Why are american houses not build with stone?

What's the point?

this is the part where you post pictures of an F5's aftermath

hurricanes

Glaubt ihr es ist möglich seinen eigenen kleinen Bauernhof zu haben? Mit einem Bauer der das ganze managed.

frisches Essen und wahrscheinlcih auch billliger
So 1 Huhn allein bringt mehr Eier als man essen kann
dann gemüse
ein rind

>>76328487
>>76328502
Houses built with stone wouldnt be destroyed by storms.

>>76328545
Willst du ein Bauer sein oder bloß parasitär auf seinem Hofe leben?

Letzteres wäre extrem unvölkisch und nicht gutzuheißen uezs.

>>76328545
junker bitte

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Fuck off, obviously particle board houses are superior

>>76328597
Keins von beiden
Ich bin Eigentümer vom Hof, lebe aber bischen weiter weg und ein Bauer macht die Arbeit für mich

>>76328667
Ewww
I hate copy paste houses

>>76328667

There was a time when I loved those and disliked European mixed cities.
Now I hate those suburbs and big European cities are the best thing ever. The thought of having to drive everywhere is just so off-putting.

Because people in America are obsessed with the present. Why invest more money in a house that will last centuries when you can invest less money in a house that will last 3 years instead?

>>76328550
I don't believe you. 450km/h winds will rip the roof off regardless of what the house is made out of.

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>>76328720
You saying you wouldn't move here?

every city in the US is full of brick and mortar terraced houses.

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>>76328441
Because Americans want a dog and yard but most can't pay for an expensive stone house.

Population explosion plus the fact that Americans hate commieblocks is why we have wood homes. We have an abundance of lumber and a nation above us with even more lumber and more land that we know what to do with. That makes wood homes cheap and attractive for folks

Pic related

>>76328667
McMansions are so BORING

>>76328877
OK

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>>76328772
It's because the American population is rather fluid

Rather than settling down and forming real communities tied to the land, Americans move around randomly in search of jobs living a life of pure individualism. Also, the demographics of different areas often change rapidly. You never know when you'll be forced to leave.

Also, families usually don't live together as a single unit, but rather split up across the map. You might have the parents living in one state, the kids in another. It's kind of sick when you think about it. Especially the way Americans abandon their elders and send them off to old people homes to die.

On the plus side these houses are very easy to remodel and customize to individual family that moves in

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>>76328912
what is boring about them?

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european housing is lame if I'm being honest. the US offers a greater variety of living choices.

>>76328998
Every house is the same no individuality so boring

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>>76329047
Which one of these lovely homes would you pick?

>>76329047
Americans want stability and space. We don't mind losing a bit of individuality. Are you here to shitpost on American homes or do you really not understand why we like them?

>>76328998

What's the point of having those tiny pools?

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>>76329047
But the way they style their lawns is completely different, can't you tell?

>>76329213
They look smaller from the air, trust me. They're a decent size.

>>76329273
That's what you say about your dick too XXXDDDD

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>>76329213
It gets really hot there, in case you didn't notice. Mostly to sit in, and for kids to jump in and mess around

>>76329273
When something is unique, it has a higher price. When houses are all the same, their price is lower. Perfect for a homebuyer

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>>76329154
>We don't mind losing a bit of individuality.

I do. Fuck suburban shitholes, they go against the very values we espouse.

>>76329229
Lawns are such a stupid idea.

>>76328936
Good post.

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>>76329322
Stop posting american clone houses

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>>76329374
Europeans don't want to live here? Why do they hate freedom?

>>76329373
I don't want to live near, see, or speak to any minorities. Suburbs are great for that.

>>76329402
whatthefuck does one architect designs one house and it gets copied 1000 times?

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>>76329471
compare to Germany, look at how unfree they are. Sad

>>76329047

Is that really your biggest gripe with these houses? Why do you care that they all look the same. Take care of your house and style it the way you want.
My biggest gripe would be the fact that they're in the middle of nowhere and far away from any cultural or social places.

I can't just leave my house, walk 20 minutes on foot and be in a nice city, surrounded by all kinds of things.

>>76328998
Don't listen to Europoors, living in such a place is a dream

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>>76329471
usually entire housing developments are made by a single company.

The houses are sold individually, but the housing development is like a single packaged product. Often these housing projects offer their own amenities, police services, road and sidewalk maintenance....etc (depends on the area of course). It's almost like a libertarian fantasy

Meanwhile Europe doesn't seem to understand the value of good burgers, pic related

>>76328998
IT'S A FUCKING DESERT

>>76329562
>Often these housing projects offer their own amenities, police services, road and sidewalk maintenance....etc (depends on the area of course). It's almost like a libertarian fantasy
interesting, is it very common? Here the city is responsible for these things

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>>76329450
No they aren't. If you actually lived in the suburbs, you would know that there's a lot of racial minorities here.
>>76329402
This """"""town"""""" needs to be bulldozed. It's disgusting.

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Because wood is abundant in North America, renewable, cheaper to rebuild after damage in tornado or hurricane prone areas, and actually the only affordable building material permitted in earthquake zones. There's nothing inherently wrong with wood, I just wish Americans valued building quality and taste a little more instead of making everything as large and as opulent looking as possible with the cheapest materials possible.

>>76329402
>>76329624


do these kind of suburbs have corner stores, restaurants, bars or something? or do you have to drive 10-20 mins to the mall everytime you need to buy something?

>>76329624
I should've been clearer, I don't want any interaction with poor violent minorities.

>>76329450
Symptomatic for Americans to attempt evading issues instead of resolving them.

>Why tackle social problems when everyone who can afford it can just move away from them and make them worse?

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>>76329655
Usually a bunch of surrounding suburbs all funnel to a central shopping center location that has big chain retail stores offering stuff for very low prices. Your walmart's and costco's. There are of course local shops here and there for specialty stuff, but the primary service is provided by the big stores.

>>76329655
I think they don't, "zoning laws" and all that, that's how the whole walmart culture developed.

