>you (singular) >you (plural)

you isn't singular

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>>76043642
>you isn't singular
literally "this sentence is false" tier

>>76043523
Youse
Yall

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>>76043523
yall
thou

>>76044399
thou are fat

>>76043523
What's the problem here? It just makes everything easier

>you (formal)
>you (informal)

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>cot
>caught

>>76044511
not everyone says them the same

>>76044451
then why do other languages have distinctive second person plural?

its not like they are idiots is it?

>>76044538
To be fair, there was ye but people stopped using it.

And now people say you guys or y'all to make up for the loss of ye.

>>76044476
tu
você

>>76044476
>(you)
>You!!!!!!

>>76044591
das rite man

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>>76044517
>knight, night
>know, no

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>we (inclusive)
>we (exclusive)

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>>76044430
Take that back!

>>76044641
got me there

>>76044687
just testing a sentence using thou

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>>76043523
>but
>butt
>bud

>>76043523
sen (you, singular)
siz(you, plural || you, singular formal)
its not hard english teacher in korea guy

>sie (singular 3rd person)
>sie (plural 3rd person)
>Sie (formal singular 2nd person)
>Sie (formal plural 2nd person)

>>76043523
>ikaw
>kayo

>>76044657
>tayo
>kami

>tu (singular)
>vous (plural or polite singular)
French, why? This was so nearly a useful distinction.

>>76043816
it's true tho
english used to had the pronoun "thu" as a singular
and "you" as a plural
eventually people started to "you" everyone

>tú
>usted
>ustedes
Feels good mang

>>76044731
But bud is pronounced differently.

>>76044847
alright so plz clear this up
usted is the singular you and ustedes is the plural right?
and in spain they use tu and vosotros
right?
any idea how this split came to be?

je / jij / jou / u / jullie

>>76044847
You forgot Vosotros.

>>76044884
>>76044897
they don't use vosotros outside Spain, only ustedes. vosotros in spain is informal, while ustedes is formal, no distinction is made outside spain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we

>using a plural noun for a singular object to show reverence
why do this

>>76044884
>>76044897
Tú - singular informal
Usted - singular formal
Vosotros - plural informal (only spen uses it)
Ustedes -plural formal (also informal here)

>>76044933
we don't have to answer this

>>76044767
>ihr (informal plural 2nd person)
>Ihr (archaic formal singular AND plural 2nd person)

>>76044887
je (indirect, informal)
jij (accusative, informal)
jou (accusative, informal)
jullie (plural, informal)
u (formal, singular and plural)

People have a strong preference for je.

>>76044476
>tu
What?

bydlo here say "yous"

>>76043523
>>76044476
I think that's a blessing, it gets rid of the "we're familiar enough to talk in singular" bullshit, and "you should talk to me in plural out of respect" crap.

>>76045907
English used to have this.
"thou" was the informal singular, but it became to be seen as rude, so everyone used the formal and plural "you".
So dialects invented new plurals to fill the gap that was created:
y'all
yinz
yous
you guys
>>76043523
Estonian has a singular informal, and the plural is used as a singular formal. There are also long and short forms:
sina - singular-informal, long
sa - singular-informal, short
teie - singular-formal, long; plural, long
te - singular-formal, short; plural, short

Each of these inflect for 14 cases, although the short forms are partially defective.
"with you" (the comitative case) can be "sinuga" or "suga", but "without you" (the abessive case) is always "sinuta".

>on - 3rd person number and gender indefinite
>on - 2nd person plural informal
I apologise

>>76043523
russian:
> you (singular informal)
> you (sing formal, plural informal, plural formal - these sound and look the same)

german:
> you (sing informal)
> you (plur informal)
> you (sing formal, plural formal and the fucking pronoun "they" (except it's not capitalazied) are the same)

>>76043523
>>you (singular)
>>you (plural)
>they (plural)
>they (singular)
>(((they))) (((plural)(indefinite))(jewish))(*lisp(joke))

>>76047895
>you (sing informal)
> you (plur informal)
> you (sing formal, plural formal and the fucking pronoun "they" (except it's not capitalazied) are the same)


literally false in every way, what the fuck are you talking about

>a
>an
>the
German
>hey Hans let's separate verb and put half of it in the end of the sentence

>>76048105
>du
>ihr
>Sie, sie
What?

>>76048284
i meant that every "> you" is a different type of "you" but didn't want to bring up german/russian words
why am i that retarded

>>76044574
the 'ye' you would see on bars like 'ye olde tavern' is actually 'the'. because the 'y' in 'ye' is not actually a 'y' but a letter that is pronounced as 'th' similar to the phonetic symbol of 'th'. over time people just pronounced it as 'y' because it looks like a 'y'.

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>die(animals except bees)
>die(for humans,bees and everything else)

>>76049145
why bees?

