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Welcomed to /IRA/
>Iranians
>Azeris
>Turkmen
>Afghans
>Uzbeks
>Kurds
>Pashtun
>Balochi
>Tajiks

>Pakis
>Bengalis
>Shias

Not welcomed
>Zionists
>Edgy Monarchist diaspora
>Khomeinists
>Maghrebis
>Arabs outside of Khuzestan

Also welcomed
>British hating Irish Republicans.
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>>76430787
i will fuck your race if you touch the Caucasus
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>>76430834
We are already fucking your race, so... better luck next time greek.
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Silly me. forgot someone

Welcomed on /IRA/ are also

>Ossetians
And I guess even
>Armenians
we have good relations with them.

>Ingush
>Chechens
>Tatars
>Degestanis
Are all also welcomed
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>>76430834
The Caucasus is rightful Iranian land.
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>>76430917
And
>Kashmiris
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>>76431012
>>76430945
>>76430917
>>76430863
>>76430834
>>76430787
You insensitive Patriarchal aggressor, you're forgetting something.
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>>76431387
Turks aint ALL that bad I guess
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>>76431387
B-based Turks

>Turks
also welcomed here now.
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Why are Romanians made of Islamic particles?
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>>76431387
>anglo newspapers in charge of news
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>>76430787
>pakis
>bengalis
AHHAHAHANANANAJHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>76430787
>IRA
Fantastic
Tiocfaidh ár lá
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>>76431550
honorary Aryans

And that Bengali dude is pretty based.
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>>76430863
you fuck nothing except your mother you shitskin

>>76430945
iran is rightful nuke testing gground
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>>76431580
>Tiocfaidh ár lá

May you be free one day.
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>>76431606
İki take your pills and by pills I mean the whole bottle please.
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>>76431580
Was that the only time in modern era that a middle eastern country funded a European fight. Not even lightly
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Please stop making these cringe threads. Iranics don't want to unite as we all have different identities and languages. Pan-Iranism doesn't even make sense as an ideology. Pashtuns want their own nation, so do Kurds, Persians, Ossetians Baluchis etc.. None of these people identify as Aryans or Iranics before their actual ethnicities.
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>>76431687
>we
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>>76431674
Uhhhmm sweetie ever heard of the bosnian war?
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>>76431687
i'm not a pan-Iranian. The map is just for banter
I just got tired of Maghrebis in /mena/

this is just a place to shitpost with no Arabs.
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>>76431445
>>76431423
>not sure if facetious or think I was defending the Turks
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>>76431687
>None of these people identify as Aryans or Iranics before their actual ethnicities.
You're right but this is diaspora general so nobody gives a fuck what they think desu
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Pashtun master race reporting
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>>76431861
How big is your dick?
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>>76431896
13.5cm
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God willing, soon this unjust border, created by the Russian imperialists shall be crushed.

My Azeri brothers one day will live in one country again.

Baku shall return to the Iranian homeland.
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>>76430787
i've never seen a single afghan flag on int or pol. fix it
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>>76431915
post
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>>76430787
remove this savage empire
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>>76431942
Its a normie country who dont have time for useless stuff like shitposting. I've seen a lot on meme pages though.
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>>76431915
those are rookie numbers
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>>76431942
Saw couple on /pol/ no idea if they were actual Afghans though.

>>76431861
Where are you from?
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>>76431962
This is a blue board
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>UNITED ISLAMIC TURKO-PERSIAN KHORASAN
>SOON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pV2v1pe7rY
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>>76432006
Pakistan, just far north.
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>>76432027
>not adding Azerbaijan
>Balochistan
>Pashtun areas in Pakistan
>Bahrain
>Kurdistan
>Dagestan and Ossetia

shit map 5/10
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>>76432010
imgur.com
go
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>>76432073
No
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>>76432067
Its the natural territories of the ancient province of Khorasan, not greater iran, although it sits within it.
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>>76432038
سلام، دوست
What does "blue marks" mean?
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>>76432120
Dont know
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>>76432120
is this pashto?
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>>76432184
Yes.
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>>76432184
Yes, its afghani pashto
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>>76432248
>>76432248
H-how did you get it's Afghani?
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>>>>76431922
Hell naaaaw. We don't want to unite with panturkist central nigga.
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>>76432280
Its has persian mix, also its hard to understand since I speak pakistani one
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>>76432317
Azerbaijan and Azeris are a central part of Iran.

Some of our greatest Shahs where Azeris.
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>>76432225
Why bother learning it, there's a ton more useful languages out there.
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>>76432354
I don't, I just got curious.
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>>76432343
I don't care. Iran is Persian now, deal with it.

We bring in a bunch of Azeris with totally different identities, language, culture and loyalty and wtf do you think happens?

Multiculturalism doesn't work pal. Homogenous ethnic states are the way to go, always was the case.
Plus we already have enough minorities in Iran who are trying to separate the country, we don't need more.

Only Azeris I would accept would be the Persianized ones, the ones who identify as Persians and speak the Persian language.
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>>76432431
Whats the difference between azeris and persians looks wise?
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>>76432431
Then why do you live in America?
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>>76432431
>Persians and speak the Persian language.
Diaspora cringe.

That land was Iranian for a thousand years. Azeris created some of the finest art, poetry and even empires.

Iran was and will always be multicultural.

And who will they be loyal to? they hate the russkies.
We are more loyal then the Kurds, all we ask is autonomy.

also
>not wanting the richest country in the region
think of all the oil and gas mate.
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>>76432474
Persians aren't a race and they differ in looks from province to province, so a north Iranian Persian would look like an Iranian Azeri and vice versa, Azeris in azerbeyjan though look very different than Iranian Azeris. They look straight up like Armenians.
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>>76432343
>Azerbaijan the country
>Actual Azeri's
That's like saying people from Turkey are actual Turkics
>>76432431
Equally autistic. I don't believe you've ever lived in Iran, and I believe you are lost, please return to your containment board immediately >>>/pol/
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>>76432550
KHOMEINISTS OUT
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>>76432536
arent azeris basically turks right now
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Hi Iran.

Can I join it? I am not welcome because I'm not from Kuzestan, however I am very very anti west and anti britain

What about those Arabs in the south of Iran? and the Iranians in Bhrain and Dubai?

I was going to go to you last year but couldn't due to unforced circumstances. Next year I will restart where I left off inshAllah, revisiting Georgia and Azerbaijan (Baku and Nakhavan only), and going to Iran by land.

I can't go until late next year though because I will need to go to the US at the start of 2017 - even though my foreign passport will have my Iran stamp, my exit stamp for Azerbaijan will have the name of the crossing I cross into Iran from, and because I'm a sexy salafi I'd defo have additional screening.
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>>76432474
None

>>76432431
Iran was never in its history homogenous pal
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>>76432591
>I don't care. Iran is Persian now, deal with it.
he didn't say in history
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>>76432547
Pretty much this desu
Some, but certainly not all Iranian Azeri's tend to be a bit lighter though. So usually when you see a cherrypicked image of an Iranian with light skin, light hair, and blue eyes, chances are that's an Iranian Azeri. But facial features and everything else are generally identical.
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>>76432588
>>76432550
>>76432572
All Iranic peoples and friends are welcome regardless of religious and political affiliations.
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>>76432623
but it's wrong. something like 40-45% are not ethnically Persian

There are more Azeris in Iran than in Azerbaijan for fucks sake
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>>76432588
Samefag w/ name change
>>76432578
Yes they are turkic and very brotherly with Turkey. Mushallah.
>>76432474
Azeris look like turkics and persians like persians.

Within those groups there are too many variabilities and types, but you can literally see a person and know they are persian, and a Azeri and think they are Azeri (or Turkish)
>>76432354
>>76432398
Elliah is confined a soviet union spy who has been blackmailed into serving the state (would totally spy for mother russia (on Britain) should they give me high quality arab lessons - the enemy of my enemy is my f̶r̶i̶e̶n̶d best sexual partner
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>>76432644
KHOMEINISTS ARE ARE TRAITORS THAT SHOULD BE SHOT

Not to mention the dude is also a Marxist and he's just beyond annoying.
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>>76432669
yeah but oersian alone are more than 60% of iran
they are the dominant ethnicity
>>76432688
i know that they speak turkish
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>>76432730
So what?? Almost half the country isn't.