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>>76329655
No, nearly all of them are entirely residential areas. You have to get in your car and drive a few km to either an actual town, a 'shopping plaza' (pic related), or a shopping mall to actually purchase anything.

It's a pretty widespread issue in this country, and means that nearly everyone is dependent on cars to get anywhere.

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>>76329793
yeah a lot of this is for tax and traffic reasons.

If you place a store in the middle of a suburb, you'll have lots of traffic choking up the streets. Lots of noise and stuff. It's why the shopping area is kept separate from the residential districts.

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>>76329883
There's a crucial image missing from this thread.

>>76329945
Is that in Japan or the US? Looks cozy.

>>76329945
WRONG

If you need to drive miles and miles to get anywhere significant, THAT'S when you'll have lots of traffic.

Americans have a much larger road network than us but still the same traffic per mile of it because you guys drive double the annual distance that we do. And it's not because you're doing cross country road trips all the time, but because it's 5 miles to the stores, 10 miles to the gym and 30 miles to work. I have two grocery stores in five minutes walking distance and half a dozen on my 2.5 miles drive to work. And I live in a semi-rural town, not a densely populated city.

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>>76330033
I ran out of suburb pics so now I am posting /comfy/ Europe pics.
But yes that one is Japan

Pic related is America in the Victorian era

>>76330033
it's in Japan

http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/734

>>76329793
Yeah, zoning laws are pretty much responsible for urban sprawl. Retarded city planners think that nobody wants shops near them, so they create these giant areas where only residential, retail, or industrial buildings can be built.

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You guys do know that most young Americans would kill for a house in the suburbs, right?

Millennials and Gen Z are either living with their parents or in crummy 1 and 2 bedroom apartments with no hope for the future. The idea of home ownership, even a "boring" house in a suburb is so far away from them it's comically tragic.

>>76329759
I don't want my tax dollars going towards trash who don't work. I don't want to share the same country with them

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>>76330124
>I have two grocery stores in five minutes walking distance and half a dozen on my 2.5 miles drive to work.
But do you have stores like this? Or are your "stores" tiny little local shops?

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>>76330341

>>76330324
Have you ever considered that people don't work because of the scarcity of paying jobs?

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>>76330341
The developers in my town were slightly less retarded than normal, so I luckily have an intersection with about a mile down the road.

However, it's a pain in the ass to walk there, and I pretty much need to drive to get anywhere else.

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>>76328550
This is pretty simple. First off, torandoes hitting towns is pretty uncommon to begin with. Second off, stone is expensive.

Look at this picture. It's a tiny ass farming community called Hazelton. It's in Kansas. You think anyone in this tiny ass town can afford shit like that?

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>>76330430
When most people talk about "minorities" in this context they're talking about blacks. Who bring tons of drugs, crime, and other social issues. Blacks have destroyed practically all of America's major cities.

Whites in America are on a constant quest to keep away from blacks. Every time blacks move in, they move out. Even very liberal whites do this. It's a phenomenon known as "white flight"

>>76328667
This makes me feel uneasy

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>>76330341
>>76330372
the best thing about costco are these teddys

>>76328667
Truemanshow

>>76328550

I love how euros seem to think that a tornado is just a really strong thunderstorm.

little boxes on the hill side, little boxes made of tiki taki little boxes on the hill side little boxes all the same...

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>>76328667
>Living in a soulless neighbourhood

Never understood the appeal 2bh

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>>76330703
They either really ignorant or trolling.

>>76330540
>Whites in America are on a constant quest to keep away from blacks. Every time blacks move in, they move out. Even very liberal whites do this. It's a phenomenon known as "white flight"

Maybe the reason communities are in decline is not because of the blacks moving in, but the whites moving out.

>>76330341
What's the point of stores like that? The only reason you'd buy a year's supply of whipping cream is because the stores are so far away you only have time to go there once a month. I can stop by a store to pick up a few items whenever I want because they're not actually out of my way. Hell, I could live without a car if I wanted and pick up a few groceries with a backpack every day on my way home on a bicycle, and maybe I should because I severly lack some physical exercise.

>>76330748
See >>76330540 >>76329651 >>76329450 and >>76328877

>why do people with different lifestyles do things differently than me it doesn't make sense

>>76328667
Looks like a refugee camp

>>76328788
I love cities: skylines

>>76330540
>money always selfishly moves out, all charity in the US is just a lip service to make yourself feel better
>WHY ARE ALL THE REMAINDERS POOR

Suburbs are perfect for me and my lifestyle

>>76330779
because they are top consumers they want bigger, faster, stronger

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>>76330703
>The most extreme tornadoes can attain wind speeds of more than 300 miles per hour (480 km/h), are more than two miles (3 km) in diameter, and stay on the ground for dozens of miles (more than 100 km).
Sounds like your average every day storm to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjb7QtMEBUg

>>76330779
cheaper and more convenient if you have a family. their return policy is good too, people eat stuff dont like it and return it for full price.. even for milk and stuff

a costco just opened up in Iceland and its forcing all the prices in the country, even gas prices, to fall quite a bit

>>76330888
You're the type of person that would want to increase your criminally high tax rate for muslim migrants "because it's the right thing to do" aren't you?

>>76330496

>torandoes hitting towns is pretty uncommon to begin with
But that's just purely coincidence or is there (which I doubt) a meteorological factor that makes the formation of tornadoes in cities less likely?

>>76330955
Walmart tried to get into Germany but was driven out over horrid employment conditions, creepy corporate identity and soulless size. I imagine Costco being no different, only with a less used up name.

>>76330969
>obvious strawman argument

>>76331058
Costco is pretty different from Walmart. More Ike you take a cart and load up what you can afford/fit in your car and go home. Walmart is soulless and creepy

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>>76330779
They are cheaper. They have economies of scale, meaning you can buy far more for far less money

Also, these mega corporations have cozy relationship with the government, and can offshore labor in china and import products very cheaply in comparison to all their competitors

>>76331079
I'm not wrong though.

