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cross-community edition, strictly no autismal arguing
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>>76245340
Galway.
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>no autismal arguing edition
>no one shows up
Like pottery.
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>>76245340
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>>76245556
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>>76246245
The previous thread is still going at full speed though.
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>>76246295
I like mine though.
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Am I Irish?
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>>76246397
Irish is a social construct :^)
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>>76246295
>nigga
Not very Irish desu.
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>>76245556
>Galway
Where are you hiding them?
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>>76246397
You can be an honorary Irishman if you recognise the superiority of Irish culture and the need to liberate the North from the clutches of the British empire
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>>76246417
Thanks Anon, now I just feel like shit.
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>>76246424
Fear dubh then? Or fear gorm which is what blacks are called in Irish for some reason no one's quite sure of?
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>>76246444
You'll never find all of us.
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>>76246499
/éire/ expedition to Galway when?
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>>76246446
But my dad is Irish, aren't I?
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>>76246556
We can take a golfing trip to Barna.
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If someone is born to an irish parent abroad, raised and educated in a foreign country, are they irish?

I don't mean legally irish, but culturally irish.
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>>76246705
A dog raised in a stable is a dog, not a horse.
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>>76246705
Depends if you're an ethnic or civic nationalist. As a civic nationalist I believe only those who are living or have lived in Ireland could be considered Irish.
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>>76246787
Good post
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>>76246773
Dogs and Horses are different species. Homosapiens are not.

A human raised in a barn is a human, a human raised in a stable is human.
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>>76246787
civic nationalism isn't nationalism
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>>76246705
I think that someone born to an Irish parent abroad and raised abroad cannot call themselves truly Irish, but also that someone born to non-Irish parents but born and raised in Ireland also cannot be considered fully Irish. Irishness is based on both genes and memes, if you only have one and not the other then you're not truly Irish.
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>>76246705
Depends whether you think of Irish-Americans as Irish, or at what point in their lineage do you consider them to stop being Irish. Culturally Irish has a lot to do with where you were raised too, if you grow up around only other ethnicities in a sunny country playing baseball then it's fair to say you're less Irish than someone who suffered playing hurling in the rain with his fellow Irish.
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>>76246827
hmmm maybe you're right

no borders, one world, one human race
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>>76247002
>no borders
That would be completely unsustainable. Everyone can be human and you can still tell some of them to fuck off into the hellhole they were born in.
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>>76247002
>no borders, one world, one human race
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>>76245340

free scotland from english degeneracy. we're like northern ireland, held into britain by a vocal violent slight but declining majority
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>>76245340
>people who got less than 300 points in their Leaving Cert
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>>76247002
>no borders
Except the sea. The sea is a great border. Let Afro-Eurasia be one country if it means Ireland is independent and united.
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>>76247114
>tfw I could've cheated but didn't
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>>76247002
>Scotland
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>>76247129
>Let Afro-Eurasia be one country
Not on my watch
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>>76247180
>an ex penal colony
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>old thread almost at 400 posts
Such is the power of autism.

There's a lad there claiming to be the original Angrylad.
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>>76247146
I used to cheat on christmas/summer tests in 2nd year by typing answers in a text message and hiding my phone in my pencil case. I was seriously tempted to do it for Junior Cert but was glad I didn't after I heard of the consequences for being caught at a state exam.
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>>76247126
>those folder names
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>>76247219
He can't be Angrylad! I'm Angrylad! GRAARGHFUCKINGPEDOSRAAH
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>>76247146
the leaving cert is so easy there is never any reason to cheat
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>ordinary level can get, at most, 360 points
how shameful
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>>76247292
It's hard to organize folders fag
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>>76247219
>>76247299
>angrylad is one person
Angrylad is a state of being. There is an angrylad within all of us
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>>76247317
You'd want to be awfully thick to only be doing ordinary level subjects though.
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>>76245340
why do you guys talk to each other in english in your own general? are you THIS much of cucks?
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How do we avoid future threads turning into /meta/ rants?
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>>76247383
We are speaking Hibernian, it's a different language that is mutually intelligible with English.
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>>76247406
Not at all,we are just going to have to accept this
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>>76247372
Angrylad is probably my favourite part of /éire/ lore.

