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Kuomintang Reactionaries edition

>Resources for learning Mandarin:
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/pages/6427
http://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/pronunciation/
http://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/
https://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php
https://gloss.dliflc.edu
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/zhongwen-chinese-english/kkmlkkjojmombglmlpbpapmhcaljjkde

>Resources for learning Cantonese:
https://guidetocantonese.wordpress.com/start/
http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/
http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cantonese-popup-dictionar/pjnbhojkojmibobcpfgihhnohboldhip

>Resources for learning Hokkien:
http://www.tailingua.com/
http://learntaiwanese.org/
http://www.taiwanesedictionary.org/

>Resources for learning Wu:
http://wu-chinese.com/minidict/
http://shh.dict.cn/
http://www.mandmx.com/shanghainese/
http://wu-chinese.com/zanhei/pitch.html
http://sinoglot.com/2012/10/shh-sandhi/

>Resources for learning Uyghur:
https://lemountainsandthesea.wordpress.com/uyghur/
https://www.farwestchina.com/2014/04/ultimate-guide-to-learning-uyghur-language.html/
http://www.ccapprox.info/uyghurbooks/tomur.pdf

>Smartphone dictionary (supports both Mandarin and Cantonese):
https://www.pleco.com/

aforementioned resource credit goes to 一路順風

>set strokes straight
http://www.yes-chinese.com/tzg/

>check canonical corpus
http://www.cncorpus.org/cncindex.aspx

>read retrospective runes
http://ctext.org/

>Online Dictonary
http://www.archchinese.com/
https://www.mdbg.net/chinese/dictionary
http://ce.linedict.com/#/cnen/home
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>Be me
>Go to Youku to listen to music because Leslie Cheung videos from YouTube are getting old
>Can't read any Sino-Runes yet so fly by the seat of my pants when navigating the site
>Error messages pop up when I look at most videos
>Make an account
>Still get blocked from everything
>Click on everything that can be clicked on on the error screen like a dumbass
>Get brought to a download link
>Opera doesn't tell me if the link is suspicious or anything so I install it
>It's just an in-house application for browsing Youku
>It works but now my entire fucking computer becomes overrun with Chink software
>Fucking Chinese Rainmeter takes up my entire screen
>PANIC.jpg
>Use every possible method I uninstall all this shit
>The Uninstaller is the most bewilderingly complicated thing I've seen in my entire life, even if I could read mandarin
>Have to fight to get everything uninstalled
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>>75689759
We respect copyright now. If you go to websites like youku or netease music you'll need a Chinese vpn to bypass regional lockout
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>>75689385
gee you took a lot of effort making this thread
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>China thinks they can be a superpower
>mfw
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>>75690581
>implying the China needs carriers
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>>75690607
>implying you can be a superpower without carriers
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>>75690639
>military superpower works well for the USA
>no useless wars against apes in useless desert
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>>75690680
you have a point but it doesn't stop communists from daydreaming to be a superpower
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>>75690680
>sends 4 carriers to south china sea
>commies shit their pants again
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>>75690728
China can't be invaded because PLA is too strong on land. Besides, Americans have the F-22 and other toys that can clear any airspace from enemy fighters. Still they have fought past half century against guerrillas. I'd argue that Americans are prisoners to their over floated military budget. No chance in hell it can be cut ever.
>>75690730
>"commies"
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>>75690730
it's ultimately your fault, if you had to fight the axis you should've wait until the Führer finish off Soviet Union. Without Russian aid Commies would had little chance beating KMT
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>>75690680
Mene nukkumaan.
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Do you Chinese anons see that Chinese economy is doing ok? India has faster growth rate and there has been talk that some bubble is going to burst soon.
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Do normal, average chinese people really support the PRC party?
it seems odd considering chinas history with unpopular governments in the past, and the whole great firewall deal
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>>75690808
the soviet focus was on the chinese soviet republic, after it was defeated by the kmt in 1934, the ccp was pretty much on its own during the shaanxi phase all the way until the soviet invasion of manchuria
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>>75690894
India altered its method of calculating gdp, i read if you calculate it the old fashioned way it's shitty as ever

China is not doing ok, foreign investment is fleeing, debts everywhere is increasing. Real estate bubble is too big to burst
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>>75690969
Seems like economy is shit no matter where you go.
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>>75690909
Small folks had shitty living standards throughout Chinese history. Now is golden age by Chinese standards. This is so fucked
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>>75690909
it's not a matter of support but whether or not they are doing the right thing
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China will become another Japan, but even worse because its so much bigger

Vietnam and Thailand are the only developing Asian countries who will become developed in the near future
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>>75691152
how are things going? are you getting close to a free society?
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Communism is gay
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>>75691221
depends on your idea of free
more free than China and I think the government does a good job at fighting corruption/crime and so on
never feel unsafe and things are generally clean and work well
lots of new money around and shiny buildings/McMansions including mine
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>>75691281
You think the big shots in the Party have a timetable of terminating one party system? You can never be certain of your future as long as they are still there
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>>75691281
is that chinese high-speed rail through vietnam still a thing? last i heard they were gonna build a line all the way to singapore
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Should I start learning mandarin? I'd imagine if we're due for turmoil over the next decade or two it could be very useful
>inb4 you'll never be as good as australian born chinese duo-lingual
They're not really trusted when it comes to a lot of more important positions in companies
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>gotta post sth to try to keep the bread alive before i'm gone
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>>75691524
More like all the languages except English will be obsolete. Every major field from finance to tech requires English. But it's always an enormous plus to learn a language and if you want to live in China mandarin is a must.
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>>75691328
can't be certain of it with a democracy either
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我大学田舎也然中國人多 我聞中國人多於世界中
此世界中国人不存在地域有哉?
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为什么在美国的中国人这么多!
>>75691254
你在说自己的国家是gay?
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>>75692996
Moon I guess
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>>75693281
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>>75692903
What I meant is, inevitably reform will require them to relinquish their power, and if they got power hungry and refuse to step down, they will roll back economic reform as well.
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哪个是最不受尊重的亚洲国家,为什么是日本呢?
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Is Chinese rent level expensive?
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>>75694030
You can apparently live pretty well off 60k burger money a year, anyone able to confirm?
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>>75694065
60k in burgers is good life in pretty much everywhere
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>>75693895
>最不受尊重
在东南亚:东提莫/巴布亚新几内亚
在东亚:蒙古
南亚:孟加拉
>最恐怖
在东南亚:都是垃圾
在东亚:中国
南亚:印度,巴基斯坦
>>75694030
Where? Places like Shanghai, Beijing, Hongkong is just like living in some fairly good developed cunt. Other cities are cheap possibly for Finland
>>75694065
In terms of cny:
420000 per year
35000 per month
1000+ per day
What the fuck is Australian fucking rich
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>>75691152
>Vietnam and Thailand are the only developing Asian countries who will become developed in the near future

