Fuck you.

German posters are the most autistic on this board by miles, haven't met a single decent one to be honest

>>76188056
Australia - the land untainted by intellect

>>76188239
fuck off dazu

>>76188239
Why are you defending the people who want to "punish" Britain for brexit?

>>76188311
>Kuzukuzu
>British

>>76188352
I'm British in my heart

>>76188311
It's not punishing, you can't just leave without paying for the things you used.

It's like a bloke drinking 10 beers with you and saying: well I leave ,the bill not my responsibility anymore.

>>76188311
We don't want to punish Brits because we hate them, we want to punish them because we want to keep others from leaving. Brits knew that when they voted for Brexit.

>>76188428
UK was a net contributor to every single EU fund for literal decades, now you want them to pay even more billions for no reason.

>>76188056

look who is posting, the eternal KANGaroo fucker.

>>76188428
>a Dutchman accusing someone else of being a tightarse

Interesting

>>76188056
yo why do you have to be so mean? stop bullying

>>76188428
We already paid for everything and then some you dumb clognigger

>>76188056
jelly of our mosques, cunt?

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>>76188428
>It's like a bloke drinking 10 beers with you and saying: well I leave ,the bill not my responsibility anymore.
What if he paid for 1 beer at a time?

>>76188455
Just let people leave when they want to. Fuck off.

>>76188479
Doesn't matter, you have to pay for the farming projects and administration and the parliamentary workers that have a contract.

>>76188491
We do pay what we owe the other member states, you didn't and now you have to pay in one go.

>>76188503
Theoretically, yes. But in practice no.

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>>76188056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtXAbT2iLD4
gib abo

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>>76188757
>VW

>>76188311
they deserve it and more tbqh

Gott strafe England

>>76188654
There's no "theoretically" you lying twat. We were by far the biggest net contributors to the EEC, ahead of even Italy and we've consistently been one of the largest net contributors to the EU budget right from the beginning in 1991. We'd likely still be the largest net contributor ahead of Germany without the rebate slightly easing the pain so go ahead and shove it up your rectum.

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>>76188056
Fuck you.

FUCK GERMANY

>>76189019
Doesn't matter what you paid. Britain already signed up for some projects and received a lot of farming subsidies that were meant for products for the EU-market. Also a lot of people that were hired for the British EU parliamentary workers need to be paid off. We also have to move some EU buildings to mainland. And that costs a lot.

If you sign up for a phone subscription you can't just cancel it with the argument that you haven't used it yet. You have to pay it.

>>76189195
>farming subsidies that were meant for products for the EU-market.
They can still go to the EU, that however will be the last farming subsidies the UK is taking from EU.

EU refuses to acknowledge the act of god; 'force majeure'

Such an arrogant and insolent people, despite fucking shit up for the entire continent every time they get the chance. Fucking hate germs.

>>76188239
kek
>>76188174
i wouldnt be surprised if all the good ones were driven off from the hate
if there's any good ones left they're prob on /deutsch/ or whatever the fuck their general is called or on /b/

>>76189255
Not if Britain leaves the EU single market. And there is no difference in paying in Euros or paying in goods. It's still the same amount of worth.

>>76188455
>implying the average brit knows anything when voting

>>76189339
>i wouldnt be surprised if all the good ones were driven off from the hate
driven off from the hate? every single fucking alt right numale on this shitty board adores germany for some reason
objectively countries like america, poland, romania and even britain get way more hate than them

you're either delusional or a german tourist/proxy

>>76189365
>Not if Britain leaves the EU single market.
The EU (Germany) is not bargaining in good faith.

They know the remaining contracts and trades can still proceed but EU (Germany) is slowing and exacerbating and endangering the process.

>>76189462
That's not the point, the EU spends money 4 years in advance. That's why Britain has to pay membership for 2019 till 2023. And that is 85-113billion euros.
And most of that money will go to British farming subsidies either way.

hello

>>76189554
>The EU (Germany) is not bargaining in good faith.
>That's not the point
>farming subsidies
If they don't want farming subsidies after 2020 or whatever EU can't force them.