>>76247406
Well, the one in the last thread seems to have simmered down a bit now that the anon doing all the complaining explained himself better and is actually listening to those who reply to him.
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>>76247406
>not enjoying the sight of /eire/ burning
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>>76247314
t. swot
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>>76247372
fuck off
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>>76247462
>read book once
>don't be a complete retard who forgets everything
>get at least a B2
it's pissy easy
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Lads I got 625 on my Leaving doing 12 subjects and I never even went to school. Cop on like.
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Lads I got 700 on my Leaving doing 14 subjects and I never even opened a book. Cop on like.
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Lads I got 1000 on my Leaving doing 20 subjects and I never even lived in Ireland. Cop on like.
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>>76247646
You don't have to live in Ireland, Libya does the Irish Leaving Cert too.
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>>76247729
>Libya does the Irish Leaving Cert too.
Why?
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>>76247764
No idea. They study Arabic instead of Irish but apart from that it's the same. I first learned of it two years ago when a Libyan came to /int/ asking Irish posters for some sites with exam papers.
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Speaking of Libya. My uncle is a senior officer in the British navy and for the last 20+ years has worked in Libya, going there on a 2 months on 2 months off basis. He isn't allowed to disclose what he does there but seems to be very wealthy as he has a few million to his name.
Does anyone know what he's doing down there? Is it common for those in the British navy to be stationed in places like that? Anytime I ask my parents they tell me I shouldn't ask questions about it.
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>>76247872
westie
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>>76247764
They regard the Irish certificate as more valuable on an international level than the libyan one
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>>76247406
force the trips awa' through a barrage of relentless bullying
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>>76247965
There are no trips
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>>76247965
>let's shitpost the thread to death!
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4 day weekend lads and still no idea what I should do
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>>76247995
tripfag aura, they don't need it at this point except if someone impersonates them, thus usurping the attention normally directed towards them
>>76248014
they're the AIDS killing /éire/ so it'll hardly matter
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isnt this beautiful?
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>>76248041
I dunno, I think this thread was pretty okay until you decided to make it about how much you hate other users again.
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>>76248117
are you blaming me for answering a meta question with an answer you don't like?
I made this thread because I didn't want to post in the trip's thread
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>>76248055
I like it
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>>76248117
Good post
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>having a pretty good day
>sudden overwhelming sadness for no apparent reason
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>>76247764
They said its a better foundation for their studies and provides better opportunities abroad.
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>>76248465
Still weird that they picked the LC over all the other alternatives.
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>>76248281
go for a walk you drama queen
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>>76248501
this, it's nice out unless you're a bogger which I'm afraid is not curable
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>>76248517
t. Dub.
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>>76248483
It was only one or two schools and the students sat the proctored exams in our embassy on Malta.
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>>76248281
>having good day
>remember life is ephemeral and all will be dust in time
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>>76248720
>not realising existence only exists around me and I am the only important thing to ever exist
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browsing old threads on the archive
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>>76247219
The original Angrylad would never claim to be a personality.
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>>76249574
Why?
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>>76249574
Don't bother, all the good ones are lost.
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>>76249774
Which is what he wants you to think he thinks.
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>>76249804
nobody posting
far too much swiss yankery in the months of August and September, threads started getting good in October
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>>76249894
scratch that /éire/'s always been shite
fuck this general
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>>76249844
there is an archive that still has old ones from 2013 and 2014 but they're text only and you can't search, only look through threads.
It's still nice they're there, I found an old /eire/ thread from July 2014.
http://4chanarchive.net/threads/int/-eire-/27310431
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>>76251342
>talking about saxonball
>namefags
>no fada
>one of the namefags shiteing on about people not liking minorities and gays in the next two threads
yeah great stuff
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>RW extremist attacks a mosque
>"This disgusting white nationalism must be stamped out"

>Muslims have been launching attacks against white civilization for years
>"Not all Muslims are like that, are you that bigoted?"
Not even attempting to defend the bus driver but why is the media so full of double standards?
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>>76252134
what habend
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>>76252134
Leftists are natural hypocrites.
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>man attacks mosque
>media is quick to say that he's a violent right-wing extremist and should be locked up

>muslims run over people and stab people while shouting "Allahu ackbar" and are members of ISIS
>"Police are baffled as to what could have possibly been the motive"
It wouldn't be so annoying if it didn't happen literally every single fucking time. You'd think the media would stop doing this shit at some point.
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>>76252134
>>76252447
I didn't hear anyone calling for christian leaders to condemn the act of white terrorism when apparently it's expected of muslim leaders every time.
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>UNIVERSITY OF LIMERICK has been designated as a “University of Sanctuary” in recognition of its initiatives welcoming asylum seekers and refugees into its university community.
>The university is awarding 17 academic scholarships to people aged 22 who live in Direct Provision.

UL leading the way once again.
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>>76253040
"white terrorism" isn't a homogeneous 'thing' and doesn't actually exist like the religious sects of Islam responsible for certain "terrorist" acts though, and the people doing it aren't doing it in the name of Christianity
absolutely dreadful post this one
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Reading James Connolly's selected writings and find myself agreeing with him
32 county socialist republic whence?
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>>76253328
>Limerick the beacon of light once again
HOW CAN OTHER COUNTIES EVEN HOPE TO HAVE A CHANCE
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Just looked at the last thread for the first time since 1pm and jesus that was funny but also horrible.
Shout out to the person who called me a weirdo.
In Dublin lads. Is a kip.
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>>76253469
Tutorial on how you make these when?
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give me a location and I'll drown you in a canal
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Has Ireland given up on unification ever happening?

It kinda pisses me off for some reason that there is a remnant of the UK on an island that is supposed to be Ireland.
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>>76253682
Yes, it will never happen.
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>>76253682
do a poo for us
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>>76253682
Dolphins barn
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>>76253748
Meant for.
>>76253560
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>>76253554
Never
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>>76253748
unironically on my way hope you're ready
meet me here
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>>76253682
>Has Ireland given up on unification ever happening?
No. We are working on it.
Will sort it once we're back from the pub.

>>76253791
>refuses to share his knowledge on oc creation
OC expert? More like OG expert.
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>>76253854
Would legit meet you if I wasn't currently bombing it out to the N7. Too slow, bender!
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>>76253923
gonna pick up your plates from the cctv footage
cameras everywhere there it's a kip, your time on this general is drawing to a close
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>>76253891
>knowledge
More like ancient secrets
And I've told you a while ago
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>>76253972
I'm getting aroused here thinking about what you'd do to me.
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>>76253682
Our cowardly politicians just love to suck up to the empire that oppressed our people for centuries, so it seems like it won't be happening for a while.
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>>76253682
Its entirely up to the lads up north.
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>>76254166
you'd get the sharp end so you would, and your body found floating by the docks, despicable bastard
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>>76254275
Sounds great to me desu.
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Tell me why I'm a weirdo.
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>>76254780
You post on /éire/.
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>>76254780
He bullies you because he likes you.
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>>76255138
Wow just like what I do!
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I'm just here to complain about the weather. Can't handle this scorchio lads. Sleeping with a caold water bottle. How do hot countries live like this. It's absolute suffering.