Explain.
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>>75691152
Malaysia is already more developed than Thailand, they have higher growth as well.
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>>75694145
You forgot Nork
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>>75691281
in a war against China or other neighbors, who would fare better in your opinion?
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>>75690894
if doing ok means being the fastest growing economy among major countries then it is doing ok, but not as good as the golden era, that's so sure
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/indianews/article-4559372/India-loses-fastest-growing-economy-tag-sharp-growth-slowdown.html
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>>75690581
>Japanese carriers

They are pretty shit, thb. Not even capable of launching harriers because the heat would melt the decks.

"Helicopter Carriers" arent carriers.
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>>75698628
you forgot
>pick one
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>>75698757
We can form a Confederate.
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>>75698628
China's only way to rule the world is by getting Taiwan back.

PLAN East Sea Fleet will be disbanded and reformed as a PLAN Pacific Fleet, HQ in Taipei. From there, they will roam the Pacific Ocean and raid US and Japanese shipping whenever they want, while putting the continental US under secured sea based nuclear deterrence.

Without Taiwan, China will forever remain a 2nd rate power.

Which is why I am pretty sure that China and Xi Jinping will risk everything to get Taiwan back, even if it means exchanging Shanghai and Beijing in nuclear hellfire. Taiwan is a prize that is worth almost every loss, because it means breaking the 1st island chain and becoming a true superpower.
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>>75699064
tell that to daddy Xi
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>>75699033
>jawline
>hands
I have bad news for you, anon
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>>75699082
Shanghai itself is greater than Taiwan

Keep dreaming capitalist roaddog
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>>75699308
>she
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>>75699480
t. PTT user
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>>75699454
I just knew you were going there
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>>75699033
>>75699308
Not him. She's certainly above average, but you think it's a good idea to post her photos on 4chan?
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>>75699554
→_→
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>>75699647
......
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>>75699347
Shanghai allows no open access to the West Pacific. Taiwan does.

I would even go as far to say that China will still be a superpower if 90% of mainland cities get destroyed in exchange for the PRC controling Taiwan.

Sea Power is everything. Who needs dustbowl provinces where you can even hardly grow sorghum because of constant drought if you can sacrifice them and have an island that has access to deep waters of the west pacific, that lets you send out your great white fleet to raid the shit out of your enemies, build overseas colonies and pillage resources around the world?

Ruling the world seas was always more important than ruling more continental territory. Look at England, Japan and the USA vs. Russia and Prussia. Those who have shit sea-access or shit geography for sea-power are always the losers.
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>>75691152
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH

>$2010 GDP per capita, 2016
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>>75690969
>China is not doing okay

KEK,
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/16/china-reports-q1-gdp.htm
lhttp://fortune.com/2017/04/17/china-gdp-growth-q1-booming/

What is our measly 1.2% growth in the USA or 2.8% in Spain then?
In Q1 2017, Spain finally surpassed its Q2 2008 peak.
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>>75691152
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHJAJJAJAJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ =))))) -_0(929229 =))))) +DDDDDD kek

>>75691281
>more free than China
>I think the government does a good job fighting corruption
HOLY SHIT THIS IS FUCKING HILARIOUS I AM LITERALLY ROLLING AROUND LAUGHING HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHEEEEEE
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>>75699725
China was never a military superpower, nor does it aspire to be
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>>75699774
it's not about the growth, it's about the debt
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>>75699725
an anon actually knows what's going on, rare
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>>75697520
This

China took back the fastest growing nation crown, again.

And consider that when China was sub $2000 per capita, it was growing %10+. Now China is $8500 per capita, and still growing faster than India.
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>>75690581
Japanese "carriers" carry 4-6 helicopters. They can't even carry V-22s.

Also, China is currently commissioning 1 carrier, and building two more. They also have 4 more planned by 2030.

That means, 7-8 carriers by 2030.
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>>75699252
>daddy xi

You were probably just joking, but I get so triggered when I see people unironically view politicians as some sort of father figure. Pic related.

>我和我的人民奉陪到底

谁TM是“你的”人民?
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>>75699875
o-ok, now go fap to your taiwanese gfs
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>>75699082
Lmao Taiwan is irrelevant and becoming increasingly so. 22 million people, GDP of Henan, isolated from the entire international community and Western alliance system. Soon enough, Taiwan Act 2.0 will happen.

Trump will sell them out for NK in a heartbeat.

Starting WW3 over Taiwan is retarded. The economic cost on China alone would far outweigh any meme benefit from an extra island in the Pacific.
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>>75699774
>trusting commie statistics

http://news.xinhuanet.com/fortune/2015-12/11/c_128519419.htm

The title reads: "northeastern provinces have a severe problem of faking their gdp, some of those run down counties claim their gdp is higher than HK"
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>tfw 我会去中国,但我很胖的白人

How fucked am I, /sino/? I'm not going to lose weight fast enough before I go there.
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>>75699725
Within the next 20 years, all that is going to matter is who controls the best missiles/electronic warfare and space. Ground wars between major powers are gone, naval wars are increasingly outdated, air wars are still relevant but slowly losing out to missiles. Now it's mostly economic warfare and electronic warfare.