Especially when you consider there are parts of EU not in danger, viable replacement options. Thats what I mean by not bargaining in good faith.

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>>76188056

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtXAbT2iLD4

Protip: The UK will remain a part of the European Free Trade Zone and stay connected to the EU and its silly programs simply because the UK, Germany and France would lose a lot of money otherwise.

Brit politicians will tell their people they showed the bureaucrats in Brussels and EU politicians will tell their people they showed those unruly islanders. In reality not much will change.

>>76189666
They don't have a choice, they already signed agreements for it.

>another Anglo calling for German extermination
Who are the real Nazis?! Huh?!

>>76189715
>They don't have a choice, they already signed agreements for it.
English, French all European common law has ways and means for them to exit contracts.

Thats why EU is stalling, this could be done sooner rather than later.

>>76189774
You can't exit that agreement, the farmers receive the subsidies of 2023 in 2019.

>>76189886
German lapdog. Your grandfather would should himself if he could see what you're doing.
Your entire country is one big, degenerated shithole.

>>76189886
>You can't exit that agreement, the farmers receive the subsidies of 2023 in 2019.
Then in 2024 they are done.

Its not that far and EU wants to extend UK's obligations, when they don't want to to business anymore. Its really that simple.

>>76189965

You can't receive things and not pay for it. Maybe it's different because you all have criminal genes in your desert island.

>>76190000
Yes, that's why they need to pay untill 2023. That's the so called """fine""". But it's just money that's already spent on the UK in advance.

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>>76190073
>You can't receive things and not pay for it.
>But you can give things without payment first.
>EU Economics

>>76190117
That's what credit is all about, anon

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>>76190199
>That's what credit is all about
You can cancel an order from Amazon at any point.

Of course Amazon doesnt give you the product up front and then hold you hostage when you ask them to conduct normal business tactics.

>>76190117
It's because money is worth more now than over 4 years. By spending it in advance the EU can spend more money than it actually receives by loaning it to itself.

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>>76190246
>By spending it in advance the EU can spend more money than it actually receives by loaning it to itself.
>Spend all my money plus more than I have now... Because in my future it will be worth shit.
>EU Economics

>>76190233
Don't start acting stupid because you forgot that credits where a thing in modern economics

>>76190296
Your government does it all the time. But i a single government can't loan from itself and a collective of governments can.

>>76190305
>because you forgot that credits where a thing
EU forgot that countries were still a thing and they can farm from any of their other wide variety of domains.

>>76190353
It's not about the fucking farmland. It's because the EU already invested in that fucking farmland in advance.

>>76189443
Are you dumb or blind?
Germany is one of the most hated cunts on 4chinz. Even /pol/ hates it by now.

>>76190409
No, you just have a cognitive bias, since threads about Germany make you personally mad and you remember them.
From an objective viewer's perspective, I can tell you that Germany doesn't get a FRACTION of the hate some other countries on here get. Fuck off.

>>76190379
>the EU already invested in that fucking farmland in advance.
There are a variety of options for EU to move to. They just aren't moving in any direction. Just complaining.

>>76188056
Germans ruined Europe.

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>>76188455
*Knock Knock*

>>76190500
That has nothing to do with it.

The EU gave the UK farming subsidies 4 years in advance so the UK has to pay those back in a single go or keep paying for 4 years without getting any farming subsidies.

>>76190581
How does money transfer between countries work anyway? Back in the day they would just send a few chests full of gold, but I imagine that's not how things are done anymore.

>>76190632
Digitally, some blokes just put numbers in a computer and another bloke receives those numbers and can send it to any bloke they want.

>>76190581
>The EU gave the UK farming subsidies 4 years in advance
So you get those 4 years of business. EU doesn't want to stop investing, UK doesnt want EU futures anymore.

>>76190675
Thanks.

>>76190683
There aren't any 4 years of business, the money is already used. Once they leave there is only a bill left with roughly 100billion euros on it.

>>76190453
Other countries don't get 10 new le funny meme edit pics per week to mock them, get called out for literally everything or get several country extermination and mass genocide threats from literally everyone.
The only ones that have it worse in that way are USA, Albanians and Turkey.