Iran is multicultural, it has always been so.
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>>76432588
>I'm a sexy salafi I'd defo have additional screening.
Unless you have publically said or done anything that would make you seem like a possible threat, I doubt you will be treated any differently than any other muslim.
Iran is a pan islamic country since the revolution, and treats shia and sunni the same and gives them fully identical and equal rights.
There is even unity week, which the Islamic Republic started, which starts on the day sunni's believe is prophet Mohammad's (saw) birthday, and ends on the day shia believe is prophet Mohammad's (saw) birthday.
>>76432698
>I have autism, the post
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>>76430787
Zoroastrian Iran when?
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>>76432770
>''''''''''Ayatollah''''''''''' Ruhollah ''Fucking goats is fine'' Khomeini
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>>76432509
Because I can, and america was always a multicultural country, hence why it's a shithole with no real culture, values or traditions, as it's a bastardized nation.

>>76432536
Sigh.. Iran wasn't always a multicultural society, anyone who thinks this hasn't read Persian history. Sassanids, ironically the people who were the first to start using the name Iran to refer to their nation, for example, started Persianizing their minorities and forcing Zoroastrianism on everyone, and guess what? due to their homogenous empire they lasted much long than the Achaemenids who believed in letting people rule themselves and multiculturalism, this multiculturalism blew back in their face when Alexander came knocking as the Egyptians and Mesopotamians and others all backstabbed the Persians and sided with the invaders. This is what you get in nations where people have a hundred different identities and loyalties.

As for modern day Iran, minorities are becoming heavily assimilated and Persianized, which is a step in the right direction.

Btw, I don't want your azerbeyjan nor its oil. Iran already has enough resources and land.
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>>76432820
Shoo kaffir, shoo
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>>76432799
never it's a fucking meme.

There something I actually agree with the retarded Khomeinist.
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>>76432756
persians created it
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>>76432770
>Unless you have publically said or done anything that would make you seem like a possible threat, I doubt you will be treated any differently than any other muslim.
That's what I'd expect a house nigger to say. Sorry.

>Iran is a pan islamic country since the revolution, and treats shia and sunni the same and gives them fully identical and equal rights.
But not non muslim kek thats why all my edgy Iranian atheist friends put no religion on their id
Come back when you are ummah
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>>76432637
Those cherry picked pics are usually Persian people from Mazandaran, Gilan and Hamedan actually as gingers, blondes and people with colored eyes tend to be more prevalent in those provinces.
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>>76432688
>implying the KGB isnt holding tryouts this week
U will make it Morocco-san

>Russkie's are learning pashto,
RUSSIA PLS NO 2ND INVASION
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>>76432880
The Safavid, who converted us to Shi'ism, were Azeris
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>>76432828
>As for modern day Iran, minorities are becoming heavily assimilated and Persianized, which is a step in the right direction.
That's a cute way of saying Islamized
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>>76432923
persia is much older than 16th century
though truth be told i have very little knowledge of how iran functions
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>>76432941
Two on the left look jew a.f.
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>>76432941
>Islamized
If Islamification includes them speaking Persian as their main language and being assimilated, then Islamify them away, lol.
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>>76432941
99% are already muslim
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>>76433010
IT doesn't!!!!

He's a retarded idiot who says ''there is no such thing as Iranian, just Muslim''
And
''we should speak Arabic''

He's a retarded Marxist-Khomeinist.

I will gladly join the ''iranization'' crowd if we can shoot all these traitors
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>>76433027
''Islamization''

He means ''Arabization''. He's a traitor to his people/ Wants us to speak Arabic and abandon our language, identity and culture.
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>>76432799
Reverting Iran back to Zoroastrianism is absolutely possible but it's probably going to take a couple of decades and generations, step by step. My worry is that people are encouraged to leave islam and instead of becoming Zoroastrian they turn into athiest rejects who are susceptible to degenerate westernization, therefore, for now, I'd rather them stay as moderate muslims.
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>>76433097
no its not
iran is an islamic state and zoroastrians are like few hunderd thousands in numbers
how could you possibly do it
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>>76433097
>Zoroastrianism
Our country is doomed

It's either full ''we should become Arabs hurr durr'
or
''Praise Zoroaster''
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>>76433047
That's not happening. People are leaving Islam in Iran en mass, for better or worse and that guy knows it as well he just doesn't wanna admit it. I can straight up tell you that political Islamism in Iran is a dying ideology and isn't gaining followers but losing them very fast. Our next threat to Persian culture is going to be degenerate western and american influence infiltrating our society and youth, if we don't do something about it you can expect to see sjws, toxic liberalism, 200 genders and gay parades all over Iran in a few decades, the ayatollah will probably be inserting dildos in his koon at the Friday sermons.
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>>76432890
>But not non muslim
Which is a good thing desu
>Come back when you are ummah
We are one ummah. One muslim ummah.
>>76432893
That's also a possibility. But those features are common amongst Azeri Iranians. It's mostly people who stay out of the central desert regions and more in the mountainous regions and border the caspian sea.
>>76432923
The Safavid's also committed a genocide on their Persian Sunni population and imported Arab Shia to replace them. They're also why Afghanistan broke off and became the Sunni Persian state.
>>76432987
Yasser Arafat is Palestinian, and the other one is Ebrahim Yazdi, and Yazdi's are originally from Yazd, home to one of the last Zoroastrian populations in Iran.
>>76433010
Persian =/= Iranian. It includes Afghans and Tajiks. And Persian in Iran today isn't the same language as pre islamic Persian. The Persian language in Iran today has 40-50% of its words shared with Arabic, and that number is increasing due to the cultural shift since the revolution after Pahlavi's fall and his attempt of pre islamic persian revival falling with him.. An Iranian international student at my uni will speak Persian with me just fine, and then will get insulted by a we wuzzer for using "arabic words". Luri is actually the closest Iranian language to pre islamic Persian in case you did not know.
>>76433027
Yes, but the Pahlavi's were trying to westernize Iran under the notion of a revival of "persian culture", and that Pahlavi ideology is the ideology the stereotypical secular Iranian diaspora have.
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>>76433097
>Returning to Zoroastrian fire worship
Why do some iranian diaspora believe this meme?
It's impoosibel
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>>76433132
People are leaving islam and interest in Zoroastrianism is growing. Furthermore, Like all religions you start from somewhere. At one time muslims and Christians used to also number in the hundreds, while Zoroastrians in the millions.
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>>76433228
It's nor diaspora. It's dumb /pol/acks.
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>>76433213
Nationalism is what we need.

With a decent amount of conservatism. We shouldn't exagerate with it though, or will get a counter-reaction of epic proportions

As my father said, ''the Mullahs are destroying Islam, more than the Shah''.
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>>76433253
Put focus on the cultural aspects, before the religious ones.

Like Nowuz...etc.
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>>76433220
>Which is a good thing desu
stop being a house nigger it makes me go soft
>ummah comment
erect again
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>>76433303
Our culture stems from Zoroastrianism. Literally everything non-islamic from Persian culture comes from the Zoroastrian faith, this is why it's so important to encourage reversions rather than athiesm. Best way to make people go back to their culture and identity is through a powerful tool like religion as it will gather the people and organize them.