WannaCry fucking up China was a perfect example.
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wtf is with this spaniard? is he a chinese exchange student or just brainwashed?

we will defend taiwan
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>>75700081
How fat are we talking about? I've seen a 9/10 qt with a disgustingly fat whitey before, so you're probably fine
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>>75700147
Most of the international students who come to the universities here are fat. If its so bad, why is this?
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>>75700147
Fug.

>>75700151
Right now, I'm fatter than this guy, although I will probably be about as fat as him by the time I get there.
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>>75700116
He claimed to be an US airman stationed in Spain.
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How's the brain drain from China going to affect the Dragonland?
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>>75700235
He seemed fine by my standard
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>>75700116
>we will defend taiwan
talking about being brainwashed
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First time on /sino/.

What's the point of letting Xinjiang getting conquered by China in the first place?

If the Hui are allowed to practicise Islam then why the Uyghur don't? Is it because of potential separatism from China or something?
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>>75699832
As my Chinese professor always said; China's defeat in the Jiawu War and the subesequent Treaty of Shimonoseki made China not just lose a navy - it made China lose an empire. Because Taiwan was ceded away and so was its natural naval access to the Pacific.
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>>75700235
nah, this laowai is very popular here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYn5OI9V0FE
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>>75700242
sounds like bullshit to me his posts are very unamerican
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>>75700406
Same. His behavior stinks of 50 cent army
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>>75699831
Muh debt. MUH DEBT

China's TOTAL debt in 2016 was %275 of GDP.
Japan was %410 percent. USA? %310. UK? 375%. Any relevant major power? %300 or more.

China's debt is a fucking meme. The UK has had a far higher percentage since the 80's. That hasn't made their economy stop growing 2-3% each year.

>>75700021
>le commie stats meme
http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=32344
>Why is this important? Because year after year we see China pundits predicting a crash. When it doesn’t happen, some people claim the GDP numbers are “fake news”. The problem with these arguments is that the Chinese wage numbers (showing real wages growing at 10.5% annually over the past 11 years) are consistent with the reported gains in GDP. So the Chinese government would have to get its 1.4 billion people to participate in The Great GDP Cover-up, by getting them to also lie to reporters about their wage gains.

>My wife recently mentioned that her mother was now paying 35 yuan/hour (i.e. $5/hour) to her maid, a sum that her mother found completely mindboggling. So what’s the theory? Is my mother-in-law participating in the cover-up, lying to her daughter? Or maybe my wife is fabricating Chinese wage numbers, to make her homeland look good. Perhaps I married someone in the Chinese propaganda ministry.

Hmmm . . . that would explain . . .

>Seriously, it’s time for people to face reality. China is not a bubble; it’s a very successful developing country. The GDP data is real, even if it’s nominal. China may well have a debt crisis at some point in the next decade or two, but like South Korea it will recover and move into the high income category.
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>>75699725
>>75700399
even if we can break the first island chain, there are still Ogasawara and Guam.
In addition, the major object of PLAN now is to ensure the security of maritime energy transportation i.e. PLAN will focus more like westward to guarantee China's petroleum supply.
The reason why those who have shit sea-access always being losers is that their resource supplies were cut off such as Germany and Japan in WWII fail to take or lost control of the nearest oil field like Baku or Dutch Indonesia

>>75700081
If you are just normally obese, nothing will be wrong, but if you are as strong as those who have to sit on scooters, people may point at you and laughing at you being so fat

>>75700313
Uyghur has never been forbidden from practising Islam. The problem is that Wahhabism is spreading rapidly in Southern Xinjiang. China is cracking down on Wahhabi instead of average Uyghur people
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>>75700116
Yes I am Xi Jinping himself. Does that change the facts?

>we will defend Taiwan
Then why did the US government sign this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Relations_Act
Kill yourself you fucking retard. Starting WW3 over a tiny island of people is stupid. I don't want to die in Jilin because of your delusions.
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>>75700558
doesn't matter if its not written down on paper, we'll defend them because its the moral thing to do like we usually do when it comes to attrocities
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>>75700313
Uyghurs practice Islam daily. There is no ban on their religion. Stop reading the DailyMail.

>>75700406
>>75700463
We can wait for Taiwanon to back up my claim. He has seen extensive proof. I am stationed here in Spain as a US intelligence officer.

Nonetheless, it doesn't matter who I am. Reality does not change.
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>>75700313
Pigtailed Manchurians conquered Xinjiang. We inherited this Muslim infested mess. I personally would love to let them fuck off, but the education commies gave us in schools mystifies sovereignty so much, the thought of peaceful disassociation never crossed the minds of most Chinese
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>>75700399
no need to talk about history, the location of taiwan island is simply too important for parking nuclear submarines as your pic has shown

>>75700451
I actually start to like Germany because of him
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>>75700614
>We will defend them because it is the moral thing to do.

Ahh yes just like how we support military dictators worldwide? The US government doesn't operate on your bullshit moralistic argument.

From my viewpoint, starting a world war that will kill hundreds of millions over an island is not the moral thing to do. The US government and US congress/senate seem to agree.
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>>75700472
>meme

Look carefully at my source, it's fucking XINHUA.NET, commie run propaganda machine. Even they acknowledge this
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>>75700724
Negociating things through peaceful means is better than outright starting a war over nothing unless something very difficult is going to happen. I also blame the One-China policy too, it's just an excuse for China to alienate Taiwan.
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>>75700406
>>75700451
proofs
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>>75700787
Okay?

One province reporting bad GDP data does not mean that the rest have as well. Liaoning is not even a rich province. It is number 12.

Why are you so stupid that you can't figure that out? 1 province out of 30 is not representative of them all.
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>>75700790
What so China should go with the two China policy and lose everything they have fought for?
A two China policy would guarantee that China will never get Taiwan back, and that Taiwan will form military alliances with every nation is possibly can. It would rapidly become a Japanese colony.

Based upon international law, the RoC is Chinese territory. The RoC agrees.
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>>75701089
Yeah because Tsai Ing-wen gets elected and would like to have Taiwan become independent and Taiwan have two different coalitions each interpreting their own political view of such entity.