>>76330969
No, I'm just smart enough for the train of thought that wealth inequality causes poverty, and poverty causes crime, and crime lowers the life quality of everyone in its surroundings. And by my estimation your social policies are too weak and Germany's are alright in volume, but too easily accessible to outsiders. A strong social state only works with strong borders, but a strong social state in itself is not a bad thing. What's the point of having a few hundred bucks more a year when you have to lock yourself into a gated neighborhood and have to stay out of certain parts of town? That's not life quality to me.

How do you like ALDI?

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American backyards are small

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>>76331154
Good for them, they're killing the small business of Arlen.

>>76328441
Good question deutsche anon, I think the desire is to build quickly and charge alot of money thereby making more money for the economy. For some reason we are using these cheaply constructed houses to build the bedrock of ours and the global economy.

On the bright side they are easily repaired and replaced when damaged.

Unfortunately for those in the way of fires, tornadoes, and hurricanes, the lives within are not so easily replaced.

Stone would be shit in earthquake land.

>>76331219
Blacks commit over 50% of the murders in the US. Despite the fact that there are twice as many whites in poverty

Black schools receive more funding than any other school districts, they are still absolute nightmares with rock-bottom graduation rates. Nobody is starving in America, the biggest problem with our poor people is obesity.

Believe me, there are tons and tons of programs to help these people.

>>76331168
That anyone who thinks Americans should plan their cities better is a communist SJW that sucks refugee dick?

>>76331168
American urban planning is absolute shit. This is something that people all over the world recognize

Just in terms of the general layout of the buildings, the zoning, the efficiency of the roadways. It's really bad

>>76330341
yes, we have stores like these
also within 10 min driving distance, zero traffic and i dont spend more than 5 mins in a queue. Because we have so many small local stores everywhere that people dont need to gather in just one spot to buy their supplies

>>76330969
Die.

>>76331307
>Believe me, there are tons and tons of programs to help these people.
Of which are clearly ineffectual, you braindead /pol/tard.
Love it how the government is great and powerful when it comes to people you don't like but weak and incompetent when it comes to your own issues.

Seek death.

>>76328441
We're more tranisent than Germans, it doesn't make sense for us to put that much money into a house

>>76331058
costco is a lot different from walmart. they actually treat their employees really good and their prices are really low and carry a lot of stuff that might be hard to find elsewhere for a lot cheaper

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>>76331416
This is what serves as our "small local stores". Usually you find these on the corner of a suburb, along with a gas station.

You can buy candy, trinkets, drinks....etc. No real groceries or anything though.
Where my town is, we do have a few community shops here and there, but hardly anyone goes there. Most people spend all their money at the big stores

>>76331406
No, it isn't

Its alot more convenient than the ancient European stuff.

EAST WEST roads is beastly best roads.

North south you always know where you're going.

WELCOME TO FRESNO, you won't get lost homies.

Thank you railroads, you dropped my ancestors off in paradise.

>>76331229
i dont like Aldi

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>>76331551
>one bridge collapses

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>>76331540
711s are basically the size of the store sections included in our gas stations anyway. No one seriously shops there because their business model is selling impulse snacks you want on an appetite when you're fueling up, and selling some essential items at night when all other stores are closed.

>>76331731
what are those mixery bottles? soda?

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>>76331731
I've often wondered, what if we banned cars in cities? Only used cars to travel between cities?

People could use bikes and segways to get around inside the city. Everyone would be forced to go outside and walk amongst each other. You would actually have a real feeling of community like you used to

If you had to travel to the other side of the city, you could have a monorail system or subway

>>76331943
Beer mixed with lemonade oder cola.

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>>76331948
No

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>>76332010

>>76332010
*or

>>76332064
Just think about how things could be improved without cars. You could make streets narrower, you wouldn't have massive parking lots everywhere. You could walk more freely in the streets. It would be so much better. Most big cities like New York cars can barely travel faster than 5mph anyway

>>76332122
what are bikes, you fat idiot

>>76331731
>No one seriously shops there because their business model is selling impulse snacks you want on an appetite when you're fueling up, and selling some essential items at night when all other stores are closed.
It's the exact same way here, don't listen to that other retard.

>>76332168
Exactly, use bikes instead of cars.

>>76332214
people just usually go there for beer or cigarettes

>>76329945
A lot of those buildings are actually shophouses and restaurants
t. been there

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>>76332122
If you want to send our economy back to the medieval times, then yes sure, ban cars!

>>76332406
Our economy will be pretty much fine. But we'd actually have a better social atmosphere, rather than having millions of people stuck in little bubble world in their cars never talking or looking at each other.

We'd probably have far lower obesity rates, far lower rates of mental insanity and ADD. It might even save us money

>>76329481
Looks like Transylvania

>>76331948
You'd have to thoroughly redesign cities for something like this to have even a chance to work, some cities more than others. There's no one size fits all car ban for all cities. The most realistic approach is probably a continued hybrid system of public transport and personal transport, but with an increased priority on public transport and emissions free propulsion, dependent on local conditions on the individual city in question.

>>76331013
Places with a lot of tornadoes like Kansas aren't densely populated because there's no reason to live there. Plains and farms so the likelihood of hitting a needle in a haystack is low.

>>76332510
How are you going to deliver goods to the stores? How are ambulances, firemen and policemen going to service the population? Garbage?
If you think improved mental and physical health will pay for all your unnecessary solutions you're dead wrong.
May I ask how old you are?

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I see a lot of Americans thinking cars are the problem of their cities when in fact it's how spread out the city is, that is the problem. Grid cities handle traffic better than organic so you only need to build densier and invest in public transport. I see more and more Americans cities build condos like pic related and trams in downtown so you're on the right path.
The car usage will fall by itself when there's no need to own a car which will only be for people living in downtown. The car is one of the greatest human inventions and banning them would set us back so many decades

>>76332657
Ok for food delivery we could have truck lanes. These lanes would be out of the way from the common travel streets so they wouldn't interfere with daily life of the people.

