Why the fuck was this allowed?

I theorize the Western Elites didn't want any more pan-slavic countries so they lobbied/bribed the right people for it to happen.

>>76312380
the splitting of chechno-slovenia or its unification?

To punish the evil

I guess cause Slovaks were afraid that all their money and brains would go to Prague, with Czechia being centralised even today.

Why are Czechs such greedy fucking assholes? Czechoslovakia could have been a regional power by now but instead they're just two irrelevant shitholes that keep sending people over here.

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First logical step in revising Trianon.

>>76312434
i thought it was czechs getting tired of sending monies to poorer slovaks
>>76312471
never again

>>76312380
you fuckers let hitler take the red part for free

Slovaks became fascist and realized they could be independent

>>76312380
Czech politicians and Slovak politicians couldn't agree on how the state was supposed to be run so they split it up.

>>76312396
tinfoil pls go

>>76312434
This happens anyway

>>76312616
>sending monies

After communism there were no money to be sent

>>76312644
Also this

>>76312456
>irrelevant
I guess the actual well-being of the citizens was more important than playing empire for a ruling elite. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the self-determination of tiny countries like Czechia, Slovakia or us. We can still cooperate and help each other without either of us being oppressed or robbed by the other, we can be friends on equal and fair terms. This is what the EU is (should be) about.

>>76312742
But when are you going to get the Hungarian parts of slovakia back

>>76312791
Sometime between eternity and never

>>76312810
What makes you say that

>>76312823
Slovaks won't let them and a war inside the V4 is very unlikely

Why is it that I've met a fair few Czech people and they were all pretty cunty but I've met one Slovak and he was absolutely bro tier?

>>76312844
Your implying the slovaks would have a choice

>>76312872
Slovaks are soft spoken and subtle.
Czechs will talk about something very bluntly and directly.

only know two Czechs and talked to one Slovak online once though, so its probably not enough data.

>>76312791
When we stop being shit and start making babbies. Right now, all the countries around here face depopulation because entitled materialistic cunts don't care about family anymore. But soon the trend will reverse.

Honestly I care less about flagautism and patriotism and more about nationalism and the well-being of both Hungarians and Slovakians and Hungarians in the Felvidék. The problem isn't Slovak rule or bullying now, but that people don't care about their cultural roots and don't have a drive to have big families. Even if they would speak Slovak, but have many children and live happy, comfortable lives caring about their history I don't mind. The actual people are more important than political, militaristic hegemony.

We had political, militaristic hegemony before 1914, and where would it lead us? We still became a minority in our own country, resented and even hated by other people. Demanding the land back doesn't mean anything. We need to win the people back by being fair and successful. We need to improve our economy, our society and have good relations with the other white, European countries around us.

>>76312905
Ok, mister genius geopolitician, how would the slovaks be forced to give up their clay?


>>76312872
>a fair few Czech people
>one Slovak

Gee, I wonder

>>76312909
>slovaks
>subtle

Lel, no

>>76312872
If you're talking to czech/slovak guys instead of their hot as fuck girls then you are definitely doing it wrong.

>>76312909
>talked to one Slovak
>Slovaks are

jej

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>>76312942

Why are Czechs so autistic?

>>76312942
Plebiscite

>>76312697
>no money to be sent
nigger the only one with a better economy than czechoslovakia in the commie block was probably east germany
you ain't seen poor until you've seen romania

>>76312972
I literally qualified that with >not enough data

>>76312935
pretty much
listen to janos guys

>>76312977
at least you didn't have debt

>>76312964

>Czech women

Literally 1/3rd of all Czech women are involved in Pornography and/or prostitution

>>76312935
Magyarization was working

>>76312935
>We still became a minority in our own country,

This is the great Hungarian historiographical boogeyman, the idea that the Hungarians were once a majority throughout the lands of the crown of St. Steve sans Croatia but that they were progressively replaced by Slovaks and Romanians in the wake of natural and political disasters such as the black death and the Ottoman occupation. To me, it seems implausible that Hungarians would be the one ethnicity in preindustrial Hungary with lower birth rates than their subjects, as there is no economic explanation I can think of as to why this was supposed to be so.

