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>Brits will defend this
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>>75629859
This is closer to reality than what your (and my) country seem to believe.
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Soviets did the most desu
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1) soviets
2)UK
3) USA
4) France
5) commonwealth countries
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>>75629859
how is it even arguable that the red scum did the most? they still havent recovered from their sacrifices
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>>75629859
Us and the Germans are closest to the reality.
Brits are deluded anyway.
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>>75629859
>5) commonwealth countries
Yugoslav partisans had over 800,000 fighters. It's questionable if France comes fourth.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_QY3xsLQNI
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Soviets then usa then uk
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>>75629859
If you count GB turning what should have been a local conflict between Germany and the Soviet Union into a world war and also bringing the USA into the war, GB did the most to "win".
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Did americans stop the war or did they just arrive when it was almost over ?
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>>75633278
You brought the Americans into the war, not us.
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1-Italy
2-USSR
3-USA
4- China
5-the rest
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>>75633385
The USA was aiding the allies side long before Germany ended the bullshit and declared war on them officially.
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>>75633523
>before Germany ended the bullshit
That's an interesting way to say "threw themselves on the sword".
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>>75633523
the american public were basically grasping for any reason to not join the war, and yet your ally directly bombed an american base, and then you guys declared war in solidarity with the japs

FDR was doing everything it could to get into the war, but until pearl harbour, he found roadblocks from congress/the senate pretty much every step of the way
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>>75633278
You invaded France long before Russia.
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Canada single-handedly won WW2
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>>75633742
Yes, France was the first country that GB used to turn this into a world war.
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>>75633643
This. Had they kept the slants on a leash Germany would have won.
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>>75633799
Australia helped
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>>75629859
Norway, greatest ally.
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I love you France
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why is the US even an option here
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>>75634633
Why is Canada even a country?
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why is Germany not an option here
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>>75629859
Nice, Norway-UK alliance going strong. Thanks for helping us in WW2.
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I would say:
90% Sovjets
4% USA
2% UK
4% Others (France and Yugoslavia mainly)
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>>75629859
>England BTFO

GOTT STRAFE ENGLAND
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>>75629859
If we look at it from a logistics standpoint didn't the US commit a fuckton of raw material, weapons, ect to the conflict before we even entered the war?

When you consider that fact it's pretty clear the US had an outsized influence on the outcome despite the fact that they entered the European theater very late into the game.

Obviously I understand that materials alone do not win wars, men win wars, and each combatant played an important role. However, m
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>>75636065
Hit post by accident, but close enough.
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>>75629859
based norgay
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>>75634691
hi :)
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>>75635938
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It was actually Mexico
Our cameo was responsible for ending the war
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>>75636394
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All these posts implying we didn't face the Reich alone for a year and that there would even have been a war for the Americans and Soviets to win after 1940.
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>>75629859
>MUH D-DAY

soviets won the war
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>>75636613
what THE FUCK did you do besides losing africa, not being invaded because you are an island and not being able to invade any coast besides shitaly?
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>>75633395
Italy was a member of the axis you idiot, how could they have helped win the war besides being utterly incompetent and ragging Germany with them.
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>>75636700
you answered your own question
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It's like this:

1. Soviets

POWER GAP

2. US

POWER GAP

3. UK
4. France
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>>75636699
>what THE FUCK did you do
>brazil
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>>75636630
Aye about 12,000 men died at D-day, average death rate daily death rate of the Soviets was well beyond that,
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>>75636933
>average death rate daily death rate of the Soviets was well beyond that,

Shows how shit they were at fighting. They were lucky they had millions, upon millions, upon millions, upon millions, upon millions, upon millions of men to replace the millions, upon millions, upon millions, upon millions, upon millions of other men who died. What a shitshow.
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>>75636861
>implying we gave a shit about your shitty war

we sent a few niggers and got our first metallurgic industry from america. our president was even planning to join the axis. brazilian uniforms were even similar to the german ones.

>>75636933
war isn't team death match you filthy anglo. you don't win by k/d ratio.
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>>75629859
>nobody realises it was actually goymany themselves
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>>75637034
[cites bullshit statistic about retreating Soviets]
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>>75629859
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Soviet Union would've been in deep shit without the American Lend-Lease.
Just throwing it out there
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>>75637251
>the quarterback would have been in deep shit without the water-boy
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>>75629859
I. Britain
II. Soviets
III. America
IV. Commonwealth
V. French and polish uprisers
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>>75637108
You could actually argue this. They could have just as well left Russia alone/not pushed into Russia in the fall.

