Why kids are so far on the right side these days?

the internet

Memes

>>76315847
It just seems that way because you can find out about it on the internet. It probably has been this way forever.

>>76315900
But the Internet was also 15yrs ago and we were into drinking and fucking. No one cared about history, patriotism and hurr durr Poland strong

I don't know, but I like it.
Nationalist europeans are cool.

>>76315964
>It probably has been this way forever.
Absolutely not

>>76315964
This, most youths are more than ok with leftism as long as it means having access to weed

Because Counterculture

Leftism has become mainstream, leftist policies and ideas are widely accepted now

Rightwing views are not, thats why its cool and edgy to be rightwing right now, whether youve got a clue about politics or not

>>76315847
Because they grew up surrounded by nigger culture like gang banging, thug life, and shitty music

Because of a competitive job market and high social mobility, which means that people tend to have individualist values and are also quicker to notice either the high disparity in achievement within their peer group/generation or the encroachement of underpaid foreigners on their unqualified job.

>>76315847

They grew up having access to internet hugboxes that do nothing but circlejerk them into extremism.

>>76315847
They aren't. It's a /pol/ meme based off of a single """poll""" done by a German marketing agency. And the part they always conveniently leave out is one of the questions in the poll asked about globalism, and found that Gen Z is the most globalist generation ever.

Also it seems that way because 14 year old /pol/tards spend a lot more time online than regular people.

>>76315847
They are sick of living in nations that are cuckholds for globalists
Take NZ for example, we are allowing Chinese businessmen to buy out property, land, companies, etc when they don't even step foot on NZ
Kids are absolutely sick of the older generations fucking up the nation for us future kiwis
Children in NZ now have some of the lowest standards of living in the OECD, compare this to the old days when kids in NZ had some of the highest living standards
Older generations have absolutely destroyed this nation for young ones

>>76316143
they are usually loser neets though, those foreigners wouldnt be there if they were actually willing to work

>>76315847
They aren't more right wing than they used to, it's just that with the existence of internet they get their voices heard much more compared to before.
Don't believe in retarded /pol/ claims without any base.

Because in modern politics conservatism is related to learning on the right.

The youth of today is facing a much more uncertain future than that of their parent's. With all this modern struggles such as joblessness, need for higher education, racial instability and terrorism, has pushed youth into finding identity in their own culture.

It's not necessarily counterculture, but more of security of culture not being mixed with leftist ideals. That's what the cause in south Africa is mostly.

>>76315847
fashion, and the want to be different from their parents generation. kids follow the things that require the least logic and reason because its the easiest path. the right is fashionable, like beards, so they follow it requiring no other thought to be part of the crowd in their safe space.

>>76315986
>>76316097
>>76316138
Please go back to /r/the_donald.

>>76316198
>>76316233
Well the votergroup of the AfD is mainly young people.

If it where only for young people then in Eastern Germany AfD would get absolut majorities.

>>76316198
They are. Look at the election results in Europe, where right side is suported by people who are 18-24.

15 years ago only old orthodox people (and few skinheads) voted for them

>>76315900
>>76315942
These. While the youth in general has shifted to the right (still center-left) compared to previous generations, the vast amount of young adults and teens you see on the far-right are just autists that do it because they find it funny and it's a community they fit in for once. The real takeaway from this is that there are a lot more anti-social autists then there were before.

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>>76316150

this

also partially >>76316143, except nothing to do with individual values, everything to do with meritocracy and downward social mobility of whites. If you are raised high status and you find yourself losing status, you will naturally lash out.

Also things like the internet, electronics, etc make most people more socially isolated and dissatisfied.

>>76315973

The internet was still kind of new back then, and wasn't fully exploited.

Access to the internet. Turns out people's views change if they don't have to rely solely on leftist run news outlets.

People bitch that society is so "divided" now. Well that's because the other fucking side finally has a way to express itself without being censored so they are standing the fuck up now. Leftists have been in charge for so long they forgot that not everyone agrees with their bullshit and think the world is ending now that the right is rising.

>>76316380
they have also way worse perspectives on the job market and have to grow up with way less secure.

>>76316304
I'm not saying there are no right wing young people, I'm saying the amount of right wing young people is not that different that what it was in the olden days. There's always going to be a healthy amount of disagreements on social and economic policies at any given time.