Unlike North and South Koreas which claims one each other to be the sole legit government of Korea get recognized by almost all countries, Taiwan is only recognized by 21 countries while China is recognized by much of the reminder.
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Taiwan no1
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>>75701030
>>75701030
>Le only one province is bad everyone else are good bois XDDD

http://www.yicai.com/news/3399072.html

I'm not gonna waste my time translate this, you either not know CPC as well as you think or you're purposefully spreading false narrative on this board
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>>75701405
>>75701030
Also the xinhua article said ALL THREE northeastern provinces are faking their data, not just one
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>>75700790
tfw France talks about peaceful means
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>>75701578
>source: my ass
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>>75701615
the chinese in australia who came over after the 90s are known for being extremely dishonest.

Around fobs, never relax
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>>75701207
So you want China to do what everyone in China, including many in the Western foreign policy community, considers to be BAD for China?
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>>75701296
Not Nippon?

>>75701405
>>75701522
And? Every major international economic organization considers China's GDP numbers to be accurate.
Furthermore, China's central government forms its GDP calculation based upon its own statistics. They don't use the provincial report because those reports always are inflated.

Your assumption that if a province reports bad GDP data, then China as a whole does, is dearly mistaken.

Explain your 140 million tourists last year. The 26 million vehicles sold? The massive negative effect on the commodity market in 2015? The massive positive effect on the reflation trade since October 2016?
China's economy is huge and its GDP is growing rapidly. The specific number is never fully accurate because it is impossible to calculate perfectly.

You are trying to argue that the IMF, World Bank, Federal Reserve, J.P Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and.... the Chinese government itself are all wrong. If China is so poor, stop visiting Spain. Stop buying cars. Stop buying up all the oil and coal and steel.
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>>75701578
China is honest about wanting Taiwan back and the SCS being Chinese.
Kill yourself you shitposting racist.
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>>75701742
the ones that bought your houses or the ones working at chinatown? I'm not familiar with chinese diaspora topic
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>>75701907
So basically now is the best time to learn Mandarin?
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>>75701744
I hate to admit but I feel something is unjust (for me anyway) when I compared the recognition of Korea with China since both have been partitioned into two separate entities (North and South Korea, China and Taiwan) each following the end of World War II. The common thing between partitioned Korea and China today is that each country have two separate rival entities claiming each other to the sole governor of a unified country the one difference is that both Koreas are fully recognized internationally (except Japan who don't recognize North Korea), while the Chinese situation is like this.
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Forgot to post pic related.
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>M-muh fake statistics
http://www.worldeconomics.com/Papers/China%20Growth%20Monitor_cac90741-8882-4311-969e-3ae0e3e2575c.paper
Here's about 30 private indicators from multiple private groups and businesses. They all point towards continued economic growth in China and consumer optimism.

Picture related is my favorite indicator
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>>75701939
PRC will never get SCS, or taiwan
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>>75690581

It's not anywhere near the USN's carrier fleet, but China is planning to operate at least six with the CVN20 and CVN21 being nuclear powered. CV17 has already been launched, and CV18 and CV19 have begun very early, preliminary work
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>>75701976
>>75702005
Not the same situation. Here is a history lesson.

North Korea was officially agreed to by the United States and the Allied powers in 1945 though. That was decided at the Yalta conference, and North Korea was given UN recognition in 1947 alongside South Korea.

The RoC/PRC situation occurred in 1949. That was a solely domestic civil war, and there was no agreement among the major global powers as to who represented China.
In 1971, the major global powers and the UN determined that the PRC represents China. That makes sense because the PRC controls 98% of China's territory.
The RoC still claims to be China. That is in its constitution, and many Taiwanese still stand by that claim.

Therefore, there is one China and only one side can get international recognition as China.

North Korea and South Korea are not the same situation because North Korea was controlled by the Soviets and South Korea by the USA in 1945-1947.
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>>75702107
I like your style, keep up the good work anon

>>75702125
never say never honey
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>>75698628
gibs us back the mainlans!
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>>75702125
Okay? I don't think that matters at all.

The significance is not who legally gets the territory. The significance is who has effective control over it. As far as I can tell, China effectively controls the SCS in relation to the other 5 contenders. China has isolated Taiwan and left it without any alliances.

If the claims were all that mattered, that would lead to WW3 for no good reason.

>>75702137
I obviously care lmao, My Man. So do the Chinanon and the Finn who I am responding to.
Why did you even butt in with a shitpost if you didn't want a response?
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>>75702407
to be fair, everyone's a lil autistic here
that anon is bringing quality to an obvious shitposting thread
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>>75702345
taiwan yes!!
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>>75702345
>>75702691
Truly the most liberal country in Asia.
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>>75702691
hell no,坐等台湾艾滋病感染率直线上升!
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>>75702786
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>>75691152
Thailand is done bro
And I can't comment on Vietnam but it seems like you are improve ok
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>>75702407
I thought I was responding to an actual german person.
I guess not though.

Soy greco
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>>75702829
>俄罗斯
speaking from experience?
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>>75703021
Vietnam is making a lot of progress. They are following China in many ways. Market reforms > urbanize > industrialize > service sector > high tech.
Both Vietnam took a fun detour though back in the 60's-70's. Vietnam only started China's one-party system market reforms in the late 80's though.

It still shows in their GDP growth... No nation has been able to match China's 30 year growth boom.
Pic related
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Why is this German thinking Taiwan matters at all, like he is thinking world power is some video game now?
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>>75703310
I appreciate him, although he can be mean to me and other anons pretty often.

Video games can be fun.

