how the 'best' of zoroastrians were those in now modern day tajikistan because they let dogs eat their sick, young and weak and old I think alive)
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>>76461550
Dakhmas are fucking terrifying and insanely unhygienic
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>>76461550
nvm it was bactria, kek
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>>76461405
Just ask where this kyrgyz guy is from, and all will become clear. Northeners, especially from Bishkek, rarely communicate with turks/arabs, and prefer to hangout with local russians/germans/armenians. All my kyrgyz friends are from the north. And you know, being southerner here is some sort of shame, oshmyaks usually avoid questions about their place of origin. Southern girl has less chances to find a bf in Bishkek, lel
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>>76461689
whatever you say ivangul
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>>76461717
Thats true, mehmet, the regional split is so harsh here, some people even think that southern and northern kyrgyz are two different nations
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>>76461761
wakhan corridor kyrgyz are best kyrgyz
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>>76461814
No idea what the fuck is this
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>>76461761
you're not actually kırgız and you don't deny it, then why larp as one
the only reason i can think is to irritate unsuspecting turks
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>>76461848
because you're a russian stooge
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>>76461717
>>76461761
Literally two larpers arguing
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aur bhaiyon
Kya halchal?
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>>76462044
kaun hai re tu?
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>>76461476
Thats not a part of orthodox zoroastrianism but Zurvanism.
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>>76461474
As I said, all religions and ideals start from somewhere. We have the foundation and a population very much interested in Zoroastrianism to get it going.

Also ofcource muslims have alot in common with Zoroastrians, as they literally stole all their shit from us, the christians and the jews. There's nothing unique about islam.
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I'm half Baluchi, am I allowed?
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Brahui here, hola faggots
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jain represent
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hmm...sure, why not, Parsi in da house!
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>>76462044
>>76462325
>>76462653
>>76462676
>>76462725
>>76462747
poo
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>>76462563
>1363 years later
>Zoroasters are still butthurt
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>>76462851
THIS is the welcome we get??? fucking arsewipes, the lot of you
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>>76462676
>>76462725
>>76462747
Could you samefag any harder?
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>>76462900
Ye fuck off poojeet
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>There are currently 100,000 practicing Zoroastrians in Iraqi Kurdistant
>tfw Kurds have a better understanding of their past than most Iranians
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>>76462653
Is Oman good?
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>>76462918
hmmm...i don't think so, sweaty xx
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>>76462967
Nice shot faggot

>expecting anyone to believe that 3 small minorities in Indian and Pakistan all living in America would all post in a row
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>>76463047
>shopped pic
lel faggot
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>>76463074
Again
>expecting anyone to believe that 3 small minorities in Indian and Pakistan all living in America would all post in a row
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>>76463082
i don't know about the others, but believe what you want to, faggot.
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>>76463106
Well whatever, stick to being a Parsi at least
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>>76462932
Kurds are Iranians though.
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>>76461761
What oblasts are southern and northern?
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>>76462966
Yeah, I'm not there because this is my technical homeland (was occupied by Oman before though)

I do visit from time to time
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>>76463299
Is what I hear about Oman being a literal first world country in laws and living standards actually true?
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>>76463344
Yeah.
It's laws aren't the best but they are do-able.
Omanis aren't known to be oil rich because we don't import south Asians and instead use our own people.

We are just too traditional and stuck in the 1700s
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>>76463386
Is it true that you guys are like the Switzerland of the Gulf in keeping neutrality with everyone?

Why didn't Oman intervene to mediate during the current Saudi-Qatar standoff?
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>>76463415
None of our business.
We barely have a military and enough power to speak, plus we hate both sides.

We Also don't intervene in Yemen
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>>76463434
Do you think the rumors that your sultan is gay are true?
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>>76463434
Sorry for badgering you with questions.
What is your opinion of the current sultan?

What are some of the big issues that Oman currently faces?

Why do Oman hate Saudis?

Do Omanis get any flak for the sect of Islam they belong to?
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>>76463462
Nope, he had a wife as far as I'm concerned
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>>76463497
Neat.

Should I convert to Ibadi Islam?
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>>76463492

He's a good ruler, maybe even the best. I hope his successor continues doing what he's doing.

Figuring out who is going to rule next and heat
Monsoon season is coming soon though.

Wahhabists

No, because the fight is mostly between Sunnis and Shias while we try to keep to ourselves.
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>>76463536
If you're willing, I'm not forcing you.
Take a look at this.
http://www.angelfire.com/ok5/ibadhiyah/ibadhisunni.html
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>>76463559
How does Ibadi islam affect Omani society and culture? Like are Omanis more conservative or more tolerant, etc etc


>>76463536
Do you have to 'convert' to a particular sect of Islam as a Muslim? Can't you just decide you're a Shia one day and become a Shia?
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>>76463559
>Wiping the Socks (Al-Mas'h ala al-khuffain)
>this level of nitpicking
Kind of impressive in a perverse way, tbqh
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>>76463642
They're both. they're conservative but accepting of others.
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>>76463694
How exactly are Ibadis different compared to shias and sunnis?
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This thread is nice
>>76463717
I posted a link
>>76463559
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>>76463559
>The unjust ruler will first be requested to practice justice, if he does not respond, he will be told to leave the Muslim affairs; if he does not respond, it is permitted to fight him and remove him by force even if that will result in his death.
>Repentance is the foundation of forgiveness. God does not forgive grave sins, unless the sinner repents before death.