You don't need to be spiritually religous either to be Zoroastrian. I'm for example a Zoroastrian for cultural reasons while my belief in God is agnostic. Having said that I wouldn't discourage spiritual belief either as it has alot of benefits for society.
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>>76433253
yes in their first years ofc they were small
but zoroastrianism is an old religion older than christianity and islam and it doesnt really have anything new to offer
>fire worshiping
you think people will do that?
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>>76430787
the number of diaspora posters itt is really saddening
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>>76430787
>greater Iran
>Chechnya
Chechens will fuck you worse then Alexander did
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>>76433010
Also in case you didn't know learning Arabic in Iran is mandatory and enforced in school, as it is needed to read the Holy Qur'an, and all Islamic practices and laws are enforced in school and in the country. During Ramadan if you have plates sitting on your balcony during fasting hours the police will come into your house and smash your plates.
So under the Islamic Republic what do you think is going to happen to the Persian language and culture? It's going to get blended with Arabic until they are one and the same.
Not that I support any of this happening, as I like Iranians, Afghans, and Tajiks sharing a common identity, but I am simply stating facts.
>>76433317
>stop being a house nigger
I don't know what you mean by this :/
>>76433303
Nowruz is a religious holiday as much if not more than a cultural one for a lot of Iranians.
And again Afghans and Tajiks celebrate it too.
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>>76433405
Zoroastrianism is the one true monotheistic faith. Islam, Christianity and Judaism are shitty desert versions of this deen. It has alot to offer.

And Zoroastrians don't worship fire.
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>>76433421
Internet is very censored in Iran. What do you expect?

>>76433440
they'll get autonomy, and will join them fucking over the Russkies.
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>>76433440
Don't worry, we don't want your Chechnya, the Russians can have you.
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>>76433492
We'll need them as a land bridge to Ossetia.
They can keep their autonomy and what they want.

Also
>not wanting to help kick Russkie ass
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>>76433480
No we wont. We dislike Middle Easterners. No matter if Arabs or Persians.

>>76433492
Westernized Iranians are the worst
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>>76433400
>>76433471
>Unironically being Zoroastrian
The Persian culture and literary tradition was beautifully cultivated through Islamic civilisation. The original Zoroastrians arent the only heirs to the the culture of persia.
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>>76433612
Pic related
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>>76433460
Where's your proof of any of this? The Persian language has been becoming more Persianized as new words are being added to it everyday and many Iranians are only using Persian words rather than Arabic.

Just a few months ago I saw people on Iranian political shows saying dorood va salam, ON IRANIAN GOV SPONSORED TELEVISION ffs. Even the mullahs know that they have to adapt Persian nationalism or their future in Iran is fucked one way or another.

Most children born in Iran nowadays are being given Persian names, people respect their pre-islamic culture and identity more than ever, millions are literally leaving islam and mosque attendance is going down the drain, people are removing Arabic and foreign vocab in their speech etc... Seriously, are you delusional or just from a village?
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>>76433421
4chans banned in Iran unless you have a proxy.
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>>76433649
he lives in a bubble or is delusional. Ignore him.

He's a ''no borders'' Marxist-Leninist
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All of you subhumans itt must be genocided
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>>76433712
Yea, the guy seems to be living in 80s Iran, lmfao.

Btw, sorry to tell you this man, but what you believe in i.e.. Pan-Iranism is also globalization and Marxism.

You shouldn't want us to "unite" with people who hate us and view themselves as different, speak a different language, have different loyalties etc.. I'm all for letting in Azeris, Kurds into our country and considering them as brothers, as long as they're assimilated, speak our language and consider themselves as one of us aka Persianized.

We need to be smart and have a unified country with one language, culture, identity, loyalty and flag, not hundreds. For once we should copy the turks and arabs and assimilate our minorities fully.

I'm an Iranian myself minority btw and it say this. It's essential for the survival of our nation.
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>>76433861
I'm not Pan-Iranian
I'm literally the opposite of a Marxist. I'm a fucking free-market right-winger......

My loyalties are with Iran, i'm half Azeri, trough my mother. But I still don't agree with this ultra-assimilation thing. Everyone should speak Farsi, true. And I do think we need some nationalism. And of course I will never let anyone take away Iranian land.
But I still don't believe in ''assimilation'', whatever that means.
I think an American system, where all share a common identity, but still retain some of their unique ethnic identity should be the way to go.


>I'm an Iranian myself minority btw and it say this
Which?
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>>76433712
>t. """Muslim""" who fucks his 16 year old neighbor outside of marriage.
>>76433649
>Where's your proof of any of this?
Spending my childhood in Iran and talking to family there, as well as reading about the Islamic Republic, its constitution, etc
But I'm sure most of it is a simple google search away for the out of touch diaspora
>The Persian language has been becoming more Persianized as new words are being added to it everyday and many Iranians are only using Persian words rather than Arabic.
Maybe amongst some we wuzzer diaspora in the west, but not in Iran.
>Just a few months ago I saw people on Iranian political shows saying dorood va salam, ON IRANIAN GOV SPONSORED TELEVISION ffs
Quite a big jump making your assumptions from this 1 isolated incident.
And you should know the northern part of Tehran basically has its own culture, completely detached from the rest of the country.
>Even the mullahs know that they have to adapt Persian nationalism or their future in Iran is fucked one way or another.
Not really. Today's children are the most religious generation since the revolution. The lingering after effects of the Pahlavi's is mainly present in Iran's millennial generation.
>Most children born in Iran nowadays are being given Persian names, people respect their pre-islamic culture and identity more than ever, millions are literally leaving islam and mosque attendance is going down the drain, people are removing Arabic and foreign vocab in their speech
Despite North Tehran being by far the most liberal and secular part of Iran it is still deeply religious and Islamic.
I've heard this a million times from diaspora who have never actually lived Iran. The picture you want to have in your head and reality are two completely different things. Cherrypicking incidents from North Tehran is not representative of the entire country.
You have provided no proof for anything you have said, while I stated facts you can easily google.
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Did someone say IRA?
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>>76434066
Do you even have Iranian citizenship? Genuinely curious.
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>>76434123
>Not really. Today's children are the most religious generation since the revolution. The lingering after effects of the Pahlavi's is mainly present in Iran's millennial generation.

>this much delusion

Sigh, I stopped reading after this. Stats dont back up what you're saying man, and I also go to Iran frequently, have lots of friends and familys there and was born in the country.

Furthermore, Yea north tehran isnt all of Iran, thank god for that, cause if it was representive of all of Iran id want the country nuked. Im not for westernization myself you know as Persian culture and western culture arent the same things, infact we have more in common with muslims and arabs than modern day westerners due to islam shamelessly copying so much from Zoroastrianism and us living in the middle east the past couple of thousands of years.

Having said that, theres no doubt that modern day Iranians are sadly alot more westernized than they ever were compared to the shahs time. A minority may have turned into religous zealots, but due to islamists shoving sharia down peoples throats, not have they only pushed people away from islam but away from Iranian conservatism as well, which has left them prone to athiesm and being influenced heavily by degenerate western culture.

Your kind is literally killing conservatism amd traditionalism due to its stupid actions.
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>>76434324
Not right now. But they'll give it to me if I go to the embassy in Bucharest

But it's way to far right now to go there. I have no car and it's a 10-13 houres route with the train.
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>>76434066
Youre against assimilation? Dude do you even know what that means to be against it?

So youre in favour of multiculturalism and globalization that leaves Iran weak and divided in regards to identity then? Cause thats what lack of assimilation does. If you wanna see Iran get split into 10 pieces then keep on being against assimilation and pro a multi ethnic state.
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>>76434066
>>76434123
>"stone that whore" Iran
>"don't cover your hair, I will cut off your head" Iran
>"Ayotallah is a based mullah" Iran
>"send that child to the minefield" Iran
>"democracy only under a theocracy" Iran
>"gotta ban the afghan" Iran
>"for the jihad conscript the refugee lad" Iran

How can anyone with a modicum of self respect call himself an Iranian nationalist? If you had any shae you would let the Baluch and Kurds go their separate ways
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>>76434602
>shit in the streets poo in the loo
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>>76434602
Being a natinalist doesnt imply that you support your current regime
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>literally all these countries are inferior to every single anglo country, even NZ
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>>76434602
Shut your filthy mouth ghandi gandu.

