Last year, for the first time in post ww2 history

how long is it going to last?
I've heard polish people just fucking hate everything positive
so how long is it gonna last till you go back to being a dying nation?

>>75731000
We don't hate everything positive, we hate everything, the negative things as well.

>>75731022
oh, aight.
Godspedd

How long till you get Kremlin'd ?

>>75731022
We have more in common than I thought, Poland.

>>75730969
Good job, friends
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1etpTkjn5WE

>>75730969
polaks are slavic subhumans
poland is an ugly salv shithole

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>>75731208
Have a titslut.

>>75731275
polaks are slavic subhumans

>>75731093
We are USA and EUs slut that's scheming behind their back trying to make Belarus and Ukraine the place where this happens so I doubt it for at least the next 50 years.

>>75731307
polaks are slavic subhumans

>>75731295
>>75731319
>>75731245
I am greek

>>75731332
polaks are slavic subhumans

>>75731358
Where are you from?

>>75731671
Greece
polaks are slavic subhumans

>>75730969
with prosperity comes migration and decadence.
The investors building up Poland have an ulterior motive in mind.

I'd say Poland is at least aware of the ulterior motive but it will take some interesting political maneuvering that really won't be possible without Poland going full blown fascist.

Will they have a fascist revolution? or will leftism slowly creep into their society with each passing generation as it did in so many other countries?
Time will tell.

Personally, I'd be fine with /v4/ becoming a fascist superstate in Europe between the EU and Russia.

lol @ the mentally ill turko-gayreek faggot in germany

I hope they cut his medicare aid to sponsor refugees and toss his ass out on the streets.

>>75731358
i thought this retard got banned

>>75731846
polaks are slavic subhumans

>>75731881
slavic subhuman

>>75731897
why are you in every thread
get a life

>>75731881
This shithole bans people who make legit threads and lets the shills run wild.

it's okay they I enjoy seeing this faggot lurk int 24/7 and blitzkriegs every polish thread he sees

someday he's going to commit suicide and he will end his frustration

cuz this pussy certainly has no balls to make like a real man and step it up in real life.

>>75731948
polaks are slavic subhumans

>>75731765
I don't want to be facist.

Most people in Poland hate the left but hate facists as well, the sad thing is this majority dosn't vote(or votes because they feel obligated) because they don't have their party one that keeps the church away from power and is neither left or right.

It's a strange state of mind, for example we dislike arabs but like asians. Is it racist? Who the fuck cares, but that's how we think.

Same with the refugees, a lot of Poles would be ok with refugees from SE asia or Europe(non muzzie though) but will never, ever take Syrians or Pakis.

>>75732006
polaks are slavic subhumans

>>75732006
>dislike arabs


the proper term for them is semites

and all semites are terrorist garbage

>>75730969
poland seems pretty ok

which region of poland gets the best weather?

>>75732801
Lower Silesia.

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>>75732857
ah neat, then would you generally recommend Wroclaw as a decent city to live (and find work) in?

>>75732887
It's ok. One of the richer places if anything, more progressive than most of Poland, the region is great when it comes to old stuff and nature.

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>>75730969
I will return one day.

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>>75730969
>More people settled in Poland than left. Also the birth rate gone up.
Is this because you've trapped them all in prison?

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>>75731881
It was probably only for a day. He literally has nothing better to do all day. He needs to get new material though.

>>75730969
Once these Brexit repatriators find out that your current government is as backwards if not more so as the current British government they'll leave again. But this time for Germany.

>>75735529
Settled you dumb fuck, as in non-polish citizens did that.

>>75735598
source?

>>75735529
Once Germans - if - figure out that the German government is suicidal they'll will start crossing the Oder for the new Ostsiedlung.

>>75735633
http://tvn24bis.pl/z-kraju,74/gus-przyrost-naturalny-i-migracje-w-2016,744492.html

google translate it

note that this is a leftist news portal and even those noted that stat

>>75730969
>More people settled in Poland than left. Also the birth rate gone up.

thanks hohols

>>75735683
This desu.

>>75730969
>More people settled in Poland than left
Ukrainians
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-06/million-migrants-fleeing-putin-score-a-policy-jackpot-for-poland
Good luck, Poland. You're not going to be homogeneous for long.

>>75735683
>>75735699
ukrainians are 100% assimilated within few years of living in poland, so that's ok

>>75735683
>>75735699
>>75735753
Got 2 qt ukrainian female friends, one makes pies for me from time to tome so I couldn't care less desu.

>>75735678
It doesn't seem mention the nationality of the newly settled people.