The tan is mighty though. Every cloud and that
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>>76253682
FUCK OFF LEO
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Connemara independence when?
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Fuck my neko ass.
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How's your Leaving Cert going lads?
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How's your plans of fucking Connemara ass going lads?
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How's your plans for the Leaving Cert in Connemara going lads?
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>Theresa May has said the Finsbury Park mosque attack justifies her plan to impose a raft of regulations on the internet.
>That is likely to include online measures,including forcing internet companies to make it easier for everyone to read private messages, and to remove extremist content or be hit with large fines.
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>>76257124
>in a country where you can already get arrested for tweeting
Feels good to not be english.
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>>76253741

It will happen in the next 20 years. NI getting left behind financially and catholics still outbreeding the huns.

The rest of Britain googled the DUP last week and found out what bunch of backwards oafs they are. Westminster already ignored NI and now the electorate want nothing to do with them either

Tiocfaidh ár lá luath nó mall
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>>76257124
End of the road for /brit/.

I just fear that some of our exiles may return when /brit/ dies.
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>>76257286
there's only one fella from what I can see
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>>76257260
Anyone ever feel bad for unionists? They love the UK but Britain doesn't give a shit about them, their heritage is descended from criminals kicked out of Scotland, most of the people on their island hate them and they'll soon be a minority on the one place on Earth they're tolerated on.

Can't blame them for being so mad, I'd be upset too if I was born into hostile world I don't belong in.
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>>76257286
/brit/ will still keep going by all the Aussies, yanks and miscellaneous other nationalities.
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>>76257565
their beliefs just circle around religious prejudices they themselves today admit are outdated, so what is there after that
their base is now being sapped away as people care more about what benefits them the most economically than ideological things (not to say some of their original motivations weren't materialistic)
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binging chris chan videos
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>>76257873
I know he went to the doctor in the end but I'm still surprised the taint thing didn't kill him.
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>>76258007
it was pretty gruesome, he kept it for days
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>my leaving cert was seven years ago
Time flies
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>>76258096
step aside old man
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>>76258096
I miss it.
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>>76258048
I thought it was weeks. I remember someone on /v/ saying it would probably become gangrenous.
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>>76258234
well I don't see how he wouldn't die if it were weeks but I wouldn't put it past him
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>>76258007
>taint thing
Explain please
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>>76258795
CWC wants to be a woman and cut hole betwixt his arsehole and bollocks and pretended it was a vagina and put things in it
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Posting from London, the DuP are literally murdering all the homos. Can you please take them back?
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>>76257260
Unionists care more for identity politics and the economic impact would need to have a dramatic effect on nationalists to carry the vote. When last checked only 22% in the North wanted unification and 83% claimed brexit had not impacted their position.

Also bearing in mind only 66% in Ireland want unification in a brexit doomsday scenario where the UK implodes upon itself you could be sure that percentage would drop given the likely dire state of Northern Ireland. We could well reach a scenario where the North votes yes but Ireland votes No.
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>>76258905
nah they got all the homos in the north it's your turn
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>>76258905
Protestantism is a religion of peace.
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>>76258953
options to make taking on the 6 counties viable:
kick out all the loyalists
OR
disband all the gardaí in every other county and focus them up there so people can continue subsisting on public sector jobs
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>>76259106
>disband all the gardaí in every other county
Well they're doing a fine job of that in rural areas.
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>>76259202
farmers have guns they can police their own land
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>>76259244
But they're not allowed shoot people. Plus guns are going out of style with farmers, most of them just have them as leftovers from when they went hunting 30 years ago.
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>>76259333
>meanwhile farmers literally setting ambushes for other farmers they think are trespassing on their land

>But they're not allowed shoot people.
who'll stop them with no garda lad cop on
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>>76259421
No Gardaí around makes it so they can have a few extra bonfires and drive home drunk more often, they won't get away with murder.
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>>76259478
says who
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>>76259535
The family and friends of the person they killed? I mean under the right circumstances you could get away with it if the person was an old man with no relatives or a foreigner or some shite but at some point someone's going to come looking for the person and the suspicion will fall on the moody auld lad with a gun.
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>>76259714
kill them too
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>idiot advocating replacing the Gardaí in rural areas with vigilante justice
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>>76259743
>Aye no mo' Garda around so let's get revenge on old O'Sullivan and his family for letting his cows stand on me field ,the old rifle'll show them
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>>76253430
You should contact your local branch of the Connolly Youth Movement - we're always holding information sessions, study groups and talks on the content of Connolly's ideas and their application to youth issues in the 21st century.

Feel free to shoot me any questions you have about Connolly as well.
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>>76259912
>advocating
there's like one level of irony on this entire conversation autistic cunt
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Wait a second.

Ireland has an openly gay, poo-in-loo as a president.

> Tiocfaidh ar lá
It's already gone, lads.
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>>76259912
As someone who's father owns a gun, I REALLY do not trust him to become the law in the village.
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>>76259972
Stop.
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>>76259972
>Against all these achievements of the mob, its enemies have but one instance of abuse of power - the French reign of Terror - and they suppress the fact that this classic instance of mob terror lasted but eight months, whereas the cold-blooded cruelty of the ruling classes which provoked it had endured for a thousand years.
ruh roh
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>>76260052
Now come on lad, you could have at least said something like "our gay will cum". See me after class.
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>>76260086
>Grandfather on the balcony again shooting at the nigerians next-door with the old Mausers and the 100 year old ammunition
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>>76259972
give me an honest account of the number of fags there are in those associations
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>Be me
>Want to move to Ireland for ages but need to get more experience in career before changing cunts again
>Parents announce out of nowhere that they're moving to Dublin for my dad's work after years of saying that they're finally staying put and that I shouldn't move too far away 'cause family ties and everything

fuckin' unfair
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>>76260312
Okay, you're definitely not welcome or eligible for membership unless you become capable of working on your prejudices. The prevalence of different sexual orientations amoung an organisation members has no bearing on the validity of its political ideas, and this is poor criteria for choosing an organisation to participate in.