Police would have motorcycles and possibly some cars too. They would actually have a huge advantage now, since they have vehicles and the criminals don't.

For things like garbage, how did they do it in the old days? We just need to pay some people. It creates some work for the poor, which is good.

The car-centered society is cancer. It sucks big time having to live next to these monstrous vehicles whizzing by all the time. Not to mention the fumes, there is still a brown cloud of smoke hanging over LA

>>76330277
It's honestly possible. The plan that I don't see being used is...
>Go through school (Or don't, maybe learn a trade)
>Get a good job
>Stay at home and save up
>Make a down payment on a house
>Mortgage is likely cheaper than rent

>>76332798
>If we ban motor vehicles criminals won't have them
You'll just have drive bys on electric motorcycles.

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>>76332798
I'm assuming you don't drive a car if you think avoiding other cars is harder than avoiding pedestrians.
Pic related is how they dealt with trash back in the days or todays poor areas of China. Just dump it in the nearest canal.

Your plan is just not realistic both from a socially and economically point of view.

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>>76332795
You wouldn't be able to support nearly the same amount of cars at higher density. Building denser by itself doesn't reduce car traffic enough, you have to actively eliminate it.

Good to see though that some American cities are reviving their streetcar neighborhoods. Those were the right size. Row housing or detached housing with backyards, but still dense enough to be served through public transport and walking without much reliance on cars.

>>76333087
It is realistic. We just need to be smart enough to figure out the logistics.

We have the power to do anything we set our minds to, it's a matter of engineering and willpower

>>76333092
Instead of individual backyards, what if 10 or more houses all shared a common backyard?

Build the houses all facing out around a large park in the middle. The children could all play together, the people could all talk and meet with each other. But it would only work in a scenario where everyone is comfortable with each other and there is a high degree of social trust, something most Americans don't have (most Americans don't even talk to their neighbors)

>>76333092
People will stop using cars if their homes is close to the stores and workplaces. Add public transportation and even more people further away will let the car stay home.
>>76333143
Honestly buy the game 'Cities Skylines' if you want to get a semi-realistic feeling of how a city works. You get to plan a city right from the start which is a better shot at your plan than redeveloping existing cities whether it's car-centered American cities or pedestrian friendly European cities who both need cars to function

Something important that hasn't been pointed out yet in this thread is that McMansion neighborhoods with shit design are a relatively recent phenomenom, with it only really being a thing since the 80's. Older suburbs are no where near as car-dependent as newer ones, and usually contain nearby businesses/parks/etc. And on top of that, only a certain subset of Americans live in McMansions (Upper-Middle class families living in major metro areas)

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A neighborhood in Copenhagen called Orestad was built in the way you're describing and it's basically a cold wasteland with no life in the streets and the social-trust is even lower than in the city center where there is a lot of cars.

>>76333501
Why do you think it's like that?

>>76333483
>McMansions
But those houses in the pictures posted here, the suburb airphotos, (Like here:>>76328667 >>76328998 >>76329322 >>76329624), those houses are not "mansions" are they? They are too small to be called "mansion" as far as I understand. A mansion is supposed to be a very large house.

>>76333739
They are not "mansions", but they are a lot bigger than the typical European house. Or even a typical living place in the city

They are to a mansion, what McDonald's is to a restaraunt

>>76333333

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>>76328441
Stone is not as aesthetic as wood. Comfy Norwegian houses are literally perfect. Not big and not small.

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>>76333838
Oh I see. They seem pretty normal by Norwegian standards. Pic related my neighbourhood, quite typical and normal middle class neighbourhood.

>They are to a mansion, what McDonald's is to a restaraunt
Now we can agree.

>>76333892
Norway has a weird thing where they build houses and buildings right on the water's edge.
I wonder why they do that, it's odd

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>>76333739
those are just middle class homes.. mcmansions are usually more impressive looking. where i'm from most usually start at $3mil

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>>76333483
If I'm not mistaken you have to go back to pre-war neighborhoods to lose some car dependency. Even in the '50s they were already building suburbs similar to today. Suburbs are inherently car dependent, otherwise they'd be urbs.

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>>76333647
Only wealthy people who work all day can afford to live in areas like these since the plan isn't economically realistic providing so many services that the car dealt with for less cost.
Overall modern areas of European cities are always dead and lifeless unlike the older parts

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>>76333983
>impressive
You mean gaudy. Horrid mix of architectural styles, nonsensical layout, overload of decorations, nothing is made from the material that it's made to look like. Wood frame, vinyl 'wood' exterior, plastic bricks, foam stucco, painted marble, nonstructural columns, list goes on.

>>76334123
Do you think modern walkable neighborhoods would work better if they were more affordable?

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>uh wooden houses doesn't last
Meanwhile my wooden home was built in 1729..
I much prefer the old style of homes, my farm is sturdy and easy to maintain. Stands through any storm or blizzard the northern winters can throw at it.

>>76333982
It's considered comfy to be near the water. What's not to like about the water? We used to be a nation of fishermen, so we are natural seamen. Maybe that's why? I dunno.

>>76334160
i mean, compare that to typical middle american house. its definitely more impressive looking.

>>76330871
even cities:skylines has more goddamn variety in buildings than america

>>76334274
I heard that in older days there used to be cranes lifting things off ships onto the buildings

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>>76334242
Walkable neighborhoods are already more affordable simply because of the massively reduced infrastructure and utility costs, but people neverless are willing to spend the extra money on looking wealthier or avoiding social contact and therefore potential conflict. Maybe it's americanization, maybe it's human nature.

>>76328441
are you the same angry german that makes this thread every day?

show your house

>>76334242
Yes it just has to be built in human distance, not car, bus, subway etc. ,like the old parts which the modern urban planners fails to realise.
There is one modern neighborhood in Copenhagen that is full of life especially in the summer despite the people living there being wealthy too.
https://www.google.dk/maps/@55.646142,12.550696,3a,60y,160.42h,91.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sacTe_wbm8bX6jXVb1q1JhQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

>>76328788
jesus h christ you are beyond any help

>>76334523
wow that looks really nice.. d-do you live there anon?