>>75735788
*from time to time

>>75735659
Nope. Current migration trends make Germany a magnet and within German the largest attractors are the economically successful regions which have a far higher share of foreigners already than the nationalistic backwards eastern territories.

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>>75735753
Well actually...

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>>75735889
>Germany a magnet
Sure, for rape and bombs.

>>75735982
Looks ptretty much the same like the result of a single day of normal street traffic. Yet you seem somehow concerned.

>>75736093
This.

No idea why right wing shitlords spreg out, might as well have been 1 train accident instead.

>>75736093
Keep being cucked you cuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiwZGHnpfh4

>>75730969
I am happy for Poland, of course.
Hopefully your country will keep on improving and will soon become a net contributor in European Union

>>75736112
Just kys you cancerous N. tumor.

>>75736238
I hope by 2020 Poland get's out of this increasingly more totalitarian and socialist globalist wannabe super country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTKy3RyKmGY

>>75736294
What alternatives do you see for Poland?
Should it develop closer ties with Russia?

>>75736238
Once v4 is net contributor we are leaving the Eu

>>75736341
It's a tricky question that requires a complicated answer.

>>75736351
Exactly what I was thinking. By 2020 the EU gibs are ending anyway.

>>75736429
I would love to hear your answere

>>75736351
>>75736467
you can't leave so easily because your countries are deeply integrated into German supply chain
Even outside of the EU, you would be still very dependant on Germany and other western countries

>>75736341
China
or if it's still around and somehow willing, America

>>75736472
I'll try to be short. Intermarium 2.0. Cooperation with U.S. and China. Try to improve relations with Russia (but it would depend on them and their expansionist aspirations) while at the same time being very sceptical and careful and watch out for closer German-Russian ties. Play it like Orban, basically keep all options open for as long as it's possible. But yeah, focus on V4 and Intermarium.

>>75736564
China and America are really far away, which makes trade rather expensive.
And I don't think that either of those countries would have the political will to defend Poland against its neighbours

>>75736589
>Intermarium 2.0
Would require for Baltic countries to chose Poland over Germany, which is very unlikely
>V4
V4 doesn't work because authoriterian governments like in Poland or Hungary are bad teamplayers. They are ready to backstab each other and there is no sense of brotherhood in V4. Just look at how Poland voted against Tusk and nobody supported them. To me, it's a sign that Poland is rather isolated.

>Try to improve relations with Russia
A wise move, but again, given the chance, Russia would chose Germany over Poland if given the choice.

>Cooperation with U.S. and China
As I wrote before, due to distance, the trade with those countries would be pretty expensive, and Poland would have no levarage in a possible trade deal.
Plus, those countries wouldn't be really commited to defend Poland in case of an emergency

>>75736626
India's always an option, though admittedly they have close ties with Russia
Funnily enough, thanks to Brexit, Britain's another option

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>>75736739
>Funnily enough, thanks to Brexit, Britain's another option
I don't think Brits are very found of Poles

>>75736556
We have the largest deposits of lithium in Europe

We will flood the european markwt with cheap batteries to elctric vehicles

We are good

>>75730969
Mohammoudo and friends are next

Also, your fertility rate is still only 1.38 as of 2016

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>>75736189

>>75736947
So you wann become a resource based economy?

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>>75736735
>Would require for Baltic countries to chose Poland over Germany, which is very unlikely
Literally they already have. The president of Estonia for example have said in an interview that he would wish Poland stepping up its game on the international stage and take the leadership role for eastern Europe like it has before during the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth period and lead the Baltics and other countries in the region. Serbia said something similar.
Poland does not have an authoritarian government, nor Hungary. And no, Poland and Hungary are gay for each other for almost a millenium. Czech's and Slovak's are closing ties with Poland too. And all V4 countries got much closer together and are on the same page on the migrant crisis and are opposing the EU estabilishment.
>Just look at how Poland voted against Tusk and nobody supported them.
That was just a missunderstanding and bad communication on PiS part.
>Russia would chose Germany over Poland if given the choice.
Of course they would. Each time Poland dissapeared from the map was when those two cooperated with each other.
>As I wrote before, due to distance, the trade with those countries would be pretty expensive,
Poland is already increasing trade with them and the Silk Road 2.0 with it's central hub most likely planned in Poland will increase trade tremendously.
>Plus, those countries wouldn't be really commited to defend Poland in case of an emergency
China no, but U.S. more likely.