>>76260155
> When the capitalists kill us so rapidly for the sake of a few pence extra profit it would be suicidal to expect that they would hesitate to slaughter us wholesale when their very existence as parasites was at stake. Therefore, the Socialists anticipate violence only because they know the evil nature of the beast they contend with. But with a working class thoroughly organised and already as workers in possession of the railroads, shops, factories and ships, we do not need to fear their violence. The hired assassin armies of the capitalist class will be impotent for evil when the railroad men refuse to transport them, the miners to furnish coal for their ships of war, the dock labourers to load or coal these ships, the clothing workers to make uniforms, the sailors to provision them, the telegraphists to serve them, or the farmers to feed them.
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>>76260522
>faggot is a sexual orientation
I'm not saying a men/women division, I'm talking about the tumblr crowd

https://twitter.com/antesdepoisfede/media

Not sure how your random quote has bearing against what I quoted, we have a vast plethora of historical instances of mass death as a result of socialist theory the like of which Connolly adhered to today, that's what I take exception with with what he said.
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Socialism is an antiquated ideology
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>>76260639
>>76260522
>>76260155
>>76259972
Also from my reading of pic related Connolly was incorrect about the whole "common ownership" thing in Early Irish society, though I haven't read far enough into his full explanation on what he's getting at thus far
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>>76260639
The Connolly Youth Movement does not take its inspiration doctrinally from identity politics. For the CYM, the class antagonism is the fundamental contradiction from which all oppression arises and may be traced back to. Marxist Feminism is actively explored by many members, but bourgeois feminism and identitarianism is opposed. The fine points, we leave generally as a matter of personal philosophy and focus on the essentials of building a movement capable of unchaining the propertyless together, but in ranking order of their identities. This isn't to say some people don't lean to identity politics, but others lean against it is as well and the general consensus arising out of this interplay is nuanced and tries not to reduce itself to simplifications or take sides in superfluous cultural wars.
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>>76260859
forgot pic of course
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>>76260908
So in short, quite a few.
No thank you.
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>>76260908
> not in ranking orders of their identities*

That was a typo.

>>76260859
Yeah, subsequent scholarship has shown that Connolly had a romantic and rosy perception of early gaelic class structure, this is excusable given that most of the nationalist historical sources of his time alluded to and supported this.
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>23 degrees outside at 9pm.
>My bedroom is in the attic.
>Heavy insulation, only a small window.
>All the heat rises.
>Drinking cup of tea.
>Chocolate biscuits melted in my hand before getting to sit down.
>Sweating.

Still love this weather desu.
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>>76261009
>having any insulation whatsoever
Lucky you.
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>>76260982
>this is excusable
No it isn't, there's also the bit where he alludes to a 'revised' version of the works of Aristotle to make it socialistic in reference to the church revising it to remove all of the "pagan" elements, I'm sure he didn't mean in a totally literal sense though and was just referring to the ideas of Aristotle rather than the words he wrote themselves being changed and moulded.
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>>76260639

> Not sure how your random quote has bearing against what I quoted, we have a vast plethora of historical instances of mass death as a result of socialist theory the like of which Connolly adhered to today, that's what I take exception with with what he said.

Stalin did mostly nothing wrong, and the ethical logic behind this is very eloquently expounded upon by Connolly himself. Death counts are also very exaggerated in the USSR, and unique to its specific conditions rather than universal characteristics of socialism. Socialist leadership emerged in Chile and Cuba without a large red terror. Cuba needed to kill the worst supporters of batista, but these were torturers and rapists who the population fully supported the punishment of. The extensive healthcare provided by states like Cuba and the USSR probably saved as many millions of lives as were lost during the industrialization or as a result of imperialistic and fascist attacks. A study by the Lancet showed that the collapse of the USSR resulted in an enormous rise in mortality and an abysmal devastation of life expectancy.

I recommend the KKE's analysis of the issue, which is a lot more detailed and thought-out than the analysis of stupid American tankies who source people like Grover Furr unquestioningly;

http://inter.kke.gr/en/articles/18th-Congress-Resolution-on-Socialism/

All in all the Soviet Union had huge faults, and future development of socialism needs to be more inclusive and democratic, but we wouldn't have the Trade Union rights, access to healthcare and other benefits we have today unless workers here who were inspired by the USSR's achievements put pressure on western governments and made them fear overthrow.
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>>76261493
>Stalin did mostly nothing wrong
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@493
The Gulag Archipelago
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Anybody want to go swimming? I have a spare wetsuit.
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>>76261493
I hope you never get into power.
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>>76261493
What about the artificial famines, the purges, the destruction of the Kulaks, the oppression of small nations, forced collectivizing on massive scales in Agriculture resulting in more famines and inefficiency, the gulags, the show trials, and all the other meme reasons bounced about - what's the /leftypol/ excuse for all that?
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>>76261237
You do realize that Connolly's references to the free association of individuals in Gaelic Ireland is only tangential and peripheral to his central argument? (i.e that all modern property relations in Ireland are the imposed outcome of British plantation and imperialism). In a certain sense, he can be forgiven, because the level of individual and economic autonomy available to Bóaires was unparalleled in the despotic Europe of the early Medieval period. Connolly just ignores the high prevalence of slavery and class stratification in Gaelic Ireland, which I agree he should have known better about, but like I said, a writer can never move much further than the standard scholarship of his day on a subject.
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>>76261918
I'm going for a rowlup and a cup of tea but we're going to have at it and have at it hard shortly, genosse.
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talked to an Irish guy at a bar and he said that norn iron would be a part of Ireland in the next 10 years. he's delusional right?
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Might go for a walk by the river tomorrow morning, should be nice. I'll be sorry when this weather ends.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSt7fMhj3v0
Summer festival!