Do you live in Taipei? My mother was born there.
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>>75703280
Speaking of tech, is China going to challenge USA in the terms of innovation and research? The brain drain from China hasn't been a good sign
t. CS-student
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>>75703454
I live in Tainan, are you Chinese?
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>>75703280
The one thing I'm wondering is why official independent media doesn't exist in Vietnam, unlike China which had one. At least they could create some independent outlets that discusses non-political things.
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>>75703494
I hope every western nations brain drained the fuck out of China. Blatant plagiarism and unethical academic practices already destroyed any bit of innovation in that country. Han Chinese will achieve more in a western society, sad to day this to the nation that Confucius was from.
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>>75703682
not that taiwanon, but life goes on, you know.
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>>75703682
Most of this island is empty and aging, population dying, we are irrelevant in all ways. There will not be Pacific battles like ww2 anyway.
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>>75700313
Ethnic nationalism through terrorism. They are allowed to practice it. There are just stipulation not unlike the banning of the burka in France. The hui are good boys. >>75700313
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>>75703958
As Chinese I really hope Taiwan can gain independence, I really cried a bit seeing all the traditional Chinese culture well preserved there that is gone in the mainland. Taiwan is more authentic China than PRC could ever hope to be. I sincerely hope CCP doesn't corrupt that place. I will really like to visit Taiwan one day.
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>>75704169
We mixed a bit with Japanese, it is hard to say what is true Chinese culture or what that even means. I hope you will enjoy Taiwan though.

>>75704172
Sure that sounds fun
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>>75702125
The Chinese styled roofs of these SCS island fortresses speak otherwise.
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>>75704464
degenerate.

please stay in TW and never come back.
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>>75704789
Offer yourself as german hostage. China wont dare to bombard the places you are currently present.
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>>75704464
What area will you stay in? Tainan is very spread out, but for a nice dinner you can probably choose anything in Anping like 伯龍坊 would probably be fun. And it likely depends what you see, how popular, I don't recommend this hand job.
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>>75704464
>>75705026

>geopolitical discussion turns to food
>typical Chinese behaviour
>民以食為天
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>>75704169
>As Chines
you have to go back chang
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>>75706306
Once you tasted the American's freedom, you will never go back.
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>>75707078
>American's """freedom"""
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>live in Guangdong province for years
>the big cities are modern, but when you leave them, China turns into a third world country with shitty roads, broken down buildings, and poor villages
>travel to Shandong province
>even the rural areas are well-maintained, with perfect roads

What did they mean by this?
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>>75708100
Not all Chinese provinces advance at the same phase?
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>>75708224
Well, yes.
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>>75708859
Oh yeah him, C-milk and that other bold white dude made the trinity of White Chinboos on Youtube. Good for him for scoring the best looking wife tho.
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>>75708100
Shitty ones are in west where it's infested by Muslims and Tibet. Still need resources and Tibet (just in case India be superpower by 2030) so they'll just be there, but will never develop.
Some others are in northeast, and places that's close to Viet. They're just hopeless. They seek alcohol, drugs and dream of going to 1st tier cities. Some will be really great people, but still they're quite hopeless.
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>>75710752
This. It's fairly easy and cheap to get a custom made suit in China.
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Any Chinkbros here tired of Jews trying to compare themselves to Chinese? Chinese seek wealth for power and status while Jews seek wealth for wealth's sake. There is no comparison unless Wenzhou people are representative of all Chinese.
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>>75703234
我特么说的是基佬群体感染比例比正常人要高,这是尝试,还有俄罗斯至少做到了禁止同性恋宣传法通过,你们连性教育都™跟80年代一样
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>>75703494
Only 300,000 Chinese left China last year in total, mostly for university, and about 85% return.

That's compared to nearly a million in the 90's-early 2000's. Most of the Chinese that leave are either super rich corrupt bastards, or your really poor Chinese who work for SOE's overseas.
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>>75703568
China and Vietnam both have officially independent media. They just reserve the right to censor them, and the "free" media usually works with the government and self-censors.

Funny enough, the online media groups and fake news groups on social media in China are spreading too fast for the censors, so now China is providing subsidies to their private media groups to self-censor.
The US government does a very similar thing, just not as obviously.
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>>75704309
Kek maybe your rape babies are mixed with Japanese. The other 95% of Taiwan is Hokkien Chinese according to your census.
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>>75707078
If you can't speak Chinese, you aren't Chinese. "John" Hsien Wong.
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>>75708100
China is a third world nation with first world cities.
To be honest, the USA was that bad into the 1940's as well.
My grandpa's brothers starved to death in Hillsborough, Tennessee back in the mid-30's. He's only 5'8" although my dad is 6'1" and I'm 6'1".

China's rural areas are still much better than they used to be.
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>>75709048
JaYoe Nation is the best of them all since he doesn't create clickbait.
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>>75713205
Maybe their most recent generation that want to be a Japanese province, but everyone my mother's age an older don't even know what anime is and dislike the Japanese (and koreans for some reason).

My grandma and mom got a lot of hate back in the 70's out there.
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>>75712989
很抱歉我会说中文
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>>75707972
I'm still a permanent resident, I have the perfect excuse for not voting either shit. Also as the little bitch of USA, next time talk to your master politely.
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>>75715043
wow bet you used google for that now didn't you haha got you
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>>75715816
But you too are bitch of America
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>>75715872
Get BTFO
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>>75715992
w-wow soz bud
you have a sister?
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>>75712796
Hmm, interesting. Seems like my professor isn't up to his job.
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Can someone explain to me why Timetravel is censored in China?

AÍn this regard: How was it possible that Terminator Genisys was such a success besides the censorship of time travelling.
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>>75724554
Time travel = potential alternative history = what if someone write a story and history is changed so that there no longer a CCP in existence.

CCP being the insecure faggot they are banned anything that could be interpreted as anti-CCP.
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>>75724893
Any source to back this up?
And also why was Terminator still allowed in the Cinema?
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Where should I go to marry a chinese cute? Canada, Australia, Taiwan or China? China is shithole, but I'm used to shitholes as I live in one
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>>75724969
>China's State Administration for Radio, Film & Television stating that “The producers and writers are treating the serious history in a frivolous way, which should by no means be encouraged anymore.”