>>76312994
true
but was it really worth it?
comrade ceausescu fucked over millions with this shit
come to think about it
how was hungary in the soviet period?
did you guys have a dictator that would have went down in history as a hero if he stepped down earlier too?

>>76312973
Germanic heritage

>>76312976
Good luck getting it through

>>76312977
Our economy was going full transformation so paying for Slovak development wasn't really the highest priority

>>76313004
Seems like you have marketable skills in that area too considering how easily you plucked that number out of your ass

>>76313045
oh
ok

>>76313025
>no economic explanation
nigga wut?

It's not about lower birthrates, but the actual Ottoman occupation and the zenith of the Ottoman war happening in the middle of Hungary, where ethnic Hungarians lived for 150 years. We do have the actual archeological evidence to support that both the Tartar and the Ottoman wars hit Hungarians the most.

>>76313094
Granted, I don't know all that much about the historical situation in Hungary at large, but from the perspective of Slovenian history, there were in fact two areas that were given over to Slovenes for colonisation, one for repopulation (a part of Somogy) and the other for the defence of Austria against the Turks (an area just to the east of the current border with Slovenia called Orszag, or Stražno in Slovene). Both communities assimilated into the Hungarian nation in the span of a century or two. So the reasonable conclusion that can be drawn from this is that the Hungarians were never a majority in all of the lands controlled by the Hungarian nobility, just like the Slovene lands with their Bavarian nobility were never ethnically German (though, surprisingly, Austrian nationalists did put forth a theory identical to the Hungarian one, in that the Slovenes are supposed the product of Croaitan and Serbian flight before the Ottoman Turks into formerly exclusively German lands).

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>>76313161
>Hungary was repopulated by various groups, including Slovenes
>I draw a "logical conclusion" from this disregarding the actual archeological evidence that shows the lifestyle of the people living in the Carpathian basin prior 1526 that shows that in the 10th, 11th and 12th century traditionally nomadic, herding, fishing population taking up residence in the underpopulated marshes and arid steppes and grasslands gradually decade after decade start to give up the seasonal yurta-winter pit hut lifestyle and start to build permanent villages.

The fucking mental gymnastic is off the charts...

If you deny that there was a mass immigration from the pontic steppes to the Carpathian basin that before the 1241 mass destruction made up the majority in the basin, or at least the half the population, then you are an absolute loonie.

>>76313288
what does the map say?

>>76313344
This would be Hungary if Ottomans minded their own business

>>76313288
Whichever side the truth may be on, the fact remains that ritka means booty, tushy in my language, heheh.

>>76313344
magyar = magyar
szláv = slav
dots = magyarized later on

>inb4 where are the Romanians
These maps were actually made based upon archeological evidence, so the "slav" actually shows settled down plow farming villages, while the "magyar" is also the pechenegs, kabars, jász and other pontic people and the assimilated slavs from Etelköz and Levédia, who became part of the tribal society or provided crops for the Hungarian population around them.

The main difference is the village structure, used tools, ornaments, jewellery, burial habits... etc.

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>>76313433
>also inb4 slav and vlachs had pastoral villages too

is also true, but there is a clear distinction between the pastoral society in hills, mountains, where the village raises crops and herders seclude themselves for the summer months, but the village is permanently settled, and the pontic concept of summer/winter village, where the whole village moves often and the summer residence is usually fireplaces, ditches and minimal landwork to provide a gyepü for the summer village of yurts and the winter village is pit homes, a permanent residence for wintering.

>>76313433
>while the "magyar" is also the pechenegs, kabars, jász and other pontic people and the assimilated slavs from Etelköz and Levédia
yeah i thought as much
it's always a kek when the maps with magyars(turks) on them appear
pretty sure that most of the romanians got genocided by the various migratory pops
most of them were prob in the mountains or moving to wallachia or moldova

>>76313025
>>76313025

Something like 60-80 percent of the Hungarian population was killed during the ottoman wars