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>>76334523
Wow, this is so weird
you can kayak to your room

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>>76334160
The homes of wealthy Americans have always been very gaudy tho

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>>76334608
there's quite a handful of communities in SoCal and east coast that does this

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>>76334608
Why are all the buildings built in a "box" style? Why not make them artistically, since it's such a spectacular location?

pic related, how modernism has ruined architecture

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This neighbourhood looks pretty comfy if you ask me. Sure it's an american "muh suburb" but it looks nice. I'd want the houses to look a bit different if you include my personal taste, but that's just me.

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>>76334608
Not uncommon in Sweden either. I lived in an apartment like that, could dive from my window if I wanted to.
>pic related, same area

>>76334888
>>76334608
damn im so jelly

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>>76328441
tfw my wall thicker than whole american house.

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>>76334608
Cities with river systems and canals are super comfy, and in Europe they're more common than you think because a river was crucial to the life of a city, you couldn't just put it into the middle of nowhere like Phoenix.

>>76328441
Many houses are built with stone.

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>>76334863
Not enough trees in my opinion
suburbs where I live all have trees like this

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>>76334744
Why does it look utterly creepy when it Americans do it though?

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One thing that has always triggered my inner autist is how modern suburbs completely ruin the landscape. America would literally be the most beautiful country on earth if we weren't constantly ruining landscapes by building ugly cooy-paste suburbs on top of them. Just because we have plenty of land doesn't mean we should to destroy so much of it. You have to drive hours from most large metro areas just to see a pleasant natural or agricultural landscape. Having areas like pic related Swiss countryside in burgerland would be so great.

>>76335014
I agree, but I just mean that people are too judgemental of your suburbs. As long as it's not a neighbourhood consisting in the same houses all round, not in the desert or in the south where you have those fucking mad summers, green with trees, then I'd say suburbs in usa seem quite nice.

>>76335122
Because those areas were built by developers buying up plots of land to make maximum profit instead of being created organically by individuals over centuries

>>76335153
Fucking waste of resources and time though even if they're tree lined, and terrible for the social climate.

>>76334888
ah, i remember you. always like where you live with the river flowing thru.. einpoking or something iirc

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>>76335128
America still has comfy small settlements here and there, but the younger they are, the more likely they're overinflated, soulless, decadent garbage. I'd never move to the US unless I had the chance to move to a comfy town in New England or one of the exceptionally rare comfy towns in the general area of the Rockies somewhere.

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These louisiana suburbs looks comfy

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>>76335269
God damn the man with the memory again.
Norrköping is the name.
The city with amazing fishing waters running straight through it.

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>>76335251
I don't want to be discourteous, but it seems you just want to defend the german lifestyle of not owning a house with a yard. Even a small little flick of grass/lawn makes all the difference in comfy living.

>>76335446
Louisiana is basically swampland. I think it would have been more interesting if they had developed a unique building style and towns growing up organically around the local environment, rather than paving over it with cookie cutter suburbs that are the same as everywhere else. I think every place should do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f775c_KgXE0

>>76328441
How come American houses have such a shitty insulation? Thin doors, no triple glazing windows and literally plywood as walls.

>>76334721
At least that is made out of real materials and is in line with a single architectural style

>>76335514
Norrköping Norrköping Norrköping .. okay, next time i recognize you, i'll get the city correct kek

also remember something you said about paper in one of those buildings.. paper mill maybe?

>>76335122
Living in america must be like living in some surreal video game

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>>76328441
this anon gets it

>>76335563
I don't, but there's a difference between owning a detached house with a bit of yard in an organically grown urban layout, and paving endless amounts of unnecessary suburban mazes into the middle of nowhere and multiplicating transit times and expenses so that you can escape your homegrown social conflicts and continue being selfish.

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>>76335837
The walls are packed with insulating material
And I'm guessing window glazing must be a meme. Because believe me if it were economically cheaper we'd be doing it

A question for the Americans here, how common are water in your cities? I mean larger rivers and streams etc?
>pic related, my city
>>76335910
Yes it's an old paper mill turned into homes.
There is tons of 1700's industrial buildings in this city, most of them have been turned into flats and offices etc. Maybe you can answer my question above, is it common in the states?

>>76328936
This is a good explanation. Americans are largely pretty rootless. We also value quantity over quality; most people would prefer to get a big ass house made of shitty materials over a beautiful and long-lasting but small house. I don't even know how much a stone house would cost now, either; probably quite a lot.

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>>76336038
Forgot pic..

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>>76335837
The wall insulation isn't even that bad, six inches of wood and insulation wool insulate just as well as twelve inches of brick. It just sounds and feels cheap as crap when you come into contact with it. Trip while playing with your nephew and knock a hole into the wall with your head kinda deal. American doors and windows are complete shit though, I agree. My room door is probably better made than many American front doors, and don't get me started about windows.

>>76336083
Fucking hell, I'm from Stockholm but Norrköping is beautiful. Here they have torn down most of the old buildings and built new, box shaped and soulless things instead..

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>>76330703
we actually have tornadoes

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>>76328998

Thoughts?


Blue=town hall+green

red="townhouses"/highstreet

green striped= church+graveyard

green filled= greens/copses of trees

Also all streets need trees and the roads need verges

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>>76336199
You're underestimating real tornadoes though. Bricks don't magically make your house tornado-proof, only more expensive to rebuild.

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Those florida suburbs look nice but there must be so many mosquitoes with all those small lakes

>>76336329
House is still there, should have built it more thickly anyway and used thicker and more solid beams

>>76329513
This really sucks and is probably the biggest reason why millennials are eschewing the suburbs. They worked for older generations who valued never having to see a black person and passed the time watching TV and going to neighborhood cookouts or whatever, but millennials tend to value being close to amenities and partaking in cultural activities. The suburbs are probably going to shrink enormously over the next few decades in most places, and/or degrade as they become full of poor or working-class whites who bought into the 1950's traditionalist meme.