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>>76316418
If people think society is divided now, they should have seen '70s and '80s Italy

>>76316418
I must disagree because here in Slovenia where leftism was law for so many years and everything else was banned, you could often hear 'Hitler was right', 'send the niggers (unaligned exchange students) back' or gas the gyppos' in smoky barrooms on saturday nights.

>>76315847
only autists. irl they are cringy af and look mentally disabled

nobody gets close to them.
get off the internet

Green pants are quite trendy this season, I shit you not.

Looks like those people just wanna be hip.

>>76316611
Green pants are right wing?

>>76315847
The vocal left are so extreme it pushes centrists further to the right.

>>76316304
>>76316319
lol what. As far as I know the far right part that does well with the youth is the Front National.

>>76315847
Those are not particularly young people, they look to be in their 40s

>>76316697
>reading comprehension

>>76316512

Exactly, that's why I would rather say that it's cause is pressure on people's identity, culture and future.

If you live in a society that demonizes you because of who you are you'll get a split in the population, those who integrate in the rhetoric and become submissive (like 3rd wave feminism) and those who solidify in their culture by making a stand.

Probably a bad example, but it's relatable to the German youth pre WW2 where WW1 left youth with a grim future filled with liberalism and perversion (look up Berlin sex industry pre WW2).

>>76315847
Being a bit more right than far-left is not "far to the right"

In the same way that central Europe overtook England in civilizational ability, non-Europe is catching up to Europe.

This means that non-Europeans are living better now than any time in the last century, and conversely, that Europeans are living worse now than ever before (going by social resources, not absolute living standards)

This means that low quality Europeans who were held up by the transient are now hurt more than ever.

>>76316626
No, just trendy. I saw some posters in malls with green pants.

social mainstream is turbo left lately
and the young wanna be anti social

>>76316752

"Gas everyone who isn't white." isn't "a bit more right than the far-left.

>>76316820
National-socialism is left

>>76315973

Europe and the world is changing


But Poland is (at least openly) a lot more right leaning than many places in Europe
(in YouTube country it is publicly acceptable? We get lynched by media very quickly)

But I have seen many people become more right leaning even here

>>76316896
In your country*

Autocorrect

Reaction.

Globalists are clearly pushing an Afrocentric pro immigrant anti white agenda because it will create a wider disparity in intelligence between the global elites and the brown people serving them.

Mostly because people are kind of sick of the left pushing progressivism so hard. Its reactionary, and kind of counter culture, internet also makes it easy to be right wing. That is in west.

In India, right wing is almost mainstream. especially with the internet most people now a days don't get spooked by hindu leaning nationalist political parties like they used to about 5-8 years ago. that has a lot to do with their better governance/efficiency generally and their very successful propaganda.

its hilarious these alt-right retards innocently believe people actually turn into far-right or something like that and start to sympathize with you

nobody irl sides with you autists lmao
losers are losers, and you are always on the losers side

>>76315847
Because Pooland is shite

Old people were boomer leftists now they're rebelling.

>>76316866
don't people refer to values when talking about right/left? Ie conservatives and liberals, rather than socialist sharing versus capitalist private ownership.

Also on topic, fascism was very popular after the first world was among "intellectuals", or the elite. It's quite the opposite now, will it swing over again? And what will it take to do that?

>>76317142
Do your nationalist parties promote shitting inside the toilet or outside of it?

>>76317515
Fascism as an ideology is not right wing, even if its historical realization was possible only by colluding with right wing forces due to their shared interest in stopping Bolshevism

>>76315847
They're mostly middle class types. Fascism is a revolt of the lower-middle classes who feel squeezed by working class militancy and big business.

>>76317515
that "people" also calls leftie scum "liberals", but I don't want to be part of that mess.
The only Right is economically right, the only liberal is classic liberal.

>>76315847
Maybe they're finally fed up of relentless left-wing liars trying with all their might to manipulate the public discourse for their own twisted agenda.

14 year old /pol/ autists going through an edgy phase and spending 16 hours a day online is not equivalent to kids being right wing. Most kids just end up whatever ideology their parents were, meaning that most of Gen Z will be as liberal or more liberal than their parents. Anyone replying to this thread as if it were an actual phenomenon are just damage-controlling /pol/tards trying to pretend that they matter.