desu!
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>>76262097
>rowlup
You're a complete crusty, Champagne socialist.
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>>76261940
Whoa you're saying strong farmers had a good deal of power as individuals I'm absolutely fucking blown away lad.
What about the ócaire, the small farmers, of the Lords who were just their céile or clients and had to pay him tribute in kind akin to serfs giving their landlord a portion of their produce.
>a writer can never move much further than the standard scholarship of his day on a subject.
The books were there afaik as they had been for centuries, if he wanted to expound on it like he was saying something original he could've used those sources himself instead of using ones like "Irish Revolutionary History" by some Murray or wherever else he got all that from.
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Irish folklore
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Anyone played this before? I'm about halfway through it. It's about a dystopian Paris.
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>>76261940
>that all modern property relations in Ireland are the imposed outcome of British plantation and imperialism
bredy irrelevant to him when the consensus today is that Early Irish society was "hierarchical and inegalitarian", what I wonder about is whether Connolly would've allowed such historical misconceptions to remain if he'd gotten into power in some twist of faith and Ireland was moulded after his vision. A disregard for history as shown by the same people who set fire to the Custom's House.
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>>76262479
I've always wanted to play it, but I heard bad things about it. Looks great but everyone says the controls and gameplay are terrible.
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>>76262432
QC is a QT!
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Shocked to learn today that some women masturbate.
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>>76261493
Oh look a taig being a commie, what a surprise, if you'd start fucking a kid we'd have the Irish national identity in one go.
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>>76262670
I masturbate all the time

wish i had a bf:(
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Fucking quality of the thread declined rapidly.
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>>76262761

Communism for you.
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>>76262714
*heems you halfway to scotland so you drown in the firth of clyde*
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>>76262282
How can someone be a crusty and a champagne socialist at the same time? You've got to explain that one to me. Trust me, I'm not a big fan of lifestyle anarchist crusties or Labour youth careerist champagne socialists.

>>76262330
ócaire were a subdivision of bóaire, i.e the lesser ones, and all bóaire had significant prospects of social mobility available to them, even though they weren't noblemen. If you increased your holdings, your descendants would be normalized into the higher stratum quickly (can't remember whether it was the first or second generation after the person).

This isn't my specialty, but I'm pretty sure there was a paucity of reliable sources on Gaelic social structure until the 20s and after.
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>>76262564
It's not a bad game but is certainly very ordinary as a sort of simple Uncharted clone in gameplay. But it has some interesting themes like the use of memory as a sort of commodity and societal tool for control. I had it free on PS Plus from a while back so gave it a try.

>>76262670
You'll be even more shocked to hear what women do with a detachable shower head with variable flow.
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djenty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le27ejQdhq4
>>76262723
We all know you by now canadian anon. We see through your tricks.
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>>76262920
>You'll be even more shocked to hear what women do with a detachable shower head with variable flow.
Wash their vaginas?
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>National day on friday
>Lost the flagpole
>>76262930
I'm not sure what I should make of this song
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>>76262904
Quite sure ócaire and bóaire were separate divisions of the céile of the Lords, they could achieve nemed/noble status but it was rare iirc, the nemed class also had divine connotations in pre-Christian Ireland so you could compare that to divine right in the nobility of later ages in Europe.
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>>76262977
You don't need adjustable pressure to do that.
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>>76263032
You're not a real country anyway.
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>>76263052
I don't know how vaginas work, anon.
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>>76263098
Get a job and you'll find out.
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>>76263153
I have a job. Not one as a gynecologist though.
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>>76259972
Slowdive are overated.
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>>76263032
Try this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwBdKC4EwSs
It's a bit cyberpunk don't you think? I like it but it's generic I guess.
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honestly prefer brown nipples to pink ones
on women of course
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>>76263082
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>>76262432
>pubes
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Aren't summer dresses really pretty? I'm seeing lots of really nice fashion with this weather!
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>>76262714
One boer, one bullet.
>>76262557
I don't see what his idealisation of Gaelic Ireland has to do with his insightful dissection of the role of Britain in the 'hierarchical and inegalitarian' problems of his own time.

>>76261918
> What about the artificial famines
Famines were a frequent consequence of droughts in that region of Russia. Droughts, social conflict between the state and large farmers, and the currency crisis of the 30s convened to create a perfect storm where imports were unavailable to the USSR, despite relief efforts. In a sense, every famine is artificial considering when there is a deficit somewhere, there is always an abundance elsewhere. The famine wasn't intentional and this can be proven from the internal party documentation of the time - dekulakization was never intended to cause mass deaths, even if armed foes were dealt with.

> the purge
Mostly communists were killed, but many of them were hangers-on who had embedded with the party in the aftermath of the revolution. Himmler himself remarked in his diary that if Stalin had not dealt swiftly with Tuchavesky he would not have been able to avoid a military capitulation to the USSR or hold out in 1941. The purges were excessive and many good theorists were killed. The party recognised this problem, though, and Yezhov and many other instigators were killed in course. In spite of this, such occurrences would have been avoidable if the party had retained the intelligence needed to foresee that certain actions would create situations where people would be incentivised to target upstanding comrades for denunciation. We need to take heed of this and work towards cautious legality in future internal party disciplinary procedure in any future project. The monolithic role of the CPSU was borne out of the trials of fire that rocked its creation, there must exist checks and balances and mass democratic participation to instill investment in the revolution by the people, not detached leadership.
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>>76263529
I don't see any because I don't go to populated areas.
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Lot of slags in really revealing clothing out and about when I was coming home this evening.
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>>76263221
Name one better shoegaze band.
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Is this commie lad serious or taking the piss?
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>>76263703
Mbv
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>see attractive women on the street
>become depressed
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>>76263250
Ever been to Rome Luxxy?
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>>76263744
He's seriously taking the piss >:^)
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>>76263703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tRJJW-tCjo

Well I don't think these are better desu, I prefer them but, slowdive are really oldschool shoegaze and a classic. Not really what I'm into. Prefer newer stuff with lots of effects.
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>>76263766
Virtually no one agrees with you. I bet you're just saying that because Kevin Shields is from Dublin or something else equally stupid.
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>>76263776
No,I've only been to northern Italy before,Turin and south Tyrol
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>>76263968
No loveless and Isn't Anything are better then anything slowdive have produced.
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>>76263744
>posting germanic uniforms
Cease immediately.