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>>75737118
There is already one big battery factory u/c, another one in prague and our goverment is in talks about tesla gigafactory

So our lithium, our batteries and vw and tesla cars

Btw. all these lithium deposits are like 10km from german border

>>75737287
>The president of Estonia for example have said in an interview that he would wish Poland stepping up its game on the international stage and take the leadership role for eastern Europe
Words are cheap. You should rather look at the actions of baltic states, which show that they are closer to Germany and Nordic countries rather than to Poland.

>Czech's and Slovak's are closing ties with Poland too.
Not as close as their ties with Germany.

>Of course they would. Each time Poland dissapeared from the map was when those two cooperated with each other.
And how would an independant Poland prevent closer Russian-German ties and the history repeating itself?

>China no, but U.S. more likely.
USA is becoming more and more isolationist. I doubt most Americans would commit to defending Poland.
And even if that were the case, would you really want the same situation as in 1939, Poland between two powerful entities and with allies far away?
You would be completely dependant on Americas goodwill, and you would become their bitch

>>75737334
I am not sure if you are kidding.
Do you really wanna become an african tier country with no indusrty, only surviving by selling lithium to developed countries?

>>75737287
Why do live in Sweden?

Why don't you come back to Poland?

>>75736556
>hurr durr you can't
we can and will, when >>75736351
in addition it will not affect anything in integrayed supply chain you mentioned, unless you will be eager to change that, but you will be not

>>75737438
>Words are cheap. You should rather look at the actions of baltic states, which show that they are closer to Germany and Nordic countries rather than to Poland.
They are close to Nordic countries in terms of trade, but that doesn't neglect anything I (they) said.
>Not as close as their ties with Germany.
Still, V4 is politically much closer to each other in values.
>And how would an independant Poland prevent closer Russian-German ties and the history repeating itself?
It's trying that by playing the good goy of the U.S. (who's interest it is to keep Germany down and Russia out - NATO - not allowing them to fully cooperate). Creating an Intermarium 2.0 economical and miltiary block would be the next step. Lech Kaczynski tried to do that, but he suddenly died in the Smolensk plane crash and the pro-German cucks took power and reversed that.

>>75737538
What

I just said they we will use our lithium in our batttery factories and put them in elctric cars made in czech republic

>poland majority white
>population increasing
>western europe becoming increasingly muslim and devolving into civil war

Will we see the Polish military moving into Germany to expand their influence and take clay?

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>>75737584
I will in the future.

>>75737617
They can take north

>>75737615
it seemed to me you implied that exporting lithium could replace your economic ties with germany and the rest of EU

>>75737701
Nah

We still need access to western european market, just that we are good without eu funds

>>75737617
No we’ll see Poles work for trinkets in German musloim owned factories.

Just like now, but the Germans will also be of muslim faith.

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>>75737698
They should take it all just for the banter.

>>75737701
You're forgetting the fact that German economy is also tied to eastern-Europe, especially Poland being one of its largest trading partners.

Kocham Polskę i Polaków.

>>75737749
oh definitly, but if Poland decided to leave the EU, Germany would have no choice but to reduce its ties with Poland.
With that beeing said, I do believe it would be easier for Germany to find another good qualified country with cheap labour, than for Poland to find a highly developed country that would integrate them into their supply chain

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>>75737746
Nah

This is our clay

>>75737681
You've been saying that for some time already.

You should do it now, instead of cleaning Swedish toilets.

>>75737768
come here then and help us make poland great again :3

>>75737739
well of course
Once Czech Republic reaches a certain level of prosperity, they will stop beeing a net benefactor and will be expected to contribute to the developmend funds

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>>75737739
Btw 75% of our export goes to EU

So yeah we are fucked without single market

>>75737829
Once the UK leaves the average will go down and we should be paying already

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>>75737798
>than for Poland to find a highly developed country that would integrate them into their supply chain
Dude, why do you think I've been talking about V4 and Intermarium all this time. Not forgetting the Silk Road 2.0 rail lines from China to Poland.
>>75737799
Dude, return Prague (Bohemia was Polish for a short time as well)...
.
.
.
But I'm just kidding.
>>75737802
How do you know?

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>>75737929
So let's quit from this sinking undemcratic shithole before it takes us down with them.

>>75738005
Bohemia was never polish lol

We just share the same dynasty for short time

Big differnce

>>75738005
>V4 and Intermarium
Just look at the pictures you post. You don't seem to regard the V4/Blatic states as equals.
You are dreaming about Polands supremacy, ruling over those countries. They would be pretty stupid to join your project

>>75738091
>We just share the same dynasty for short time
Whatever, same shit. :D
>Just look at the pictures you post.
I was just kidding. I and no one from Poland want to take Slovakia for fucks sake.
>You don't seem to regard the V4/Blatic states as equals.
Says who exactly, fucking Germany??? You better be kidding me now.
>You are dreaming about Polands supremacy, ruling over those countries.
Not really, I just wish a strong Intermarium block which could stand up to German and Russian supremacy and would give us more security.