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>>76336038
in LA we got the LA River, which is nonexistant most of the time cause it all got channelized due to a major flood back in the 1930s.. theres more pretty ones up in the PNW iirc when i visited. upstate new york got a river flowing thru one of its highways heading there...sioux falls got them too when i visited my mom's side there.. pic is sioux falls

here's LA river news segment that frank gehry wants to restore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy-9tyYO6h8

>>76328441
because do you think we can afford diamond saw blades and the time it takes to cut stones?
stone dust also causes a lot of respiratory problems and respirators are expensive

>>76336447
Damn the LA river is kinda depressing. Seen it in movies and such but never really figured out that it's a river.. Thought it was some kind of aqueduct or something.

>>76336473
You know that bricks aren't carved out of stone though and that no one expects you to build a marble cathedral, right?

>>76336329
I'm not OP. I agree, but to a certain point mostly the roofes get damaged. F3 are real tornadoes though. I was close to one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT1GIQ_3QSQ

>>76336473

poor peasants could afford bricks, why cant you?
Bricks are used because they are cheap and easy, but for americans they are too expensive and difficult?

>>76336694
Tougher to remodel a house made of bricks though. Also slower to build

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>>76336542
yeah, the major flood made the whole city make it feels like a dam.. but theres nice part of the river the further up that feels ness concrete. water flow is controlled and its usually dry in DTLA and surrounding area where i live

it used to look decent back in the days though.. we also had snow back then too!

>>76336694
Bricks are relatively cheap and easy, but wood is even cheaper if you haven't cut down your entire island yet.

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>>76336023
Well, don't they have suburbs near cities too? I mean, fuck it must suck living far from everything. We don't have that issue here because we have just small city centres and then the houses right outside it.

>>76336724
>remodel a house
Why would you want to do that?

>>76336829
Everyone does. As soon as you move into a house, the first thing people usually do is remodel (if they have the money to that is). Add extensions, change the roof, add a porch, add space to the garage, change the plants in the yard....etc. Basically personalize the home.

It's also sort of a status thing, well modeled homes are very impressive.

>>76328441
>he thinks European houses are still built with stone

I guess you don't see many new houses being built as Germany's population is shrinking and home ownership, let alone of an actual single-family house is a rarity in Germany.

Well I see tons and let me tell you what new houses are actually made of: Concrete with a layer of styrofoam or something similar for insulation.

And what you mean is brick, not stone. There's a difference. Some houses are still being built with bricks. They haven't been made with stone in over a century.

>>76336153
What is wrong with the window in the pic?

>>76334608
It must smell so bad there.

>>76336978
Nothing, it's a German window.

>>76335014
This is the type of neighbourhood i would like to live in.

>>76328545
Joscher RUHEEE

>>76337117
That's why I was confused, we have those here too.

>>76336968
The styrofoam is mandated by modern energy efficient standards (probably some EU garbage again). It doesn't actually do a lot apart from trapping moisture and causing mold, modern houses are absolutely terribly ventilated mold traps because muh air tightness for muh energy efficiency.

>>76337186
I find it hard to believe that you can kick your foot through American front doors, but they nevertheless have triple pane, triple sealed windows.

>>76337592
>American front doors,
Must be solid wood or metal, and all must have metal frames, good luck. Hollow doors are only sometimes in the interior of cheap houses.
We have all kinds of windows, and have seen German ones here, I think they were Nuefer

>>76337204
Depends, my dad is building a new house in Germany right now without added insulation. It uses a building material called Ytong which actually has nice insulation capacities itself so there's no need to add more (you still could if you're an idiot who needs that AA energy rating).
Also that's why new houses have forced ventilation (with a system of fans) because they're so airtight you'd have to open the windows all the time otherwise.

Just my point being not every house in Europe is some quaint little stone cottage with metre-thick walls that will last a millenia, there's things like Fertighäuser and Plattenbau as well.

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>>76337846
Plattenbau a best, I used to live in one, you needed a percussion drill to hang a picture because the prefab walls were literally stones mixed up with concrete.

I like the way Americans build houses, it's much better than where i'm from. They're so well-organized, while here fucking rednecks populated the cities and started building houses their own way, which resulted in having a house where you go to a balcony and have a great view of the neighbours bathroom window.

Most of the houses here don't even have a facade so it looks even more depressing, and backyards are used for planting cabbage and carrots.

Basically the whole family lives in one house, let's suppose that grandpa came to the city and built a groundfloor house, left it unfinished and without an actual roof so he can built another floor for his son when he grows up, the son does the same thing and so on. Really disgusting, i hate this country.

www.google.hr/maps/@44.1093617,15.2560806,3a,60y,25.87h,88.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smqYP74DHmalgPD7LMe5XCw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Go around this neighbourhood and see it for yoursleves,

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>>76338124
You have very narrow streets

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>>76328782
How?

>>76338445
Because rednecks don't care about it, the houses were probably built before the road, so the poor road had to adapt to the subhuman ways.

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>>76338124
Would prefer that over shit like this

M8 if you're middle or even lower class and can afford your own detached house with a garden, count yourself lucky as that is reserved to the upper class in many places in Western Europe.

Don't like the view of your neighbour's bathroom? I can HEAR my neighbour going to the bathroom, would you prefer that?

>>76338445
Sidewalk? You mean my frontyard fence?

>>76338517
usually what happens is the fast air outside creates a low pressure zone, which rips the roof off. Also, all the glass shatters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAPnbzHvIKs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_26akyADLs

Nothing can stop them

>>76338566
That looks like Britain. Still looks more elegant ,civilized and sophisticated than what i posted. Imagine medieval people building houses in the present and you get the neighbourhood i posted.