>>76263776
>>76264053
Rome is a shithole.
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Shut you mouth Juniper or I'll shut it for you by removing your jaw and plastering it back into your face and down your throat you big bender.
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>>76263953
The lowfi sparkle of Slowdive does something for me I can't replicate with more polished modern shoegaze bands like Ringo Deathstarr.

If you're into nipp shoegaze you should check out Kinoko Teikoku and My Dead Girlfriend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33JNwxSNNNY
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>>76263564
But things like the Holodomor were unprecedented events in the Ukraine which was considered a bread basket region and incredibly fertile, the problem was that food was taken away and withheld from the people.
>dekulakization was never intended to cause mass deaths,
>During the winter of 1929 - 1930, almost ten million kulaks -- men, women and children --
were deported to the arctic. These supposedly "rich exploiters" owned around $150 worth of
property. A typical kulak would have something like 12 acres, a cow, a horse, ten sheep, a hog and about 20 chickens on a farm supporting four people.
>Some 100,000 kulaks were shot.
>others sent to work on Baltic-White sea canal
>others die in gulag
>others die on way to gulag
seems bleak
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>>76264123
CARTHAGO DELENDA EST
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>>76264123
>Cease immediately.
No.
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>>76263564
>>76263564
You never hear of Lysenkoism and the Holodomor?
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>>76264123
>Rome is a shithole
That's what I've heard too,the latin class in our school went to Rome once a year and I've been told that it's very dirty,Umbria is supposed to be top-comfy though
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>>76264176
Acknowledged.
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>>76264160
I'm pretty sure in certain regions they redefined a kulak to someone who even just owned a single cow. That lad you're talking to is just an entrenched ideologue.
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>>76264469
kulak would be anyone who owned anything, collectivize and farm snow in siberia or die it seems, though I'm pretty clueless about this sort of stuff so I'm curious to see what /leftypol/ can throw at me
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>>76264176
>no
In that case maybe you should relocate to an Anglo or Germanic thread.
Only Celts are allowed post here.

>>76264219
>very dirty
Was the impression I had upon leaving.

>>76264275
>no clothing
Only confirms my theory that Germanics are responsible for modern social degeneracy.
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>>76264219
I didn't find it that dirty. Maybe I just have low standards because that does seem to be the consensus.
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>>76264114
I like how you leave out mbv, like you know it is a steaming pile of shit typifying everything wrong with MBV. Isn't Anything is a great album but Loveless literally has only two good songs and is the most overrated album of all time. Nearly every Slowdive song is interesting in its own right, you can tell Shields is struggling to come up with fresh ideas in places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uEtSG-xt_s

>>76264160
Again, these aren't intentional deaths, except for the ones who actually fought the Bolsheviks and murdered state deputies, burned crops and cattle, etc.

The reorganisation of an agrarian society into an industrial one was never going to be pretty - it wasn't in the UK either. Also, the representatives of rich farmers' and aristocratic landowners (The SRs) had had no problem sending millions of peasants off to die in WW1 years earlier.

If the kulaks had co-operated with the authorities and not done stupid things like refusing to grow crops because surplus was earmarked for the cities, many more would have survived than did.

If Stalin had not been harsh with the kulaks, they could and would have starved many more millions in the cities for want of payment and crippled the incipient state in its infancy. Terms like a holodomor which victimize people and make it out as a genocide don't recognise the mutual threat of violence which was present.
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>>76264537
>Germanics are responsible for modern social degeneracy
>modern
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>>76264537
>Only Celts are allowed post here.
You say that yet you post a Jap cosplaying as a Slav.
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>>76263769
>see attractive women on the street
>she avoids eye contact
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>>76264578
I'm glad I watched that stream with /éire/.
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>>76264158
Coaltar of the Deepers are the best nipp shoegaze band
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>>76264631
this time is the worst of all
the rest was just a bit o' craic
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>>76264578
Oh God, that's brilliant.

>>76264660
>see attractive woman the street
>she crosses the street and quickens her place after seeing you
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>>76264660
>she smiles at you
>she's just being nice
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Post pics of yourself. I want to see your ugly bakes
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>anime in my thread
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>>76264579
>take their food away to feed city proles
>it's a "stupid thing" to resist

>people want to take away your farm and force you to work on a collectivized one out in the arctic
>wtf why are they killing our deputies we sent to seize their property
but of course you F U N D A M E N T A L L Y disagree with private property so whatever
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>>76264773
sup
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>>76264710
That's a big stein
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>>76264195
Lysenkoism was a failed attempt to grow winter crops that received undue political backing because of the extreme pressure to increase agricultural output to cope with the aforementioned problems. It was wrong completely and showcases the weakness and lack of objectivity in sections of the communist party. Stalin, however, argued in his latter essays that there should be a separation of academia from such severe party influence. We can see the ideological influence of capitalism on plenty of scientific disciplines, such as in the disfavour shown to research into rare and unprofitable diseases, or the lack of optimization of treatments that primarily affect the poor and are eradicated in wealthy areas.
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>>76264579
Mbv is better then all other slowdive albums except for Souvlaki. Loveless is a great album I think it takes more listens to get it, calling it the most overrated album of all time is just being a contrarian.
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>>76264773
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>>76264773
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>>76264631
It was the Germanics (Jews) who invented Communism, Psychology and the nuclear bomb. The three greatest modern crimes against humanity.
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>>76264942
iphone images get IMG_XXXX
nice try though
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>>76264649
>Jap cosplaying as a Slav
Neither of which are as bad as idolising the enemy.
Stop attempting to justify your fetish.
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>>76264649
The Celts haven't existed in these lands for a thousand years because they all moved to eastern Europe, Siberia and Japan. Don't you into history?
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>>76265015
The gender guessing game was more fun before trannies became so widespread.
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>>76265015
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>>76265053
/fa/ as fuck.
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>>76264986
>Stop attempting to justify your fetish.
I'm not trying to justify anything.
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>>76265015
7.5/10 tabicaba el ojalder
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>>76264536

Incorrect.