Pretty baller and ahead of its time. I wonder how much it translates to real life practice though. I mean, the Quran talks about not forcing Islam on anyone but that doesn't stop people from trying to convert others forcibly.
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>>76463559
Damn, this is some inspiring stuff
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>>76463725
>Currently, the only approved method of decreasing the stray dog population is shooting by police officers. Because of Islamic misgivings towards dogs, dogs are often stoned or beaten to death by neighborhood teens or adults.
Is this common throughout the middle east?
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>>76463885
We have dog shelters, we only shoot rabid dogs
>>76463805
Both were in practice.
After Sulatan Qaboos' father was hated throughout the country, he told his son (Current sultan) to try to overthrow him because he didn't want to the ruling family to stop but he thought he had to stop ruling.
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>>76463823
Thanks mang
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>>76463926
>hated throughout the country
Why?

>The plight of domestic workers in Oman is a taboo subject. In 2012, it was reported that every 6 days, an Indian migrant in Oman commits suicide.
What could be the reasons for it being taboo? What do you know about this?

>The descendants of servant tribes and slaves are victims of widespread discrimination.
Are these guys of African descent?
How do you tell apart the upper class from servant/slave tribes - from their last name?
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>>76463694
Why there arent many Omanis on Internet ?
Is homosexuality legal in Oman?
Is it legal to marry foreigners?
Can people critic the regime?
Does Oman have "workers" who are basically slaves like Qatar?
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>>76464000
He was an unjust ruler

I don't know anything about this. Any source?

African slave descendants aren't discriminated now, they're considered cool people.
Yeah.
If your last name has al- prefix then you're known as a local.
i.e my family name is al-ka3bi
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>>76463725
mine*
How's the relationship between Oman and Iran?
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>>76464011
Low population, and most of them prefer going outside or have a job.
It's decriminalized, don't do it in public and you'd be extremely fine.
Yes, most don't do it though.
Yeah they can but the ruling family isn't bad so no one critics it.
Some I guess, but they barely make up a visible minority.
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>>76464083
Oops typo.
We're good trade partners, Saudi is thinking we're up to something because we hosted Irani troop training.
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>>76464011
>Is it legal to marry foreigners?
You need permission

>Can people critic the regime?
Nope

>Does Oman have "workers" who are basically slaves like Qatar?
See >>76464000

t. someone who is reading about Oman on Wikipedia right now

>>76464044
I see. It's really cool to have someone from Oman here, I'm learning a lot of stuff.

>Any source?
http://mideastposts.com/showcase/a-taboo-subject-the-desperate-plight-of-domestic-workers-in-oman/

http://www.muscatdaily.com/Archive/Stories-Files/Things-We-Don-t-Talk-About

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/nri/middle-east-news/An-Indian-ends-life-every-sixth-day-in-Oman/articleshow/12934364.cms

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/oman/campaign-in-oman-to-check-suicide-rate-1.1046918
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>>76449303
ooohhhh!!
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>>76464130
I'm not sure about the "every sixth day" fact, jeez that's so much.
but yeah, we aren't that good when it comes to treatment of labour.
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>>76464100
Can you tell us something about marriage in Oman?

How frequently do Omanis marry people from other gulf states?

Is dating acceptable?

What do parents look for in a spouse for their child? Do they look at tribal affiliations, class in society, or what?

How do parents look for spouses for their kids, through social contacts?

Is there a concept of a bride price or dowry?

>>76464183
But why is it a taboo subject?


How acceptable is it to have multiple wives?
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>>76458010
Hello countrymen. Why is OP friend with Indians. They are very dirty people.
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Got a new name for this general,
Let's call it /sairastan/

The sa for South Asia
The ira for Iranian
The Stan for the stan countries
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>>76464207
It's like any Muslim country.

Not frequently, we mostly intermarry with Yemenis, Baluchis and Emiratis.

They're okay with foreigners doing it, but it isn't for most families.

They look for their job mostly

They invite them for a meeting.

Only in Sunni families, I don't think Ibadis do it/care about it.

It's taboo because it makes us look bad? maybe that.
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Pic for next edition
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>>76464357
Oman mentioned!
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>>76464259
Poos out
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>>76464357
It will trigger the Pakistanis

>>76464294
Thanks. What is the average age of marriage?

When will you marry, will your parents choose a bride for you?
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>>76464478
27~

Idk, my parents gave me the option to choose.
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>>76464357
Let's use this instead
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>>76464496
how about no, poo, map is better, go shit in your own thread
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>>76464489
Choose as in find a bride for yourself?

If you don't mind me asking, what do occupation do your parents do?

Do you have any extended family that live a nomadic life?

>>76464504
No bully pls, this is a iranic+sa thread
The map will needlessly b8 Bangladeshis and Pakis
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>>76464534
>The map will needlessly b8 Bangladeshis and Pakis
Why would it?
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>>76464561
>>76464561
>>76464561
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>>76464534
yes.

My father is working as a petroleum engineer
My mother is a tutor
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/sag/
>>76464724
>>76464724
>>76464724
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How common is it to watch bollywood movies in Iran and Afghanistan?

Literally all the AFghans I know have seen all 90s/early 2000s bollywood movies like kabhi khushi kabhi gham, kuch kuch hota hai, dilwale duniya na le jayenge, etc. etc.
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>>76464857
Alot have seen the old movies because it was popular when living in pakistan during the war.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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