>>76315847
theyv grown up in current era

>>76317755
The people claiming that right wing is growing are just secluded middle class kids that discovered that a sizeable minority of the population is right-wing only thanks to the Internet and they believe that this changes the current zeitgeist completely

>>76317838
this

>>76317566
I know thats a rhetorical question, but BJP's major reason for popularity is their big push towards addressing these problems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swachh_Bharat_Abhiyan
This campaign is everywhere, businesses promote it everytime they promote their brand. I see this logo everywhere here. but among all their development related campaigns BJP goverment does they also have silent religious/right wing agenda even though it was not the reason they got into power.

>>76317755
>>76317838
I'm not even some alarmist /pol/ tier right-winger, but you two are delusional. Whether it has staying power is another topic, but they have certainly gained momentum as of now.

Go outside.

>>76315847
I was sick of the liberal shit shoved down my throat in school, sick of muslims killing people in my country, and angry I was bearing the brunt of selfish decisions my parents generation made

we aren't that far right, the reality is society has just swing so wildly to the left that gays jews and degenerated dominate the media, drug use is rampant, the economy is in the shitter and our society is being shat on by xenos

>>76318106
Right wing did gain momentum as in parts of the center became more conservative due to external pressure
>Go outside.
I go outside, and I don't recall seeing any mass right wing student manifestation like those we had in the '70s

>>76318106
a big right wing wave predicted after trump has not materialised
hofer, le pen, wilders all failed. ukip has collapsed. afd is stagnating and declining

>>76318205
>ukip has collapsed
Isn't it natural, since they obtained exactly what they wanted? No need for an anti-EU party to exist when you leave the EU

>>76315847
fuck whites

>>76318159
R A R E

>>76315847
It's a natural counter to the extreme left sjw/Antifa/anarcho-socialist. Anything that develops has a counter balance. It also is helped by colleges that are strongly pushing the left so it's a form of rebellion.

>>76315847
except they aren't. and a few staged pictures won't change this fact

>>76318264
t. turk

>>76318205
Isn't le pen a socialist? /pol/ only liked them cause they were anti immigration I think

>>76318353
I am a Greek

>>76318205
So? A decade ago we wouldn't even be speaking of them.

>>76318334
>staged

so these people are just pretending to be right wing?

last month I was at a huge anti-slam meeting in *redacted* and there were several hundred people, about 50 young people came independently with more tagging along with parents

So, being left wing or right wing? Political views are so fucked up i don't know what is right and what is wrong anymore.

>>76318546
Political discourse has forever been ruined by American political thought

>>76317262
>english teacher in Japan
The far right is very strong in Japan.
Your ass is in danger.

>>76318444
most of them are just spies and paid shills

>>76318736
I understand shills are typical in your country, but they are much rarer in the free world

There are a slew of growing right wing youth movements around the world

anti-immigration
labour union movements (non commie)
Right wing commnists
anti-EU groups
fascists
national pride groups
anti-islam

>>76319189
you're naive and childish.
there are probably more shills in the west (non-western countries has nothing to do with freedom anyway) than in russia.
it's just that unlike in russia they represent different groups and parties so it is not so easy to spot them. shills are everywhere

>>76319339
situation is similar in turkey.
erdoğan is not a puppet but he was brought up to his position by THEM, so he's still loyal to them, loyal as in he lets them slowly infilitrate every fokin single part of the country

>leader of CHP is a weak, dull, uncharistmatic man that many suspect was put there by THEM, besides CHP has the backing of our local THEM representative, the sabbaists.

>leader of MHP is an absolute controlled shill, suspected by many to be the rapebaby of an armenian orphan girl and a member of MIT, turkish branch of CIA

>leader of HDP is, as a person, more charismatic than others (save erdoğan of course) but I doubt he has much actual influence over the politics of the party. HDP is literally your average European green/socialist party + kurdish nationalism which will probably hint you as to who created them

>>76319339
shills in right wing pollitics are rare, particularly in the far-right

The reason is primarily that big money supports internationalists, free trade junkies and libertarians, people wanting to lower wages, and foreign interest groups

the only "shills" to be found in the right are those sent by church groups who want to disguise their theological interest in matters
sometimes corporate interests back anti-communists, or anti establishment groups. sometimes small business lobys shill the right to stop commie-shit; but really the church is the biggest source of shills.
It's really more about disguising who is supporting the right, rather than exaggerating the rights support base

compare this to the virulent shills for minority ethnic groups, foreign interests, communists, and far left.
Often in government rallies you find paid participants, communist rallies are full of foreign agents, and femenist/gay groups are heavily padded by private donors.
And of course the government shills and thugs who want to rise up the ladder

there is a very clear difference

>>76319189
>everyone who disagrees with me is a soros shill
>shills don't exist in the free world
hmm...