They could have also disowned Japan when Japan attacked the US and at the very least it would have taken even longer for the US to enter the conflict if they even entered at all.

Germany was greedy.
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>>75629859
>people thinking anyone other than the USSR won WW2
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>>75637578
the reason hitler attacked russia is still under debate
he should have sent paratroopers in england like I did in hoi4 and japan shouldn't have gone full retard and attacked the us
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>>75636613
>All these posts implying we didn't face the Reich alone for a year and that there would even have been a war for the Americans and Soviets to win after 1940.
So you finally admit that GB turned what should have been a local war between Germany and the Soviet Union into a world war?
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>>75637714
The only reason Japan attacked the US is becuase they were afraid of our naval capabilities.

That's why they went for Pearl Harbor specifically. They wanted to take out our carriers so that we wouldn't be able to wage war against them properly and they got "unlucky" when we just happened have them out of harbor on that particular day.

Meanwhile I'm willing to bet that the reason Hitler attacked Russia was because for whatever reason he found the Russian's disgusting.
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>>75637817
I'm not sure what they teach in German schools, but the war broke out over Poland when you were still sucking off the Soviets
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I hope German wage a third World War, too much humans lately.
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once again, France is our greatest ally

I want to see the russian response to this
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>>75633353
We can take exclusive credit for Japan (sorry Aussies) and 80-90% of Italy.

Brits can have credit for Africa and parts of France.
They also have the mess of the Netherlands on their hands however.

Sorry to France as well. You lads are okay, but all you did in WWII was shoot prisoners.
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>>75629859
>all these low Soviet numbers

Fucking disgusting
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>>75636065
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker_US6_2%C2%BD-ton_6x6_truck

Could have sworn there was another version with a unit count near half a million, almost all of which were given to the Soviets.
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>>75637335
Actually yes. A great deal of Football players have died from dehydration.

Before hardshell helmets, a great deal suffered concussions. Before pads, a great deal of other injuries.
Etc.

Can't win without supplies, Ивaн.
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>>75644307
It's your own fault for wanting to be special snowflakes and changing the game of rugby so much that you then required the wearing of armour and helmets.
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>>75644353
Think of it this way:

English and American fantasy football are the same. We just have an offline version as well.
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>>75644353
Can't banter with helmets either.
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>Americans defeated the Naz-
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>>75629859
YouGov polls are really dodgy, but in the event that it were accurate I think it's just half the fact that we were in the war from the start to the end and half the fact that there's no mass media coverage of the Eastern Front. You can't really be surprised at the ignorance of 20-year-olds when they've been raised on a diet of films from your cunt.
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>>75633990
>they made us invade it!
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>>75629859
>Germany United States 37%
nah in my opinion
1) soviet union
2) russian winter
3) hitlers autism
4) uk
5) usa
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that UK gets me every damn time
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>>75636800
if it werent for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, it would be
Soviets >>>>>>>>>>> US, UK >>>> everyone else
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>>75644587
I knew my south neighbors were a scum...
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>>75644162
>but all you did in WWII was shoot prisoners.
Read up on Dunkirk and bir hakeim.
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>>75629859
Literally we were the only country superpower left in the world who were fighting the nazis after the rest of Europe was conquered. We could have signed a peace deal, and allowed the Nazis to win, but we didn't. Without us the allies wouldn't have won. In that respect, it could be said that we had a significant role
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>>75633353
Je crois que tu penses à la guerre mondiale incorrecte mon ami. Et même pendant la première guerre, nous vous (vous et les rosbifs) avons prêté beaucoup beaucoup d'argent et fourni beaucoup de la nourriture et des armes

(aussi désolé, je parle pas couramment mais j'essais)
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It's honestly baffling that people try to argue that anyone did more than America to beat the Axis. Everyone else fought valiantly (except the Italians) especially the Soviets and Brits. We could have won the western front if there was no eastern front, but the soviets couldn't have won without the US. People often forget about lend-lease, people argue that the Soviets had better artillery and tanks than we gave. But people also forget about the food we sent, people forget that their troops and especially their artillery never would have made in to the fronts without all the Studebakers we sent. People forget that huge swathes of the soviet croplands and oilfields were under occupation and they needed supplies. People forget that huge amounts of German resources were being soaked up by trying to hold off America in the west and cover Italy's ass from our advances in Africa. Soviet industry would have been largely wiped out and they never would have been able to bring their capacity up in time to beat the Germans. The English wouldn't have been able to hold out forever, they were slowly falling apart. Probably the biggest thing people forget is that we basically won the war in the Pacific single-handedly. The Chinese held up a good amount of the Japanese army, the Australians helped a bit, the English tried but they had bigger problems at home; America liberated the pacific island by island before the Soviets even got close. America industry kept the Axis at bay, and our troops provided a fresh influx of power into Europe.