Iran uber alles!
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>>76434469
>Sigh, I stopped reading after this. Stats dont back up what you're saying man, and I also go to Iran frequently, have lots of friends and familys there and was born in the country.
Me too pal, and nice anecdotal evidence. The Iranian government disagrees.
If you're so in touch with Iran then why do you keep using the term Persian to refer to Iranians, when Iranians themselves don't even do that, and if were to use that term the way you do in Iran you'd piss a lot of people off? Shouldn't you know all this?
>Having said that, theres no doubt that modern day Iranians are sadly alot more westernized than they ever were compared to the shahs time. A minority may have turned into religous zealots, but due to islamists shoving sharia down peoples throats, not have they only pushed people away from islam but away from Iranian conservatism as well, which has left them prone to athiesm and being influenced heavily by degenerate western culture.
You sound just like a /pol/tard and you have the same false ideas about Iran as they do. I'm starting to get the feeling you're larping...
Those Iranians no longer live in the country. And Iran is a 98% muslim majority country. The shah's bastard of a father had to ban hijab because the country was too muslim for him, and he used his police to forcefully tear them off women's heads who still wore them.
Khomeini promised to save Islam and to destroy all traces of the west and the Pahlavi's agenda, and having sharia is a great thing and is a part of fulfilling that promise.
>Your kind is literally killing conservatism amd traditionalism due to its stupid actions.
Islam is inherently a leftist religion that promotes economic and social equality for all muslims. So it is only conservative in regards to the fact that it is a religion that cannot be changed and is the same as it was 1400 years ago.
>>76434515
So you're not even an Iranian then. Top kek famalam.

Anyways I just prayed Fajr so I'm going to sleep.
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>>76434862
>Anyways I just prayed Fajr so I'm going to sleep.
Good night! Hope you never wake up
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>>76434602
Iran took in 4 million Afghan refugees during the Taliban and the US invasion, and we still have 2 million Afghan refugees. You're an idiot.
As for the rest of what you said, there is literally nothing wrong with any of that.
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>>76430787
why and how is regional power in SW Asia shifting to iran btw, haven't found an answer
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>>76434996
yes
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>>76435008
Gimmie an azeri gf and no one gets hurt
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>>76434862
Persian is another word for Fars/Pars, Farsizaban etc. which people absolutely do use to identify themselves nowadays, just ask anyone in Iran, specifically people in ethnically mixed regions.

>Those Iranians no longer live in the country

Iranians are constantly migrating abroad you idiot, and all of them have the same ideas. This mentality isnt only seen amongst diaspora people who've been living here since the 70s.

>Iran is 98% muslim

Yea on paper you doofus, let the people choose and we'll see how many are actually muslim, again, for better or worse.

Jesus man you are clearly out of touch with your own country. Whatever place you came from doesnt represent modern day Iranian society, this aint the 80s no more ahmed.
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>>76434862
>that pic
>one true god
but jews, christians and muslims all believe in the same god anyways, hence the term "people of the book
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>>76434996
As a mixed Iranian, sure, but not traditional looking Iranian.
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>>76435051
>azeri gf
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>>76435261
I don't mind a hairy woman tbqh
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>>76435180
>Whatever place you came from
He lives in Commierfornia
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>>76435244
We are a diverse bunch m8
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>>76435244
God you're an idiot
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>iran thread
>0 iran flags
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>>76435180
>Persian is another word for Fars/Pars, Farsizaban etc. which people absolutely do use to identify themselves nowadays, just ask anyone in Iran, specifically people in ethnically mixed regions.
No they don't lol, and I grew up in Velenjak.
I'm pretty sure you're larping now. Merfame che alon megam?
>This mentality isnt only seen amongst diaspora people who've been living here since the 70s.
Most Iranian immigrants were fleeing the Islamic Republic up until the late 90s, early 00s. After that more of the immigrants tended to be immigrating for economic opportunities, not politics.
>Jesus man you are clearly out of touch with your own country. Whatever place you came from doesnt represent modern day Iranian society, this aint the 80s no more ahmed.
Do you not see the irony in you saying this? Pot calling the kettle black. Nice self projection though m8.
>>76435198
>believing a prophet and a random spirit are god himself
>believing in the same god
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>>76435417
You said you were going to sleep
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>>76435417
well idk pham, it's you muzzies who came up with the term "people of the book" in the first place
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they have nothing in common except for being subjugated by arabs
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>>76430787
Why are bengalis and indians welcomed?
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>>76435417
The ethnic term Fars has been becoming more common nowadays in Iran . Go ask any Iranian what their ethnic background is in a Persian city or ethnically mixed region and see what they tell you.

Bale, man mifahmam chi migin.

You are out of touch with Iran dude, its sad that you cant see that.

Also

>that girl
>bottox

if your representation of religous Iranian youth is supposed to be your pic, then good luck with the regime lasting 1 more decade.
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>>76435622
because they'll come anyways
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>>76435622
Bengali dude is my bro
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>>76434123
Speak of the fucking devil it's you again

Hey I wanted you to check out this image! I found it on reddit :^^)
https://www.reddit.com/r/iran/comments/5g0ngq/you_guys_cool_with_memes/

You are so fucking delusional it hurts and your warped ass fucking cobbled-together worldview is boundlessly inconsistent and insulting.

You think you're some kind of iranian fucking malcom x or something but you're actually a faggot rich immigrant kid with a VERY transparent identity crisis. You constantly shit on diaspora for being against you politically, and you ascribe their beliefs to being diaspora, even though YOURE FUCKING DIASPORA YOURSELF and you don't speak farsi. The most hilarious thing is when people ask why you don't speak it or at least aren't learning it and you babble some incoherent fucking shit about how farsi, urdu, etc are going to literally merge with arabic somehow so you think farsi isn't even a language worth learning.

The reason I wanted you to see this picture and the reddit thread is because THIS IS WHAT YOUR LEFTIST """ALLIES""" BELIEVE. Your frankenstein monster politics fails to account for FUCKING REALITY, which is that this is the sort of thing leftists believe in. You justify your "kill whitey" rhetoric with leftism, saying you're a globalist, anti-imperialist, blah blah blah, it doesn't make any sense. Leftists might listen to your drivel for a few seconds but if they tolerated you long enough they'd hate you.
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>>76435867
You're living in the US (and have been for the largest bulk of your life) and the only good thing you can find to say about it is that it has a large muslim immigrant community. You hate everyone around you because you have this monomania and it's like you live in a box totally disconnected from earth. You're the product of someone impressionable who was fed both marxist and khomenist rhetoric and ate it all up eagerly. You go through some kind of weird logical maze to justify your "beliefs" (aka the aforementioned identity crisis) and it makes you the most annoying fucking faggot on this website. You can be as anti-western and hateful as you want and you justify it because you think the west has some inherent magical malicious power over everyone else.

Another weird thing is that you have a sort of arab fetish and I'm thinking that's another piece of the puzzle, like one of your parents is iranian and the other is iraqi or something. You always talk about how intermixed with arabs iran is, and you're really strangely adamant about it; I mean for someone who calls himself race-blind (holy fucking lmao) you care an awful lot about ethnic arabization of iran.

Anyway I really hate you and every time I come across you I strongly consider finding out where you live and driving over there and murdering you.
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>>76435463
I went to brush my teeth. I saw he replied so I replied too. I'm about to turn my computer off in another minute or two though.
>>76435491
Jews worship the same god, as do christians who don't believe in polytheism. But most white christians are polytheists.
>>76435536
Arabs were subjucated by muslims too. It was because of Salman Al-Farsi's idea to build a trench in Medina which won the muslims the holy city and converted its pagans to Islam. Also most of you aren't even real Arabs, unless you're a Saudi or Emirati.
>The ethnic term Fars has been becoming more common nowadays in Iran
No it's not. You really are out of touch and/or larping.
>Go ask any Iranian what their ethnic background is in a Persian city or ethnically mixed region and see what they tell you.
>Doesn't know what Velenjak is
Is this b8?
>Bale, man mifahmam chi migin.
So you're a westernized diaspora who is out of touch and fantasizing or simply shitposting for (you)s. It's like you lurked /pol/ and developed your opinion based off what they say.
>You are out of touch with Iran dude, its sad that you cant see that.
Irony at it's finest. I suggest you look in a mirror.
>if your representation of religous Iranian youth is supposed to be your pic, then good luck with the regime lasting 1 more decade.
It's not and I never claimed it is. Just a qt I posted. Even though hijab is mandatory under the law of the Islamic Republic, no where in the Holy Qur'an does it say wearing hijab is mandatory, but it is sunnah and is recommended, but that is up to the individual.
You can still be a practicing muslima and defend your religion without wearing hijab.
>>76435867
I'll read your post in the morning, but seeing your flag and your autistic sperging out in your first sentence I'll be sure not to take what you say seriously.
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>>76435909
>But most white christians are polytheists.
ah, i get it, the whole father, son, holy spirit thingy
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>>76435909
>So you're a westernized diaspora who is out of touch and fantasizing

Jesus christ how HOW HOW are you so fucking insolent
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>>76430787
>Also welcomed
>British
is all I could see in the preview, pretty rude OP
JAVEED SHAH
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>>76436127
This guy's delusional as fuck.