>>76049165
Our ancestors worshipped them

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>>76043523
>tfw having ti and ju, and cant decide what should you give.

>>76049210
>*lbanians

>>76049210
Illyrians?

>>76049240
Balkanic people in general actually. Its an animal you cannot eat, yet it provides food for you, so I can see why people then worshipped bees

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어
어요
입니다

나
내
나의
저
제
저의

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>sono (I am)
>sono (they are)

>>76049025
No you retard, ye is an actual word. The y in ye olde tavern is because th used to be written using þ, but since y and þ look similar in medieval font, people mistakenly used them for each other, and when þ fell out of use the y in ye olde tavern just stuck.

>>76049292
>yet it provides food for you

No it doesn't, you just steal its food. I guess that's considered normal in albania though.

>>76049718
>Honey bees collect pollen and nectar as food for the entire colony, and as they do, they pollinate plants. Nectar stored within their stomachs is passed from one worker to the next until the water within it diminishes. At this point, the nectar becomes honey, which workers store in the cells of the honeycomb, 95% not used most of the time by bees.
Nigga don't take bee movie seriously

>>76049808
sadly, every greek takes it seriously, like it is having its own period or so.

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>>76049210
>>76049292
Absolutely based.
MErovech agreed with you

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>write
>right
>rite
>ride

>>76050235
right
right?
write
rights
wright
rite

to
too
two

Thank god I learned english as a young kid, I feel sorry for those who have to learn it in adulthood
This is a fucked up language

>taught
>though
>thought
>throughout
>through
>true
>thorough

>>76050717
none of those sound the same though

'If two witches were watching two watches, which witch would watch which watch?'

>>76050785
>thought
>taught

>>76050899
If you pronounce those 2 identically, you're failing

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>lion
>(you pl.)play

>the grass
>shepherd

>also
>penis

>>76050949
They're almost indistinguishable in British English

>queue

>>76051013
>th
>t
those are obviously different sounds to anyone with ears

>>76049145
how do you call the bee movie?

>>76043523
Thou art good poster.

>>76051079
Filmi I Bletës

>>76043523
Y'all

>>76051106
blet i navalny

>>76051107
Shalt thou return to an ancient English and use thou instead of you?

>>76051159
i agree.
it always feels like i'm adressing everyone informally

>>76051159
https://youtu.be/JiFAoOWJ-c0

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Step aside citizen
>I
>you (singular)
>he/she (male/female)
>we (male/female)
>you (male/female plural)
>they (male/female)

>>76044641
>Their,There They're
>Pin, Pen
>to, too, two
>by,buy,bye
>compliment, complement
>Break, Brake
>Course, Coarse
>Hear, Here
and Finally...
> Raise, Rays, Rase, Raze, Rehs, Réis, Res

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>>76050985
>also
>penis
what?

>can
>can't

They all sound same

>>76044451
No, the only thing it does is leading to confusion.

>>76045907
You know, we didn't use plural until a bunch of Frenchboos started using it in like the 1800s. It is retarded and it should stop.

>>76049145

>differentiating between a human and animal death

I like but how do you say it?

>>76043523
I wonder if it's not French influence desu.

Tu ( casual Singular)
Vous (formal singular or plural)

>>76055938
The deer died is "Dreri ngordhi."(ngordh is die for all animals except bee)

The bee died is " Bleta vdiq"

The man died is "Burri vdiq"

>>76055127
>bile
>bile

>>76044591
>>76044629
That's stupid man
I hate them Brazil guys adressing everyone formal like
"e voce???"
e voce? fuck you!
e tu?

>>76044767
Bru that's only true for the nominative case!

>sie (singular 3rd person, nominative)
>sie (plural 3rd person, nominative)
>Sie (formal singular 2nd person, nominative)
>Sie (formal plural 2nd person, nominative)

>>76054999
>>Pin, Pen
What? That's obviously different.

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>>76057127
Some American dialects pronounce them the same, mainly the South

Another common one that is merged is cot and caught.

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>Ecть
>ecт
>этo
>этoт

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>>76043523
>no formal version of the word you

>>76044430
art*
Also wow rude :/

>>76058784
I lived in Fort Worth as a kid and I fucking hated the "English" the locals "spoke" there

>>76043523
use yall niggas
be funky

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>>76058861
vots ze problem?

In German people either adress others with Du or Sie. Du is the second person singular, Sie is the *third* person *plural*. In English people use the *second* person *plural*.

>>76058970
It sounds nice to me, but my only experience with it is my good friend's mom who has been in my area (Eastern North on that map) for at least 20 years so her accent is probably muted in a way.

>>76059059
the worst person I had to deal with wasn't actually from Fort Worth but from Oklahoma and it was somehow worse than the Fort Worth accent

>>76059151
What does it sound like, I've never Met an Okie. the furthest southwest I've been is Tennessee

>>76059001
Ecть, этo, и этoт вcё supposedly mean the same thing.
Ecть a ecт sound the same.