>>76190233
The Amazon has millions of consumers anonymous to each other worldwide, any losses from cancelling preorders is mitigated by the majority of others who don't do it. It's different from this select group of countries where the UK was a major power in, this kind of action can have dire consequences for the block. Don't play dumb and blame the EU for playing their hand right in this situation, I doubt the UK would've done anything different if the situation was reverted between them and Germany.

>>76190769
At least we have the decency to pretend we're still friends. If Brits were in our position they'd turn up their propaganda machine again and hang Krauts in the streets.

>>76190744
>Once they leave there is only a bill left with roughly 100billion euros on it.
So the EU is refusing to take the products its invested in to spite itself.

Again, EU is refusing service. Not the UK. The UK is asking for a new round of terms, for future service.

>>76190769
>this kind of action can have dire consequences for the block. Don't play dumb and blame
Like EU refusing servicing and not bargaining in good faith?

Any clear minded person can see whats happened.

>>76190760
Mhm, you have clearly never seen le funny paint pictures about the Brits, Poles, France and Serbia.
Oh wait, you did, you just don't want to acknowledge them because you're such a poor victim and everybody hates you :(

By the way, thanks for proving my point with the autism by taking "genocide" posts seriously. You're a special brand of stupid.

>>76190848
No we invested in products with money that the UK was supposed to pay in 2023. The UK already sold those products.

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>>76188455
>we want to punish them because we want to keep others from leaving.

>>76190926
>UK was supposed to pay in 2023
But the EU wont even accept or hear and agreement to the solution. Of which could include that.

>>76190872
You know what? I would try to defend my point but I can't because I have no arguments. You win.
Thanks for clearing my worldview a bit.

>>76188239
"Krikey I found a wild animal *bang bang bang* well that's the last intelligence to pollute our great land."

>>76190848
If you just don't pay your credit card bill because you don't have the money or whatever, would you expect them to come to you and "bargain in good faith" while not blocking you from buying shit with it? Why would any unilateral decision taken by a country in a multilateral agreement against said multilateral agreement have no repercussions? This is basic diplomacy and geopolitics.

>>76188814
There is nothing wrong with VW's

>>76191003
There is no agreement to make.

The EU gave the UK farmers roughly 100billion euros.

The Farmers made products with that money.

The UK sold those products.

And 4 years later the UK was supposed to pay back the 100 billion euros.

But since the UK won't be in the EU in 2023 they have pay for it before they leave.

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>>76191102
>your credit card bill
My credit card company never refuses money from me. Even when I'm closing my account.

>>76191157
>The UK sold those products.
>And 4 years later the UK was supposed to pay back the 100 billion euros.
So European socialist economics are have literally crippled it.

What is the UK paying back? EU invested in farmers, farmers brought your products to market. The deal is done.

>>76191160
They don't, but they still charge you for what you owe them. It's not so easy to close your account if you don't pay what they think they should get from you.

Thanks for ignoring the actual argument btw.

>>76190848
You have no idea how EU membership works, stop being the typical American and don't talk about things you have no idea about.

>>76191254
They didn't bring any fucking products dipshit, they sold the products.

The UK bought products with money from the EU.

Then sold the products to the EU.

And 4 years later they have to pay back the money with which they bought the products.

>>76191254
>leasing is socialism
Why do I even bother replying to Americans

>>76191311
>>76191367
>They don't, but they still charge you for what you owe them
Except the UK doesn't owe anything.

>>76191337
>The UK bought products with money from the EU.
>Then sold the products to the EU.
>And 4 years later they have to pay back the money with which they bought the products.
You're confusing subsidies with rebates. EU made investments and got commerce. Any clear minded person can see that.

>>76191316
>You have no idea how EU membership works
It doesn't, that why Germany isn't negotiating in good faith.

>>76191474
They didn't fucking build farms. Farming subsidies don't actually go to a farm. Farming subsidies make products cheaper.

A farmer makes 100 apples which cost him €200 to make.

The EU then gives the farmer €100.

