What the Dickens is their god damn problem?

All their problems could have been solved if they let Albania run the show.

I really like Romania, I think it's underrated

>>76230580
This

What problem? No problem whatsoever.

Unless the EU knows something we don't.

http://www.politico.eu/article/juncker-says-trumps-anti-eu-talk-could-lead-to-new-balkan-war/

>>76231237
To be honest I never think of Greece as part of the Balkans for some reason

>>76229155

Lack of British influence

>>76229155
Add hungary

>>76230532
says the beheading spic manlet

>>76231255
Maybe it's because we didn't get involved in the post-Yugoslavian shitshow or weren't a part of the eastern block

>Turkey (Europe)
I just vomited a little in my mouth

>>76229155
outside influence
just let them solve their own problems and don't touch them

sure some ethnicites will become extinct but who cares about muslims

>>76231641
>that moment when the turk is right

Europe fucked up

>>76231678
You're not getting out of this one Diego

>>76231641
Literally no one in real life or online wants anything to do with T*rks.

>>76231742
your whore mother thinks otherwise

>>76231794
Don't speak of white women like that, filthy brown monkey. No women date T*rks. You're India tier on the internet too.

>>76232108
shh, it's alright, it's alright, everything's going to be okay

>>76231525
Still creates butthurt after six centuries
Literally nothing ever compares

>>76232214
Don't speak to your white masters like that, Kurdish scum.

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>>76232108
Could you simplify it down a bit, anon? It's really hot here, I can't concentrate all that well truth be told.

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>>76232214
Anatolia is European

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>>76231815
yeah sure sweetie :^). white women were and are and will always be our slaves to put harems

>>76232666
None of those arrows point to Turkey lol
>I am penis

>>76232666
>northern European women going to med countries

What did they mean by this?

>>76232754
arrows only point distant targets illiterate underage.

>>76233418
The only "females" who go to Turkey are HIV-riddled Russians who'd fuck anything with a pulse and a clear debit card

>>76233452
except russia isn't yellow in there. anyway
believe whatever helps you sleep at night sweetheart :^)

poverty, communism and minor religious differences

>>76229155
the best coastline in Europe desu

>>76229155
>What the Dickens is their god damn problem?

Ruined by Ottaman occupation. Destroyed culture etc, corrupted the DNA pool, permanently messed everything up.

i like feet in nylons mmm

>>76231742
This

Mediterranean cultural conservatism over ordnung and money. Also, the Ottoman occupation which only recently ended but for some reason is being forgotten/rerun.

>>76229155
I think this map is a bit unfair. Croatia and Slovenia don't belong in the Balkans, they're actually civilized.

In order to fix this shitshow, all you have to do is nuke Belgrade and Bucharest a couple of times. Just to make sure S*rbs and R*manians live in the stone age, and they get the message to they stay there, and stop trying to contact the rest of Europe.

>>76237676
Too bad you are mostly Turkish

>>76232980
Greece is the most sexually active country in the world :^)

>>76237820
I'm sorry, didn't realize this was still 200BC.

>>76238106
Just 0.05 less that yours apparently.

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>>76232666
>tfw no nordic female sex tourist to fugg you

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>>76237676

>>76229155
>Turkey (((EUROPE)))

>>76229155

well, you ottolovers had much to do with putting your dick in our affairs fuckingover the region for starters

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>>76232270
>>76232108

>>76237108
mmm me too, brother

>>76232666
> tfw living in a red country, but being too afraid of women's sexuality to get qt American sex-starved gf

>>76238549
I highly doubt Croats were ever Serbs but i still think that Ustashe were bloodthirsty sadists
But when dealing with Serbs that is maybe the only option for survival,otherwise they'd risk ending up same as Bosniaks

>>76239061
>I highly doubt Croats were ever Serbs
they were, most of them

>otherwise they'd risk ending up same as Bosniaks
bullshit, many ex-serbs (croats) fought with serbs against occupator, they had even one chetnik battalion

>>76229155
Transylvania is not Balkan

>>76230580
It's a shithole noncountry, it shouldn't even exist in the first place
All the good parts are in Transylvania

>>76239280
1526 - 1688, my bro. 1526 - 1688.

>>76231742
The same can be said about you and your fellow Pakistani shitskins.