America easily did the most, but great creds to the British for keeping up the fight against all odds and to the Russians and Chinese for their great losses
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>>75629859
The outcome of the war was already decided by the time the US actually got involved. The UK and the USSR did way more than the US. If the UK stayed out of the war or capitulated early, Germany could well have won, and the USSR's impact was obviously the most important by far.
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>>75633385
We really only got involved because of Japan.
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>>75629859
>the majority of Europeans know the truth
>even Germany believes the USA did the most to beat it

Feels good.
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>>75651521
It's not perfect but you already write better than most native french people desu.
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>>75633353
We arrived just as it was beginning.

>but muh September 1939

The Battle of France was the only significant event that took place between the invasion of Poland and the invasion of the USSR, other than that it was a whole lot of pussy-footing with nothing happening. Shouldn't even be called a world war at that point desu.
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>>75651912
>modern Australians are literally bigger and more delusional Sovietboos than Stalin himself
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>>75629859
Wow if you don't think the Soviets did 85% of the work to win WW2 you literally don't know anything about history

I don't know what else to say. Literally worse than niggers.
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>>75652096
Stalin was actually a pretty cautious and realistic guy.
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>>75652096
I guess I'm thinking about it the wrong way. My line of thought is more about who was more necessary for winning the war. In that case, it would have to be the USSR since as soon as the USSR capitulates, the war is won for the Germans, whereas without the Americans the Allies could still have possibly won. I suppose this is wrong, since the question is really about who contributed the most to the war, and not whose existence was the most integral to the Allies winning the war. In this case, I would be prepared to admit that the USSR had a much lesser role and the US had a much bigger one.
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>>75629859
USA 30
USSR 30
UK 15
France 10
Italy 10
Others 5

Objectively correct.
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>>75652761
Make the USSR 45 and France -5.
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>>75632318
canada did more than france 2bh

france was a fucking disgrace in WW2
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>>75652800
Poland > Canada > France
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>>75652791
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Resistance

There's a reason why we landed in Normandy to attack Germany.
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>>75652761
>USA and USSR the same

"no"
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Brits contributed a lot to the defeat of Germany.

Americans only came after the Japanese attacked them at Pearl Harbor. Before this event they were selling weapons to Germany too because trade was more important for them even if it includes the sell of weapons to an enemy.

The USSR contributed the most though.

I'd say
1) The USSR
2) The UK
3) The USA
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>>75652761
Completely subjective and completely wrong. How you rank yourselves as twice the UK when you were absent for the first two years of the conflict is hilarious.
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>>75654186
Length of time isn't even remotely relevant. When you actually start comparing numbers like war expenditure, how many German soldiers were neutralized, how much war materiel was provided, etc. it becomes apparent just how little the UK actually did (compared to the USA and USSR; by any other standard their effort was still enormous). For example, in the 1944-1945 Western Front campaign Americans were 70% of Allied combat casualties and 60% of Allied troops period, showing how much their contribution dwarfed everyone else's. In the same campaign the vast majority of British tanks and about 1/4 of their munitions came from Lend-Lease.

That 10-month campaign that was overwhelmingly an American effort resulted in 500,000 Germans killed and 4,000,000 captured (1/3 of these taken by the Third Army alone). The entire North Africa Campaign that the Brits like to brag about only had like 20,000 Germans killed and 130,000 captured. Meanwhile in the air war, the Americans dropped 1,463,000 tons of bombs and shot down 35,783 German planes, while the British dropped 1,307,000 tons of bombs and shot down 21,622 German planes. Speer stated that the Americans were much more efficient with their bombings too.
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>>75654334
Yes America contributed a lot more in quantitative terms over the course of the entire war, but couldn't it be argued that the war was already won by 1944? The war was decided in the first few years when America's contribution was much less significant (although still very important).
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>>75629859
Wars are won and lost by diplomacy, Germany had already lost the war in 1939
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>>75632318
i think we deserve number 2 for the pacific theatre
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