Iran is gonna turn into a liberal shithole due to people like him constantly shoving shit down peoples throat when they dont want it,
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>>76436261
>a clientelistic theocracy that panders to the underclass is better than liberalism
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>>76436127
>>76436261
Khomeinists are traitors

We need to shoot them
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>>76436261
Does be think he's not diaspora? His type of attitude is also common among chicanos here, people whose parents came here and they don't speak good spanish and the don't feel "american" so they develop this annoying nationalism for mexico that both americans and mexicans hate. Second or third gen identity crises are a common phenomenon in immigrants, and somehow he thinks he's exempt from that.
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>>76435867
Actually I'll just bite and then go to sleep
>links Iran subreddit
I suggest checking out /r/Iranian. /r/Iran is full of people like you.
>YOURE FUCKING DIASPORA YOURSELF
I'm a student taking advantage of the american educational system... where else would I be?
>you don't speak farsi
I have a bunch of times, and have even done so itt.
>when people ask why you don't speak it
When has this ever happened? I have never been asked this before ask I speak farsi a lot with other farsi speakers. Shoma farsi balade? Khar haste?
>THIS IS WHAT YOUR LEFTIST """ALLIES""" BELIEVE
They seem pretty islamophobic to me. Pretty ignorant of you to generalize all leftists.
And regardless the democratic party defends our rights, while the republican party wants to block us from entry into the US.
>>76435903
You stalk me? Pretty creepy tbqh
And no both my parents are from Iran, as am I.
And damn bro those generalizations and that self projections. Calm your autism.
Also you clearly have never met a muslim in your life.
>>76436261
Nice self projection m8. I mentioned basic stuff about Iran and you had no idea what I was talking about. The jig is up.
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>>76436336
In a lot of ways it is.

if you want to see what modern day liberalism and leftist doctrine does to a society look at america or any western nation.

I'm myself a secularist, nationalist and want reform, but emulating the toxic western culture is probably the dumbest thing you could do.
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>>76436401
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE IS!! HOLY SHIT IT FITS SO WELL....

>>76436336
Nationalist Secular Conservatism is my way.

But i'll take hippie liberalism only to shit on the Mullahs and Khomeini.
Curse them all.
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>>76436488
>american clientelistic liberalism is an example of all forms of liberalism
Lol underage
>implying secular nationalism is incompatible with liberalism
Mosaddegh
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>>76436415
>Nice self projection m8. I mentioned basic stuff about Iran and you had no idea what I was talking about. The jig is up.

Says the guy who thinks Iranians are more religous now than the shahs time.
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>>76436415
>when has this ever happened
pic related fucking neck yourself

>you stalk me?
Yeah that's a really great fucking catch-all for any of the billions of hypocritical things you say. If you want to be sheltered by anonymity so you have the luxury of being such a stupid faggot you shouldn't have a name on one can easily look in the archive for.
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>>76435903
WELL SAID, ABSOLUTELY PERFECT.

>Anyway I really hate you and every time I come across you I strongly consider finding out where you live and driving over there and murdering you.

DO IT

These traitors deserve only death.
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>>76436669
>unholy language

The day of the rope can't come soon enough. These people need to be executed.
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>>76436563
>But i'll take hippie liberalism only to shit on the Mullahs and Khomeini.
Curse them all.

You shouldnt, not even to piss them off. What we need to do is reclaim these conservative values under Persian culture and zoroastrianism. Dont let the mullahs steal our values and beliefs and claim them as theirs only.
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>>76436488
>secularist, nationalist
Like literally every Iranian diaspora shill on 4chan. You've engulfed yourself in an echo chamber and refuse to believe in anything else.
>>76436401
>His type of attitude is also common among chicanos here, people whose parents came here and they don't speak good spanish and the don't feel "american" so they develop this annoying nationalism for mexico that both americans and mexicans hate. Second or third gen identity crises are a common phenomenon in immigrants, and somehow he thinks he's exempt from that.
This is exactly what "secular nationalists" like you are. You really are full of projecting yourself onto others.
>>76436631
I said since the shahs time, not more than the shahs time. Learn to read pls.
>>76436669
I said I only knew how to speak Farsi until I was 6, and after that would use it when I would speak with other Farsi speakers. How is the same as me saying I don't know Farsi? Are you mentally retarded?
>If you want to be sheltered by anonymity so you have the luxury of being such a stupid faggot you shouldn't have a name on one can easily look in the archive for.
Don't you think you have an unhealthy obsession with me? Maybe you should see a therapist before you go on a shooting spree or decide to kill yourself.
>>76436715
Arabic is the holy language of Islam. To say otherwise would be committing apostasy.
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>>76436715
ZOROASTRIAN HOLY WAR NAAAAO!

REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>76436721
>Dont let the mullahs steal our values and beliefs and claim them as theirs only.
Weird....

That's exactly what my father told me, when i said I don't want to be a muslim.

''don't let them take Islam away. Show people that those bastards aren't the only muslims, and that their Islam isn't the only one''

Still sorry but I don't like the Zoroastrian meme. Shia Islam is still fine for me. Not Khomeinism though.
I follow Ayatollah Sistani nowadays.
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>>76436779
>Arabic is the holy language of Islam. To say otherwise would be committing apostasy.
You need to be put to death.

Change your name you Commie faggot. You don't deserve to call yourself Iranian.
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>>76436779
Yea im having a hard time believing this guys actually iranian. Pretty sure hes larping.

Btw, wheres your proof that the new generation of Iranians is heavily religous?
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>>76436859
You know what the punishment for apostasy is right?
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>>76436873
>Btw, wheres your proof that the new generation of Iranians is heavily religous?

>inb4 state TV propaganda
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>>76436817
Shia islam is the same garbage that produces people like this fella who calls himself "Iranian".

Zoroastrianism is intune with our Persian culture, language and values, if you dont like it then you dont like your own identity. Just revert and het it over with.
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>>76436873
>Yea im having a hard time believing this guys actually iranian. Pretty sure hes larping.
Yeah because all I've done is state facts you can fact check yourself, as opposed to everything you saying being your objective opinion.
Damn bro you got to stop the self projection.
>Btw, wheres your proof that the new generation of Iranians is heavily religous?
Imam Khamenei's own mouth. Now where's your proof for anything you've said so far?
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Seriously he lives in either LA or SF, he goes at some University there. Find him and run him over with a truck

>>76436891
>not wanting to speak Arabic is apostasy
>Khomeinist ''''''logic'''''''
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>>76436954
If you don't know Arabic how can you read the Holy Qur'an, know basic islamic phrases, or even know what you are saying when you pray?
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>>76434948
>Persian lies
Do you want me to start posting links of how Afghan refugees are harassed and tortured by the state in Iran, or do you still have any shame left in you?
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>>76436941
You can infuse the 2 and slowly morph them.

Trying to go all out with ''praise Zoroaster'' will get us a Islamic counter-reaction.

We gotta learn from the Shah and Khomeini. No pushing things down peoples throat.

I'm still content with my Shia faith. Which has little to do with that retards Khomeinism.
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>>76437022
Sure go ahead.
And Afghans are Persians too, so idk what you mean by "Persian lies"
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>>76437022
IGNORE THE RETARD.

Yes Afghans are treated like utter shit by the regime. The only time they care is when they send them in Syria to die for Bashar.
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>>76436945
>all ive done is state facts

Facts is backed uo by data and statistics, which you havent provided cause you know you're full of shit.