>>76231815
The fuck would you know about being white? England is nothing but shitskins and inbred cunts who are part of families who were too poor to flee the island to the new world. Even your royalty is inbred to the core.

No one from the UK has any groups for arrogance. It's a failed project of old world values draped in new world poverty.

>>76239347
Transylvania was independent during that period

>>76239277
How is that possible if Croatia existed before Serbia you dumb turk

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>>76239406

>>76239293
why do you say that, what's so shit about it

>>76239519
Are you not familiar with the concept of trade?

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>>76239450
>croatian education

>>76239595
Everything, it's like every other balkan shithole
Bulgaria looks exactly the same, only with cyrillic

>>76239277
>they were, most of them
some serbs unironically believe this

>>76239707
and there you have your answer OP >>76229155

>>76239061
>>76238549
Everybody shut the fuck up about Ustashe. They are a reaction to our peoples torture in first Yugoslavia
Just a few of many serbian crimes upon Croatian nation:

>prosinac 1918. – Prosinačke žrtve, pokolj nad Hrvatima usred Zagreba
>veljača 1925. – Stajničke žrtve
>lipanj 1928. – atentat na pet hrvatskih zastupnika u Beogradu
>veljača 1931. – atentat na Milana Šufflaya
>veljača 1935. – Sibinjske žrtve
>listopad 1935.- Žitničke žrtve
>svibanj 1937. – Senjske žrtve
>8. – 10. travnja 1941., srpska vojska radi pokolj nad Hrvatima u selima oko Bjelovara. U travnju te godine, na istom području, Srbi ubijaju oko 300 Hrvata, prije ijedne srpske žrtve u NDH!

And dont get me started about economical, language etc. represion as well

Long live the NDH and Croatian Freedom Fighters

>>76231336
t.urk

>>76239707
there's a thing about the language you speak, but i won't go further

>>76238549
Even if that is true, Austria was the best thing to happen to Croatians
Serbs are backwards savages

>>76239855
lmao, what a pile of crap
die ustasha scum

>>76239953
What thing? Our similar language is a result of Illyrian panslavic movements in 19 century. And Croatian politicians were strongly in reforming the Croatian language into Štokavian so we could form our south slavic country with you
but I guess thats all "le serbian xDD" for undeducated serbs like you

We trusted you serbs, and you betrayed us falsify claiming unity and brotherhood for your own bloodthirsty, nationalistic ideas

>>76240025
>And Croatian politicians were strongly in reforming the Croatian language into Štokavian so we could form our south slavic country with you
not true, they chose Shtokavian because majority of people already spoke it in croatia. they didn't have to reform and force anything

>>76240050
The first idea of Illyrian movement was Kajkavian, but they decided to take Štokavian because they wanted to form an independent slavic country with you guys
but yes, also Štokavian was already spoken on large parts of Croatian land, so what? Štokavian=/=Serbian
Get your heads out of Karadzics ass

>>76240165
Not only Croatia, but Bosnia that was now under AU Empire as well
Kajkavian was simply too small for all these areas

>>76239668
This. Wallachia is Balkan and Moldova is Eastern Yurop. I will never understand why this country exists and it's not just outer regions of our neighbours.

>>76240165
>The first idea of Illyrian movement was Kajkavian, but they decided to take Štokavian because they wanted to form an independent slavic country with you guys
even if they didn't want to form with us a country they would choose shtokavian in the end, it's illogical to chose any other when shtokavian was dominant dialect

>>76232666
>be our slaves to put harems
The harems of the empire your revolted and got independence from from?

>>76239595
It's a hungarian who's trying really hard to copy Ikibey. Don't pay attention to him.

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>>76240646
It's the truth
Regățean gelos

nationalism
slavism

non nations suddenly going WE WUZ KANGZ and shit so they all believe they are some ancient civilization destined to rule at least half the region while being good for nothing gypsies

>>76240327
Not really, central and most densely populated northern Croatia were Kajkavian and coast was Chakavian.
Whole point of Illyrianism was to unite Yugoslavs under one country, but of course you chimps had to ruin it.