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>>76338445
You have excessively wide streets

>space for traffic and curbside parking in both directions, essentially making it four lane
>HOA nevertheless bans on-street parking in most cases

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>>76338650
yes those are row houses. people living very close together.

Some people prefer them, because higher population density means you don't need a car to get everywhere, and there is more sense of community

I don't know, I think your area is kind of nice. Maybe we both think the grass looks greener on the other side. The issue is, it looks a bit poor, therefore not well maintained. Also, you don't have underground power lines, so you have the ugly ones hanging off the buildings

>>76338566
>M8 if you're middle or even lower class and can afford your own detached house with a garden, count yourself lucky as that is reserved to the upper class in many places in Western Europe

Luxembourg is not representative of western Europe m8. A detached house is perfectly affordable for your average Joe outside the biggest cities.

t. someone who is not rich and grew up in a detached house with a large garden

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>>76328441
You build houses out of the cheapest materials you can find.
In your country, the cheapest material is stone because you deforested your entire continent centuries ago.
Try to make an American-style stick-built house in Germany, the costs will probably be exorbitant.

On the other hand, America (all of it), has wood aplenty. So we build all of our houses using wood. That isn't to say that other construction methods aren't gaining ground. ICF is getting really popular. It's essentially foam legos and concrete. Really fast, really easy, with great R-value. A plebeian could do it with instructions from an engineer.

Having said that, this is a strong case of
>let me tell you about your country
Well Hans, let me tell you about your country. You do not have tornadoes. You don't know what kind of damage a tornado actually does. Do you think it destroys everything in its path and everything around it? No, they don't. Tornado damage is caused by objects crashing into other objects. How likely is it that a tree or a house is going to crash into another house? How long do you think your stone structure is going to last against several tons of tree and house crashing into it?

>>76338799
>In your country, the cheapest material is stone because you deforested your entire continent centuries ago.
UK isn't a continent

>>76338736
Grass is greener in the American suburbs because Americans actually mow their lawns and water their frontyard grass.

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>>76338736
Most forms of housing have their benefits if they're well maintained and in peaceful surroundings. The problem in the US is that everything gets associated with something. In most inner cities only poors live anymore, so row houses are automatically associated with poverty just like vans are automatically associated with pedophiles for no reason.

>>76338861
please show me pictures of lush German forests, even if they're man-made and purpose built for harvesting 2x4's from.

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>>76338864
Lawns are absolutely toxic to local wildlife though. No significant variety of insects can maintain life on an Anglo lawn. Plus it's a gigantic waste of water that could be better used elsewhere especially in arid regions. It seems to be a theme of the American lifestyle to be ecologically utterly unsustainable if it weren't for their low population density. Their population density is 6.5 times lower than Germany's and they already have dirtier air and rivers than us.

Pic related, a naturally friendly lawn. Also needs far less cutting.

>>76338899
>>76339063
What good is a lawn you can't walk or lay on?

>>76338947
>>>/google/

>>76338748
Don't really count Italy as Western Europe either. We know housing is really cheap in Southern Europe. It's cheapest in shitholes like Romania or Bulgaria where everyone can afford it. The more unaffordable the more rich and densely populated it gets.

The lower class definitely can't afford a detached house in non-rural UK, Switzerland, West Germany, etc.

Also I wasn't talking about your parents as the previous generation had it much easier. Do YOU own a detached house with a large garden yet? Why not? Do you think you will by the time your parents got theirs?

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>>76339154

>>76339063
I couldn't imagine raising kids in a house without a lawn
When I was a kid I played outside in my and my neighbor's lawns all day long

>>76328788
Assume it is ancient Babylon, would not it be comfy

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>>76339138
>implying Americans actually do anything on their front lawns
They're just there to be there and to serve as a display of how well the house owner pays Mexicans to maintain it for him. It's all social prestige.

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>>76338947
Genuinely wtf are you on about

>>76339181
you really want to be spoonfed, don't you. Is a 160x60km forest big enough for you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Forest

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>>76339226
Nobody's denying you a lawn, I'm just pointing out that it's retarded and ecologically harmful to make it as pure and flower-free as possible.

>>76339406
It's for walking and running on. We used to play football, croquet, frisbee, soccer, badmitton....etc on the lawn. Running around all day having squirt gun fights. We also have pets that run around the lawn all day, rabbits and dogs

>>76339494
And you can't do that on a lawn with a bunch of flowers? Lawns must consist of medical grade pure lawn to run around on them?

>>76339063
You sound really dumb

>>76336724
Why do you need to remodel it so pressingly that you need to fuck around with the structure of the house?

You dont have to start knocking everything down in order to add a conservatory or an extension, people do so here all the time.

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>>76339553
Don't you think your post is a bit ironic? Is "you sound dumb" all you can think of regarding the topic of ecological variety in man-made environments?

>>76339637
Because you have no idea what you are talking about but still try to preach

>>76338639
Houses not made of paper can stop them

>>76339601
I don't know. If you want to build a brick house, I don't think anyone can stop you. It's your land after all.
I know here in Southern California, we can't use brick because of the earthquake danger. We're not allowed to even build more than 2 stories

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>>76329651
Had to study this picture really closely for a few mins to make sure that wasn't my parents' house...feels bad man

>>76339172
I'm currently renting a flat because I moved to the city due to my job. I could afford buying (via a mortgage which would cost me roughly the same as the rent I'm currently paying monthly)/renting a detached house in a town if I wanted to. And housing here isn't nearly as cheap as you think, prices in cities tend to be nuts.

>>76339817
Why not buy if it's the same price

>>76339063
I'm pretty sure the point is to not have a variety of insects extremely close to your house.

>>76339860
Beacuse that would mean ~1 hour of commute time. The flat I'm currently living in is a 5 minute walk away from my workplace, that's why.

>>76339734
are you ready for the big one anon?

>>76339547
It's hard to run on an uneven surface, and it doesn't look as nice and comfy.