>Imam Khamenei's own mouth.

Fucking Kek
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>>76436941
>Zoroastrianism is intune with our Persian culture, language and values
Do you live in Los Angeles to complete the package or are you just this cringe worthy?
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>>76436945
>Imam Khamenei's own mouth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>76436941
Why do u think persian culture only exists prior to the islamic invasions? U cant deny that the islamic persian world made alot of worthy contributions as well, which are more relevant in todays age rather than reviving dead fire worshipping religions.
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>>76437086
>Facts is backed uo by data and statistics, which you havent provided cause you know you're full of shit.
Google search and fact check me then. I'm not going to take the time to spoonfeed you.
Meanwhile everything you've said is all anecdotal and is supposedly based on your own experiences.
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>>76437027
Yea obviously Im not speaking of shoving things down anyones throat, but reverting people step by step. It would most likely be a slow process that would take a generation or two if done right, but we have to start from somewhere.

Btw, you realize that shia islam you believe in does infact view arabic as the language of god right? As long as we're muslims that kind of belief will be spewed in Iran.
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>>76437151
Yeah I disagree with him on the Zoroastrian thing

We need non-Khomeinist Shia Islam. And there's plenty of that in Iranian history.

We do need to massacre the Mullahs though.
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chura bu thread romanian maykud U bisyar ahmaq ast
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>>76437151
This. Cultures and languages evolve over time.
Larping as a dead civilization from 1400+ years ago is just cringe worthy, and is something far too common amongst diaspora and is likely due to having no actual connection to their home land and being indoctrinated by growing up in the west.
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>>76437192
As I said, you have no facts to back what you're preaching.

>muh religous yooouf

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/11776241/Friday-prayers-in-the-Islamic-Republic-of-Iran-but-where-are-the-worshippers.html

Its over khomanie.
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>>76437250
Nemedoonistam shoma farsi metone sobat koni. Mashallah dadasham.
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>>76437292
>This. Cultures and languages evolve over time.

you do realize the irony of what you say?
>>
he lives in San Francisco. Can you find him and kill him please?
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>>76437151
So you want me to become a moon worshipping muslim, a religion that entered my nation violently, preaches arabization, culture, names and idolizes arabs?


Nah mate, im not a cuck.

Ill take my authentic Persian religion that your cult shamelessly copied over your shit any day of the week.
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>>76437330
>The Telegraph
>The blogpost of a western ""journalist""
He doesn't provide a single shred of evidence to back up anything he says.
Are you going to link me to your blog next?
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>>76437250
Dega ki thread a jur kuna? Khudet am metani ama fikir mekonum ke akshay Timur mendozi.
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Too many Iran*ans in the thread Afghans are so much better

>>76436941
This is the Average Iranian Diaspora PRAISE CYRUS BRO LE PEAK OF CIVILIZATION PRAISE ZOROASTER kys
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>>76437418
>a moon worshipping
Come on....
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>>76437418
t. pic related
>unironically using the word cuck.
Larping /pol/tard detected
Do you think whites are cucks too for adopting christianity?
>>76437352
Islam is different. It is the message and teachings of Allah. I mean we have evolved past our pre islamic language and culture towards our current day language and culture.
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>>76436945
I already btfo you twice regarding the exact same question

>... no more than1-1½% attend Friday prayers, and lots of those who do are dragooned into being there. Three years ago one cleric said that73% of Iranians did not even say their daily prayers.[8]
>According to Zohreh Soleimani of the BBC, Iran has the lowest mosque attendance of any Muslim country;only 2% of adults attend Friday services.[9]


http://www.economist.com/node/1522124

http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LK30Ak02.html&date=2012-11-30
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>>76437506
>Too many Iran*ans in the thread
>/ira/

Let me guess /tr/ is full of Turks.
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>>76437151
>than reviving dead fire worshipping religions.
Paganism>>>>Islam
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>>76437250
Translation?
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>the Democratic party defends our rights
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>>76437551
>A secular democracy-in-waiting
Yeah that doesn't sound like a bias article trying to push an agenda or anything just by the title.
And everything they say is 100% anecdotal that has no credibility or has any of its claims sourced to back it up.
You might as well write something on the huffington post yourself and link it to me.
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>>76437551
Also relevant
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/11776241/Friday-prayers-in-the-Islamic-Republic-of-Iran-but-where-are-the-worshippers.html
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>>76437054
>Between 400,000 and 1 million people in Iran are estimated to lack Iranian nationality despite having an Iranian mother.

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/10/iran-afghan-nationality.html#ixzz4kvfmqX8t

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/21/world/asia/for-afghan-refugees-in-iran-painful-contradictions.html

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/05/afghan-refugees-leaving-iran-160511103759873.html

https://www.hrw.org/news/2013/11/20/iran-afghan-refugees-and-migrants-face-abuse

Let me know when you're done so that I can post more links
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>>76437688
That's because they're all illegal immigrants, Iran is not the U.S. where you can hop over the border, have a baby, and that baby automatically gains citizenship.
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>>76437436
>B-B-BUT muh western propaganda

>this much denial!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aTVVb1Cxypw
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>>76437654

A secular democracy is pretty much the consequence of the fallung relugiosity of iranians so it isnt biased at all.
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>>76437418
yeah but like as the other guy said iran contributed greatly to the islamic golden age and has a long history with islam. saying islam isn't the religion of iran is like saying europe should become pagan again, it's stupid.

cultures adopt religions. iran is a middle eastern country and has always been politically and culturally aligned with the middle east. europe is certainly not cucky for being christian and iran isn't cucky for being muslim. I don't know why anyone would ever have to explain that actually.
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Holy shit, this thread.
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>>76437586
How about neither?

I don't get why people think we should choose between Paganism and Islam, the solution is secularism.

Anyways what Iran needs is another Reza Khan.
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>>76437714
>the country called the great devil is more moral than Iran
Then drop the pretence that you actually give a shit about refugees
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Imagine not only being an Iranian sandnigger but living in the fag capital of San Francisco. The absolute state of USA
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>>76437789

Unsurprisingly, the Khomeinist shits up every thread he wanders into.

>>76437839
Who says Iran cares about refugees?

And there's nothing immoral about not giving citizenship to illegal immigrants.
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>>76437767
>I don't know why anyone would ever have to explain that actually.
It's because /pol/tards want people to leave Islam (which I also agree with desu). That's pretty much it. They laugh at retards like Varg for being a pagan again but they pretty much tell others to do the same.
That being said being a fire worshiper in the modern era is autistic
>>76437719
>Flames of zoroaster
>I'm a kurd and if you dont know who the kurds are. We were zoroastians to but we fled to the mountains when islam took over iran. and i have only started to discover zoroastianism and i get tears in my eyes when i read about zoroastianism and feel a very strong connection
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shitskin club hmm
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>>76437891
Every time.
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>>76437444
Not the Gypsy fucking Romanian don't worry I don't like starting threads

>>76437561
last thread it was filled with Afghans and it was better

>>76437418
>MUH 100% AUTHENTIC TRUE PERSIAN CULTURE
I have one question to ask you what has Iran done in the last thousand year's for someone to have this arrogant attitude??

>>76437625
Learn Farsi
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>>76437586
Thats the thing, zoroastrianism isnt paganism, it's monothiesm and provides everything good regarding vlaues and morals that abrahamic religions do, except its not as militant or strict as islam I.e. no sharia bullshit that forces people to live in a religous environment, plus it promotes our language, culture and identity since it was founded by our people, while islam is an arab religion no matter how much you want to spin it.
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>>76437903
not ideologically consistent /pol/tards

(like me)
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>>76437830
>Anyways what Iran needs is another Reza Khan.
this. His son was pretty retarded.

But Reza Khan was fucking based.

>Unsurprisingly, the Khomeinist shits up every thread he wanders into.
And people call me the worse poster
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>>76437839
Are you that Afghanboo? Kill yourself.
>>76437830
A country needs a moral barrier.
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>>76437688
You only get Iranian citizenship for having an Iranian father. Just like in Islam your father can marry non muslims but the mother must marry a muslim for the kid to be a muslim. This applies to everyone I don't see what point you're trying to make with this.