In May 1929, the Sovnarkom issued a decree that formalised the notion of "kulak household" (кyлaцкoe хoзяйcтвo). Any of the following defined a kulak:[3][12]
use of hired labor
ownership of a mill, a creamery (мacлoбoйня, butter-making rig), other processing equipment, or a complex machine with a mechanical motor
systematic renting out of agricultural equipment or facilities
involvement in trade, money-lending, commercial brokerage, or "other sources of non-labor income".

Small farmers were the intended beneficiaries of dekulakization and were afforded a lot of protection and favour by the state. People didn't lose their farms and get fucked off to the arctic unless they were kulaks or aided and abetted kulaks in their violent resistance of the state implementation of collectivization.
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>>76265080
das rite
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>>76264114
Souvlaki Space Station is the greatest shoegaze song ever m8
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Please stop replying to the commie. His posts are shitting up the thread.
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>>76264820
CPSU was against the exploitation of small peasants (the 'rural' proletariat), not against the ownership of private homes. In fact, most of the small farmers benefited vastly from this arrangement and most of them collectivized voluntarily. It saw the small peasantry as the natural and trustworthy ally of the urban working class.

We share this view as Irish people, especially where our urban working class is small and overly dependent on service employment, which is not a reliable or organic source of productive power. We favour strong action in support of small farmers to re-establish them against the encroaching effect of mechanized large farms owned by corporate interests, which 'proletarianize' farms by reducing the proprietor to a labourer.
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Browsing /fa/ makes me sad because despite being a tryhard when it comes to clothes and appreciating fashion I'm still a loner spaz and it hasn't changed anything.
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>>76265107
So do you acknowledge that you have a fetish for Germanic cultural symbols, such as the uniforms those women are wearing?

>>76265371
>His posts are shitting up the thread
No, those would be your posts.
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>>76265438
>caring about clothes
Are you a collie?
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>>76265371
We're having a discussion, I'm sorry if that triggers you or upsets your scheduled nightly session of shitposting anime and making no attempt at broaching interesting topics.
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>>76265411
>We favour strong action in support of small farmers
So subsidies basically?
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>>76265490
>Are you a collie?
What the fuck does this even mean?
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>>76265371
this
no point arguing eith ideologues
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>>76265490
I wish. God tier breed.
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>>76265445
>So do you acknowledge that you have a fetish for Germanic cultural symbols, such as the uniforms those women are wearing?
Not a fan of your implications desu.

>No, those would be your posts.
Lying is a sin, anon.
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>>76265197
There were Kulaks and sub-kulaks, who weren't a class of their own nor a subdivision of the kulaks but were what Zizek calls a "state of mind", it was the poorer farmers who, for example, attempted to stop the arrests of their kulak neighbours or """""""""collaberated""""""""" with the kulaks and were thus deported or killed alongside them
>People didn't lose their farms and get fucked off to the arctic unless they were kulaks or aided and abetted kulaks in their violent resistance of the state implementation of collectivization.
and how many millions WERE kulaks and got fucked off to the arctic you numpty that's the point, nearly 10 million people between 1929-30 sent off to the arctic after their farms were seized for collectivization.
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>>76265490
why do culchies have such a disdain for being fashionable?
I'm not /fa/ but culchies just have the worst dress sense
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>>76265515
No, re-establishing the relevance of farming internally through central planning and unitary trade options, so that small farmers can re-emerge efficiently and prosper without being dependent on EU grants.
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>>76265590
Meanwhile in Dublin
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>>76265590
It's not really something unique to "culchies".
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Nothing wrong with loving fascist fashion.
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>>76265493
Discussing the "merits" of a fundamentally flawed socio-economic system is hardly what I would consider an "interesting topic".
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>>76265588
I dont think 10 million were carted off the siberia. Most just died because the soldiers would take literally all their harvest. The state implemented massive grain quotas to starve them
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>>76265653
Me on the horse.

Though in all seriousness I think it's an issue with all of Ireland, I imagine the north is bad too.
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>>76265590
>caring about fashion
Bit homosexual.
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>>76265588
10 million is a number you just pulled out of your ass and isn't reflected accurately in most account of deportation patterns of the period. Most of those deported also returned home within a short period of time or found other accommodations.

Arctic is also a misleading word, central Asia or at worst Siberia was the destination of most.
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>>76265635
Can you elaborate further?
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>>76265653
junkies are junkies. Thats like citing travellers when referring to culchies

>>76265670
yeah but its especially prevalent with them. You can pick them out of a crowd with the stuff they all wear
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>>76265689
Not like there's much else on, no use going /marbh/ until someone thinks of something else to discuss.
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>>76265518
Might have meant cailín/coleen?
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>>76265733
caveman
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>>76264993
Provide proof that the Celts were ever in Japan. I know they found Celtic mummies in China
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>>76265882
There is literally nothing wrong with living in a cave.
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>>76265696
Grain was requisitioned from starving farmers - there was a minimum of grain that all farmers were entitled to for their own use, ensuring they would not starve. Anything over this had to be sold (not seized) to the state at fixed prices. The prices may not have been great, but they were reasonable. Wealthy farmers hid grain or refused to produce anything over the allotted limit to cheat the system, and this is why seizures occurred. This escalated into a pattern of hoarding grain, destroying crops and livestock on state farms. They wer totally self-interested in their actions, in an inhumane way. Those sub-kulaks were people who were tied to the kulaks in a dependent way and acted with them, and were a tiny minority of state targets. As I said, it is fact that the majority of small peasants collectivized voluntarily.
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>>76265579
>Not a fan of your implications
Cultural influences that oppose and wish to see Celtic Ireland destroyed must be rooted out and crushed. Your feelings on the matter are not relevant.
There is still time however for you to repent.