That the statement released by SARFT, aka the censorship department that dramas and movies need to go through if they want its shit to be broadcast or screen in China.
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>>75707078
Hear hear, European level of freedom already changed me a lot
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>>75724893
>CCP being the insecure faggot they are banned anything that could be interpreted as anti-CCP.

like amerifags banning edward snowden amirite?
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>>75725006
Most core areas of China is pretty well developed (populated by the Han). The east coast is especially well developed, try seeking your luck there. But remember that the number of girls to boys ratio is in favor for the boys, so your competition is intense since current "小公主" aka the "princess" have extremely absurd standards. For Whites, German and French is preferred, White British and American males tarnished their reputation for being loser sexpats. Black is pretty much have 00.01 chance of being accepted unless you're some famous celebrity. Japanese and Korean are ok. If you know Chinese and is somewhat knowledgeable in Chinese's culture, your chance will be even more higher.
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>>75725006
male or female?
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>>75713356
The older generation speaks Japanese better than English because it was forced to be taught before ww2 ended
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>>75726226
Forced?皇军征兵的时候台湾人响应的不是很踊跃吗?和KMT和清廷这种其实也是外来政权的比日本人好到天上去了吧
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>>75726159
I only like girls (female and male)
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>>75726399
If you find a gf in mainland she very likely has a social darwinism mindset. Because that's how things work here.
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>>75726457
>If you find a gf in mainland she very likely has a social darwinism mindset. Because that's how things work here.

Explain?
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>>75726297
日治初期台湾人又不是没反抗过 六三法时期台民反抗 日本人在300万人里光处决就处决了三万 还不算其他武装冲突的伤亡 清廷北洋不给力的情况下你指望台湾把人都拼光吗
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>>75708100
because Shandongers are the Aryans of the East

>tallest east asians
>smartest east asians
>biggest asian dongs
>confucius was a shandonger
>shandongers eat a heavy wheat and dairy based diet on par with the west
>ancient shandongers colonized korea and japan, giving birth to gook and jap civilizations
>ancient shandongers in linzi were mixed with western eurasians
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>>75726769
And qingdao was actually an aryan colony. The best Chinese beer, qingdao beer, is basically german beer
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>>75689759
>youku
it's basically a youtube rip-off
why do you even go there?
>>75725006
>chinese cute
>canada
sure why not

>tfw i am going to Kaohsiung today
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>>75726584
Instead of law, government officals and their regulations/directions reign supreme in this land.The closer you are to political power/the higher political power you possess, the fairer you fair. As for justice? Heh
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do chinese feel inferior to americans?
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>>75726966
I thought you had nothing to do with china anymore Kuang
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>>75727041
The fact that I'm not a political power wouldn't mean the girl I find would be less social darwinist?
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>>75727148
what are you even talking about?
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Please watch this excellent video so you get an idea of which part of Chinese territory is indeed "an integral part since ancient times"

Hint: For half of the past 2000 years, even northern part of China Proper was in barbarian hands.

爱奇艺: http://www.iqiyi.com/w_19rtdd31wt.html

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf_NNfGWdsc
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>>75727173
In this type of society, people will have an "everyone for themselves, compassion is redundant" mentality. It is not uncommon to find people who genuinely believe the disabled should be dealt with, third reich style.
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>>75726966
>tfw i am going to Kaohsiung today
what are you gonna do there?
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>>75727383
enjoy my vocation of course
also visit my dad
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>>75727339
>It is not uncommon to find people who genuinely believe the disabled should be dealt with, third reich style.
I guess I would fit...
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>>75727442
...Then welcome to China I guess
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>>75727427
Are you originally from Kaohsiung? I've only been there once or twice during chinese new year when I studied in Taiwan. I remember it being hot as fuck, I don't even want to imagine what it's like in june.

I kinda like southern Taiwan, it feels very relaxed and laid-back. Reminds me of my hometown.
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>>75727544
steaming hot industrial port?

how nice.
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>>75727747
I don't like the heat since it slaughters my skin, but the ocean is nice. My hometown is far away from the sea and there's only forest here, so the coast has always felt special for me. When I lived in Taipei I used to take the subway to Danshui every now and then, buy a drink and just sit and look at the ocean for a while. Didn't have time to do that in Kaohsiung though. Is there anything interesting to do or visit there?
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why arent the taiwan and china flags bickering you guys hate each others guts
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>>75727903
not in this particular thread
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>>75727946
fine i'll start it, commie china is a failure, taiwan should inherit a unified china
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>>75727978
agree with the first half. taiwan should on their own tho
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>>75728029
>taiwan should on their own tho
this, Hong Kong too
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>>75727889
last time I was there, last august, drove out to the beach and sat and watched the boats a while. evening time was nice and refreshing. just don't sit downwind from the fish market emporium...

you're better off hitting the surrounding countryside if possible imo.
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>>75690969
Why does the Chinese have such an issue with moving people in the country. They build all these new cities, yet couldn't get people to move into them, which is interesting when you consider how the rural folk have been the main supporters of the government.
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When China rules the world in a decade or two will it be merciful to burgers or enslave us for our sins?
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>>75699824

It increased it's military spending by leaps, and bounds often increasing it percentage wise more than it had economic growth since the 90's.

It went from only around $10 billion from the 90's to now being one of the few countries that has their military spending in the hundreds of billions.
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>>75728245
some of those ghost cities get filled eventually. some cities are built merely for a temporary growth of gdp--cities shouldn't have been built in there in the first place. local officials who create new cities got promoted for their "achievement", leaving behind a debt loaded local economy
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>>75689385
伟大的中华民国万岁!台湾国万岁!

讽刺的是我在写简体中文字。该死的美国大学课程... 我们已经背叛我们资本主义的兄弟们。
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>>75728353
How do you access 4chan btw?
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>>75728206
>last time I was there, last august, drove out to the beach and sat and watched the boats a while. evening time was nice and refreshing.
Sounds great, if (when) I go back to Taiwan next time, I want to do that as well.