The farmer then sells the apples for €100.

And four years later the UK gives the EU €100

>>76191586
>The EU then gives the farmer €100.
>And four years later the UK gives the EU €100
In the real world thats called duress.

>>76191693
No it's a fucking farming subsidie.

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>>76191723
>Take this 100 euroskelels
>TAKE IT OR DIE
>Now... Pay me back in 4 years.

>>76191760
The Dutch Anon clearly won, no need to keep embarassing yourself to save face, just walk out and pretend this discussion never happened.

>>76191760
All countries do it. How do you think you are able to buy products with "made in America" on it? If you actually paid for the actual price it would be trice as expensive.

But the advantage of the EU giving out the farming subsidie is that you can loan from your future self instead of a different country. Because the EU has no need to make a profit.

>>76191796
>The Dutch Anon clearly won
>>76191836
>you can loan from your future self instead of a different country.
Its clear you can't loan to yourself with a time machine, thats why EU is so desperate.

Shitty economics catching up.

>>76191900
But you can loan from the EU. That's one of the reasons why countries became part of the EU. The EU makes it possible to loan from yourself.

>>76191955
>The EU makes it possible to loan from yourself.
But it really didnt. That was a fantasy.

It's very much in the UK's interest to keep its promises it has already made, payments it has already agreed to and accords it has signed.

Considering that they are about to enter a stage where they have to negociated a whole bunch of new trade agreements, any sign of the UK being not a trustworthy contractural partner would damage their international reputation and weaken their negociating power in the future.

>>76191984
It's not a fucking fantasy. Why else did you think countries are willing to pay billions of euros per year.

I give you a hint it's not because they want to form a stupid united bloc.

It's just that stupid populist parties don't know how the fucking EU works. We aren't in it because we want to help each others. We are in it to profit from it.

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>>76192004
>any sign of the UK being not a trustworthy contractural partner would damage their international reputation and weaken their negociating power in the future
Germany has already done that to itself, UK separate from EU is giving it more credibility worldwide.

>>76192058
>We aren't in it because we want to help each others. We are in it to profit from it.
>Profiting off a loan from yourself to yourself
At best you remain as wealthy as you started from your first loan.

Thats why EU is stagnate, no risk no rewards.

>>76192059
>Germany has already done that to itself, UK
Done what to whom?

>UK separate from EU is giving it more credibility worldwide.
Pretty much any respectable world leader from Japan to the US either directly or indirectly voiced their opposition to Brexit.

The UK doesn't even have a functional government right now, Belgium-style, and it's considered to be the laughingstock of the whole continent. Thanks to this Brexit mess the polling number of our local eurosceptic party was cut in half.

>>76192109
No, the EU didn't stagnate. During the economic crisis we even had an economic growth of royghly 3%.

Thanks to the EU we can get rewards with no risks. Because the EU loans you money from your future self. And I don't know if you have some thinking cells in that skull of you but loaning from yourself doesn't cost anything.

The way you profit from it is because money is worth more now then in the future. That's the profit.

>>76192138
>Done what to whom?
Utterly discrediting itself worldwide.

>The UK doesn't even have a functional government right now, Belgium-style
The UK has one of the longest functioning government in Europe. Germany was only reunited 30 years ago or so.


>>76192210
>Thanks to the EU we can get rewards with no risks
>but loaning from yourself doesn't cost anything.
>because money is worth more now then in the future. That's the profit.
That sounds like a trap, not a reward lol.

>>76192255
It's not a trap it's how fucking capitalism works. Making money from money.

>>76192255
Havent seen someone dumber in quite a while, congrats fattie

>>76192293
>it's how fucking capitalism works
Capitalism wouldnt have system of loans controlled/operated equally by populace.

>Making money from money.
Why isn't it working better?

>>76192353
t; unemployed European Union dregg

>>76192255
>The UK has one of the longest functioning government in Europe. Germany was only reunited 30 years ago or so.

The UK has no government right now and will lose its second prime minister within a 2 year period while the current German government has been in power for 12 years straight and will be expected to be in power for 4 more years, 16 years in total of stable government.