>>76240753
>coast was Chakavian
chakavian is only spoken on islands and in istria, shtokavian already dominated on coasts. the situation was similar like it is now, but chakavian is dying off by the time

>>76240841
Today, it was used on whole coast except Dubrovnik, and besides Slavonians, Dalmatians and Croats from Herzegovina and inner Dalmatia speak or used to speak Ikavian

>>76240958
>Today
and in time they had to decide which dialect to choose
before ottoman invasion and migrations that followed it, majority of the coast spoke chakavian. but after such events occurred, shtokavian speaking people pushed the ones who spoke chakavian further north and west (on islands), thus creating such situation

>>76240958
>Ikavian
that's a mix of chakavain and shtokavian

>>76241037
>Shtokavian speaking people pushed the ones who spoke chakavian further north and west
And when did that happen besides in history books by SANU? Serbs settled in areas that were desolated by turkish raids.
Later even these places were resettled with Croats, Czechs, Germans and others.
>>76241086
Ikavian division has nothing to do with chakavia and shtokavian, Dalmatians spkoe Ikavian and chakavian, Slavonians spoke ikavian and shtokavian

>>76241166
>And when did that happen besides in history books by SANU?
many people from inner bosnia migrated to coast and that weren't just serbs. they migrated to much they left near the half of bosnia empty. there were even migrations led by bishops and patriarchs

>Ikavian division has nothing to do with chakavia and shtokavian
ikavian belongs to southern chakavian group, and it's specifically mentioned that it carried both characteristics from shtokavian and chakavian, with the first one being more dominant factor

>>76241295
>ikavian belongs to southern chakavian group
correction, ikavian IS a synonym for southern chakavian subdialect

it had more chakavian characteristics until influx of shtokavian speaking people on the lands where it is spoken

>>76229155
west balkans is full of faggots east balkans full of subhumans (except bulgarians)

>>76241295
These migrations that scattered Ikavian speakers were from Banovina, Lika, Kordun places later settled by Serbs or Northwest Bosnia settled by muslims.
Bosnian Croats or Catholics migrated mostly to Dalmatian hinterlands or were assimilated in local population.
Dalmatian coast was at the beginning of last century fully chakavian.
>>76241403
You are missing the point, Serbs are ekavian and štokavian for example, ikavian is accent while čakavian is dialect.

>>76241539
why the fuck do you autists have such shitty names for your dialects

>>76241563
Dialectal words for "what", ča, šta/što, kaj

>>76241621
so my dialect would be called kakvokavian? absolutely autistic xaxax

>>76239382
How did a Turk make his way to Australia? I thought the immigration laws there were pretty tight.

>>76241539
>These migrations that scattered Ikavian speakers were from Banovina, Lika, Kordun
Correction meant to say "Čakavian speakers" not "Ikavian speakers"

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>>76241539
>Dalmatian coast was at the beginning of last century fully chakavian.
it was, but before migrations in 16th century

>>76241737
all of that red is a bulgarian dialect

>>76241772
it's a mix of serbian and bulgarian
now it's only spoken in eastern serbia

>>76241809
maybe now it's a mix but historically speakers of the torlak dialect were bulgarians and considered themselves bulgarians

>>76241830
torlakian dialect is a continuum between serbian and bulgarian, it always was because it's spoken in areas where both serbs and bulgarians lived

>>76241737
I cant find many examples, but here is Čakavian from split, Zadar, Šibenik too and nearly all major towns were chakavian until mass media and greater standards of education.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mlvoIjBNNE
Čakavian from Split

>>76241855
its literally a bulgarian dialect

and the speakers had a bulgarian self identification

>>76241926
sounds nice, too bad it was along with kajkavian abandoned in favor of shtokavian and because of that both are now dying off and being completely dominated and replaced by shtokavian
i know, we fucked up many things and that's only one of them...

>>76241996
>bulgarian education
no it wasn't, and no they didn't. only in today eastern serbia where it is still spoken there are people who identify as shops/bulgars

>>76242050
>no it wasn't, and no they didn't.
they did you dumb bitch you dont know what the fuck youre talking about

read some shit dont listen to what your teachers tell you

you faggots always label everything as serb even though it has nothing to do with your faggy-ass rat nation

>>76242164
nice damage control

>>76242164
he is right though, I always considered Bulgaria to be just Eastern Serbia

Bulgarian as a nationality doesn't really exist

>>76242186
when bulgaria had an empire serbs were still living in mud huts and eating their own shit to survive

>>76242186
Says the muslim shithole with croats and serbs in it.