I don't wanna fight.

>>75738180
So with your logic we were once english when we have queen from stuart dynasty

>>75738214
With my logic being just BS banter that doesn't make much sense? Yes.

>>75738180
>Says who exactly, fucking Germany???
It is true that Germany can be sometimes arrogant towards East or South Europe, but why should the Eastern European states chose Poland over Germany? Germany at least can offer them free gibs

>Not really, I just wish a strong Intermarium block which could stand up to German and Russian supremacy and would give us more security.
Poland on its own will never be able to stand up to Germany and Russia on its own, especially if those two should ally. Your best bet is to have good relations with Germany or/and Russia

I was in Polan last year

It was cool. First country I visited where you can get a full bottle of vodka for the price of a beer

A+ would visit again

>>75738421
>but why should the Eastern European states chose Poland over Germany?
Geography and common interests.
>It is true that Germany can be sometimes arrogant towards East or South Europe
And this.
>Germany at least can offer them free gibs
Life is not only about free gibs (which end in 2020 anyway). There are other more important things in life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJVo0LyMX2c [Embed]
>Poland on its own will never be able to stand up to Germany and Russia on its own,
Did I say on its own? I have like repeated V4 and Intermarium like 6 times now.

>>75738546
>Geography and common interests.
Let's take Czech Republic, as example. They are just as close to Germany as they are to Poland, and their economical ties with Germany are much tighter.
Why should they pick Poland over Germany?

>Did I say on it's own? I have like repeated V4 and Intermarium like 4 times now.
That would be still not enough if Germany and Russia would ally.
And why should countries like Czech Republic chose to be isolated and have security risks, rather than just keep on their excellent relations with Germany?

>>75738653
>and their economical ties with Germany are much tighter.
For now. But again, you're forgetting that values sometimes are more important than economy.
>rather than just keep on their excellent relations with Germany?
You sure they are so excellent, considering what Merkel is doing?

>>75738711
>you're forgetting that values sometimes are more important than economy.
I hope you are not refering to "racial purity"

>>75738590
how much did it cost (in euros)? and what brand was that?

>>75738596
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJVo0LyMX2c

She’s wrong. We should take in as much young muslim men as possible, give them free education in organic chemistry and microbiology and then send them on their merry way to western europe.

>>75738763
right to own automatic weapons

>>75738763
That is a plus, but I wasn't really. But you said it already previously.
>chose to ... have security risks,
>>75738796
Top kek. But I wouldn't even waste money on them.
>>75738850
Now that as well. In this case I wish Poland took some clues from Czechia. Fuck the EU seriosuly.

>>75738913
>chose to ... have security risks,
And beeing part of EU is much better to reduce security risks.
An Intermarium would be in constant fear of russian agressions

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>>75738795

tasted like shit, of course but still. that was 6 euro for 700ml

>>75738913
if it wasn't for EU you wouldn't be able to scrub swedish toilets

lmao I cant stop laughing at all these stupid polish retards itt hurr durr Poland stronk we super power now
literally off yourselves you stupid cunts, cant wait to finally move away from this shithole full of morons like you

>>75738999
>6 euro for arktica
you got scammed

>>75738913
Mind you, A-class weapons (everything from machine pistol to nuke) are only available to people who can prove they need them for their job or to collectors who are then limited to three pieces per type, have to keep them in strongbox and face regular police checks, not to mention they have to give blowjob to police chief first to even be granted the licence..

However, nobody would probably complain if you took your Bren gun from strongbox for selfdefense...

>>75739046

it was in a bar in warsaw so im fine that they upped the price a bit

got some really nice ones from shady stores as well that i brought home, but i dont remember their names. it was actually also the first time i was in a country where shopkeepers literally didnt speak any english

good think pointing and grunting worked

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>>75738993
>And beeing part of EU is much better to reduce security risks.
Bwhahahaha! You, you... Just say you're joking please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfG1myglfhY
>>75739007
My parents moved with me years before Poland joined the EU moron.
>>75739089
Similar but still better than Poland.

>>75738993
How about we join euroasian union?

We keep all our freedoms, while russians get to larp they are our masters, win-win.