>>76059517
>ecть and ecт sound the same
not exactly, there's a subtle 'i' at the end of the former

>>76059588
I thout ь was meant to soften the previous letter?
Still don't quite get it.

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>>76045907
>talk to me in plural out of respect
only subhuman languages do that.

>>76059517
>"to eat", "this" (neuter) and "this" (plural) mean the same

>>76059688
yes, that's exactly it. try listening on google translate or something, but it's really just a subtle /j/ attached to the previous letter

>>76059517
>ь
this sign denominates "softening" the sound before it.
It's called miagkij znak. Literally "soft sign"

>>76054796
JUST FUCK MY BRAIN UP

>76059790
No, palatalized consonants are separate sounds with different articulations. Pronouncing them like their hard counterparts + j would make you sound like a foreigner.

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>>76060350
>>76059588

>>76056178
>burri is man

burri sounds like donkey here. How do you say "butter" and "donkey"?

>>76060500
>butter
Gjalpë, but a couple of Catholic villages here call it burrofresko(from Italian)
>donkey
Kërriç

>>76060680
oh ok then, nice

>>76059757
Can't ecть also mean "there is"?
I.e. "y тeбя ecть"

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>>76060795
>ecть means there is
>est in latin means there is
>ist in german means there is

INDOEUROPEAN'D

>>76044451
You fucking anglos love to play dumb when it comes to this stupid word.

>>76043523
we say yee (sounds like sea)

>>76059806
The technical term is palatalisation.

In English:
Compare the starting sound of "fuel" and "food". "fuel"'s /f/ is palatalised.

>>76056743
It's considered very informal.

>>76060795
Yes, it can also mean "is", "are" and "am", but that's still not the same thing as "this".

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>>76060858
>nos
>nasus
>nase

>more
>mare
>meer

>noč
>nox
>nacht

>brat
>frater
>bruder

>semia
>semen
>samen

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>giving inanimate objects genders

>>76064103
>brat
Still makes me chuckle
>>76062847
In what cases is it actually used anyway?

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>>76060680
>burrofresko

>>76044767
Capital Sie isn't second person. It's third person because you're not directly referring to the person directly. This also happens in romance languages.

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>>76064165
In Dutch we have genderless as well. We refer to genderless things as "it".

Short version: 't
Long version: het

Examples of genderless things: it house, it icecream, it child, it little girl

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>>76043523
>you (singular informal)
>you (singular formal)
>you (dual male/mixed)
>you (dual female)
>you (plural)
>you (plural female)

>>76064409
Mostly when avoiding it would make the sentence meaningless: "Cдeлкa ecть cдeлкa" (a deal is a deal), "У тeбя дoмa ктo ecть?" (is there anyone in your house?), "нe пытaйcя кaзaтьcя yмнee чeм ты ecть нa caмoм дeлe" (don't try to look smarter than you actually are).

>>76064617
>dual
Literal caveman tier

Some people are even trying to replace "he" and "she" with genderless "they".

>>76065502
That's not how it works, it is you who lacks an element as grand as dual, not me. Come back when Italian develops it.

>>76065502
more like noble peasant
Indo-European languages which have/had the dual number:
Lithuanian, a couple of hundred years ago
Scottish Gaelic
Slovene, Čakavian, Sorbian (also Old Church Slavonic)
Ancient Greek
Sanskrit
Gothic
Avestan

>>76066182
>Lithuanian, a couple of hundred years ago
>Scottish Gaelic
>Slovene, Čakavian, Sorbian
>Gothic
Barbaric languages used by paesants
>Old Church Slavonic
>Ancient Greek
>Sanskrit
>Avestan
Languages that maintained it because they were formalized literary languages that got their rules defined at an early stage of their development, spoken Greek had lost it by the VII century BC
>>76066091
You got it backwards, dual is an extremely primitive form, it's no wonder that the family were it's more widespread is Austronesian

>>76043523
only shitholes use 'you' for plural

y'ise for life

>>76044511
Ice>Eyes

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>>76043523
>language isn't gendered

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>>76064523
>it child, it little girl

>Boys are male
>Girls are things

everytime

>>76054999
>Pin, Pen
Those are different Cletus.

>>76043523

>"u" from "you" has certain a sound
>"u" from "cut" has a completely different sound

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>>76043523

>>76043523
(You) are, does it means we have a many personalities in one man?

Deep english.

sinä
te

>>76074675
They are the same
See>>76058784

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>>76043523
>to do (hasoseo-che)
>to do (hasipsio-che)
>to do (haeyo-che)
>to do (hao-che)
>to do (hage-che)
>to do (haera-che)
>to do (hae-che)