>just don't sit downwind from the fish market emporium
lol

>you're better off hitting the surrounding countryside if possible imo.
Yeah I guess so. Been to this place called 阿蓮 a couple times, my gf is from there. Maybe it's closer to Tainan? I don't really remember.
Wish I could do some traveling in Taiwan when I visit next time. Just need to save enough money first...
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>>75728246
lol we'll still be number in 2 decades
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>>75728245
also, what are peasants gonna do to make a living if they moved to cities? they have zero skills. Job vacancies are there but the unemployed cannot fill them even after "training".
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>>75728422
>lol we'll still be number *one* in 2 decades

I had a dumb
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>>75728374
I am a 4chan pass masterrace
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>>75728450
meant for>>75728375
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>>75727903
We are all Chinese really, I think westerners care more about Taiwan independence than us
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>>75728054
Hong Kong benefits greatly from PRC military backing, they don't have to worry about western influence of their policies
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>>75728538
I feel like there's at least as much of a cultural and linguistic difference between the two (that is continuing to develop) as there was between East and West Germany prior to unification.
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>>75728441
Idk dude I feel like western institutions and leadership have been extremely strained/insufficient lately. Also Chinar is smarter than us with regard to PISA performance and making tons of economic inroads in the developing world
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>>75728538
But don't both you guy (Taiwan, and China) try, and get support as being recognized as the true China through economic aid to other countries?

Mainly in Central, and South America with China gaining support since they can spend more in exchange for being recognized.
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>>75728655
>Chinar is smarter than us with regard to PISA performance

you just fell for the memes, you know pisa only tests shanghai right? if we only tested boston, we'd be way ahead in pisa. plus east asians are known to cheat in these tests.
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>>75728776
>However, that has all now changed, as blogger Anatoly Karlin has located the 2009 PISA scores for a dozen major provinces on the Chinese Internet, and published a lengthy post presenting and analyzing them. These scores are indeed truly remarkable, and completely confirm the apparent pattern of Lynn’s IQ samples, in which desperately poor East Asians tend to score at or above the levels of the most successful and well-educated Western populations.

>The twelve provinces whose scores were released do include several of China’s most developed and best performing areas, including Beijing, Jiangsu, and Zhejiang, as well as Shanghai, so the average is probably a bit above that for the country as a whole. But since the total population is at least well into the hundreds of millions, heavily rural as well as urban, the average PISA score of 520—corresponding to an IQ of 103—cannot be too dissimilar from the overall Chinese figure. And with China’s per capita GDP still only $3,700 and well over half the population still living in rural villages when the tests were conducted, these are absolutely astonishing results.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/2012/08/14/raceiq-irish-iq-chinese-iq/

I'm not even Chinese, but seriously I think they may be destined to conquer the Earth.
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Guys how do you think a better relationship between America, and Russia would effect China? I believe Russia would want it since it gives them more options.

Russia had to look towards China for economic trade after all those sanctions by the West. They've been able to trade oil to a hungry China, becoming the biggest source of oil for them I believe.

The Silk Road Project I believe could also be an issue since Russia could view it as China undermining them in their historic area of influence in Central Asia. They already had to get rid of their own economic program that they had implemented with former Soviet states for the Silk Road. This is

Their also viewed as the junior partner in this relationship with China, which is clearly something Russia hates. After all their recent actions can be viewed as Russia trying to gain back respect, and regional influence that they had lost when the USSR collapsed. I doubt they would let China get away with it if they had other options more preferable.

Thoughts?
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yes, russia would much rather trade with eu, that has always been their goal but of course china has conditions for buy their oil and there are pipelines from russia selling oil to china
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>>75729405
>>75728882
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>>75729418
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>>75729751
china will be better off if russia had better relations with america

international trade is not a non-zero sum game, wealthier russia is better for everyone
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New instruction from His Majesty Augustus Shuo Lee, Emperor of Manchuria: racial segregation is good for whites and blacks alike
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Got these the other day from a store...what do they say?
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>>75730256
I also had this one but I already ate it. I am assuming they were some sort of squid?
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>>75730256
>>75730281
squid flavor
they are made from grain
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>>75730256
different flavors of crust of cooked rice
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>>75730320
I figured it was grain. Just curious about the packaging.
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>>75730345
left is black rice right is 5 grain
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>>75730362
http://baike.baidu.com/item/%E4%BA%94%E8%B0%B7%E6%9D%82%E7%B2%AE
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>>75730345
left: spicy, right: onion flavor
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>>75730385
>>75730379
>>75730362
>>75730345
>>75730326
>>75730320
Thanks anons. I might have to track down some more of that squid one.
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>studied chinese for over 10 months now
>still not fluent
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>>75730798
>learn english since I was 10
>still not fluent
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>>75691152
>>75703234
>yfw these jungle/tundra chinks actually believe the shit they spew out of their mouths
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"China" the word itself is a bastardized version of the word "Qin" and the concept of China is propagandize by the Manchurian to legitimize their rule over the Hans. This was then later inherited by the RoC and now PRC. Throughout history zhongyuan is always Hans, never a multicultural or multiethnic state. I never brought into this bullshit Chinese identity, I always proud and call myself a "Hanren". If only there's a Han Adolf Hitler to unite the Han race...