But at least what your links have sources to back up what they claim.
As for the rest of your links those incidents are very sad if true. But you're going to have bad apples in every group, in this case uneducated rednecks who treat their Afghan brothers poorly. I don't think it would be fair to generalize this as the norm though as that is just corruption by individuals and what they are doing is illegal, and if caught they would face serious trouble.
>>76437719
Post links that have any bit of credibility at all.
>>76437758
Any actual sources or evidence to back up that claim? Your blogpost was anecdotal.
>>76437970
>the biggest enemy of Islam was based.
You really are shameless, still daring to call yourself a muslim.
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>>76437930
You'll fit right at home then.

>>76437959
>>76437968
>caring about a dead religion

That's literally the definition of LARPing, who gives a shit who came up with either religion.

You, like the Khomeinist, seem obsessed with Arabs to the point where you base your entire political ideology around them.
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>>76438055
>You really are shameless, still daring to call yourself a muslim.
Just go die in a ditch
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>>76437959
It's duo theistic there is a good god and an evil god just because one god is evil doesn't make it monotheistic
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>>76438072
>You, like the Khomeinist, seem obsessed with Arabs to the point where you base your entire political ideology around them.

You truly are based mate. Never saw a more based poster here than you.

Except supporting Assad of course
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>>76438077
>repeatedly calling for the death of another muslim and encouraging other people to do it.
You know that makes you a kaffir?
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>>76438072
I was just saying I didn't like zorolarping
Read the thread
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>>76438072
>leaf
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>>76438095
Do you expect a LARPer to actually understand anything about the religion he is LARPing?

Now that I think about it, it's always the LA Iranians (both the zolololoastrian larper and the Khomeinist) that are batshit insane.

Something about the American West Coast fucks up peoples' minds.

>>76438126
Thanks lad, you too.
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STOP talking about pisslam

the persians are too pure for this filth
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>>76437830
Cause people without religion turn Into athiest degenerates 9/10

Plus you want to bring back persian culture fully and base our society around it? Zoroastrianism is the best way to do that.
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>>76438095
Hows that at all different to the concept of God and satan?
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>>76438055
>Islam
>Following a religion that was forced upon you by invaders rather than the faith of your ancestors

I guess all the Zorastrians and Sunnis of integrity were killed by the invaders, while only collaborators and snitches like your ancestors remained. You are the one who's shameless. Also answer the following questions:

>Why is polygamy taboo among Shias?
>Is there any awareness towards the Kashmir issue in Iran?
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>>76438234
God created Satan
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>>76438055
How about the report from Zohreh soleimani?
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>>76438178
Islam, for better or worse, is a part of our history and culture.

I'd rather not get rid of all the achievements Iranians have done while being Muslim.

>>76438182
>Cause people without religion turn Into athiest degenerates 9/10
Tell that to the Turks.

>Plus you want to bring back persian culture fully and base our society around it
No, I want an Iran that is prosperous and modern, and Zoroastrianism provides neither of those things. Secular nationalism is the way to go.

Also "Persian nationalism" is the quickest way to end up with a balkanized Iran.
>>
>>76438178
>>76438178
>the persians are too pure for this filth
This. Iran needs to realize its glorious history that is much superior to what the shitty Arabs peddle. Zoroastrianism needs to make a comeback.
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>>76438237
>Why is polygamy taboo among Shias?
it's not. It's taboo among Iranians though.

>Is there any awareness towards the Kashmir issue in Iran?
Khamenei is a hypocrite, he doesn't give a fuck. Neither of Kashmir or the Rohynga genocide or the Uyghur oppression in Xinjiang or the Chechens being butchered by Putin..

He is a shameless bastard with no dignity.
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>>76438284
Literally kys you poo
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>>76438284
well india already practices a le based aryan religion and it's still a shithole
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>>76438274
>Cause people without religion turn Into athiest degenerates 9/10
>Tell that to the Turks.
Don't go there
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>>76438284
Bhai you misunderstood me.

I don't want no LARPing. Just atheism
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>>76438262
But satan is a god though, in the sense where he's a powerful entitiy.

You seriously trying to deny Zoroastrianisms influence on abrahamic faiths?
>>
Should we merge /ira/ with /sag/? Would help increase the amount of posters here, plus /sag/ is pretty much dead at this point.

>>76438342
Why not? Turks, as much as I despise them, have a pretty based form of secular nationalism (Kemalism).
>>
Daily reminder: If a person is decent only out of fear of god, he was a shitty person to begin with. Only a person who is good without believing in a good is worthy of respect
>>76438182
>athiest degenerates
>who was Einstein?
>who was Bertrand Russell?
>who was Diogenes?
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>>76438274
>Also "Persian nationalism" is the quickest way to end up with a balkanized Iran.
Thank you.
i could never support the erasure of my mothers language and culture.
i really dislike this hyper ethnic nationalism
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>>76438429
*god
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>>76438237
>>Following a religion that was forced upon you by invaders rather than the faith of your ancestors
So every muslim ever?
>>Why is polygamy taboo among Shias?
It's not. Khomeini had multiple wives, as do many people in Iran, especially in the villages, and including Rouhani's.
It's less common for people who live in major cities, but I think that trend is the same for most if not all muslim countries.
>>Is there any awareness towards the Kashmir issue in Iran?
Not really. Rightful Pakistani clay but that's about it as far as I'm aware of the topic.
>>76438272
>1 random cleric, which is where almost all these claims stem from.
You're going to need more consistency.
>>76438284
Cringe
>>76438314
>it's not. It's taboo among Iranians though.
Says the guy who's not even an Iranian citizen lmao.
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>>76438371
I guess so but you would need to change the name of the general.
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>>76438371
>/sag/
sure

i'll make a new thread when this ones over
>>
>>76438371
I lived in turkey for a while and turks are religous as hell, what you talking about?

When I say bring back zoroastrianism im not speaking of mixing it with the government, but encouraging it amongst people and encouraging reversions.
>>
Kerrom da deen it
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>>76438237
Do you also believe Europeans should start worshipping Odin and Zues again, and that Saudi's should go back to stronk arab paganism?
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>>76438477
>Says the guy who's not even an Iranian citizen lmao.
Are you stupid......
Polygamy is almost non-existent in Iran.


What does that have to do with my citizenship? besids a straw-man.
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>>76438477
Its atleast something. I provided more proof than you ever did for your claims.
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>>76438477
>So every muslim ever?
Actually not SEA and Bangladesh for some reason. That happened through merchants.
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>>76438360
God is stronger then satan he allowed him to live because they made a deal about how many how many humans he can bring to hell with him. This is not even close to the case in Zoroastrianism there are two God's who are equal to each other if the good one can be considered a god then the evil has to be too since there equal strength that's not the same thing in Abrahamic faiths God is clearly stronger then Satan he is allowing him to live.

>You seriously trying to deny Zoroastrianisms influence on abrahamic faiths?
No All I'm saying is that Zoroastrianism is a DUO theistic faith that is all no matter how much you want to deny it
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>>76438477
>and including Rouhani's.
Now I know you're LARPing

Rouhani has 1 wife you retarded idiot,.
>>
>>76438371
>Should we merge /ira/ with /sag/?
Nah /sag/ is shit. Too many idiots with insecurities that can't handle banter.
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>>76438535
>Polygamy is almost non-existent in Iran.
In cities it's far less common, but that same trend exists in most if not all muslim countries.
It's more common in villages, and it's not uncommon for Rouhani's to have multiple wives.
>What does that have to do with my citizenship? besids a straw-man.
How would you know if you've never once been to Iran in your life? Everything you know is based on what you read and hear, not what you actually see with your own eyes.
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>>76438437
If minorities dont want to assimilate then us Persians will seperate from them. We in all honesty dont need you nor your provinces as you have nothing to offer.