>>76339981
honestly, I try not to think about it. They say we're due for an 9.0 or something crazy like that within the next 100 years. It could happen at any moment.

I'm pretty close to the San Andreas fault line, so it's something to think about. The last time we were hit with a major earthquake was the 1906 quake that destroyed San Francisco. The entire city burned to the ground

Because we have plenty of wood here.
Wood is more expensive in most of Europe.
In parts of Europe where wood is still plentiful, you see a lot of wood houses.

I live in a suburb that was built around 1900 around a commuter train station. I can get downtown in 12 minutes and live right next to the Main Street with shopping and the station so it's very convenient. Despite living in North America I never have to expose myself to the cookie cutter suburbs and don't even own a car. There's also a bike path I can take, that gets me downtown in 20 minutes.

>>76340064
we're actually really over due for one. the 100 year mark was actually like a decade or two ago iirc

i live on one of the newly discovered faultline that they recently discovered that runs through the SGV by the foothills and the other new one that found that runs thru DTLA is like five miles away. there is no hope for me :D

>>76340276
When the earthquake hits, the underground gas lines will probably rupture. Be careful wandering out on the street, you may get exploded. There will probably be fires all over the place, so you may have to leave the city in a hurry, probably on foot. We've spent 50 years planning for the day this happens, hopefully it all pays off

>>76340416
house is earthquake standard and we got a sprinkler system in the house in case of fire, plus 4-5 fire stations within few block radius. more worried if its a big big one where all go crashing down regardless

have you been to the earthquake room at the CA Science Center?

>>76340546
Nope, I don't live in LA. I'm just north in a wealthy white suburban town

We got one directly under us the other day. My bed shook pretty bad, the windows nearly broke. I think it was a 4.0 or so.

>>76340618
central ca?

>>76336801
Literally my parents house

>>76331058
Costco treats its employees better than the vast, vast majority of American companies, actually.
>>76331168
You're a tard. American urban sprawl is causing huge problems across a number of domains.
>>76331307
>Blacks commit over 50% of the murders in the US. Despite the fact that there are twice as many whites in poverty
Because poor black communities are urban with high population density, street drugs, and gang violence/glorification, whereas white poverty is primarily confined to small rural areas with low population density, no need for gang activity, and a dependence on easily-available prescription downers rather than gang-peddled drugs like crack. The stark difference in the context surrounding black vs. white poverty is a huge factor in the outcomes of the poor.

>>76336801
There are he's just a retard that doesn't know what he is talking about

>>76341000
blacks in the US literally have 10 times the murder rate of whites. Whites have the same murder rate as Belgium, blacks have the same murder rate as Zimbabwe.

Detroit had the highest median income in the world when it was a white city. Now it's like a little piece of Africa here in the US

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>my house has over a meter thick stone walls

Shits a fortress tbqh

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>>76341033
Yes he does. Almost everything he's said has been extremely accurate. You just want to defend your shoddy cookie-cutter house and soulless neighborhood.

>>76341110
what happens if you hit your head on a wall? it must be like hitting a brick or something.

As a kid we used to accidentally knock holes in the wall. If you hit your head against that wall, you'd probably split it open

>>76341108
Yes. And there are many reasons as to why this is the case.

>>76341145
Nah it's just an attitude that you and him share. I get it suburbs don't appeal to single childless men. But don't go around preaching about shit you don't know a about

>>76341175
You die. That's why Estonia has such good PISA results: our walls are stone so retards die instead of costing us resources

>>76341226
I lived in many suburbs growing up. They're culturally barren places for simple-minded people who only value creature comforts. Sorry.

>>76329759
Because like everything in america that requires a herculean effort to do anything

>>76341338

Jaded outcast the post

>>76341553
>Jaded outcast
Says the one who wants to live in a tiny copypasted bubble full of bland ass copypasted people instead of living in a city and actually interacting with people from all walks of life and who actually have interesting experiences to relate.

>>76341175
>knocking holes in the wall just by hitting it
jesus christ

if you hit a wall you hit a wall, its you fucked not the house

>>76341691
Lived in chicago until i was 30. I don't need or want to see junkies and niggers

>>76336277
why didnt you use different colors besides green you fuck

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>>76341175
>accidentally knock holes in the wall
Fucking lmao

>>76332989
>>Get a good job
>>Stay at home and save up
Easier said than done.

>>76341818
Sorry that you were too poor to live in a good area and too afraid to interact with people who look different than you.

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>>76328441
>Why? Stone is superior
We do use stone and brick but we also have wood houses from the 1600s and natural disasters even destroy steel framed buildings here. We have a lot of wood so it's easy to get and sensible in cold environments.

>>76341926
i like green you fat american twat

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>>76342086
Old New Amsterdam era wooden home on Brooklyn.

>>76330143
Saratoga Springs still looks nice but you need piles of money to live in the central part of town

>>76328441
>>76342086
>>76342161

And brick houses in Boston.

American's can only afford houses made out of wood? There's not a single wooden building here and we're the poorest country in europe. Sounds like a scheme to build as many houses as possible in an area, cheaply, and then charge 100-300k to middle class suburbites.

>>76342068
Wew lad. You'll grew up eventually

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>>76328550
>Houses built with stone wouldnt be destroyed by storms.

Pic related is concrete and steel after a tornado.

>>76331691
Those circle freeways I always wondered how its like to use them, check out fresno. We just have this big ass road called herndon.

>>76342364
Its a bypass road to avoid having traffic go straight into the center of the city.

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>>76342211
Fuck, here is the picture.

Why do some people think limiting cars will make people use public transport?
I fucking hate public transport I would rather sit in traffic for an hour than take the Bus.

>>76342329
was probably wood painted to look like concrete knowing you yanks

>>76342538
post the philly colonial road too

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i'm from boston, plenty of buildings are made out of brick here. All the other states are godless

>>76342583
Yes and the steel is merely bundles of plastic straws painted to look like steel beams. How cunning the Jews in this land are.

>>76342642
>calls other states godless
>is from boston