光复汉族 推翻共匪 is something that I wished for everything.
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>>75730918
"Wished for everyday" autocorrect is annoying sometimes
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可不可以不要每次都要討論政治
我來po點輕鬆愉快的東西好了
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>>75730918
“只要我们一息尚存,波兰就不会灭亡”!
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>>75730918
>>75730988
btw我非常喜欢这个国旗设计,图样色彩均取自汉代漆器,后加上的白色使得国企配色与第三帝国旗相同
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>>75730837
yeah but learning in school doesn't count because kids aren't capable of studying seriously
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>>75730948
。。这个有点。。。日式冷吐槽
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>>75730837
Spend some time where English is natively spoken. You'll be fine Chinabro.
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>>75730988
>>75731028
有生之年要是我可以看到汉族拿回中原的话我已经很开心了
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>>75731043
聽說/sino/有微信號
但我從來沒辦過微信
而且我也擔心它會不會偷偷把訊息記錄交給情報部門
你覺得我該辦嗎?
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>>75731117
[泪目][握手]
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>>75731117
遗民泪尽共尘里
南望王师又一年
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>>75730918
>冉閔
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>>75731134
大陆所有社交媒体的所谓“私聊”在党眼里都是透明的。你人在TW就算说了他们不爱听的他们也不会把你怎么样吧。看你自己想不想弄了
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>>75689385
why won't china help europeans? we are your best defense against you becoming like our shithole countries.
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>>75731173
你們不打算找個更重視隱私的軟體開群組?
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>>75731202
不把信息交给党/不听党指挥删帖的都被墙了呀。
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>>75731191
Fucking niggers. Conceal carry should be required in the presence of niggers.
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>>75731244
那你能上4chan還真是個奇蹟呢
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>>75731290
learn bjj and you will have conceal carry at all times
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>>75731304
Sure thing that'll help me when I'm getting ganged on by a pack of monkeys right?
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>>75731297
暂时没入组织法眼吧。其实在4chan有些话我都不敢说的,我不相信这里没有打报告逆向搜人ip的五毛
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>>75731342
你不能用VPN吗?
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>>75731410
。。。可能是我下VPN的姿势不对,4chan总是把我的VPN墙掉
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>>75731342
我想你可以放心點
之前有篇哈佛大學教授研究五毛的文章指出
大多五毛的行為模式幾乎都集中在讚美黨上
那些成天跟人爭吵的可能是真心愛黨的
畢竟五毛是收錢做事 能偷懶就偷懶
百度和新浪稍微看個幾眼 沒事就罷
頂多在幾篇下新聞留言中共有多偉大
接著便切回bilibili看全職高手 草草了事
要他們在一堆「我是希臘人」「我在你的國家中算黑嗎」還有「一片他媽的葉子」
中尋找有違禁訊息的內容根本是要他們的命
所以放輕鬆唄 你有我們罩
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China could get more development and growth time if the CCP fell and the country became fully liberalized ironically. Here's hoping Kuomintang retakes mainland.
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>>75732047
唉。全职高手挺好看啊,原著党总嚷嚷删剧情,我倒觉得总算有一个敢通过删剧情来提升节奏的国产动画了

大陆最好的漫画应该是《一人之下》,但是动画非得紧贴着原著拍,节奏惨不忍睹
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>>75732428
>mfw 我在現實中玩遊戲像肢體殘障
推薦我一些好看的國漫吧
我現在閒閒沒事做等開學
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>>75732588
This harem anime is pretty good.
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>>75732588
他們的故事
http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/tamen-de-gushi-r13939
It's really cute and gay.
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>>75732648
>後宮動畫
我選擇死亡
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Out of the South and East China Seas, which one is more dangerous and why? From what I've been able to figure out Japan is the one being screwed with in the East China Sea and in the South China Sea the government is messing with a lot of ASEAN. Both of these are obviously to get access to shipping lanes and secure islands for probably military purposes but out of the two which is more relevant? That jungle monkey Duterte just seems to be chimping out in the South China Sea so he can get the most out of both sides for his country after the ruling
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>>75732691
chinese translation:
在南海和东海之外,哪一个更危险,为什么? 从我能够弄清楚,日本是在东海和南中国海被困的国家,政府正在搞乱很多东盟。 这些都显然是为了获得航运通道和安全的岛屿可能是军事目的,但在更相关的两个之中? 那个丛林猴子邓特似乎正在南海chimping一息,所以他可以在裁决之后为自己的国家最大限度地利用他的国家
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>>75732685
男主角好比那些日本的后宫动漫男主角好多了

你面的妹子也很好看
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>>75732588
zugave画的恐怖漫画,很有伊藤润二的感觉,个人没看出抄袭成分

wlop大神的《鬼刀》,程序员业余玩票水平碾压一众专职漫画家,pic related
http://www.u17.com/comic/68471.html?source=baidu


《我,女机器人》,画风偏古旧,但是脑洞和表现力是超一流的,感觉快比肩高桥美留子老师了
http://www.u17.com/comic/3420.html

还有就是《一人之下》。情节只有有丰富社会经验的人才能写的出来,日本好多剧情构思精妙的大师也没有能力创作出这样的故事来,个人心中国漫第一。

你台许仙哲的《镖人》很酷炫啊,隋朝背景井上雄彦画风美国西部片故事
http://www.dmzj.com/info/biaoren.html
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>>75733193
forgot pic = =
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>>75732673
>>75733193
謝謝 我會試試看
>>75732881
>男主角好比那些日本的后宫动漫男主角好多了
給我解釋清楚這到底是怎們一回事
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What's the general attitude towards taiwan in mainland china?
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>>75733442
we like taiwan, we want to war with china
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我愛我的台灣人女朋友。
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I'm economically illiterate. This article says China's real unemployment rate is 22%. Thoughts?

http://weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=2309404115659872161200#_0
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da jia hao
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>>75738321
こんにちは
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>>75738458
こんばんは。
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>>75737655
统计口径就不对,城镇登记失业率是指城镇登记失业人员与城镇单位就业人员、城镇单位中的不在岗职工、城镇私营业主、个体户主、城镇私营企业和个体就业人员、城镇登记失业人员之和的比。也就是说这一系列城镇的就业人员是不可能包含农村户籍人口的, 所以该文计算方法的主要依据——从城镇就业人员中刨去1.3亿农村人口——从一开始就不成立。至于失业人口是不是都登记上了,这我就不敢打保票了。

>>75738480
こんばんは
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>>75738664
感谢
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>>75693025
>在美国的中国人这么多!

是错的。
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9
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How long have you guys been here?
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>>75693025
不多吧
因为这是国际项所以有几个华侨
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>>75742286
approximately 2~3month ago
and my most favourite meme is i am a greek
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对了在大陆里面有没有活动纪念64?
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我愛台妹
台妹愛我
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Ching chong?
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>>75746505
Post Mongolian QTs please
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>>75727253
What are the first two songs in that video?
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