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>>76315847
>be far right
>don't have a silly haircut

>>76319595
You are an absolute retard with one of the most idiotic, selfish, and autistic world views I have ever seen. You shouldn't be allowed to vote.

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>>76318093
>indians are about to spend 30 billion on toilets
>the toilet becomes a major hindi deity

>>76318093
Thank you for this serious post.

>>76319595
"i wont sell my land to gooks and mudslimes, kahn. i only sell propane and propane accessories"

VOTE!!

http://www.weider-jp.com/know/bukatsu/club?param=gBQd+NOKHZwf/mpHwFKGnSkMrSFSxE+i

counter culture

>>76316411
>everything to do with meritocracy and downward social mobility of whites
But there's no "downward social mobility of whites" here, Tyrone

>>76319687
what an insightful counter-argument, and what well founded opinions you have

I've been in the far right for years, we have to fight hard for supporters and don't have time to solicit or employ shills.
we don't have the commercial value environmental, internationalist etc have so we don't attract corporate support
and because we usually don't align with major parties and because they have their own resources shills don't come from their either

We do get spies, truth be told quiet a few of them.
but they are generally sent by CT to make sure we don't blow anything up, amateurish liberal journos trying to smear us and the occasional jew shill pushing us into anti-islam organizations.
we get the jew shills first.

in fact because of the pollitical climate, particularly racial tension many of our supporters prefer not showing their faces

and while in liberal circles shills are generally most interested in pulling groups towards on of an number of unrelated ojectives, the right is really quiet collected in their beliefs, so this only happens for us when anti-authoritarian "alt right" fags try to bend traditional right wing groups. Sometimes various church groups squabble

so shills for us are not an issue as they are for other groups
When you see someone flying the flag, they are a genuine supporter and a gutsy one at that

>>76320132
>>76319595
WTF i love Laos now

>>76315847
But they're not?
Bernie and Corbyn have been the biggest attractors of youth support, not Cheeto Mussolini.

>>76320132
Nothing you say is coherent English. Please kill yourself.

>>76320132
Kids who were originally conservative may be moving further right, but the majority of youth would not identify with the right wing at all. That is not because of universities, it's because the far-right offers nothing but identitarian nationalism and welfare chauvinism.

Anyway, it's fucking hilarious to see the thirsty /pol/tards in this thread get an erection from some average girl with a swastika armband.

>trump sucks
>corbyn got a huge youth turnout
>macron won
far right ideals will never be realized in places other than 3rd world shitholes

>>76320192
I love you too Poland, fantastic country and such a great culture

>>76320339
another great post, I really appreciate how you took pains to use capital letters and punctuation when you called me incoherant, it really adds substance to your critique

>>76320256
they have both undoubtedly done very well, but they are both populist and Corbyn doesn't have a proper adjenda.

on the whole though they youth are still moving rights, the youth are a largely disenfranchised group, so a surge in support isn't the best measure of views. Also notable is that sanders supporters come often from further left.

>>76320386
I think actually the universities are the driving force behind this
Their access to youth and their ability to financially and socially hinder conservative youths is enormous.
Several young supporters I know left university because of what they perceived as hostile treatment from lefitist students that was encouraged by the institution

Many people don't identify as "Right" anymore because of the stigma and misrepresentation attached to it.
christians usually don't self identify as right, neither do many supporters from the young business community who prefer to remain un-labeled.
many youths in the right are just angry at how hard degenerates are pushing them, they don't want to identify as anything they just want to be left alone.
That is true of a lot of our supporters, which is why many end up labeled as "anti-x" Their political beliefs are defensive.