>Utterly discrediting itself worldwide.
According to the annual BBC country poll Germany is still considered to be the most popular and respected country in the world and it has been dominating the top for at least a decade. The Breitbart comment section is not the international world stage.

>>76192437
>The Breitbart comment section is not the international world stage.
YANK BTFO

>>76192396
Are you implying loans are not part of a capitalist society? Are you mentally retarded or a sovjet proxy?

>>76192437
>The Breitbart comment section is not the international world stage.
Kek.

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>>76192503
>will lose its second prime minister within a 2 year period
Because they are honorable people who don't need to stranglehold power.

Germany has been completely discredited on the world stage, even the Dali Lama called Germany out.


>>76192493
>Are you implying loans are not part of a capitalist society?
A loan from yourself to yourself isn't possible. The collapsing of EU has proved that.

>>76188455
Lel good luck with that

>>76192571
What collapsing? I havent noticed much besides brexit that barely succeded considering its just 2% margin.

>>76192571
>even the Dali Lama called Germany out.

The Dali Lama is a former theocratic and feudal godking and a proven CIA operative, having been on their payroll before.

He is a joke and certainly not a person you should rely on for any commentary on current political issues.

>>76192571
>Because they are honorable people who don't need to stranglehold power.
At least Germany isn't going to war to get Britain back into the union, unlike you lot in 1861.

>>76192672
>What collapsing?
People being forced out of their homes? Having their property seized? Mass concentration camps (According to Pope). Now economic uncertainty because EU doesn't want to be asked to stop investing in UK?

>>76192689
>He is a joke and certainly not a person you should rely on for any commentary on current political issues.
Oh I should listen to some twerp like the last name thats the same a Junk (trash)?

Whose daddy made vehicles for Nazis and his family took over another fake country (Luxembourg )?

>>76192571
>The collapsing of EU has proved that.

The EU is more stronger than ever. The UK will get a Norway-style deal that will remove any of their voting power and representation in European institutions while still having to submit to EU legislation and pay fees, but without having a say in it.

This is essentially vassaldom. On the continent on the other hand, France elected her most pro-EU candidate in 20 years and pretty much all eurosceptiv movements have been utterly discredited.

Now France and Germany can openly move towards more integration, proposals for a common European army and a common European finance ministry are already on the table, without the resistance of the UK but they themselves voted to lose their representation within the EU.

>>76192571
EU is collapsing. And loaning from yourself is possible thanks to the EU because the EU spends money 4 years in advance.

2017
UK gives the EU €100
EU gives the UK €112,55 (money from 2021)
UK economy grows with 3%

2018
UK gives EU €103
EU gives UK €115,93
UK economy grows with 3%

2019
UK gives EU €106,09
EU gives UK €119,41
UK economy grows with 3%

2020
UK gives EU €109,27
EU gives UK €123,00
UK economy grows with 3%

2021
UK gives EU €112,55 (there's the money from 2017)

>>76192764
Having them back in the union isn't actually in our interest. It would be better for us if they were neutered in some Norway-style arrangement.

>>76192764
>At least Germany isn't going to war to get Britain back into the union
Because they don't have an army and they aren't getting one. EU is wide open, or French army will be calling the shots.

>>76192784
>The EU is more stronger than ever. The UK will get a Norway-style deal that will remove any of their voting power and representation in European institutions while still having to submit to EU legislation and pay fees, but without having a say in it.
Well its been more than a year since the vote and Germany wont let negotiations proceed.

>>76192816
Its germans fault now that the britbongs called earlier elections?

>>76192816
>Well its been more than a year since the vote and Germany wont let negotiations proceed.

Where are you getting that? We can't negociate if there is no government to negociate with, lmao. There is no British government right now.

The European Commission and their negoticators are ready to start pretty much any time.

>>76192802
And EU is only collapsing thanks to fucking populist dipshits, not because of the economy

>>76192863
>>76192873
>We can't negociate if there is no government to negociate with
There have been negotiations already but Germany keeps stalling and leaving them.

>>76192926
No, germnay isn't ecen theone negotiating. EU negotiates for us.