>>76242245

still buttblasted about bw2, tatar? :^) nobody cares about your meme empires, we literally fucked your ass so much that you bleed to this day as far as i can see kek

>>76242281
whose ass did you fuck
as far as i remember in the serbo-bulgarian war we fucked you so hard austria had to step in to stop us from annihilating you
then in balkan war 1 us and greeks did most of the fighting while you didnt do shit
and in bw2 we were fucking your asses even with a divided army until romanians took our capital

and then in ww1 we fucked your asses too, we killed thousands of serbs, and so did everyone else, same thing in ww2

serbs are weird creatures, you get raped in the ass and call it a victory

>>76242331
and here we are today, we still exist and you lost parts of your land thanks to us
i can sense the reason why tatars are still, even after a whole century assblasted because of the sole reason we still exist to make them this salty kek
and i enjoy in drinking tatar tears :^)

>>76242397
soon the day will come when we'll kill all you serbian rats and we wont half-ass it like last time bitch

>>76242397
>Take a shit
>Try to flush the toilet
>Shit doesn't go down
>Shit proceeds to say "Lol I'm still here I bet you are angry"
>Serbia is actually shit

>>76242457
>tatar fantasies

>>76242477
vojvodina will be never again hungarian, magyar :^)

>>76242457
>>76242477
t. gypsylanders

>>76242510
i suppose both are gypsies larping as ethnic tatars and bozgors since turkgaria and hungaria are both gypsy shitholes kek

>>76242510
where does a muslim cocksucking slut get the balls to speak back to a bulgarian

learn your place you little pussy

>>76242542
Cry some more.
Americans should have elected a second Clinton for a second bombing of Belgrade

>>76242646
>that projections
oh i'm laffin'

trianon best day of my life :^)

>>76242646
The Servs keep a huge Russian intelligence HQ in Nish, which they call a "humanitarian center." The chance of them being bombed again is non-zero.

>>76242281
wasn't 1/3 of your pop killed in ww1?

sounds like the bulgar had his revenge

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>this thread

>>76242747
>this post
>this flag

>>76242745
>tatar delusions

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>tfw Russians will take over Balkans in your lifetime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm838iEzyTM

>>76242554
Nah,that's most likely a Bosnian Serb
But yeah,i understand why you're pissed at Serbs-they stole Macedonia and brainwashed it's people to the point of sheer atrocity plus on top of that they've attacked you in 1885 if i'm correct

>>76229155
>Slovenia and Croatia
Righteous Italian clay
>Bosnia
Righteous Croatian and Serbian clay
>Montenegro
???
>Albania
???
>Romania
Righteous Hungarian clay.
>Bulgaria
Righteous Turkish clay.
>Greece
Righteous German clay.
>Turkey
Righteous Greek clay.

>>76242823
theyre just cuckolds in general

>>76232666
>Cambodia
>Red
Shit map. Sex-crazed "white" wimminz go for big cocks, not our peckers.
Gambia is not even featured here.

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>>76241737
is blue venetian?

>>76242919
>netherlands
righteous moroccan and syrian clay

>>76229155
Slovenia seems nice.

>my history is more accurate than yours the thread

This is why no one likes the Balkans, everyone tries too hard to seem innocent yet cool and edgy while making others look like shit and blame your failures on them. If the Balkans are ever going to look respectable, then people are going to have to start looking at each other as individuals.

>>76242958
"slobenia" is not part of the balkans, "slobenians" are not even slavs

>>76242923
meanwhile you got cucked out of macedonia lmao

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>>76243016
Ok. It's indicated on the map.
>not Slavs
I wish this were true, friend. If not for my Slovenian grandmother, I would be free of this cursed Slav blood.

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>>76242983
>ancient serbs fought a war with Atlantis
yes, my bosnian friend, all history in Balkans is invented!