>Lying is a sin
The Messiah would never lie ;)
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>>76265828
Eh, I'm shitposting in other threads anyway. I just really hate Commies; willfully ignorant ideologues living in denial.
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>>76265744
>10 million is a number you just pulled out of your ass
it's a number used by conquest

https://www.courses.psu.edu/ukr/ukr100_ojt1/Conquest_famine.pdf

who gets slammed by gommies a lot, they praised his death as well kek

http://www.plp.org/challenge/2015/8/13/robert-conquest-good-riddance.html

his work was subsidized by butthurt hohols so it's not entirely without bias it seems
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>>76265960
>>76265960
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>>76265891
>I know they found Celtic mummies in China
I think they were just Tochrians, an extinct Indo-European people/culture/languge.
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>>76265976
>gael
>celt
Nah. Fuck off.
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>>76265934
>Cultural influences that oppose and wish to see Celtic Ireland destroyed must be rooted out and crushed
Like Communism?

>The Messiah would never lie ;)
False Messiahs would. Just look at Luxembro.
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>>76266027
>>76266027
No westbrits or wannabe's allowed.
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>>76266002
hello nigger
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Neither of those threads are /bant/
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>>76266046
official thread
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>>76266029
>>76266053
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>>76266139
/bant/ is weekend only now. It's the only time of the week that it's feasible.
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Disappointed that you losers always go to /celt/ like the westbrits you are. The fuck is /gael/ even? Plastic paddy cunts. Will heem the lot of ye.
Bet ye want to learn how to speak "gaelic". Probably paid for rosetta stone too. Sad fuckers.
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>>76266199
mmk
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>>76266220
>Probably paid for rosetta stone too
No but I did try Duolingo Irish. Quit again after two days.
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>>76266220
Both code for LARPing
>>76266199
These threads are usually the most dead on Friday and Saturday nights
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Fuck all of you I'm staying here. And then I'll make my own thread that no one else is allowed in.
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>>76266027
>>76266027
>>76266027

Lets not split the general and stick to the real one. LARPers can have their containment version
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>>76266272
>These threads are usually the most dead on Friday and Saturday nights
/éire/ is dead on those nights, but the handful of users who are generally active in the /bant/ threads are usually still around.
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>>76266318
If you want a private chat with one person then take it somewhere else. It makes more sense to have /bant/ on the busier nights, we've had lively /bant/ threads before that didn't descend into private 1 to 1 chats.
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>>76260522
>Okay, you're definitely not welcome or eligible for membership unless you become capable of working on your prejudices. The prevalence of different sexual orientations amoung an organisation members has no bearing on the validity of its political ideas, and this is poor criteria for choosing an organisation to participate in.
Do you know where you are?
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>11pm
>still 27 degrees inside
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>>76266411
There's never more than 10 users in /bant/ threads.
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>>76266496
Considering one of the /bant/ threads showed Junipers IP resetting 4 times in a 2 hour conversation I think it sheds doubt on the number of people we actually have active in /éire/ being much more than that.
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>>76266484
It can't be. I got used to 30+ recently so I don't actually find this weather that bad apart from the oppressive skies.
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>>76266484
Lad I'm fucking dying, I'm entering a state of boredom and heat induced depression

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfrosNvujGw
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>>76265797
The number of Irish farms have decreased and are increasingly agglomerated into large farms where ownership is directed by managers to pay dividends to shareholders, especially in Leinster. This is one of the factors influencing the decay of rural Ireland, and the lack of industrial absorptive capacity means emigration is essentially the only release valve for rural areas. The focus on a 'smart economy' and highly educated labour has also created an overglut where people have to study subjects they have no affinity to in order to gain an opportunity to struggle for jobs with too high a labour supply. Much of these educated jobs are also funneled into a private sector of pharmaceutical and tech companies that highly creative tax arrangements with the government, so we're training people as a society to perform a role with no benefits to society.

The goal of communists here is to re-establish the viability of skilled Labour that doesn't necessarily require advanced tertiary commitments. The defeat of the trade union movement through social partnership has led to traditionally reliable jobs that could see someone pay a mortgage as a bus driver or factory worker vanishing.

We need to retake control of our fisheries, leave the EU, and co-operate farming on a national scale so as to employ (with proprietorship of their land, but integration into a planned economy) huge numbers of people in a competitive national economy that can compete with higher quality products internationally against other countries. Our subjugation to the EU has turned farming into either an artisanal hobby for organic growing or combined farming that dehumanises the individuals involved and has no benefits for the community. Combine this with extensive industrial development and a nationalisation and public funded research with our existing pharmaceutical and academic sectors and you have a combination for an island powerhouse that provides full and fulfilling employment.
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>>76266484
Same.
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>>76266692
I recommend 'Sins of the Father' by Conor McCabe to anyone interested in further reading on the essentially phantomlike immaterial and financial nature of the Irish economy, which provides holding services for international capital instead of real production.

For the communist perspective on this, and how to move forward against it to build an Ireland that works for Ireland, I recommend the pamphlet 'Economy for the Common Good' by the Communist Party which can be got online.
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>>76266782
>I recommend the pamphlet 'Economy for the Common Good' by the Communist Party which can be got online.
>reading anything written by Communists
If I wanted economic fantasy, I'd read Sinn Féin's manifesto.
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>>76266692
I don't share your sentiments, and I think you're an ideologue so it's pointless arguing with you for anything than intellectual leisure but that was a very interesting post. I'll have a look at that literature you recommended.
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