But UK doesn't have anyone for the EU to negotiate with.

>>76192926
You seem to be unhealthy obsessed with Germany mate.

>>76192926
First, the German government is not doing any negociating. The EU does.

Second, let me repeat again, the UK is not able to negociate and make any commitments now because right now, they don't even have a functional government.

Germany isn't even in the fucking equation.

>>76192960
>>76192988
>But UK doesn't have anyone for the EU to negotiate with.
The EU is too busy giving itself loans. And Germany is anti-UK sentiment drivers.

>>76193024
>the German government is not doing any negociating. The EU does.
>the UK is not able to negociate and make any commitments now because right now
>Germany isn't even in the fucking equation.
So Germany and EU 'countries' don't even get representation? Just shoehorned EU policy? Yikes, that really IS scary.

>tfw you can just let a big organisation with thousands of proffesional diplomats do the negotiating for you.

Feels good

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>>76193066
>tfw they don't negotiate for you and just gas you instead

>>76193065
The EU doesn't give itself loans, the EU members get loans from the EU with future money from the members. Do you have a human brain or a goldfish one?

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>>76193102
>EU members get loans from the EU with future money from the members
>future money
>EU economics

>>76193102
I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt at this point and just assume that he's either trolling or a paid shill.

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>>76193157
>just assume that he's either trolling or a paid shill.
Enjoy your future loan to yourself. By the way you can't refuse ;)

>>76193149
You really need to ask your elementary school if you can do it over. Because you need it.

>>76193206
I learn arabic and go to school in Europe for free.

>>76193228
You aren't able to go to school in EU for free. You need to be an EU citizen. Otherwise you get to pay the tuition.

>>76193243
>You need to be an EU citizen. Otherwise you get to pay the tuition.
What if I fight in Syria first? I'll need some food stamps also. :DDD

>this thread
off to watch some drachenlord to get my brain going again

>>76193149
>what are derivatives
>what is future market
>what are calls and puts

Just stop posting, my man.

>>76193263
You will lose your citizenship and won't be able to return ever. The last western thing you will ever see is a drone bombing your base paid for by the US tax payers.

>>76193201
>Poland ahead of France, Italy or Japan
nice Meme-life index

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>>76193280
>Brazilian flag
>talking to me about economics
I bet your communist government gave itself a bunch of loans too.

>>76193302
>The last western thing you will ever see is a drone bombing your base paid for by the US tax payers.
Then my brothers will continue to burn the new Holy Roman Empire in Europe!

>>76193303
Its true, the people on streets in Paris are just a microcosm. Not that France is a bad place in any means.

>>76193351
>Its true, the people on streets in Paris are just a microcosm. Not that France is a bad place in any means.
Thank you, I'm glad to hear we're enjoying western European standards of living. I'll be sure to let my countrymen know as well.

>>76193418
>I'll be sure to let my countrymen know as well.
Good I hope you've been inspired. Poland compared to 90% of the rest of the world is the Garden of Eden.

>>76193351
Your government is the loan champion.

Even China has 800billion dollars in cash stacked up in case you won't be able to pay for your loans so they can use it to buy up their own currency and make the dollar worthless in the process.

>>76193463
>Your government is the loan champion.
Because the US is a country, not a invading force like EU. If we take in $5 trillion in taxes every year, we could pay back $20 trillion in less than 20 years.

Its called being good for the money, not 'loaning to yourself'.

>>76193463
>they can use it to buy up their own currency and make the dollar worthless in the process.
Why would they buy up something thats useless?

Why are you pretended to understand currency? We are talking about UK's legal right to separate from EU.

>>76193527
>Because the US is a country, not a invading force like EU. If we take in $5 trillion in taxes every year, we could pay back $20 trillion in less than 20 years.
>Its called being good for the money, not 'loaning to yourself'.

That's the biggest bullshit I ever heard.

>Why would they buy up something thats useless?

Why are you pretended to understand currency? We are talking about UK's legal right to separate from EU.

You really have no idea how economy works.

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>>76193640
>EU makes loans to itself
>You really have no idea how economy works.