>>76243127
>an undercover slav is speaking

>>76242983
But in all honesty now-Serbs alone are responsible for at least 60% of all Balkan troubles

>>76243094
I'm sure that your grandmother is a great woman :3

>>76243152
>Slovenia
but it was your fault that Yugoslavia fell apart

>>76243093
a good amount of serbs were genocided because of that so it makes up for it a little bit

>>76242983
honestly it's just serbs who have a conflicting version of history with literally everyone around them

>>76243213
nah, many died while being in army and bravely defending their lands

>>76243211
Slovenia only minded it's own business and wanted independence

>>76243241
again
>that flag
>that post

>>76243255
yes, like the jews you are

>>76243242
those brave men who were defending their lands were running away to albania when we were genociding serblets

>>76243142
this is the reason why everyone is against the Serbs, it's because they are biblical nation, same as Jews. Israel and Serbia are countries chosen by God

Jesus Christ himself spoke Aramaic which is in fact just old Serbian language

>>76243242
>bravely defending their lands
In the Albanian mountains.

>>76243270
But seriously what is it with this bullshit that Slovenia broke down Yugoslavia?
Like seriously wtf?
Slovenia just wanted to be independent and to finally do it's own thing,it didn't even care about Yugoslavia or anything

>>76243317
then you genocided them wrong. they are still there??

>>76243328
yes, because they were being attacked from all sides. 200k of them died while retreating through there although they knew it gonna fuck up them hard

>>76243355
that's you, you didn't care if it's going collapse or not
although that same yugoslavia made you a country

>>76243328
I have some ancestors from a village that are part of some bulgarians claim are western provinces and they never thought of themselves as Bulgarians. Not all torlaks were Bulgarians, get over it.

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>yugoslavia made you a country
wat

>>76243499
anecdotal evidence ain't worth shit

>>76243529
if it wasn't for yugoslavia, you would be an austrian province today

>>76243499
you can't argue with a tatar

they're delusional to their core

>>76243531
Meanwhile you have no evidence.

>>76243602
>Literature written in Torlakian is rather sparse as the dialect has never been an official state language. During the Ottoman rule literacy in the region was limited to Eastern Orthodox clergy, who chiefly used Old Church Slavonic in writing. The first known literary document influenced by Torlakian[16] dialects is the Manuscript from Temska Monastery from 1762, in which its author, the Monk Kiril Zhivkovich from Pirot, considered his language "simple Bulgarian".[17]

Kiril Zhivovich was a Serb.

>Until the early 20th century, ethnic Macedonians, Torlaks and Slavic-speakers of Greek Macedonia usually self-identified as Bulgarians.
>The ethnic Macedonians were considered Macedonian Bulgarians by most ethnographers until the early 20th century and beyond with a big portion of them evidently self-identifying as such.[137][138] The Slavic-speakers of Greek Macedonia and most among the Torlaks in Serbia have also had a history of identifying as Bulgarians and many were members of the Bulgarian Exarchate, which included most of the territory regarded as Torlak. The greater part of these people were also considered Bulgarians by most ethnographers until the early 20th century and beyond.[139][140][141][142]

>>76243154
She is, and she makes great potica :)

>>76243552
I get the impression that some of them would prefer that.

>>76243788
but you fail to cite this

>The Torlaks are also sometimes classified as part of the Shopi population and vice versa. In the 19th century, there was no exact border between Torlak and Shopi settlements. According to some authors during the Ottoman rule, the majority of the Torlakian population did not have national consciousness in ethnic sense.

really makes me think why...

>>76243788
>a monk is more credible than linguist experts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torlakian_dialect#Features_shared_with_Western_South_Slavic

>>76243788
>the Monk Kiril Zhivkovich from Pirot, considered his language "simple Bulgarian".[17]

>Kiril Zhivovich was a Serb.

Monks wrote in that old church language that was sometimes called Bulgarian which was different to regular language spoke by peasants. Generally the first passage you cited has more to speak about the relation of church and official languages used for scriptures than about common people.

>The greater part of these people were also considered Bulgarians by most ethnographers until the early 20th century and beyond.[139][140][141][142]

Told you that not all torlaks were Bulgarians, I never claimed that there were never bulgarian torlak speakers, also the map which sparked the discussion is contradictory between the filename and its contents, because Torlak is, as the other guys said, just a continuum between our languages because no one standardized it. Also, under torlak fall many local dialects some of which are more like serbian, and some more like bulgarian.