Id rather take a smaller country if it meant a homogenous population and united identity.
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>>76437418
>>76437586
U guys are such cucks your barely even know the rich heritage of the Persian language and culture just because it doesn't fit your narrative. The Persian language underwent a cultural and linguistic revolution during the post islamic period that produced powerhouses the likes of:
>Rumi
>Rudaki
>Hafez Shirazi
>Saadi Shirazi
>Ferdowsi

The works of these men instantly made the persian language, which suffered a significant impact by the arabs, one of the most renowned around the world for its linguistic beauty.

Interseting facts:
>Almost all of these great men incorporate the islamic praise of God in their works
>The only reason u niggers can even larp about this pre-islamic past is because a turkic muslim shah, Mahmud of Ghazni, issued Ferdowsi with the task of developing a poetic epic of the pre-islamic over the course of decades which came to be known as the Shahnameh.
>The works of these muslim linguistic scholars serve as the basis of the very language u speak now.
>>
>>76438637
Then go fuck yourself.

you'll fuck Iran over for your fantasies
>>
>>76438510
>and turks are religous as hell, what you talking about?

You haven't been to western Turkey then, that's where all the Kemalists are.

>but encouraging it amongst people and encouraging reversions
For what purpose though? Like I said, this is the definition of LARPing. Why resurrect a dead religion? Why not just go for secular nationalism?

>>76438540
The Khomeinist speaks so confidently about Iran, yet he's completely illiterate in Farsi and has never actually been to Iran.

>>76438637
>let's reduce the size, population, and resources of Iran just because it hurts your feelings
Thankfully you're not in charge of Iran.
>>
>>76438328
>comparing subhuman to humans
>>
>>76438371
>>76438493
Please don't. /sag/ is full of Muslim baiting shitposters. I came here to escape from there

Join /mena/ instead.
>>76434675
>>76433281
>>76430977
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>>76438595
Rouhani is the proper way to say Mullah you uneducated dipshit.
The word "Mullah" is insulting and disrespectful. The proper term for clerics is Rouhani's.
President Rouhani just happens to have Rouhani as his last name.
>>76438540
Google search and fact check. I'm not going to take time to spoonfeed you.
And the claim of 1 irrelevant guy is not proof. Show me 5 relevant clerics claiming the same thing and you might have a case.
>>
>>76438686
>Join /mena/ instead.
i made this thread to get rid of Maghrebis.
So no thank you
>>
>>76438568
Also central Asians weren't forcefully converted only real Persia and North Africa were converted by Arabs
>>
>>76438593
So according to your own logic, islam, a religion that prides itself on monothiesm, copied a dualistic religion.
>>
>>76438686
Fuck mena
>>
>>76438757
loubna pls
>>
>>76438637
You do know that the homogenous society meme is an european invention which only brought misery to the world? Turks killed armenians because of that. And Ukrainians chopped polish babies into pieces. And many more atrocities. It has no place in the middle east or iran.
>>
>>76438531
>Odin and Zeus
Definitely

>Arabs
No, since Islam is an Arabic religion

>>76438314
>>76438477
Thanks
>>
>>76438371
NO THEY WILL SHIT UP THE THREAD WITH CASTE INSECURITIES AND THEIR EMBARASSING INFERIORITY COMPLEX
>>
>>76438728
well my mistake here. Should have read more carefully

You're still retarded though, give me 1 example of a Mullah having multiple wives.
And don't give someone from village fuck-knows-it with population 200
>>
>>76438728
>spoonfeed

But I needed to spoonfeed you first. Back up your claims.
>>
>>76438810
Pakis and Bengalis are already welcomed here.

how much could the Indians fuck the thread
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>>76438751
And the levant and the arabian peninsula
>>
>>76438815
>I'm not going to take time to spoonfeed you.
Is code for:
>I have no sources to disprove the fact that I was talking out my ass
>>
>>76438810
Blame the Poojinder punjabis and Poosheeds pretending to be Persians
>>
>>76438493
no see>>76438810
>>
>>76438682
Kemalists are getting btfo as we speak, its cause theyre a minority.

Also as I said before, you take away religion, you take away peoples moral compass. Athiests 9/10 are degenerates who stand for nothinf. If you dont realize the positive effects religion has on society and people then you need to do more research.
>>
>>76438865
He's just mentally retarded... holy shit.
>>
not gonna happen sadiq
fuckoff
>>
>>76438745
>>76438757
Well, merge with any general other than /sag/. Pajeets are cringeworthy in their extreme bigotry towards muslims, let them fester in their own shit.
>>
Can we shame the poos out of this thread?
>>
>>76438770
Haywan, loubna ki hast? Khuda namisharmi?
>>
>>76438937
POO ALERT! POO ALERT! POO ALERT! POO ALERT! POO ALERT! SHITTING LEVELS ARE REACHING CRITICAL PLEASE FIND A TOILET NOW!
>>
>>76438937
I can smell the poo!!!!
>>
>>76438937
ok won't merge it
.>>76438880
>>76438810
>>
>>76438859
they are welcome here but it was really cringy seeing the inferiority complex, we wuzzing and cow piss stuff. It would be better not to have a massive population influx here
>>
These should be the future borders of the middle east.

Discuss.

>>>2987743
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>>76439101
>>76439101
>>76439101
>>76439101
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>>76439073
Ah fuck it didn't work, I'll post the image instead.

>>76439057
Why not try it once and see how it works?
>>
>>76438772
>this much bullshit

Dude are you legit retarded? Arabs and turks have conversion policies and massive assimilation laws regarding minorities, Anyone whos assimilated and linguistically turkified or arabized is considered a turk and an arab in the middle east. Millions upon millions of circassians, slavs, greeks, pontics, kurds, armenians, berbers, kurds, assyrians etc.. are considered as arabs and turks due to being assimilated. Do some research. Homogenous nations are united and dont suffer from constant threats of seperatism.
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>>76438991
>>76439045
B-but I'm not a poo
>>
>>76439146
POOJINDER ALERT
>>
damn, small pic, wasn't careful

>>76439117
next time i guess.
>>
>>76439062
Pakis and Bangladeshis tend to be decent posters ime. They don't take themselves as seriously as pajeets.
>>76438658
Just because it may have been useful once doesn't mean we should cuck ourselves with it forever.
We have to look to the future for fucks sake.
>>
>>76438754
Is this even an argument? Zoroastrianism didn't influence the Islamic god Judaism did which is most likely older than Zoroastrianism the only thing I know that Islam took from Zoroastrianism is the eschatology about crossing the bridge and if you fall you go to hell.

BUT I WANT TO EMPHASISE this even if Islam did take the concept of god or whatever from it that doesn't make Zoroastrianism Monotheistic YOU have to prove that it is monotheistic
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>>76439073
>>76439117
>>76439188

Use this instead
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>>76438679
Nah I wont, what will fuck Iran over is federalism and people not assimilating. Read history you fucking nigger, multi ethnic states literally have never worked, not even for Iran, hence why weve lost most of our territory since the times of achaemenids and Sassanids.
>>
>>76439277
nice THANKS!!!
>>
>>76438784
>No, since Islam is an Arabic religion
No its not. It's an abrahamic religion. Arabs were Pagans who all fell to the mighty soldiers of Allah and became muslims themselves. Just like every other muslim under the 1st 4 caliphs.
>>76438855
That wasn't spoonfeeding. You didn't provide any evidence that wasn't anecdotal.
And I don't care to spoonfeed you. If you care enough do a simple google search and you'll find it all there.
>>76438951
Fek kardam yeh dokhdare dege boode.
>>76438815
It's called living in Iran and having a pair of eyes.
>>
>>76439234
Except that youre wrong and zoroastrianism came first.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s0K3vEBG3sk

Btw jews dont even believe in the devil.
>>
>>76439215
>cuck ourselves with it
Are u genuinely crippled, these are the absolute pinnacle of the persian literary tradition, u will get stabbed if u say this to as persian speaker which i doubt u are. There is nothing in these books that inhibit advancement they mostly talk about universal values of love, sadness etc.
>>
>>76439380
I'm not here to debate which came first but it's not as conclusive as you're making it out to be also Jews do believe in the devil read the book of job it's very different than the Christian concept I don't want to get into the details
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