It's typically the neo-nazis, far right, rasial supremacists and ultra-nationals who like identifying as "right" because it assures them they are part of the normal pollitical spectrum

The right has a lot to offer yong people personally and socially, but if you arn't a supporter you wouldn't now it.
We network kids across schools, provide parents with safe settings for their kids away from gays and drugs, we help employers find patriots, we help young people find partners who arn't degenerate.

what an autist this laos expat human garbage is

I think people start to realize that left as gone to far it is easy to see that it is much more easy to speak about far right point of view with young people , something that 5 year ago it could be a sucidal think to do

>>76320754
t. Davido-kun the eigo sensei

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>>76315847
Survival instinct, and the spectrum was moved to the left so sectors of centrists who stayed still are now on the right as consequence

>>76320339
im shit at english but i get what he said

>>76315847
they arent

>>76315847
Backlash against leftist cuckery.

>>76320671
I love laos now
How's the Rohingya situation over there?

>>76320994
I'm no expert, but my understanding is the rohyinga are being BTFO in Burma, but since they are in the south of the country few are arriving here in laos

I was in *redacted* and I didn't see any there, so I can only presume very few are arriving at all

The people of Laos don't want rohyinga, nobody does exept the open anusus in the euro human rights groups

The thais have the Burmese border under a tight lock-down with regular patrols and searches of people on public transport as part of a combines effort to keep out a range of minority groups there

>>76315847
Not even close. Kids are normies wavering between the neoliberal center left or center right depending on the zeitgeist. Fascists, alttards and neo nazis are mostly edgelords and fedoras.

>>76321890
so what is the golden dawn?

call them edgelords and they wouldn't even know what it meant

>>76321951
Golden dawn is a bunch of controlled , lowlife thugs and nazi larpers. They only get the protest vote.

>>76315847
whenever a new political faction gets into power, they always make the mistake of pulling the pendulum their way too far, ensuring that whenever they let go it will swing very far in the opposite direction.

The modern left is probably the biggest example of this in recent history. Had they not pulled so far, everything would probably be fine. They got greedy. Now there's going to a whole generation of LE PRAISE KEK and SHADILAY in USA coupled with quasi-fascist bullshit in Europe.

Then they'll probably pull the pendulum too far as well, and after that we will literally have a black bull in every household and mandatory gay sex in schools.

Such is politics.

>>76315847
because millennials are too left wing, hence: gen z will be more right wing

>>76318397
Almost all of the European "far right" parties are socialist to a degree, or at least pretend to be.
Most American republican style conservative free market policies would be wildly unpopular here, they're just riding the anti immigration train.

>>76320671
>we help young people find partners who arn't degenerate.
i am intrested

>>76321775
>>76320671
>>76320339
>>76320132
>>76319687
>>76319609
>>76319595

look at the difference in these two posters. it's clear who is the open-minded, reasonable individual and who isn't. This why i tend to lean right, nearly every time i've talked with people who have left leaning views, they don't actually want to discuss an issue, they just want me to agree with them and to be called a "smart cookie" metaphorically.

>>76318159

So are you japanese or chinese?

>>76318631
This.

>>76322499

Yeah, these so called "far right" parties because they're all just social democratic leftist parties who've realized that third world immigration won't save European socialist welfare states from the boomer pension crisis.

There's not proper radical right option out there right now I'm afraid.

>>76318205
party politics is meaningless and largely a pre-determined pretense of democracy, thread is about individuals

>>76315847
Many young white men see many of their women not want to date them and instead hang out with the diverse new and more exciting negroes and arabs. this obviously creates a lot of resentment due to their entitlement so in response they vote for parties who promise to remove these people they see responsible for their dating woes

they idolize literal nazis like pewdiepie and jontron.

>>76318205
This. Meanwhile look at the youth voting blocks for candidates like Melechon, Corbyn, Trudeau, etc. People here are living in an echo chamber.

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>>76326419

The Soviets were much more fun than the pussy punk nice guy leftists we have today. Sent anarchists to the gulag and didn't afraid of anything

>>76315847
cuz leftists are pussies and they prove that every day

>>76315964
Absolutely not. Back when I was in school the fashionable thing to do was to say how much you hate this shithole and how you're leaving it the first chance you get. Now the same people (and their siblings) are wearing hussar shirts and seeing enemies.of their beautiful country everywhere.