>>75738850
I don't support the EU weapon restrictions.
But I do believe that rather than leaving the EU over such matter, people of different countries should get together and create a grassroot movement, protesting against the stricter weapon laws.
If your house has a hole in the wall, it is better to fix the hole, rather than to burn down the house

>>75739199
Honest question, are you trolling?
Eurasian Union is Russia + Russian vassal states

>>75739215
>If your house has a hole in the wall, it is better to fix the hole, rather than to burn down the house
The problem is, you can't fix the house. The EU was created then co-opted for a certain goal.

>>75739172
>My parents moved with me years before Poland joined the EU moron.
Why don't you move back to Poland? I find it rather hypocritical how you talk about independant Intermarium, while at the same time you enjoy the benefits of a rich EU country

>>75739313
>Why don't you move back to Poland?
I will in the future.

>>75739331
Why not now? I am sure Poland would greatly benefit from your contributions

>>75739366
Because I need to finish my education first. It's a very hard life in Poland otherwise.

>>75739388
So you wanna get free education, payed by Swedish taxpayers, and not give anything back in return?

I wish to emigrate to Poland someday.

>>75739253
Russia isn’t soviet union, it can’t afford porper war (well, nobody can) it couldn’t even properly sieze control of Doneck and Luhansk republics.

The leash it keeps its vassals is long. All they would really demand of us to stone few fags a year to prove loyalty to "traditional values".

>>75739439
Chill out, Günther.
Every university in Europe is flooded with foreign student. Taking you education abroad, and moving back has become a pretty normal thing to do.

>>75739527
It is, unless you see EU as an evil opressor and want to free your country from it, after you personally got an education paid by the EU

>>75739439
>and not give anything back in return?
I never said that. I plan to work her for a bit and gain some capital before I move. Both my parents have paid taxes for decades for my education btw.

>>75739471
Just compare what happend when a country (UK) left the European Union, versus a country (Ukraine) leaving the Eurasian Union.

>>75739563
>got an education paid by the EU
Wtf are you even talking about.
My parents taxes are not the big brother EU you moron.

>>75739577
Then how comes you view the EU as evil opressor, when your family benefited so greatly from the ability to work and travel freely within the EU?
Are you aware that if Poland follows your suggestion, future generation of Poles wont be able to enjoy the same opportunities you and your family did?

>>75739659
>when your family benefited so greatly from the ability to work and travel freely within the EU?
We didn't really benefit from it because we moved here many years before we actually could.
>future generation of Poles wont be able to enjoy the same opportunities you and your family did?
Mass migration from Poland is a very bad thing for Poland economically and demographically. Good thing it's slowly reversing tho.

>>75739716
>Mass migration from Poland is a very bad thing for Poland economically and demographically. Good thing it's slowly reversing tho.
>he said, posting with a Swedish flag

>>75739606
UK is yet to leave.

With Ukraine Russia learned its lesson. Doneck and Luhansk are gonna be Russian problem for decades and financially Crimea is net loss to Russia.

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Demographics are even worse than asspaña's.

Japan's technology
https://twitter.com/mansooon/status/871007653496893441

>>75739823
You really believe EU would invade and annex part of UK and fund a civil war in England?

>>75739819
>>he said, posting with a Swedish flag
Just because I'm abroad (not my own fault) doesn't mean I cannot think critically.

>>75739877
Nope, it will block the trade deals, which will lead to economic trouble in UK that in turn will lead to civil disobedience...

>>75739877
I believe Schultz would want to do that on the V4 if the EU army was already in place like he wants it to be.

>>75739894
so you are allowed to enjoy the benefits that Sweden provides, but the majority of Poles shouldn't have the same opportunity, because thats not good for Poland?
And assuming you are over the age of 18, it is your fault, nobody forces you to stay in Sweden

>>75739962
Let's assume for a moment it was true: isn't it the good right of EU to do or not do trade deals with whoever they want?

>>75739970
>but the majority of Poles shouldn't have the same opportunity,
Never said that they shouldn't have the opportunity..
>because thats not good for Poland?
Only that it is not good for Poland in general, just stating a fact.
>And assuming you are over the age of 18, it is your fault, nobody forces you to stay in Sweden
Please...

>>75739856
Truly Japanese ingenuity!

>>75740104
gracias^_^

>>75739856
Okay, wtf Japan...

Ok Ivan, the toilet is the next door on the left.

>>75742932
>Ivan
What does Russians have to do with anything?

>>75737799
ebin grössbohemiums

>>75744615
Bohemians will be bohems.

>>75737799
Why the Berlin area. Without that it'd make sense kinda.