/lang/ - Language Learning thread

>>75751528

https://pastebin.com/ZrY22qe0
>Few more resources that didn't fit into OP

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>tfw can't into russian

>>75753203
Are you learning Russian for anything specific or just interested in the language?

What's the easiest part about the language that you're learning?

>>75753203
Этo нe хopoшo

Trying to learn Arabic.
Downloaded a nice little app which provides with some common phrases, but no grammar
What can I use?

>>75758181
you know the usual question when it comes to learning "Arabic"...

what kind of Arabic?

>>75761861
What do you mean by this? I'm interested in learning Arabic too. Is there a certain Arabic that I can talk to the most people with, or most commonly used?

>>75762185
>What do you mean by this?
I could point to different resources depending on the variety Giovanni above is interested in.
>I'm interested in learning Arabic too. Is there a certain Arabic that I can talk to the most people with, or most commonly used?
Egyptian Arabic and Levantine (Lebanese/Syrian) Arabic are understood throughout the Arab world. So is standard Arabic, unless the person is very uneducated. So you've got the Justin-to-Ahmad communication side covered.

The other direction is the problem. Whether you can understand somebody from Yemen speaking a mix of Yemeni, Egyptian with maybe bits of standard Arabic is another matter. Most people feel very uneasy trying to speak standard Arabic, and will generally insist in speaking some "elevated" form of their dialect if you don't know their dialect. Also, if you just care about one region, like say Morocco, then the sensible thing to do would be to learn Moroccan Arabic.

Trying to decide if I should restart learning Japanese or start fresh with Korean. I would have a lot more use with Japanese but I kind of want to try Korean

I've got horrible dedication when it comes to learning a single language. I try french for a while, give up, try mandarin for a while, give up, currently want to try russian. Foreign languages are so interesting but it's hard when you've got nothing to apply them to.

>>75762500
Thanks for the info. Say, if I learn standard Arabic, and I decide later on that Morocco is the region I'm really interested in, would it be easy to learn Moroccan Arabic from standard?

>>75762636
My issue is I have no reason or interest in a language. I was learning Spanish but had no desire to learn it as it's not interesting and I don't need it. Sucks. French is playing on my mind and I also did it in school so may give me encouragement

>>75762658
Yeah, it'd be. In fact, materials for learning dialects usually assume you know at least a little bit of standard Arabic anyway.

>>75762911
Do you know Arabic?

I asked last time I saw this thread a week ago or so but had to leave before seeing an answer.

Learning Portuguese for >muh heritage and I find much more resources for Brazilian Portuguese as opposed to European; are there any significant differences? From what little I know (been learning for ~3 weeks) there's some difference in the usage of the second-person but I won't claim certainty on that.

>>75762967
No but I studied it (on my own) for 3 years. I abandoned it 7 years ago, when I realized I didn't really care about Arabs or their literature.

>>75763192
Well thanks for the help man. Any last tips?

>>75763026
>are there any significant differences?
Yes.

1- The second person singular (tu) is much more widely spread in Portugal, while in Brazil is only used in the northern and southern most parts. As you're trying to learn the EU variant I suggest to pay close attention to their respective conjugations, as they are different depending of the pronoun used.
Here is a site that will conjugate any verb as long as you type its infinite form (it's in portuguese) www.conjuga-me.net

2- Another important difference is how we used the equivalent of the present continuous in english. Here is called gerúndio. In portugal, however, they use infinitivo gerundivo
Basically, portuguese people will conjugate the verb "estar" in the correct tense, add the preposition "a" and then use an action verb in its infinitive form:

I'm running (en)
Eu estou a correr (eu-pt)
I (eu) am (estou) running (estou a correr)

I'm working
Eu estou a trabalhar
I (eu) am (estou) working (estou a trabalhar)

It also works for past tenses:
I was eating
Eu estava a comer
I (eu) was (estava) eating (a comer)

3-Just like in american and brit english our spelling may vary a little
Fact (en)- facto (eu-pt)- fato (br-pt)
Optical (en)- óptico (eu-pt)- ótico (br-pt)
and so on

I don't think duolingo will teach you any of that, as it's in br-pt mostly. After learning the basics get the fuck out of there and go find specific sources.
Good luck regardless, hopefully this wall of text on scare ya.

>>75763808
>>75763759
Thank you friend. This is helpful, especially the verb conjugation portion. I'll give the link a shot and see what I can learn.

Why does memrise only have odd numbered levels. I am retarded somehow?

>>75753203
Go to your local store and buy a tracksuit, that'll help.

Donu al mi lingvomemeojn, fekuloj.

>>75764933
Only odd numbered levels?Like where?

>>75761861
>>75762500
Thanks leaf
I downloaded the packs from the torrent in OP, and both those and the app I have have me learning Modern Standard Arabic, I'll get into that and after perhaps focus on a specific dialect.
>>75763192
Did you get to a decent level in 3 years of studying on your own?

>>75762636
>>75762716

iktf lads. Recently started Farsi but i know i'm probably not going to stick to it now. Fuck i wish it was easier to stick to a language.

Tryna learn Arabic too because of Iraqi gf

Reminder that old provençal is objectively the best romance language.