>>76244080
no sources on this whatsoever

>>76244167
lmfao retard that's minor shit compared to its similarities with bulgarian

>>76244294
>that damage control
never change, tatars
and keep being buttblasted when you face the facts :^)

>>76244359
you faced the facts and you fell silent, little serblet

>>76244403
i literally showed you counter-arguments tor "torlakian is bulgarian" and "torlaks were bulgarians", and you still keep ignoring them and denying them like the little delusional tatar you are kek

>>76244403
>serblet
>meanwhile his country's average height is the same as the turks

lmaoing familia

>>76229155
It's full of turkoslavic mutts.

>>76244470
tatars are known for having delusions of grandeur, as demonstrated in this thread

>>76244455
torlakian is bulgarian

>definite article
>no cases
>balcan sprachbund

nuff said

especially going by serb logic where kajkavian=slovene, chakavian=croat, shtokavian=serb, that makes torlakian = bulgar

>>76244560
there's a big difference between torlakian and kajkavian, torlakian was never standardized and it had many dialects who were classified under it which are either closer to serbian or bulgarian
so you can't put it in either group

>>76244470
>>76244547
how is it delusions when we're physically and intellectually superior to you

the greatest wrestlers in the world have been bulgarian many time, and same with weightlifters

look at bulgaria, it has more sports medals than all of yugoslavia combined

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>>76232666
>he thinks tourists go to Mediterranean countries to meet the locals

>>76244642
>tatar delusions

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>>76244628

>>76244686
you see in that image that there are differences between torlakian dialects even in the vocabulary which vary from serbian to bulgarian form

>>76244657
total olympic medals for bulgaria - 223
total olympic medals for serbia - 15
total olympic medals for yugoslavia - 87

>>76244737
kek you can obviously see they're more bulgarian

of course they'd have some serblet influence since theyre mainly in serbia but they are bulgarian, and considered themselves as such

>tfw Fiki will reclaim our rightful clay in Kosovo

https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Кyлтypнo-пpocвeтнo_дpyжecтвo_нa_бългapитe_в_Жyпa_„Бългapcки_мoхaмeдaни“

>>76244772
>>76244657

>>76244746
i would rather have 15+87 medals from major sports, than 223 for totally irrelevant ones

quantity != quality

>>76243552
That's preferable to being subjugated by serbs

>>76244851
more like liberated :^)

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>>76244811
lmfao get dominated you fucking beta serblet

>>76245029
>only good at wrestling and weightlifting
>proud of that

lmaooooo

>>76245029
>listing literally non-sports like weightlifting
kek

>>76245096
>>76245099
still better than you in athletics, boxing, shooting and every other sport mentioned in there

>>76245099
>>76245096
who would win in a fight
a beta serblet gymnast or a bulgarian wrestler

>>76245029
>>76245096
>water polo
top kek

>>76245132
keep in mind that this is the entire yugoslavia, not just serbia

>>76245099
t. manlet

>>76245029
Literally who cares, Bulgaria is still a gigantic shithole

>>76245225
>coming from a romanian flag

>>76245241
I am Transylvanian
I don't feel the need to justify my existence with the achievements of others

>>76245132
still if you remove all those non-sports there's not a big difference
only two sports where you excel are wrestling and weightlifting, for all other sports you got average number of medals when compared to the rest of the world

When my kids ask what started the third Balkan War, I'll point to this thread and laugh.

>>76242331
That's a lot of homosexual analogies for one paragraph

>>76245498
batkas (i.e. masculine tatars) are known to be closet faggots, so nothing strange kek
but good job for analysis, somehow i missed that detail

>>76245601
yeah tell a batka he's a closet faggot face to face and then come update me on how your bones are healing

>>76240721
kek

>>76242477
Lol

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>>76243093
>we won

>>76245991
at least we didn't stab our allies and flip-flopped before the end of the war

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>no srbosjeks

meh

Austro-Hungarian empire should come back. It would be better for everyone.

>>76246994
no it wouldnt

>>76247013
yes it would

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>this thread

>>76247951
what? it's an average /balk/ thread

>>76247951
If you're ever bored ask about the Balkans and add some keywords like yugoslavia, balkan wars, ottoman empire, 4th crusade, and enjoy the chimpout

>>76238549

I am sure Croats have been Catholic at least ever since that land was a part of Hungary in the middle ages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Zara

>>76249391
the Croats have been catholics since forever, nobody here in balkans actaully listens so Serbs

>>76251318
you mean, the serbs who lived in today croatia